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Why Obama Beat Clinton -- and Why He'll Beat McCain, Too

huffingtonpost.com — No -- in the end, I believe, it all came down to a hard-to-pinpoint, never discussed, but desperately important matter: the personal authenticity of two human beings.

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knumbknuts, on 05/09/2008, -34/+21There's something about the huffington post pontificating about authenticity that has beer coming out my nose.

That having been said, a good chunk of America isn't going to vote for Obama just because he's (arguably) authentic (very arguably). A good chunk of America will vote for him because of policy issues.

Shocking, I know. Controversial, yes. But, I stand by the premise: presidents often are elected because of what they stand for.

Mind you, the easiest way to tell what they stand for is to look at what they've stood for. Them's some tough tea leaves to read with Obama and his bantamweight fight record.
- Hillsfar, on 05/09/2008, -4/+6Curious. What do you think Bush or Reagan stood for?
  - knumbknuts, on 05/09/2008, -10/+7Reagan stood for huge national deficits, a hell of a large military, and scaring the crap outta the rooskies (they almost went nuke in '85 after his mike comment). I was too young to know at the time of the election what he stood for, in terms of policy.
    
    Bush was every bit the cheeto in terms of previous policy as Obama. Crunchy and flavorful, no substance. I had no idea what he stood for and I didn't vote for him.
  - rancemo, on 05/09/2008, -11/+5They both talked a good game when running, they just failed miserably to execute their campaign platforms. I have a feeling Obama will fail as well. Government just doesn't work.
    - Hillsfar, on 05/09/2008, -4/+3He's gonna get a Democratic landslide into Congress.
    - NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/09/2008, -4/+8oh great Hillsfar, come to CA, let me show you what a Democratic landslide does, 108% budget increase in 10 years, 9% population growth in that time frame, and not one public service worth a damn that isn't still crying for more money.
      - petrodollar, on 05/10/2008, -3/+2Last time I checked arnold was still a (R).
      - NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2The state has been FKed up much earlier than 5 years ago. And his title is meaningless. He likes big government and spending ***** of money.
      - flip2trip, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2Arnold is about as much of a Republican as Limbaugh is a Democrat.
    - cramtod, on 05/10/2008, -1/+3PJ O'Rourke has it right, "The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it. "
      - NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2Like I said above, CA is a glaring beacon of proof about the same fact for democrats.
- mozert, on 05/09/2008, -2/+4"That having been said, a good chunk of America isn't going to vote for Obama just because he's (arguably) authentic (very arguably). A good chunk of America will vote for him because of policy issues."
  
  hmm ok.. but tell me why your friends of the MSM have insisted so much on WRIGHT if it is, as you say, all about only policy issues.
  - B1663r, on 05/09/2008, -5/+5Because you ultra liberals were successfully baited into supporting a loser candidate. All McCain has to do is start talking about Obamas tax plans (this part has already started) and his support will collapse as most Americans learn that they will get a hefty tax increase under Obama (even the retired senior citizens whose capital gains is gonna jump for 15% to 28% will probably be worse off under the obama plan than they are the current plan)
    
    Obama is probably Carl Roves masterpiece, his Sistine Chapel if you will.
    - MacEnvy, on 05/10/2008, -3/+4As opposed to McCain's "tax plan", which is to stumble along with the same missteps that we've seen under W, pushing us further into recession. And we Democrats always have to clean it up, because we're the only ones honest enough to tell the American people that not everything is free, and if you want a (real) national security plan and stronger influence abroad it costs some money. If McCain actually had a real plan to return us to fiscal solvency he'd have to start with ending the trillion dollar hemorrhage that is the war in Iraq.
      
      Personally, I think we're due for a 10% overall reduction in federal spending, cutting waste. But none of them have the balls to promise that.
      - B1663r, on 05/10/2008, -2/+2Ok, thank you for supporting my conclusion. I am surprised it is coming from you though. Yes, when the MSM starts taking about Obamas TRILLION DOLLAR TAX INCREASE, it doesnt matter who it targets, the Obama campaign crashes and burns.
suzywang3000, on 05/09/2008, -35/+3Jesus must be petrified of Obama.
- WasabiBomb, on 05/09/2008, -4/+7Well, you certainly seem frightened of him.
- xrant, on 05/09/2008, -1/+7You're making an assumption that there even is a "Jesus" and it's not a creation of fiction to scare the masses into following the way of the church.
  - masterm1nd, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1My name is Jesus. But I guess I'm making the assumption you're not just trying to bash other peoples beliefs.
- mzx639, on 05/09/2008, -4/+2Didn't you mean Allah?
- JoeVet, on 05/10/2008, -2/+5The republicans sure are quaking in their boots!
  - masterm1nd, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1That may be what they want you to think.
korvan504521, on 05/09/2008, -46/+41When the real campaign begins, Obama isn't going to be able to campaign on "hope", he's going to have to campaign on issues and policy. And a lot of americans may not want to vote for another Bush, but they won't want to vote for Obama after they find out the policies and issues he supports. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but regardless, I can't vote for him because he doesn't support the issues that matter to me.

Lower taxes. Small government. Fiscal responsibility. Right to bear arms. Above all, getting people off welfare, not pushing more onto it. Show me that Obama supports these issues and actually has some ideas on how to work the country through its current crisis and he has my vote. Otherwise I have to go with McCain. /sigh. Because at least I know he won't take my guns.
- wynja, on 05/09/2008, -22/+15You sir are a moron. No one is going to take your ***** guns. No one is that stupid. There would be riots in the ***** streets if people tried to take guns from citizens. Every militia in America would declare war on the very ***** that were sent to take their guns. No, that's the oldest scare tactic in the Republican arsenal.
  Lower taxes? Bush hasn't lowered taxes for anyone except the ultra rich, and since you troll digg I'm going to assume you don't fit into the top 1% of wage earners in this country. In fact, we would have enough money if it weren't for a retarded ***** war that sucks up over half of the national budget which you ***** McCain has promised to keep pursuing.
  - NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/09/2008, -12/+10You sir are complacent and one of the millions of slaves to incrementalism.
    
