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- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -8/+84*catches the tossed powerbook and flees out the window mumbling...."rich ***** bastards"...*
- MellerTime, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32Oh sweet momma I hope so... *Tosses his 17" PowerBook G4 to the side on his way for the credit card*
- TeenageBugaboo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25i want a cheaper 12"!!!
- msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Same here. Now to find $3,000 somehow.
- darkyoshi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8The thing to remember is that they are not just another computer company. They are the best computer comany.
- kevnaca, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7NAB is not the right place to anounce a new ipod. It's a pro convention. This 17 inch MBP is more likely the big show as long with demos of released intel ported pro apps.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hey - all you genius' who like to bitch about OS X but have never used it in your life... If don't like the mighty mouse - just use *any other USB mouse on the planet* and it'll work. Quick bitching you numbskulls. One guy at work uses a microsoft USB mouse on his Mac box...
jezz... fear of change / trying something new is just an amazing thing to look at... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I am in NO WAY an apple user or fan, but I will definately be getting one of these.
After owning a 17" HP brick a couple years ago, I would not buy any other 17" laptop on the market because they are heavy and thick. The 17" screen is perfect, but the Apple one is the only 17" Laptop I have seen which is slim (~1"), and not 7 - 9 pounds thick. Battery life is (well, will hopefully be when we find out) alot better than other 17" laptops aswell.
I will be getting one now that it can run windows :) Might learn to not-hate OSX aswell. - iluvdrbonner, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Could this maybe mean the announcement of new the iPods that we have been expecting since the 1st. I hope so because I really want one.
- worthawholebean, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I have a mighty mouse and it works REALLY well for me. I would not have gotten one if it hadn't come with my computer, because it does take a few days to get used to, but the scroll ball is extremely nice, as I find myself trying to scroll sideways on mice with wheels and failing. It very rarely screws up.
- frem001, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5um he paid (for some of it the rest was a christmas gift) for it. Alex is getting his for free... He did get it upgraded and it was probably done by a fan or a personal friend who offered to help him out. Give Kevin a break i'm sure he worked hard to get where he is now.
- TeenageBugaboo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5a widescreen 12" macbook pro for 1,500
- Ryetronics, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I wish they would continue with the 12". You can't beat the portability of it. In fact, a widescreen 12", much like the Dell 710m, would be even nicer.
- aznboi04k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i don't need a 17" screen. please make me a 13.3" macbook pro, apple. thank you.
- 4tygames, on 10/12/2007, -0/+317" is too big for me. I know that the article mentioned that the 2.33Ghz processor would only be available on the 17". Could I get the 2.33Ghz in a 15"? That is what I really want.
- persaltier, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5ugh, not ANOTHER vaccine for AIDS.
- XNine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@astrosmash
Firewire 800 is extremely nice when you're doing in the field video editing. It's much faster than firewire 400 and should you carry around a firewire 800 portable HD, you'd really see a difference in the speed. I think some DV cameras come with fw800 as well. But, really, that's about the only use for fw 800. - Jozer99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I love my Fujitsu P7010 with a 10.6" widescreen. Unless you have poor eyes, you really don't need the extra inches, and 1280x768 on a 10.6" screen is SUPER high DPI, making fonts look really smooth.
- Cybert, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Wishlist:
* Firewire 800
* ISight camera above VGA resolution
* Full 1920x1200 resolution - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"wow. A two button mouse is confusing to you?"
No, it just requires me taking my hands off the keyboard to use effectively (I have CTS of the right wrist).
"Last time I checked, right clicking only took one hand, while Control-Clicking took two. Let me know if this has somehow changed."
If you have CTS like me, you would realize that operating a mouse takes one hand off the keyboard, which means moving back and forth between using a mouse, and using a keyboard. With Apple's layout, I can keep one thumb on the mouse (touchpad in this case), and continue to use both hands on the keyboard and type. To click, I can tap in place, or I can move my thumb down to use the button. To control-click, I can press the control key with my middle finger, and move my thumb down to use the button. If it were to have two buttons side-by-side like my old laptop, I'd need to use two hands, as my hands don't stretch that far on my 14" laptop.
