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White House Responds To Scott McClellan's Accusations
huffingtonpost.com — Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan writes in a new memoir that President Bush relied on an aggressive "political propaganda campaign" instead of the truth to sell the Iraq war, and that the decision to invade pushed Bush's presidency "terribly off course.'
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- edmondburke, on 05/28/2008, -16/+27Well, well - we are getting closer and closer to the truth - the First American President, and Presidenial Administration, of War Criminals! Now its time action was taken and the guilty made to pay.
I rest my long enduring case.- paigeinphilly, on 05/29/2008, -4/+8Wait...now they are trying to sell that same load of horse hooky about IRAN...along with Faux news of course.
umm humm...
Obama/Webb 08 - gofalcons, on 05/29/2008, -10/+6Ron Paul 08
- Hangly, on 05/29/2008, -0/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout
A limited hangout is a form of deception, misdirection, or coverup often associated with intelligence agencies involving a release or "mea culpa" type of confession of only part of a set of previously hidden sensitive information, that establishes credibility for the one releasing the information who by the very act of confession appears to be "coming clean" and acting with integrity; but in actuality by withholding key facts is protecting a deeper crime and those who could be exposed if the whole truth came out. In effect, if an array of offenses or misdeeds is suspected, this confession admits to a lesser offense while covering up the greater ones.- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -1/+4Yea, I put my hand in the cookie jar. But only because I was trying to shoo away a fly. I didn't want the fly to land on the cookies. I didn't steal a cookie, I was simply trying to protect the cookies from being contaminated by a fly landing on them.
See? I'm not a thief, I'm actually a hero! - PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -1/+4I only had my hand in the cookie jar because I saw a fly, and I wanted to shoo him away. I wasn't trying to steal the cookie, I just didn't want the fly to contaminate the cookies.
I'm actually a hero, not a villain.- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -1/+7wierd, I didn't see my first comment, so I reposted another one, then it appeared.
Oh well. redundancy is good sometimes. Sometimes redundancy is good.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -1/+7wierd, I didn't see my first comment, so I reposted another one, then it appeared.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -1/+4Yea, I put my hand in the cookie jar. But only because I was trying to shoo away a fly. I didn't want the fly to land on the cookies. I didn't steal a cookie, I was simply trying to protect the cookies from being contaminated by a fly landing on them.
- PerfectV, on 05/29/2008, -2/+4 Paul/Kucinich 2008. The truth party's candidates.
- NatashaCall, on 05/30/2008, -0/+1Don't kid yourself about them being the first in the history of an administration of corruption or criminals. Far from it!
- paigeinphilly, on 05/29/2008, -4/+8Wait...now they are trying to sell that same load of horse hooky about IRAN...along with Faux news of course.
- peticsu, on 05/28/2008, -8/+27oooh snap...
lets have a DOUCHEOFF!- romistrub, on 05/29/2008, -4/+4Whitehouse vs. Scot McClellan?
Winner: John Edward. - diggrnumber1, on 05/29/2008, -5/+5i don't think you can call mcclellan a douche anymore.
- willskillz, on 05/29/2008, -2/+7no. McClellan's definitely a douche. He had plenty of time to come out and now he does it conveniently at the same time he launches his book. That's total doucheyness.
- bugsy187, on 05/29/2008, -2/+3It sounds like your beef is with capitalism.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -0/+3If the Germans were not defeated in WWII, you would have seen the same trickle of truth coming out over the years.
I'm sure he's trying to make money. We all are. But If he is doing so while actually telling some amount of truth, that only means that his motives are not 100% about making money.
He could very easily sell a book that doesn't expose these inconvenient truths about his former boss. After all, he has now alienated himself from all the other people who still blindly benefit from Bush. He has surely lost support, credibility and job opportunities amongst that crowd. - PhilLesh69, on 05/30/2008, -0/+1bugsy187, to find fault in blind, unthinking pursuit of profit is not the same as having a problem with capitalism.
I know that we had the concept of "capitalism vs. communism" beaten into our heads for 50+ years, but that doesn't mean that this country is fundamentally a capitalist country.
Our founding principles do not necessarily make us a capitalist country. Capitalism appeared as a theory about the same time that Communism and Socialism and National Socialism appeared, in the early part of the 1900's. Nobody ever voted for Capitalism to be our organizing principle.
We are a Democratic nation, not a capitalist nation. Capitalism, like all other isms, are ideologies.
- willskillz, on 05/29/2008, -2/+7no. McClellan's definitely a douche. He had plenty of time to come out and now he does it conveniently at the same time he launches his book. That's total doucheyness.