    Please stop with the rich tax cut propaganda: I'm not rich whatsoever and my taxes went down 3% with Bush's cut, just like the highest tax bracket. You guys like to flip between percentages and dollars at will when presenting arguements on how the rich pay less taxes than the poor.
    - wynja, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Obviously you fail at math.
  - dopke, on 05/09/2008, -9/+5Wow, another misinformed Obama fan. Bush tax cuts were ACROSS THE BOARD. I'm a student, and I'm benefiting from Bush's tax cuts this year because I'll be taxed 0% on my capital gains from stocks (long term). So cut the ***** out with the "Bush tax cuts for the rich." It's one of the reasons why Obama is not "authentic." Obama also proclaims Bush's tax cuts are for the rich, and he will raise taxes on the rich again, when he is actually raising capital gains taxes which affect people across the board.
    - NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/10/2008, -4/+3No, you didn't benefit, because.......uh......uh......uh... hold on while I look up an arguement from Daily Kos
      - petrodollar, on 05/10/2008, -2/+3...because all my tax savings went to pay for sky high gas prices caused by Bush's horrendously ill conceived and poorly executed foreign policy.
        
        http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.htm ...
        
        Less than $1.70/gallon when Bush entered office.
      - twomeyw23334, on 05/10/2008, -3/+2Yeah, and nothing to do with leftist not allowing any new refineries since the 70s or drilling anywhere in America.
        
        $2.23 when the Dems took control of senate. It looks like the majority of the change happened after the Dems took control!
      - twomeyw23334, on 05/10/2008, -2/+2Oh yeah, definitely not supply / demand either.
      - petrodollar, on 05/10/2008, -2/+2"Yeah, and nothing to do with leftist not allowing any new refineries since the 70s or drilling anywhere in America."
        
        Oil companies have been allowed to expand existing facilities for decades and have not done so. Why on earth would they want to build new ones when it would be so much cheaper to expand the capacity of existing ones?
        
        "Oh yeah, definitely not supply / demand either."
        
        What in the ***** are you talking about? Of course it's a supply/demand issue. One of the largest single sources of crude oil has been effectively taken offline, reducing supply. Security concerns in other countries with large supplies have been exacerbated by ***** ass foreign policy, introducing uncertainty into the market, leading to higher spot prices.
      - DarkShroud, on 05/10/2008, -2/+1supply / demand:
        The demand is up and the supply is down because we aren't allowed to drill where we know the oil is at and were not allowed to build new refineries.
      - petrodollar, on 05/10/2008, -3/+2No. ANWR and coastal drilling would lead to an estimated average $0.05/gallon decrease in gasoline prices over ten years. You'll have to do better.
      - masterm1nd, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1We must become energy independent but we mustn't use any of our resources.
      - twomeyw23334, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1"No. ANWR and coastal drilling would lead to an estimated average $0.05/gallon decrease in gasoline prices over ten years."
        based on...... don't even tell me your still using the 1998 report that was using $40 a barrel as the target for profitable oil and basing the price savings accordingly. But as all you leftist are still using that data, I'm sure next your going to say its going to take 10 years to get the oil to right, (I've been hearing that for over 10 years now).
        
        "You'll have to do better."
        Since 1985, US oil production has dropped 25% while demand has risen.
        All of The PROVEN reserves in the US could provide us with 31 years of oil at 20 million barrels per day - with zero importation!
        
        If you want to save the world from global warming stop whining about gas prices, I thought higher prices were a good thing? The idea that on some threads Republicans are destroying the world in the name of big oil and in other threads Republicans are the cause of higher gas prices is just absurd.
    - elipabst, on 05/10/2008, -1/+22/3 of his tax cut went to the top 10% of earners. Who the f*ck has stocks as a student? Are you going to be complaining about how much the gax tax costs your chauffeur to drive you to class too?
    - masterm1nd, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1.
    - wynja, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Hey you dumb ***** your ranting about the capitol gains tax? Your a student and you've got capitol gains? ***** trust fundie. ***** off. No one cares that your daddy left a silver spoon lodged in your ass.
  - B1663r, on 05/09/2008, -2/+2Ok so at a 150k a year, (top 3% not the top 1% that benefited from Bush tax cuts) I benefited from neither the Bush tax cuts, and Im going to be nailed by Obamas tax on rich people (I'm rich now???? Did not know that...)
    
    I am gonna hafta hold my nose and vote McCain... purely out of self interest.
    - NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/10/2008, -2/+1Oh yeah man, rich by today's standards is $60k+ a year individual. In CA it's 40K+, which is when the 9% highest bracket kicks in. It's retarded.
    - elipabst, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3He's openly stated that there would be no tax increase for families earning less than approx 200k, you just won't get a tax *cut*. For a single filer, the top 2 brackets are still 165k+. If you're single and making 165k, you aren't exactly eating ramen noodles every night. At 150k you should be under the cutoff.
      
      http://www.govote.com/2008/Barack_Obama_Tax_Reform ...
  - masterm1nd, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3"You sir are a moron"
    