I have in the past owned both a laptop with three buttons (the third "button" is the funky scroller thing HP puts on their machines), and an iBook. I decided to keep the iBook because it was easier on my wrist and hands, and because it was just generally "easier" to use. Of course, these things are of my own personal opinion, but generally are understandable and agreeable. I personally find a one-button design to just be simpler and easier to use with my condition.
Now, if I were using an external mouse with my Mac, certainly I'd have a 3-button mouse (two clickers and a scroller-button, Logitech simple model). But, integrated, I'm quite happy with one. In my opinion, it is easier to use. You might not feel it to be the case, but if you want something different, buy something different. I'd rather keep the one button. - mpeng168, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm waiting for the Intel 4xcore 20GHz model with 1 tb hdd, and 20 gb ram...
- Tenzin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Personally I think Dell 710m is very heavy for 12"
- kevnaca, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Maybe the new ibook will be just like a 12 inch MBP, only with the 13.3 inch screen. I agree that a small model would be great but looks like not many people think so. I think they headed too much into the ibook territory with the smaller version.
- oneshare325, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1hmm.....maybe Tuesday....
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7"Suck it up apple, and put two ***** buttons on your damn laptops. "
Make them. Using one button is less confusing and more productive on a laptop IMO, and I prefer it that way. If I need to "right click", I press the ctrl button and click (which is very easy to do one-handedly, meaning I can keep my other hand on the keyboard and go right back to typing). - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Games will always run faster on XP than they do on OSX, for the simple reason that they were designed and optimized for XP. A lot of these porting houses just stop optimizing when they get 30-40fps out of midrange Macs. Curiously though, Quake III is much faster under OSX than XP, so there are exceptions, but I think thats just because someone at ID loved OSX - but that game is ancient anyway.
When I get a MacIntel, I'll probably never play games on OSX again - I'll keep XP around just for that purpose, it will truely be the best of both worlds. - Jozer99, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I think they could solve the problem by combining the iBook and Powerbook lines in to one MacBook line. You have the larger, more expensive MacBook Pros with 15 and 17 inch screens, and then a 12 or 13 inch MacBook with a low base price, but lots of extra upgrades for people who want an ultraportable with the power of a Macbook Pro. The previous generation of iBooks and 12" PBs were almost identical. What was the difference? Aluminum enclosure, a DVD burner, the graphics card, and an extra $1000?
Oh, and everyone needs to get a life and stop drooling over Apple. They are a computer company, just like any other one. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5What are you using FW800 for?
- theprez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Jozer99
Are you just talking out of your ass, or did Apple state this somewhere? - Jozer99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Depends on the card. Mac is OpenGL only, wheras Windows games tend to be DirectX. Game developers know that the money is in selling Windows games, so they only do half hearted attempts at OpenGL graphics engines. You get a slowdown on a PC quite often if you switch the game from running in DirectX to OpenGL (if it is even an option). Also, MacOS X with all its fancy graphics and bells and whistles has lots more overhead than Windows XP. While I won't say the bells and whistles are bad, the price you pay for them is seen clearly in gaming performance.
Also, it would help if Apple included non-crappy graphics cards with their machines. When I pay $4,000 for a an "ultimate quad core system" I don't want to see nVidia's best of 2003 sitting in the PCIe slot. For $4,000 in the PC world, you get dual 7800s or 7900s, not a single 6600. - thirdtenor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i thought the MBP's were using ziff sockets, but whatever
It will be interesting to see if they offer a 1920x1200 screen for the NAB crowd or stick to the apple DPI standard - chad78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what a fing surprise,it's sunday and no new Apples...
when will you morons stop reporting this dumbass rumors? - Jozer99, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@geminitojanus
Last time I checked, right clicking only took one hand, while Control-Clicking took two. Let me know if this has somehow changed.