- romistrub, on 05/29/2008, -4/+4Whitehouse vs. Scot McClellan?
- DeskFlyer, on 05/28/2008, -10/+90Said current White House press secretary Dana Perino, "We are puzzled. It is sad. This is not the Scott we knew."
That's because he's no longer a lying douche like you are right now.- pintomp3, on 05/29/2008, -2/+8that's the best talking point they could come up with?
- buckrogers1965, on 05/29/2008, -2/+9I can't wait for the Tony Snow and Dana Perino books.
- mrsteveman1, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2Snow came from Fox news, i don't think he disagrees with much the white house does
- ConAmoreEFuoco, on 05/29/2008, -0/+9And Dana Perino doesn't know what the Cuban Missile Crisis was. So I wouldn't put too much weight on what or who she knows or doesn't know.
- Arkonnan, on 05/29/2008, -0/+4> That's because he's no longer a lying douche like you are right now.
No, he's an opportunistic douche who is trying to sell a book. Where was his inflated sense of moral superiority when we were being lied to in the first place?
- grlykool, on 05/28/2008, -3/+15The MSM knew too. I blame the war and the housing crisis on the MSM.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -1/+1That is ridiculous scapegoating.
The housing crisis is the fault of the mainstream media? Oh Jesus. That is disingenuous crap.
The housing crisis is the result of a lot of factors. Housing prices rose at a historic rate, driving more people to buy homes, and as more people bought homes, it created a market that greedy people sought to exploit, and they created a speculative market that motivated mortgage brokers to offer loans to people of lesser and lesser qualifications, and then the economy went a little south, and more and more people could no longer meet their mortgage obligations, especially the ones who ignorantly signed adjustable rate mortgages not considering (or not knowing) that they might not be able to refinance before their ARM reset to a higher rate that put their payments beyond their ability to make the payments.
It wasn't the media. The media didn't create this scenario. They didn't report fallacious information in order to spawn the sell-off, they didn't convince people that there was a bubble.
As for the MSM knowing about the Iraq war being a mistake from the start, well, yes, they did. And they tried to report this stuff to a public that was so scared and witless because of 9/11 that nobody listened. Fox News, of course, tried to shout all this information down, but the rest of the media was responsibly reporting things like Scott Ritter, a weapons inspector, saying that Iraq had complied with every UN mandate on inspections. They reported that the Czech intelligence claims of a meeting between Iraqi Intelligence and a planner of 9/11 was a case of mistaken identity. The media did inform the people who were capable of listening. If you didn't hear them, that only means you were so scared of the terrorists that you did not want to believe the voices of reason and were only seeking solace from your world of fear in a big war that will kill those evil brown people.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -1/+1That is ridiculous scapegoating.
- SheilaNoya, on 05/28/2008, -10/+37McClellan's book has become the #1 Best Seller on Amazon.com in less than 24 hours.
America LOVES a scandal, especially when it involves the most hated president we've ever had.
I wonder if Bush will put a copy of this book in his Presidential Library?- AndrewDB, on 05/29/2008, -3/+10Along side the Clifford: The Big Red Dog and Spot books?..
I wouldn't bet on it.- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1I'm sure the "My Pet Goat" book will make it into his library.
It defines his presidency.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1I'm sure the "My Pet Goat" book will make it into his library.
- tmyprod, on 05/29/2008, -3/+5He's not going to have a Presidential library, He's going to has a Presidential House of Hot wings. His legacy and country will be in ruins but he will sell some damn fine wings, and in the end isn't that all that really matters?
- AndrewDB, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2No, what really matters in the end is if you get a free Honey Mustard or Ranch sauce with those aforementioned wings.
- gofalcons, on 05/29/2008, -2/+4I'd call this a little more than a scandal.
- PeterODactyl, on 05/29/2008, -0/+4Don't forget My Pet Goat.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -0/+3Damn, I made the same comment before I saw your's.
There are a few people who pay attention to, and remember, history :)
- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -0/+3Damn, I made the same comment before I saw your's.
- AndrewDB, on 05/29/2008, -3/+10Along side the Clifford: The Big Red Dog and Spot books?..
- chrisbaskind, on 05/29/2008, -5/+26Congress should now subpoena McClellan to make the "propaganda" statement under oath.
- gypsi, on 05/29/2008, -5/+30sending perino out to stooge on this is absolutely hilarious. it illustrates everything mclellan is saying perfectly.