    Haha, classic.
    - wynja, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1It's a great line to ***** off the author. I reserve it for the most ignorant of the crowd.
- nomadhacker, on 05/09/2008, -8/+27I'm sorry... the fiscal responsibility and welfare reasons just don't hold any water whatsoever after the last 7+ years. As far as fiscal responsibility and welfare, McCain's probably the last person you should vote for (aside from putting George W back in)
  - DavidS9, on 05/09/2008, -13/+9No Obamas the last McCain is third to last
  - curtisag, on 05/09/2008, -7/+10Just because Bush totally betrayed the Republican principle of fiscal responsibility doesn't mean McCain will. He has a long record of railing against pork barrel spending in the Senate. And I would like to see how the Democrats attain their goal of national health care without resorting to deficit spending. I want to support a candidate that cares about the deficit and out of control spending.
    - MacEnvy, on 05/10/2008, -2/+5He'll never maintain get anywhere without stopping the war. That's a HUGE amount of money that isn't doing us any good.
      - curtisag, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2I can't defend that. That's why I supported Ron Paul.
    - wynja, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1He has 4 years of history sucking Bush's ***** too. He's full of hot air.
- SpinningHead, on 05/10/2008, -1/+13Obama voted for the Vitter amendment so you can stop clutching your guns now. Incidentally I'm a liberal gun owner and proud Obama supporter. McCain also doesn't mind domestic spying or torture.
  - lowflyer00, on 05/10/2008, -3/+3*****. There is no such thing as a "liberal gun owner." McCain is one of the most outspoken critics of torture.
    - elipabst, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Um yeah, I'm a liberal and I own an assload of guns. I'm also an ardent supporter of the second amendment. It may be a shock to you that not everyone can fit into your little retarded world view, so STFU already.
    - SpinningHead, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Wow, thats even more ignorant than claiming there are no pro-choice republicans. Ive enjoyed shooting for years and am an ardent liberal. I believe the constitution must be defended (limited executive power as opposed to the neocons view of the executive). I am also pro-choice and believe that our tax dollars should come back to our communities rather than into the pockets of Exxon and Halliburton. If you read some history, youd know our party was started by Jefferson who thought we should have revolution every few years.
    - wynja, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Outspoken against torture. Might I add that he's been sucking the Bush family dick for years and voting all those anti torture bills right the ***** out of the Senate.
    - lowflyer00, 22 hr 38 min ago, -0/+0ROFLMAO - elipabst, you may own an assload of something, but I seriously doubt it's guns. A true ardent supporter of the 2A would never vote against it. Voting for a liberal dem is a vote for gun bans and more restrictions on law-abiding citizens. Liberals want everyone powerless and dependent on the government.
      
      Join the NRA!
      
      BTW - for the rest of you limp-wristed liberals, the first half of my post was pretty much sarcasm.
- Stevo23, on 05/10/2008, -0/+6When the real campaign begins, Obama can campaing on issues instead of *****. The problem with the Hillary v. Obama race is they're very close on policy, so the only thing she can attack on is flag-pin *****.
- burningmanstan, on 05/10/2008, -0/+5Fiscal responsibility? I didn't know a never ending trillion+ dollar war was fiscally responsible. Welfare? the entire country of Iraq is on welfare. We pay/bribe some of them just so they don't kill each other and our troops, we build a 26 building embassy, we pay for projects that are never finished, and we hand out money that disappears with no paper trail. We'll certainly be paying welfare for the tens of thousands troops that come home with permanent disabilities: brain damage, post traumatic stress, chronic pain, missing limbs. etc. In case you haven't noticed the current crisis is a never ending war in Iraq that is a cash cow for terrorists and war profiteers.
- jmkiii, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1My cold dead hands come to mind.
- SPThom, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1"Lower taxes. Small government. Fiscal responsibility."
  
  Tom Skerritt.
- jlcotton1968, on 05/10/2008, -0/+0WTF???
Hillsfar, on 05/09/2008, -10/+64I donated to Ron Paul's campaign. I voted for Ron Paul. But I also just genuinely like Obama. I've read his Audacity of Hope. I know he's a liberal Democrat but he works well with Republicans. He's likeable. He's humble - willing to admit his mistakes. However flawed you think Obama is, no one can reasonably argue that he is shrill, or that he's a negative attack dog, or that he has lost his bearings.

Just compare the number of flip-flops each candidate has made. Obama has said he voted for a gas tax holiday and it didn't work and that's why he's against it. Neither Hillary nor McCain would admit mistakes like that.
- zepher5150, on 05/09/2008, -7/+10Very well put.
- DavidS9, on 05/09/2008, -13/+8How is Obama with in a mile of a Conservative? And when has he EVER worked with republicans? as far as I have seen he is so far left he makes Hilliary look like a RINO. If you even think you could get anything close to what Ron Paul would want you are smoking something serious
  - elipabst, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2He voted against late term abortion. He voted for the Vitter amendment which would prohibit federal authorities from seizing lawfully owned weapons in cases of disasters of national emergencies. Here is recent legislation that he worked with Republicans on:
    
    "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act" - cosponsored with McCain(R)
    Lugar-Obama proliferation and threat reduction initiative - sposored with Dick Lugar (R)
    Coburn-Obama Transparency Act - sponsored with Tom Coburn (R)
    Nuclear Weapons Threat Reduction Act of 2007 - sponsored with Chuck Hagel (R)
    Iran Sanctions Enabling Act sponsored with Brownback(R), Coburn(R), Coleman(R), Collins(R), Dole (R), Lott (R), Martinez (R), etc
    Climate Change Education Act - sponsored with Olympia Snowe (R)
    Genomics and Personalized Medicine Act of 2007 - sponsored with Richard Burr (R)
    Mercury Market Minimization Act of 2007 - sponsored with Lisa Murkowski (R)
    Fuel Economy Reform Act - sponsored with Norm Coleman (R), Dick Lugar (R), Gordon Smith (R), Arlen Specter (R)
    
    If you want I can go further than the last year.
- aussiejan, on 05/09/2008, -6/+19I agree. Obama is completely genuine and acknowledges that he is not perfect and is willing to admit his mistakes and learn from them. I like to think I am a good judge of character. The first time I saw GW during a debate with Al Gore in 2000, I told my husband he scared the beegeezes out of me. When I saw Obama after he won the US senate, I told my husband he would be the first black president. I just didn't think it would be this soon.
  - DavidS9, on 05/09/2008, -14/+7It wont be and only if we are really unlucky would he ever be. Obama is the worst possible person that could be elected president. Just look at what he wants to do. Then ask to see the price tag. Also look at what he has done in the past, those weren't mistakes. Obama has only got as far as he did because he was black not in-spite of it. If he was white he would have been sent back to the dugg out before his name even hit the papers. Just scratching the surface of his past is throwing up so many red flags about his character it's not even funny, and no one is looking at Obama half as hard as they have looked at Hillary and McCain.
    
    Looking at his past actions and voting record shows me the only mistake he has made is he hasn't been in the public eye long to know that he should have kept a muzzle on his wife and distance himself as far as he could from his preacher.
- d3mag0gu3, on 05/09/2008, -10/+7You are a obama plant masquerading as a Ron Paul supporter. God do I hate you obamabots. There is no way you could have supported Ron Paul and now support Obama. Ron Paul stands against practically everything Obama stands for and vice versa. Obama has not worked well with Republicans and he is very partisan.
  - elipabst, on 05/10/2008, -1/+3"Obama has not worked well with Republicans and he is very partisan."
    