I don't see how Mac people can praise the mighty mouse by saying "it takes some getting used to". I want a mouse. I don't want one that takes some getting used too. Its three buttons and a scroll wheel. I bought a mouse with those specs in 1999 from MS, and it works great, and didn't take any "getting used to". I think Apple took a uselessly novel idea (using capacitence to sense clicks) that was way too expensive (buttons work fine), and compromised it to trim down the costs and boost profit margins (making it work with only one button at a time). - T0FU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1i guess i need to stop drinking so i can sell this kidney and get the 17" cause that bitch is gonna be expensive.
- treed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3There's a program that'll let you Ctrl+Click.
- dvgraphics, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"2.33 GHz Core Duo 17" MacBook Pros this Sunday?"
Adding a question mark at the end of a statement / sentence doesn't make it a question? - XNine, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I think you'll find OS X extremely simple, and yet extremely powerful on your new machine. Although, iSync is absolutely worthless anymore. You can really only sync *certain* phones with it, and otherwise everything else is sync'd through some other app now (in other words, don't bother using iSync). Have fun with it. Learn it. Who knows, you may even be impressed?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5"Not a huge fan of invisible buttons that don't work half the time."
The 'Mighty Mouse' does indeed suck. I knew I wasnt the only one who couldnt get it to right click half the time - as though thats rocket science or something? You have to hand it to Apple though, they either make something spectacularly awesome (iPod, Airport Express, MacBook Pro, OSX.. etc) or spectacularly craptacular (Mighty Mouse, eMate, Newton, Apple III, Cube, etc.. etc..).
At least its not as bad as that hockey-puck they used to ship with the original iMac though.. man that thing was an historic disaster. - Jozer99, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Many laptops have soldered chips. In a laptop as thin as the PB, not using a socket saves valuable millimeters. Apple is often concerned with style over functionality, and in this case, as in many others, decided to use soldered processors to make their laptop thinner and better looking, instead of the more conventional, and often better, way of doing things. Past examples of form over fuction are: Cube, Mighty Mouse, Plasic Cinema Displays (no adjustment whatsoever), and the super delicate powerbooks that are easily boken by the opening the screen too quickly.
- streak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1In spite of the allure of Mac OS X, I'm right there with the guy who's also stuck with ThinkPads because no other decent portable has a TrackPoint. (Once you've used one, you'll never go back! And no, Dell does not make decent portables!!)
- Ryetronics, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2How are the Apple's handling XP when they only have a single button on the touch pad?
- ophello, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Most people I know with Mactops use two-button mice, or Apple's not-so-Mighty Mouse...
Not a huge fan of invisible buttons that don't work half the time. C'mon Apple, make us a 'REAL' two button mouse with a scroll wheel that can truly scroll two axes at once. - Dakk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1You just have a nipple fetish.
- namae, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I have a feeling this is going to be an other over hyped announcement and we'll get some other "lame" product like the ipod hi-fi. That said, I'm still holding back 'till rev 2.0 macbooks, hopefully by the end of the year.
- bacon_skoda, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2check the new gateway one.
$1399 lowest. - flite, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3what about no soldering chips onto the socket?
merom core in a macbook pro. - kevnaca, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5I believe they are soldered for the reason to f u in the a. They want you to pay them for the upgrade.
- chad78, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1oh god - yeah another pos rumor....
- ninjakin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4to me I think it is just stuff ported over from windows to the mac, and vise versa .. and everyone knows that directx is better at gaming than openGL.. that's why it got taken off the front page.. cus the post title sucked, also it didn't factor in Rosetta
I'm no mac fan boy but RTFA before you start talking - adizzy615, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4@geminitojanus
wow. A two button mouse is confusing to you? -
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