- habhi, on 05/29/2008, -17/+8Did you know rapper/producer Jermaine Dupri has a blog on huffingtonpost.com? That should tell you how much I value huffingtonpost.com.
- pintomp3, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1did you know soy makes kids gay?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI ...
- pintomp3, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1did you know soy makes kids gay?
- Clugenheim, on 05/29/2008, -12/+4This man will surely be forced before the World Court after his presidency. If not, it will surprise me.
- RajAtWork, on 05/29/2008, -4/+8What the hell is World Court and why _any_ American should be forced before it?
- Clugenheim, on 05/29/2008, -2/+5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Court
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Crimina ...
Although I just realized the US hasn't joined. :x- RRJackson, on 05/29/2008, -1/+1You're a little late to the party. There have been countless fights and accusations about our refusal to join since the subject first came up.
- Clugenheim, on 05/29/2008, -2/+5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Court
- Swarms, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2Prepare to be surprised.
- RajAtWork, on 05/29/2008, -4/+8What the hell is World Court and why _any_ American should be forced before it?
- Pillage, on 05/29/2008, -9/+16Could we get an AP article detailing the White House's response? You know, something written by a real journalist.
- synaesthesia, on 05/29/2008, -4/+2Because its not plastered all over the freaking internet.
- Clugenheim, on 05/29/2008, -6/+1http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=60a_1212002817
- headzoo, on 05/29/2008, -3/+7So the lies told by the White House would some how differ if they were repeated by a reputable news source?
- fivex, on 05/29/2008, -4/+2http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si ...
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5guUtnrUWgvNv66l ...
now in Bloomberg and AP flavours - Pillage, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1I like my white house lies without huffpo lies.
- fivex, on 05/29/2008, -4/+2http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si ...
- magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -1/+6How about el Washington Post?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - sliksta, on 05/29/2008, -1/+7If you want something by a real journalist, I don't know if the AP is the place to look.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/23/bush.iraq/i ...
Also, I am currently watching CNN, where Anderson Cooper is discussing this topic.
Real journalist? Are you a corporate apologist fool?
Anyone who reports something is the same as anyone else.
"real journalists" are not magically able to report what you believe. Besides, being a "real journalist" simply means that you are getting a paycheck from a media outlet as an employee, or a stringer or a freelancer. A lot of the bloggers are unemployed journalists. Many of them are respected stringers, or journalists who got laid off in 2001.
I can only assume that your definition of "real journalist" is a journalist who screams loudly everything you believe.- Pillage, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1my definition is: an impartial source, not trying to promote their agenda.
So I'll watch AC since he is probably the closest thing CNN gets to impartial.
But you assumed I liked loud talking heads and you made an ASS out of U and ME.- PhilLesh69, on 05/30/2008, -0/+1There are no impartial sources. Every living human has a bias one way or the other.
Some try harder than others to keep their own biases out of their reporting, but nobody can completely eliminate their own biases from what they report. It is built into their language, their way of thinking, their perspective on events, their life experiences, who they know and who they talk to, etc.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/30/2008, -0/+1There are no impartial sources. Every living human has a bias one way or the other.
- Pillage, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1my definition is: an impartial source, not trying to promote their agenda.
- diceau, on 05/29/2008, -4/+7The one thing Bush can do properly is pretend he's done nothing wrong.
- totorototoro, on 05/29/2008, -6/+24Notice how they all focus on the exact same talking points? "This is not the Scott I knew and worked with" "Why didn't Scott come out with his concerns at the time?" "Scott never brought this up while he was here"
All written by Rove and distributed this morning by email no doubt (which he promptly accidentally deleted ) :p- kahunaburger, on 05/29/2008, -2/+4You forgot "we're puzzled"...
- totorototoro, on 05/29/2008, -2/+1good call :p Plus, "he wasn't part of the inner circle anyways, so he doesn't really know anything"
- chaserm, on 05/29/2008, -1/+4Right on! What a bunch of STUPID Americans to vote these ***** in twice. Like most sane people is this country didn't know it was all lies anyway.
- kahunaburger, on 05/29/2008, -2/+4You forgot "we're puzzled"...
- Inflammo, on 05/29/2008, -7/+10BREAKING: The Bush Administration still lies
- 1dog, on 05/29/2008, -5/+10Obviously the timing is weak. This guy is only interested in getting paid. Like everyone else in Washington he wants to get paid.Of course he can't be a lobbyist so he has to write this book.
- jp12380, on 05/29/2008, -4/+2Hmmm, one way to look at it.