    He's worked with republican co-sponsors on about 10 bills this past year alone.
- brianbennett, on 05/10/2008, -9/+3"he works well with Republicans" ...bull. There is not a single notable instance where Obama crossed the aisle.
  - JekJob, on 05/10/2008, -3/+7In the Illinois Senate he worked with Republicans to pass the first ethics reform in years. He expanded healthcare in the state along with Republican Sandra Pihos - it brought healthcare coverage to more than 154,000 residents, including 70,000 children. In the US Senate he worked with Republican senators from Indiana and Oregon to introduce legislation to raise fuel economy standards - legislation that Republican Gov. Schwarzenegger applauded because it complimented California's low carbon fuel standard. He introduced the Keep Americans Warm Act of 2007 which was cosponsored by Minnesota and Maine Republicans. Jim Bunning, a Republican from Kentucky, introduced a bill with Obama (S.3325), which was cosponsored by three other Republicans. Obama cosponsored S.796, a bipartisan legislation.
    
    This was of my own research, and are just some of the examples of Obama "crossing the isle." Maybe if you, DavidS9 and d3mag0gu3, above, did some research, you wouldn't make yourselves look so bad.
    
    "Republican legislators respected Senator Obama. Senator Obama worked on some of the deepest issues we had, and he was successful in a bipartisan way." - State Sen. Kirk Dillard, a John McCain supporter.
    - brianbennett, on 05/11/2008, -0/+1Big deal. What has he done in the Senate that counts? ...you know, the United States senate.
    - JekJob, on 05/11/2008, -0/+1You obviously didn't get past the second sentence in my comment. What were you doing when you were supposed to be learning to read?...you know, read words.
      
      AND, as elipabst posted:
      
      "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act" - cosponsored with McCain(R)
      Lugar-Obama proliferation and threat reduction initiative - sposored with Dick Lugar (R)
      Coburn-Obama Transparency Act - sponsored with Tom Coburn (R)
      Nuclear Weapons Threat Reduction Act of 2007 - sponsored with Chuck Hagel (R)
      Iran Sanctions Enabling Act sponsored with Brownback(R), Coburn(R), Coleman(R), Collins(R), Dole (R), Lott (R), Martinez (R), etc
      Climate Change Education Act - sponsored with Olympia Snowe (R)
      Genomics and Personalized Medicine Act of 2007 - sponsored with Richard Burr (R)
      Mercury Market Minimization Act of 2007 - sponsored with Lisa Murkowski (R)
      Fuel Economy Reform Act - sponsored with Norm Coleman (R), Dick Lugar (R), Gordon Smith (R), Arlen Specter (R)"
      
      All those.
- TsuruchiBrian, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1I am in the same boat.
  I donated $800 to Ron Paul. I will write his name in if it's not on the ballot in November. I know he is not going to win, but it doesn't matter.
  
  Of the 3 remaining "viable" candidates Obama is BY FAR the most palatable. Maybe he is the farthest policy-wise from Ron Paul, but he seems pretty genuine. That part reminds me more of Ron Paul than anything Hillary or McCain has said or done or could ever say or do at this point.
  
  I might disagree with Obama, but I also disagree with Ron Paul on a few things as well. Hopefully Obama wins and hopefully he doesn't disappoint us.
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BohicaTwentyTwo, on 05/09/2008, -27/+16Oh great, another, "I don't why I love Obama, I just do" article.
- Jexie, on 05/09/2008, -6/+19No actually, the article is talking about "the personal authenticity of two human beings" - this should have been an easy one for you, you're not even required to read the article you just have to read the synopsis under the headline.
- sassip, on 05/10/2008, -2/+2BTW, learn to use the EDIT function.
  - masterm1nd, on 05/10/2008, -2/+2Why would you say "by the way" if that's all you said?
Koush, on 05/09/2008, -14/+6Yea, i wouldn't take this too much as a reliable source, just look at the links below the article they allowed.
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- xBreakdownx, on 05/09/2008, -4/+2Why in the world would u want sexy photos of Hillary Clinton?
  - NeoNightmareX, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2Buried as Inaccurate: None Exist, She is Ugly
- jackelopeus, on 05/09/2008, -2/+0Wouldn't mind a few of Chelsea...
  - strooltz, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2ugg... i think i just vomited in my mouth a little...
eminiguy, on 05/09/2008, -10/+19Obam will win in the GE hands down. This time around, Republicans stand no freaking chance whatsoever. McCain may be their best shot (Ron Paul would have been better, IMO, but he is not mainstream enough for them), but he has no chance to defeat Obama, unless, of course, Americans are even more stupid than the rest of the world believes they are. I hope that's not the case though, although it is never a smart idea to underestimate someone's stupidity.
- KingGoonie, on 05/09/2008, -8/+3Thats funny, national polls show that while Clinton would beat McCain by about 10%.. .Obama would lose to him. So is that your definition of no chance?
  - bicyclethief, on 05/09/2008, -1/+6If there's one truth to be learned from politics it's that polls don't mean *****. Clinton had an overwhelming lead in the polls over Obama prior to the primaries once upon a time...
    - elipabst, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1If there's one truth it's that he's cooked up these polls in his mind, because all but 1 major poll (Fox) show Obama beating McCain as well.
      
      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
- Zarchon, on 05/10/2008, -7/+3Obama's wife is a racist,his pasture is a racist, so if you surround yourself with racist then I assume you are a racist. Of course Digg will disagree with me but I am hoping the vast majority of Americans, or even a slight majority will feel this way come election time.
  - kublerross, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2i didnt even know he owned herbivores
  - renegadeafk, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1Any one with half a brain will disagree with you
- Barackalypse, on 05/10/2008, -2/+1Leave it to the Democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory =)
- indiancompanion, on 05/10/2008, -1/+5"but he has no chance to defeat Obama, unless, of course, Americans are even more stupid than the rest of the world believes they are"
  -Well, we did elect bush not once, but twice
  - Hodor, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1I'm pretty sure you only elected him once.
Happy_Phantom, on 05/09/2008, -21/+13Beat McCain?

