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- chingy1788, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9price doesn't matter...?
why aint the PS3 going like hot cakes, most people are complaining about the price - lo0ol, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7--- "It's not about the looks, it's about the media attention. This thing gets more attention than any other phone around."
When you think about it, the iPhone probably got more buzz in the 3-4 years before it was even announced than most phones get in their lifetime.
In all honesty, though, these stories make me sad inside. I'm a card-carrying Apple enthusiast and I will be trying to snatch up an iPhone in the first few seconds that it's released, but these articles automatically throw everyone into an offensive stance (omg look at the UI, everyone will buy one!) or defensive stance (boo it's mad expensive and shiny!). When it comes down to it, who the hell knows; only a handful of people have touched the phone in person, much less used it for an extensive period of time. Any judgments made today are probably going to be based just on the specs or the UI or the form factor, and we all know how variable that turns out: the original iPod ("No wireless? Less space than a Nomad?"), the gripes about the RAZR's interface (which still went on to sell like hotcakes), Betamax (hooray video quality!), and so on.
So that's my little gripe for the night. Now can I have my iPhone yet please? :) - aussiekevin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5That was a pretty sorry excuse for an article.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6It's not about the looks, it's about the media attention. This thing gets more attention than any other phone around.
- Darkhacker, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Well, price does matter, but it depends on what you are buying. The PS3 doesn't really have all that much that the average consumer really cares about. You can brag about a cell processor and better graphics all you want but if there are no innovative games for the console then no one cares. Most people (ie: not digg users) don't care about how the damn thing works. You can list all the buzzwords you want but they just want to know what they can do with it. For most people the PS3 didn't do that much more than the PS2 which already has a wide selection of titles.
Steve Jobs made a good decision in devoting the entire keynote to the iPhone. He showed features that the average person will care about instead of listing buzzwords like Sony. Full web browsing, email, music, three-way calling, ect. The Nintendo Wii provided an entirely new interface for playing games.
Features aren't the _only_ reason people pay a lot for products but I thought it was the main reason the PS3 failed. Another reason is simply the 'cool' factor. The Wii and iPhone have gotten a lot of media attention. As sad as it is, a lot of people will buy crap simply to impress their friends. Is it really necessary to spend $50k-$100k on a car, or $5 on a cup of coffee simply because it has the Starbucks logo? Of course not. But it impresses their friends. The Playstation 3 didn't have that same kind of buzz. - joeconway, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6that wasnt interesting, not even slightly
- BassMastr, on 10/11/2007, -4/+71. Apple
2. Largest telephony company on the face of the planet
3. What Stabone said... Never have you seen this kind of media attention for a phone... - jsynnott, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21. Developers!
2. Developers!
3. Developers! - Raian, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It wont fail-- but will take awhile to gain market-share and here is why:
1) It's too expensive-- 90% of the people saying they want one, most likely wont want to plunk down what Apple is asking for on the release day.
2) Barriers of entry-- in the end you're still dealing with cell-phone companies, which are known to not make it easy to upgrade your phone, especially when you are under a contract with them.
Everyone wants an iPhone-- but that desire stems more out of the frustrations we feel with current phones and the current cell phone regime. The iPhone embodies all our hopes and desires for something better. When in reality it isn't 3g, doesn't have much storage, and wont be great until the 3rd or 4th revision.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2They need to open up for the phones to developers. Otherwise it will only be popular with the fanboys.
- noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And an F-1 racer is just another car, the F-22 is just another plane, and a nuke is just another bomb.
- vertinox, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Of course the iPhone will succeed... Just not at $600 bucks and with Cingular as the provider.
Personally, I *might* get one at $300 if I could go with say Verizon service.
Of course seeing that Verizon hates non-locked down devices and it will be a while before the price drops in half, it might be a while before the iPhone is successful. Still makes me wonder how easy it will be to swap SIM cards and if you can hack the thing to work on other provider and if that is the case then will the data service work at all. - xTRUMANx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You're right. Not sure why i did. Was going to make the same comment but saw him make it first. Guess I just wanted to show my support.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6What about because it's totally awesome looking!
- Genady, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Why? Initially it'll be fanbois. When people get their hands on a phone that they don't have to punch through buttons to see voice mail? It'll change how the phone companies think of voice mail. iPhone may not be the phone that popularizes that concept, but the concept will take over.
- Raian, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yeah of course they are-- but wishful thinking, and saying you'll buy one does not equal sales.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3*Puts applephoneboy.com on blocked site list*
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Wrong...1. It is cool to SOME people to have an IPOD! Not anything else owned by Apple is considered cool by 99% of the population. You guys all seem to think that everyone loves Apple. But the FACT of hte matter is tthat almost everyone who owns an iPod fills it using a Windows PC. Period.
