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- Alright, on 10/10/2007, -5/+111we should never buy anything
- turnlikeawheel, on 10/10/2007, -4/+60Don't hold your breath for this thing to appear in North America anytime soon.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/10/2007, -7/+45Don't believe anything Jobs says when explaining why Apple doesn't have a feature. He'll usually say something smooth but untrue.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -12/+42How about some ***** MMS. I mean cmon even my ***** of ***** phones have MMS wtf.
- norbiu, on 10/10/2007, -13/+32MMS is the least of my worries. And to emphasize on the previous question: Who the ***** uses MMS?? It's like SMS's retarded little brother.
- spargett, on 10/10/2007, -6/+25Interesting that their choosing to use 3G. According to Apple, the 3G chip used way too much battery life to be considered realistic, in addition to a few other elements.
I'd be curious to see what kind of sacrifices the Euro iPhone would have made. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19It's because in the US there's not complete 3G coverage like there is in Europe - they wanted to avoid customers being disappointed with being unable to use 3G features outside of cities and urban areas.
- zykt0n, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18sorry i am wrong, that is real. its in perfect German, that is exactly the german t-mobile logo and they do call their mobile phones section of t-mobile, t-mobile not t-punkt.
- turpenine, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18no, back then when g5 was introduced it was faster, then it wasn't updated for like 4 years.
- nitehawk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Sorry, this is just not true. T-Mobile is called T-Mobile in Germany. T-Punkt is the name of their shops.
Just have a look at http://www.t-mobile.de/ - HappyScrappy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14That's an awful complex workaround.
As an additional note, the iPhone can't send messages to multiple phones at once either! It's ridiculously feature weak. - theducks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13The 3G battery life is less of an issue now than it was in March when the iPhone was announced.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14First of all MMS is VERY popular among school and college students here in Europe. The lack of MMS would be a severe disadvantage.
Secondly, the inability to send a SMS to multiplt recipients will harm it as well considering how the teenagers are the target audience and they like to send texts like "party at my house, bring booze" - darimik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13When it comes to the cell phones, unfortunately US does not get most products.
- HerrEisenheim, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13We'll see a UMTS/HSDPA iPhone in the US when we actually have a network that extends beyond the major coastal cities.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11If you want to roam.
- andykling, on 10/10/2007, -12/+22that's ***** tight. 16gb of FLASH! That's a damn good price... that tech is hardly popular in mobile flash devices. good job Apple. also, PROPS to that damn fast internet!
- blackjack75, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11It's a lovely country.
Now let's get back on the subject. - Billions, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Oh snap, you got 'punkt'
- p51d007, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Not if the wireless companies in America have anything to do about it.
If you want a "feature rich" phone in America, you're better off buying an
unlocked one. Even a feature rich phone in America is more than likely
crippled. - jcostom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Hmm.. Let's see, anyone who wants to send > 160 characters in a single message (not evry1 wnts 2 type lk dis)? Anyone who wants to send a picture from their phone to another phone (like my wife does from time to time when I'm away for work - pics of the kids)?
- LoganT, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Yeah but your W810i doesn't come with 8 GB's of memory.
- thorpus, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12I've heard the speculation that at the same time they're going to release the 16gig iphone in the USA also. It's about time they got into the European market. I'm sure they'll sell a ton.
- HerrEisenheim, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Sure. $999.
- Dgen_X, on 10/10/2007, -7/+15you should just pay attention in class!
in my day we couldn't even have pagers or cell phones on school grounds during school hours. And it was rare to see a kid with a pager, even rarer a cell phone...*****...90% had a dime in their backpack in case they missed the bus - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+15Problem is that equivalent 3G phones can be had a lot cheaper and on better plans in Europe. Let's see how competitive it is to not only pay about three times the price of an average smartphone but to get lumbered with an expensive plan too.
Not to mention the plethora of other good, free 3rd gen phones there are. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Don't buy anything while you're at it. I'm still waiting on the average car to be $6.83.
- richardiscool, on 10/10/2007, -6/+13And in the 1800s they didn't have electricity... your point is?
- jamend, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Not true. Deutsche Telekom has several divisions, including T-Mobile for cell phone stuff and T-Punkt for landline/internet stuff.
- deadbaby, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Please show me a phone with built in 8GB + a memory card slot. The reason most phones have memory card slots is because they skimp on the built in memory and force you to buy your own storage instead. Apple simply decided to build it in.
- mercurysquad, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Absolutely correct. A non-3G phone costing in excess of €400 will never take off here simply because *everyone* expects high speed data, and the coverage is pretty much universal all over Europe.
- blackjack75, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5The advantage of an external slot is that memory prices go down very fast, so you can buy 1gb today and 8gb in six months for the same price, on the same device.
- habbofresh, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7that was before the core series.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6wow, that's the most convoluted way of doing something simple. pray tell me how to create the gfx in the first place?
- jakem1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Why digg HappyScrappy down when he's 100% correct? You can get SDHC cards in capacities up to 16Gb and even micro-SDHC does 8Gb now. These cards also cost a lot less than Apple is charging for the memory in their iPhones and there's no need to worry if you need more memory in the future. I'd hate to be tied down to a fixed amount of memory in a phone that costs as much as the iPhone.
- pradaaddict, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5What about Canada?!?!
We feel so left in the dark up where when it comes to the iPhone. It's such an easy market for Apple but they just don't care. - Skylander, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6In addition to 3G, I hope the next iPhone includes GPS and voice recognition (voice dial) capabilities.
- samste, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5And i was going to buy an iPod Touch at the end of this month when they come out.
Not sure what to do now... - jsebrech, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Any phone except the iPhone, which apparently can't even split a long sms message into multiple actual messages.
- johnIRL, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Does it matter? How many more iPhones will there be by then, let alone even more better ones
- johnIRL, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Hang on...no MMS? That's just retarded. This seems like a phone for people who don't use mobiles(cells), more for the U.S that Europe
- OdinEye, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7"No MMS... inability to record video"...
I don't get it - what crappy video are you folks actually recording with your cell phones? I have a phone with a camera that records video - it's unwatchable garbage. Cramming devices full of half-assed features is just an attempt to make you think you are getting more for your money. An abundance of crap is still crap. - jcostom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Clumsy? She whips out the phone, shoots a picture, clicks send via mms, selects me from her phone book, hits send. Done. Not clumsy at all. Maybe you've got a phone with a lousy UI? She's using a nokia e50, very nice, simple, well thought out ui.
- davman99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The N95 records at 30fps, VGA (640x480), but I don't know if you consider that *good*.
http://www.wirelessinfo.com/content/Nokia-N95-Review/Imaging.htm - nitrousconsumed, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Nothings for sure, until Apple officially announces it. They shouldve added 'rumor' in the title.
- adude, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Even if this is a fake, it's certain Apple will go European by the end of the year... which means it'll have to have 3G... and with the (substantial) drop in the price of the 8GB, it might make sense that they might offer a $400 EDGE and a $600 3G version by the end of the year.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It may seem too high while looking at the USD conversion. That's not really representative of the value perception to EU buyers.
- Bootes, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5ATT has the iPhone exclusively for 5 years. Doesn't mean it will be unlocked after 5 years, just that there won't be a non ATT exclusive iPhone for at least 5 years.
- HerrEisenheim, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It wouldn't matter anyway, because frequency allocations for the US and Europe for UMTS are different.
- norbiu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Nobody adds "In USA" when I hear great news either, so STFU.
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