Not in a hundred years!
- nomadhacker, on 05/09/2008, -5/+11you mean the end of the Iraq war?
  - DavidS9, on 05/09/2008, -6/+6Yeah cause you know we've been fighting Japan and Germany for the last 60yrs. Since we still a PRESENCE there.
    Which is what McCain ment before his words were twisted.
    - swrostmore, on 05/09/2008, -3/+7McCain meant that we'll stay in Iraq until no more troops are dying, no matter how long it takes, no matter how many troops have to die to accomplish that goal...and once that mission is accomplished (ensuring no more troops are dying), we'll stay in Iraq for 100 more years.
- BrendanSheehan, on 05/10/2008, -2/+1You're right, not Not in a hundred years - but in one.
abszint, on 05/09/2008, -12/+3and also ***** the riaa
- DavidS9, on 05/09/2008, -0/+4The what?
- mozert, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1***** THE RIAA!*
  
  *if you going to be insane, at least do it correctly.
NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/09/2008, -6/+7Let's see, maybe it's because we've never had more worthless yet damaging representation....
- Barackalypse, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1So your solution is to promote some of that worthless representation from the Democratic controlled 110th Congress to the Presidency? And then on top it off these same individuals are both promoting the same tired big government policies to deal with the problems these policies helped create in the first place. Obama is right, we need change, if only voters realized what he's proposing doing is more of the same.
drgooch, on 05/09/2008, -13/+5::yawn::

more crap...
Obama Sucks
Clinton Sucks
McCain Sucks
You suck for posting this.
Stevanoski, on 05/09/2008, -16/+4I just don't know if I can take 4 years of Boma whining.
ecarver530, on 05/09/2008, -22/+8ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING

Are you seriously claiming that Obama is more authentic than John McCain??

HAHAHAHAHAHA this is out of control!

He is going to get creamed in November, McCain has 24 years more experience, has actually shown unity by working across party lines, was not endorsed by a terrorist group, and does not have best friends and a wife who hate America. Another reason that he'll win is the Dems have horrible strategy. eminiguy's comment above is the perfect example: by claiming Bush is a stupid choice, they insult more than half of the electorate. Might I remind you that Bush was reelected by a 5% margin with disapproval ratings over 55%. A capable Democratic candidate nominated quickly could easily have beaten McCain, but the Dems have no chance now because both candidates are incompetent and have been bickering selfishly for 4 months now. McCain will win in a landslide if Obama is nominated.
- AvidPreatorian, on 05/09/2008, -3/+3well you certainly sound like a mccain supporter. 2009 is Obama's year, get used to it or it'll hurt.
- swrostmore, on 05/09/2008, -2/+9McCain is anything but authentic. He's done a complete 180 degree flip-flop in order to run for President. He didn't vote for Bush in 2000, now he supports all Bush's policies. In 2004 he proposed a joint ticket with John Kerry, he almost left the Republican party and now he's running as a Reagan Republican. He said the Bush tax cuts" offended his conscience", now he wants to make them permanent. After he got the GOP nomination he voted against an immigration bill THAT HE PROPOSED. Authentic? Don't make me laugh.
- Edson95, on 05/09/2008, -0/+5Bush was a stupid choice anyone who disagrees is either ignorant or has had there head in the sand for 8 years.
- bicyclethief, on 05/09/2008, -0/+4The reason McCain will lose can be distilled down to this: he is too much like Bush. In the end, that will be the deciding factor.
- Plantagenet, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2Obama is a once-in-a-gneration gift to humanity. His love for his fellow men can save you---if you will let him in your heart!
- JoeVet, on 05/10/2008, -0/+3Are you seriously claiming that John McCain is more authentic than Obama?? McCain has abandoned every stance he has taken as a senator to pander to the religious right. He used to be admired by moderates on both sides but he has clearly shunned his moderate values and embraced the agenda of the religious fanatics. He has set himself up as the third coming of the Bush administration and lost all of his own self in the process.
swrostmore, on 05/09/2008, -5/+25"My friends, I will have an energy policy[...] which will eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East, that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East."
-McCain

ORLY? So we did in fact send our young men and women into conflict in the middle east because of our dependence on middle east oil, Mr. McCain?
- Rakuseki, on 05/09/2008, -10/+2That last fragment isn't a question, nor is it accurate. Dugg down.
  - swrostmore, on 05/09/2008, -3/+10100% accurate, dugg you down.
  - BrendanSheehan, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Not accurate "Rakuseki" ?
    
    Ok then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQFf03VwdLA
- Barackalypse, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2So, where was the oil in Kosovo, Somalia, Afghanistan, and Vietnam? The history of our recent conflicts suggest our problem is that we can't mind our own ***** business, not that we're out to secure oil. Let me tell you, a half trillion dollars secures a lot more oil at far better prices than an invasion and destabilization of a region that produces most of it. SImply lifting the economic sanctions on Iraq would have let us buy as much of it as they could pump.
  - swrostmore, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2Kosovo, Somalia, and Vietnam are in the Middle East now? heh. Look, if Iraq was pumping oil at full capacity, what would happen? Cheap oil, thats what. In fact, thats exactly what was happening shortly before the war - Saddam was defying OPEC caps, and pumping as much as he wanted. I'm not saying the reason Bush declared war was to act as an enforcer for OPEC quotas (although the Saudi OPEC kingpins did lift the caps briefly, driving prices down immediately before Bush's 2004 reelection), but ask yourself, would people that profit from the extraction and sale of oil rather have abundant, cheap oil or scarse, expensive oil?
nastronomical, on 05/09/2008, -7/+1Whateeeeeevvvvvverrrrrr yyyyyoooooouuuu saaaayyyyy suuuuuurrrrrreeeee?!?
- johnn11238, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1wwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyy aaaaareeeeeeeeeee yyyyyyyyooooooouuuuuuuu ttttttttyyyyyypppppppppppiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg lllllliiiiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeee tthhiiiiiiiiiiissssssssss??????????????????????????????????????
stealthalbino, on 05/09/2008, -4/+23If there wasn't anything else I appreciate about Obama (believe me, there are plenty of things I do) it's the fact that when I hear him talking I enjoy it. I actually want to hear what this guy has to say. With Bush, I can hardly sit through thirty seconds of him talking and I have to change the channel. McCain and Clinton aren't too far from that either.
- nastronomical, on 05/09/2008, -7/+3so you are the typical brainless lib?
  - stealthalbino, on 05/09/2008, -1/+4What a profound question you've posed.
    And no, not so much.
- dagamer34, on 05/09/2008, -2/+3You can listen to 30 seconds of Bush pander? Dude, we should give you a medal!
- runCMD, on 05/10/2008, -2/+1This is drivel. Take your medicine whether you like it or not.
- Zarchon, on 05/10/2008, -2/+0Kinda reminds you of the power Hitler had over his people huh?
  - BrendanSheehan, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2Well slightly different actually. One is inspiring people to except differences. The other (Hitler) was a mass murder of those who appeared different.
    