- loggia, on 05/29/2008, -2/+3Anyone who writes a Bush criticizing Bush = Just Wants Money
Therefore, there are no valid books criticizing Bush. - magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -2/+3That's a good observation. If he really wanted justice, he would've held a press conference and/or simply piled all his knowledge on all of the major news outlets.
Although to be fair, doing that would've probably caused Rove and his allies to hinder McClellan in various ways (employment, etc.). - sliksta, on 05/29/2008, -3/+2And he should still be prosecuted for his part in the crimes of the executive branch. But maybe give him immunity for testifying against bush.
- XternalHD, on 05/29/2008, -2/+5I could of sworn I heard that guy say on CNN that Bush is a "master mind manipulator".
- yngtimmy, on 05/29/2008, -10/+9I find it funny he was the press secretary for 2 years, never said anything about this, UNTIL he come out with his book deal. OH! Then the "truth" will come out. 1st I don't believe him. 2nd if he is telling the truth he is worse than a liar, he is immoral slime to wait until he wrote his book to finally tell his story...meanwhile Americans are dying.
- jp12380, on 05/29/2008, -3/+4Yes he would be worse then Bush if what he says is true.......
Let me guess you are pro Bush. - loggia, on 05/29/2008, -4/+7Uh... let's see.
If he did quit during the administration and speak out, you would call him a traitor.
If he did as he is doing now, you call him a liar.
If he kept his mouth shut... you'd call him loyal.
Brilliant. - yngtimmy, on 05/29/2008, -1/+2you are both wrong. 1st I dont call people traitors unless they sell secrets to China or something. 2nd I am not Pro bush, he has failed me on the border, budget, etc. I am however pro THINKING and not just latching onto anything that comes out about how bad he is. If I knew something was going on next door where people were being killed for no reason, and didnt say anything until later when I wrote my book and got rich off it, I would be NO better than the person committing the crimes, in fact I would be worse.
But no I dont believe him. I think its just another person who knows W isn't popular and is jumping on the bandwagon
- jp12380, on 05/29/2008, -3/+4Yes he would be worse then Bush if what he says is true.......
- SaladCactusKing, on 05/29/2008, -6/+10God, Perino is such a *****.
- gofalcons, on 05/29/2008, -1/+2The only reason the picked her is because she's hot. They know people will throw her softball questions because of that. Hell, i have trouble paying attention to what she's saying half of the time.
- diggrnumber1, on 05/29/2008, -1/+1hot though (in the sense of the killer robot from Terminator 3).
- SaladCactusKing, on 05/29/2008, -1/+2I still kinda like her though :-/
- AaronS2000, on 05/29/2008, -3/+3Is this another one of those "off with their heads" charades that we Americans love to reenact? Ladies and Gentlemen, get out your wrist slappers!
- topgigmedia, on 05/29/2008, -6/+7Give me a break! He chose to take the huge book advance! This is not about "doing the right thing".
So the fact that he is a "born-again truth teller" excuses the fact that he spent years grossly misleading the press and public on atrocities such as The lead up to Iraq Spin, Abu Ghraib torture, The outing of Varlerie Plame, the great Katrina horror and government squandering and cover-up, no-bid government contracts given to "friendly firms (Halliburton), Walter Reed, The illegal firing of US attorneys, Iran and saber rattling, North Korea, Civilian contractors, warrantless NSA wiretapping, K Street Lobbyists, Cheney's Energy Policy, Global warming: denials, big budget deficits, Healthcare (in general)... YOU GET THE POINT.
This man is leach on the Flag just as his counterparts are in the administration.- inhaler, on 05/29/2008, -2/+4It just goes to show there is no honor among thieves...
- loggia, on 05/29/2008, -2/+10Dana Perino: The reason I look like I've aged about 10 years in the last two is because
(a) telling the truth and being open with the American people is stressful and unhealthy
(b) lying and concealing things from the American people is stressful and unhealthy
Hmm, I wonder which one it is? - Malarie, on 05/29/2008, -4/+5America, the land of the greed.
- radiofrequency, on 05/29/2008, -14/+6Libs are funny. When McClellan worked for the White House he was a liar but when he wrote a book full of wild allegations about Bush he's a truthful figure.
- loggia, on 05/29/2008, -4/+6Conservatives are funny. When McClellan worked for the White House he told the truth but when he wrote a book criticizing Bush he's a liar.
- radiofrequency, on 05/29/2008, -6/+3How about we split it down the middle and agree he'll say anything for a buck?