2. It is not going to sell 5 million units.
3. Yes it does. - wushi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2lamest fanboy article i've read this week!
- leontes, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Despite it's looks. I hope we get some real reviews before it gets released. I'm ready to put my 600 bucks down, I just want someone with some integrity to confirm: Yup, this is some premium engineering right here. It does what it does well.
That will be the real question if the iphone will suceed. The market will bear it: if it's good. - betterth, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2And the Iphone does? A 8GB iPod is what consumers want to step down from after their 80GB video? A touchscreen that's gonna get fingerprinty? How about absolutely no tactile feedback on texting and dialing? Or is the selling features, finding restaurants using Google Maps (which my Blackberry Pearl does just fine after you download Google Maps). I fail to see how the Iphone is anything more than the PS3 Cellphone.
- metalhead3767, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Buried as lame. This the only person who would buy something regardless of price with the #1 reason to buy is being that its made by apple is an apple fan bay.
- InSeverance, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Buried for being a generaly crap website...
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Actually, the averge person on the street has NO IDEA how much the iPhone is going to cost. Hate to be the one to bring you back to relaity, but after two days after it was announced, no one in the real world has talked about it again.
- xTRUMANx, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Agreed. Buried.
- inspecality, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2telephony?
- thekms, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1/me waits for an article entitled "3 Reasons Why the iPhone Will Fail"
- m0tbaillie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Nobody with the technical know-how to install an embedded, hacked OS on a mobile phone uses Ubuntu, trust me.
- betterth, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2"Price doesn't matter ... others do half as much ... it happened with the Treo!"
Unfortunately if the competition's "half as much" includes a lot of office driven functionality like exchange email pushing, people can much easily justify the cost. When the extra functionality is Google Maps integration and a touch screen you don't need a stylus for, people start questioning all that money. So I can find the local Thai restaurant with ease, but I can't actually have my e-mail pushed and open MS Office attachments? Hmm... - mink78, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5Buried for iPhone overkill. Give me a break.
- pathy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Life has to be pretty ***** mundane to consider this crap interesting.
- noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1"1) It's too expensive-- 90% of the people saying they want one, most likely wont want to plunk down what Apple is asking for on the release daMost of those people are well aware of the price already.
- uhohpancho, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0It seems Digg is excited about the iPhone but I know what you're all REALLY thinking...
Can I install Ubuntu on it? - joe361, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5Big deal it's just another phone.
- TwilightKing, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Pure, 100% fanboy drivel. After he bought the rediculous domain name, I bet it took him hours to fix all three paragraphs of his article so they sounded remotely mature.
(Before I get Dugg down into the depths of hell, I'd like to mention that I'm dying to get my hands on an iPhone) - schoate09, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Wait, where can I buy this car that has the starbucks logo for $100k?
- snipes, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Surely you jest.
- boogie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Stating the obvious is an art-from :)
- telair, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0Article minus blogspam
3 Reasons Why the iPhone Will Succeed
1. It’s made by Apple. Right now, there is no other tech company that possesses the kind of mind share and respect Apple does. In the past ten years the company has pulled itself out of the doldrums and into millions of homes across the world through cool and innovative products. Ten years ago, people were walking around with Sony Walkmans; today, people aged 5-85 are using a scroll pad and booting up iTunes.
Apple has effectively taken the coolness factor to a max. They know what a good looking product should look like, and they have a good handle on what the world wants. The world is demanding the “be-all, end-all” cell phone that will allow you to bring just one device with you wherever you go. Apple hopes the iPhone will be it. It is.
2. It doesn’t need to sell 50 million units to be a success. What do you think is the most popular phone right now? It’s the Motorola RAZR. That phone has sold better than any phone on the market right now and is widely considered to be a success. According to the company, Motorola has shipped 50 million RAZR units worldwide and the number keeps on getting larger. Does the iPhone have to sell that much to be a success? Hell no. If the iPhone can drop five million units, it will be a success and another one will hit shelves in a couple of years. The iPhone is not meant to compete with the RAZR, and 50 million units just doesn’t make sense for the first iteration. Everyone knows the iPhone will sell well in the beginning, but some are wondering if it will work as hoped and it will succeed like Apple is promising. In one year from now, the iPhone will have sold millions of units worldwide and AT&T will sit atop the cell phone market. ‘Nuff said.
3. Price doesn’t matter. Huh? Price doesn’t matter? Nope. To the average consumer, the iPhone price tag is not a factor on deciding whether or not to pick one of these up. Think about it, the unlocked Nokia N95 is going for well over $750 and people are still purchasing those in droves. If you go on eBay sometime you will find that people are selling a variety of phones at astounding prices that do half as much as the iPhone will. All it will take for people to forget about the price is to hold it once. They will see their best friend with one or maybe even their fathers, and once they see what it does, how long do you think it’ll take before they grab one for themselves? It happened with the RAZR, Blackberry and Treo, why not the iPhone?
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