    Now do you understand?
    - Kyan, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Except for your replacing accept with except, I'd accept the exception that you so exceptionally excepted. I expect.
- runCMD, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1I hate to make a direct comparison ... but it was fanaticism that allowed Hitler to take his crazy ideas to the world. Charisma can be a good thing - but it can also mis-used by people that know how to do it and have a little sociopath growing inside them. Obama's early words in his autobiography were the first indication I got of his own struggle with the disorder. The first time I heard Obama speak was at a prior democratic convention. He sounded like a pretty good orator - and I said to myself, this guy could move up one day ... maybe even be presidential material. I heard interviews with him - and, his off stage personality was very normal - very down to earth. I liked him even more. Then he ran for president, and came out with this full-on hard core charismatic preacher style double-speak that was contrary to the way he normally speaks. I thought that was an odd change in someone who seemed intelligent enough to carry his message in his normal way of speaking. Then I looked at the crowds listening to him speak. It was an uneasy feeling to see people that emotionally involved in a political speech. I listened to the words .. and they were lightweight. Promising a better tomorrow, work together, change is in us, not the old tired way, etc etc. Pretty vapid from a critical review of content - but it was his delivery that was catching all those people in it's net. I listened to Hillary Clinton speak and heard no such attempt at emotional control of the crowd. I made my choice. I stopped listening to either side speak - because the delivery of the message has become so much more important than the message that it's laughable. I read what the candidates say - and to be honest. The two contenders are not that far apart. But it was Obama that first made me think about how he could incite people to mob. In Texas he stated that "together we can work together to change the world in the way we want it to be" - and that was where I drew my first inference to his delusions of grandeur ... as suffered Hitler. Someone needs to tell the emperor he's wearing no clothes.
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- wigren, on 05/10/2008, -1/+3Stop. Just ***** stop it.
KingGoonie, on 05/09/2008, -19/+4Oh boy, more delusional people... let me break it down for you. Obama WILL NOT be president this time around.

Obama vs. McCain - McCain wins
Hillary vs. McCain - Hillary wins

So for the love of God superdelegates.. DO NOT VOTE OBAMA. HE WILL NOT WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION, That whole Youth vote he supposedly has... yea guess who else was supposed to have a huge surge of youth voters voting for: Al Gore. And just like will happen with Obama, those youth votes didn't show up even after hearing for over a year how they would.
rodgerse, on 05/09/2008, -9/+3Jesus ***** christ...can anyone tell me why digg keeps on linking to the probama far-left wing liberal crap site huffpo???.

Seriously, fox news is bad, but how is huffpo different????.

Can someone please tell me how this guy travelled to the future and is now telling is how obama beat mccain..of course he should, but.. this guy does have a crystall ball or something that says he did, right, that is why he's now explaining it to us, and not just feeding us propaganda crap???.
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ORLY OWL DISAGREES
Mandragon03, on 05/09/2008, -13/+7To much obama crap on digg.
Plantagenet, on 05/09/2008, -9/+4If you like all the pro-Obama posts on Digg.com you'll love Pro-Obama.com---there you can groove on the pro-Obama posts ALL the time!
djericho, on 05/09/2008, -8/+3I can't see Obama beating McCain.

He's going to get Screwed over by the slanderous Right wing media. You're kidding yourself if you don't think Fox/Rush/et al machine is going to have a field day. They're gonna throw more mud @ Obama than Hillary ever could and see what sticks and work that to death like they did Gore and Kerry. At Least Hillary could throw mud with the best of them.

And even IF Obama got elected, who do you think he has to work with? the same old politicians that are in Congress. You guys are kidding yourself. He's not a king, he's president, 1/3 of the government. Show me something REAL he has pushed through congress that has changed America. He said it himself when he got elected, he wouldn't have the experience to become president, but now all of a sudden he has? The media is going to kill him on that.
- jetx29, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2At least as far the who he has to work with question, the answer at least initially is a democrat-controlled congress. As far as good legislation he's enacted as a primary author: the Coburn-Obama Transparency Act to allow the public to see how the government is spending their tax dollars, his work with Feingold to reduce the ability of lobbyists to wine and dine politicians and force them to disclose bundled contributions. He's also put in some important amendments to other legislation, though you'd have to dig a little deeper to find that sort of information.
  
  I'll grant you the point that he may be a bit more vulnerable to republican attack, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to vote my conscience in the first presidential election I've been able to participate where I don't feel like I'm voting for the lesser of two evils. That said, assuming most of the dirt has been brought up by the Clinton campaign, it's all going to be relatively old news by the time general election campaigning really begins. The general atmosphere is that issues like wearing a flag pin won't work quite as well as it might have historically. As far as experience goes, I'm pretty sure no one has the experience needed to be president until they're in the office doing the dirty work. One could point to all these candidates and say that none of them actually have any relevant executive experience at all (they're lawyers and/or legislators, not governors).
  
  I will admit the conservative machine will have me worried, but that'd be the case regardless of who the democratic nominee is, that's just how these things work.
- snafflepaffle, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1I'm sorry, but the ability to sling mud isn't one of my qualifications for whom I want to be president. I'd rather they try to stay above the fray.
- kublerross, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1jeez bush's track record of failure after failure, DUIs, and cocaine didnt seem to hurt him did it? or are you admitting youre just that retarded to have voted for him twice anyways?
Mandragon03, on 05/09/2008, -9/+3Not only do the obama campaigners use digg to plug thier man they use it to cut down hillary. You seriously have to be aware of the slant here. The "machine" is learning to manipulate the internet audience. Be Aware.
- WasabiBomb, on 05/09/2008, -1/+6You know, it might just be there there are a lot of people here who like Obama, and want him to win the Presidency. After all, his main demographic is young tech-savvy liberals, and that definitely describes much of Digg's readership.
  
  Nah, you're right. It must be a conspiracy.
mbauer14, on 05/09/2008, -8/+2"obama is better than x..... obama will win y......... obama did z last week........"
lulz at digg
AkatsukiNoTobi, on 05/09/2008, -3/+22I'm just looking forward to the presidential debates between McCain and Obama. McCain will be completely slaughtered by Obama.
DesignFan, on 05/09/2008, -6/+3I am not sure how this will play out. That reverend thing was a real big mess. It will remain to be seen how damaging it has been to voters. I am sure that McCain will work that angle.
- snafflepaffle, on 05/10/2008, -0/+0Problem is that McCain has his own pastor mess. I think it's not going to be an issue in the GE campaign.
  - JoeVet, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Of course it will. Its how the GOP operates. They can't fight on the issues so they use smear campaigns. In their eyes the ends justify the means. Reverend Wright will be a speaker at the GOP convention if they can get him.
marike, on 05/09/2008, -3/+8I agree with the premise of the Huffington Post piece. Both Clinton and McCain are classic politicians in the true sense of the word. They speak out of both sides of their mouths and say whatever is politically expedient, see the Gas Tax. Obama, on the other hand, seems like a real person, a good leader, and a public servant in the sense that he wants to be a voice for those without a voice. The media and the opponents of the Obama campaign have tried their best to drag his name through the mud with trivial "issues" like who his minister is, who he knows. And instead of resorting to personal attacks, Obama took the high road, and showed not only that he could take a punch, but what a class act he is.

A vote for McCain is a vote for being mired in Iraq for years to come. It is simple: you cannot be against the war and for McCain.

And this notion that Hillary supporters will instead of voting for Obama, vote for McCain is the most insane idea ever, given that on the issues Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama are almost identical. This is either Clinton campaign spin or simple racism. I hope we as a country have moved passed BS like that, as this is probably the most important election in years.
- Berlin45, on 05/10/2008, -1/+0....and AMEN to that
- mdask99, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2When will you ever get over the "mired" in Iraq - the surge is working and a democratic Iraq is an ally in the middle east - something we desperately need with Iran about to have a nuclear weapon - you all can bad mouth Bush all day long but if you're glowing green from an Iranian Nuke you won't be so darn smug.
  - neoquietus, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1I don't care about Iran's nuclear weapons program. If Israel has nuclear weapons (and they do) then Iran won't start anything. Frankly, dealing with Israel's enemies is THEIR problem, not mine.
omegaredIX, on 05/09/2008, -7/+10So is someone please going to start talking about Obama's foreign policy? Anything with Obams name in the headline is shot up to the front page and its getting so ***** old already. So lets please start talking about his foreign policy. What I have read about his policy, its exactly the same as Clintons and McCains. I am going to bury every single piece about Obama until we can get his foreign policy to the front page.
- BrendanSheehan, on 05/10/2008, -3/+2You don't read much then.
  - omegaredIX, on 05/10/2008, -0/+4Actually guy I do maybe you have not read his Renewing Americas leadership or looked at some of his advisor's most namely Zbigniew Brzezinski whose book The Global Chessboard pretty much says it all, hegemony will be maintained by any means necessary. Some people will go, zomg Obama will get us out of Iraq!! But just because he says we will not have a permanent military presence there does not mean we wont be there for 30-90 years. Permanent means forever.
- Shizcake1337, on 05/10/2008, -2/+2I like Ron Pauls noninterventionalist foreign policy the most. There's no need to have the amount of troops in the 130 or so countries that we do. Some troops are necessary, but not the amount that we have all over the place.
mrogi, on 05/10/2008, -8/+5The general election is a different animal from the Democratic primaries. In November, if you think blue collar whites in the South and Midwest are gonna vote for a Negro over a white American war hero; you are ***** delusional.
- drmobutu, on 05/10/2008, -1/+3McCain could die of old age before the election...
- JoeVet, on 05/10/2008, -0/+5Your probably right. There are still many bigots like yourself around that an intelligent man like Obama will have a harder time against even an aged white man that has abandoned all that he stood for in the senate to pander to your type. Well the more you draw attention to your bigotry, the more people will see you for what you are and move away.
- Berlin45, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2... and I also give credit to your fellow Americans for more intelligence than you do.
- Stevo23, on 05/10/2008, -0/+4Those idiots all vote Republican anyway, so it's not like we lose anything by running Obama.
- marike, on 05/10/2008, -0/+0Negro??? What are you living in 1920???
Berlin45, on 05/10/2008, -4/+3I am not an American, but I know the world is watching how the American people will respond to this opportunity to show that they have overcome racism. (and your language needs cleaning up)!
- NelsonR, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Thank you Berlin but in my country America, we have many Conservative racist abominations that are epitomized with the need to conquer and lead the world, examples Limbaugh, Bush, Cheney, O'Reilly, Buchanan's and the list is endless with many an American being a FOLLOWER. Where ever you are from you also have conservative Nationalistic idiots that will drag a country down. The primary question is the quantity of these lost souls that determine a country's future. For now America has many fools that WILL attack Obama to achieve their evil ends of, NO CHANGE.
- 140Suffolk, on 05/10/2008, -2/+1Oh yeah. Let's vote for a semi-socialist never-done-nothing phony empty suit so that YOU can feel we've redeemed ourselves.
Stevo23, on 05/10/2008, -5/+3I think this a big thing. Obama comes across as an actual human being who lives in the real world. Clinton and McCain seem to live in some sort of bizaro-political world where the truth is only valuable as a campaign strategy. Now, maybe it's just because Obama is relatively new to Washington and he'll get corrupted eventually, but I hope he holds on as long as he can.
Papajohn56, on 05/10/2008, -8/+5buried for spam
HiCaP, on 05/10/2008, -8/+6buried for anything to do with obama or huffingtonpost, both losers
BrendanSheehan, on 05/10/2008, -4/+4There's two fundamental differences between Obama and those other two. One, the rest of the world (Europe etc.) actually likes Obama. And two, Obama is genuine.
- monkeyrun, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1In reality, no one out side of America knows much about Obama, specially Asia.
  The rest of the world believes Clinton is a better candidate to fix the economy.
- Barackalypse, on 05/10/2008, -0/+0So basically you concede that on the issues, the thing that really ought to matter, Obama and Clinton are nearly identical. Go read up on it:
  Clinton has voted with a majority of her Democratic colleagues 97.2% of the time during the current Congress, Obama has voted with a majority of his Democratic colleagues 96.7% of the time during the current Congress.
  http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/member ...
  http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/member ...
- 140Suffolk, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Did you know that Europe has been voting out anti-Bush anti-American leaders and voting IN pro-Bush pro-American leaders. At least in Germany, France and Italy. Ironic, isn't it?
bmcnally, on 05/10/2008, -6/+5Since people believe that the reason Obama is always on the front page is due to the fact that everyone here enjoys him, I am going to start burying every single piece of Obama news until this thing gets under control. Honestly, even the Ron Paul stuff wasn't this bad.
- Julik, on 05/10/2008, -0/+0True story... I have no problem with people supporting Obama, or any other candidate, but the only stuff that you see on here now is Pro Obama or Anti Clinton/McCain... It is getting ridiculous...
  None of the articles even have anything to do with where Obama stands on anything.. they are all just about how he is better than everyone else.
  Not to mention that anyone who posts anything that is not pro Obama is burried instantly... regardless of whether or not the post has any good points.
- MScrip, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Burying Obama news so no one can read it? Good job!
  
  The Ron Paul phenomenon was back when there were many potential Democratic candidates. Now, we're down to 2... (1 really). Obama might be the Democratic nominee, so please don't bury everything you read about him.
mdask99, on 05/10/2008, -8/+4Are you kidding me? A leftist, liberal, socialist like Arianna Huff (and huff and huff) ington thinks Obama will beat McCain - no, really? What a surprise. Let's count the ways in which Obama is qualified to be president - 1 - he beat Hillary Clinton in the DNC Primary, 2 - he's a freshman senator from Illinois (Illinois, people), 3 - ???????? He's the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate and his wife is the most angry woman I have ever heard (don't you know we all live in FEAR - of what, exactly?) - he might do as well as McGovern did. Once people get behind his very involved, complex message of HOPE (trust me) - his weaknesses will be most evident. I'm not a huge McCain fan but he won't bail on Iraq (which we are now winning - you'll notice the lack of reporting in the media which is a sure indicator of success), raise our taxes (like 33 cents of every dollar I make isn't enough) or make me pay for the health care of drug addicts and other assorted LOSERS like Obama thinks we want - the US Healthcare system rocks - just try getting a heart transplant in Europe, Canada or Cuba (hello Michael Moore). What's broke is the way things are paid for - not the system itself. Do away with the grotesque amounts and insurance wrangling over the actual cost and we'll be just fine.
- 140Suffolk, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1Spot on! And didn't Barack sponsor some bill that would take billions of our tax money and give it to...the UN? To relieve "world poverty"? Oh that'll work.
  And did you know that in Illinois Barack refused to vote for a bill called the Infants Born Alive Protection Act? If a late term abortion fails and the baby is accidentally born alive, what they had been doing is putting that baby in a broom closet alone to die. The Infants Born Alive Protection Act was to prevent that. Barack refused to vote for it. When he left Illinois it passed straight off.
  Personally, I think America would elect a black Ronald Reagon. Or a genuine black JFK. But not some phony never-did-nothing semi-socialist empty suit fake fraud like Barack Don't-Call-Me-Hussein Obama.
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katorga, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1I'm not a huge McCain fan, but he is nothing if not "authentic". And he is tougher than most. I'm for Obama, but I think Wright and HRC's continuing negative campaign has sunk him. I have complete faith in the DNC to screw up a sure thing.
NelsonR, on 05/10/2008, -2/+0A vote for McCain is a vote for Patriotism, nationalism while telling the world we are superior in our decisions, in other words we are truly the best of the best.
Got to love a conservative minded soul, pious while being omnipotent and leading America to prosperity as Bush is leading us Nationalistic Americans today.
McCain is truly the leader to continue America's continued rise to power while policing the world. Oh, the world's nation have such happy thoughts about America as it is today???????
Barackalypse, on 05/10/2008, -4/+0Obama beats Clinton for the same reason Bush got re-elected, Democratic voters, like most other voters, are ***** retarded.
zeiben, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1All that, and it never hurts to have a proper campaign strategy tailored to the actual rules, instead of forking millions over to a sheister with no scruples and no plan.
nedperfel, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Digg should just have a big perma link to huffingtonpost since that's what half the material is anyway
Barbarino, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1I can't believe anyone would read the Huff post... Nothing to do with Obama, but there is zero objectivity going on over there.
nibkey, on 05/10/2008, -0/+0Ha ha, you pro-gun lobby would be kinda cute in a curmudgeonly way if you weren't so ***** disturbing and influential... Still, keeps the King of England out of your face, and that's what's important.
Genesii, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1Even though I'm personally sick to death of the bombardment of pro-obama / anti-clinton stories on the main page, this was surprisingly worth reading.
jerrycurley, on 05/10/2008, -2/+2The funny thing is...if Obama DOES win, then for hte next 4 years, starting in mid-January, that little ***** Arianna Huffington will be bitching about how bad he is.
twrife, on 05/10/2008, -1/+2McCain probably would have been a great president in 2000, but today he just seems...senile.
enzomedici, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1*****, I could beat McCain. If you can't beat this guy, you are a total loser. McCain is practically a democrat on most issues except the war. He's for amnesty for illegals and all kinds of other ***** that Republicans hate. How he got to be the nominee for Republicans is beyond belief. McCain will lose in a LANDSLIDE.
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