- bugsy187, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1Saying that Bush spread war propaganda just confirms what we know. It's just interesting to hear it from the inside.
It's also interesting how you're trying to frame the debate.
- bugsy187, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1Saying that Bush spread war propaganda just confirms what we know. It's just interesting to hear it from the inside.
- loggia, on 05/29/2008, -4/+3No, thanks. I imagine anyone who writes a book whose views you don't like is trying to make a buck. And authors you approve of donate their profits to charity? The man worked for Bush for more than 15 years. He doesn't need to answer to anyone or such cheap shots.
- radiofrequency, on 05/29/2008, -2/+4I bet you'll call McClellan a liar again when he recants everything in sworn testimony before congress.
- magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1There's no "again" when you speak both sides of a lie.
- radiofrequency, on 05/29/2008, -6/+3How about we split it down the middle and agree he'll say anything for a buck?
- tschau, on 05/29/2008, -2/+2When he worked for the White House he was a mouthpiece.
- obliviousfool, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1Wild allegations? No. He's now saying what everyone on Earth (but you, apparently) figured was going on at the time.
- radiofrequency, on 05/29/2008, -1/+1Everyone but me, the intelligence community and the overwhelming majority of democrats who crossed party lines to authorize the war.
Tin foil hat, much?- bugsy187, on 05/29/2008, -1/+2Please drop the cliche "tin foil hat" jab.
The CIA thought it would be several years before any nukes could have been produced and that an invasion was likely to increase the distribution of any WMDs (because the country is destabilized). Of course many Democrats voted for the war. There was a fanatical patriotic fervor stirred up at the time by the neocons and it was practically political suicide to oppose the war. Even though Bush and the neocons said they wouldn't use 9/11 to demonize political opponents, their "with us or against us" rhetoric and action proved the opposite. - obliviousfool, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1All I'm saying is that calling Bush "less than candid" in the lead up to the war is not a "wild accusation!"
If you'd say that Bush always tells the truth, 100% of the time, now *that* would be a wild accusation!
Why would I want your tin foil hat?
- bugsy187, on 05/29/2008, -1/+2Please drop the cliche "tin foil hat" jab.
- radiofrequency, on 05/29/2008, -1/+1Everyone but me, the intelligence community and the overwhelming majority of democrats who crossed party lines to authorize the war.
- loggia, on 05/29/2008, -4/+6Conservatives are funny. When McClellan worked for the White House he told the truth but when he wrote a book criticizing Bush he's a liar.
- coffee200am, on 05/29/2008, -12/+5The company that published Scott McClellan’s new Bush-bashing book is Public Affairs Books, and their Editor at Large is a guy named Peter Osnos:
About The Century Foundation.
http://www.tcf.org/about.asp?pgid=staff&staffid=42
The owner of Public Affairs Books is a company called Perseus Book Group. Here’s their ownership tree:
Perseus Books Home.
http://www.perseusbooksgroup.com/perseus/about_us. ...
The firm is owned by Perseus Funds Group, (holding company Perseus LLC) a capital management firm that grew from about $20 million in 1995 to over $2 billion now. Big infusions of cash seemed to help it grow exponentially and it closed funds almost as fast as it opened them. The board has tons of supporters from the Clinton and Carter Administrations with credentials that almost put Osnos’ to shame as far as far left causes go. Their website is here:
PERSEUS - merchant bank and private equity fund management.
http://www.perseusllc.com/intro.htm
Go to the New York Department of State web site:
http://appsext8.dos.state.ny.us/corp_public/corpse ...
and enter “Perseus” in the “Business Organization” search.- rpetty, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1Follow the money!
- loggia, on 05/29/2008, -2/+4It is so wonderful that bestselling conservative authors donate all their profits to charity, poor children and injured puppies. THAT'S how we know THEIR books are the truth.
- Berkana, on 05/29/2008, -4/+10Off course? The Bush administration had determined to invade Iraq from the very beginning of the administration:
Paul O'Neil exposed that Bush planned the invasion of Iraq starting 10 days after the inauguration, with oil maps and lists of foreign suitors for Iraqi oil field contracts in consideration:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ky2t_tDsZrk- McShr3dd3r, on 05/29/2008, -1/+2excellent video!!
- rpetty, on 05/29/2008, -4/+1So why haven't we stolen the oil??? If the US only wanted the oil, we would have cut a deal with Sadam and left him alone (like France our "ally" did). Don't be such a thoughtless crank.
Is anyone else getting tired of those that can't think for themselves and believe America = EVIL. Grow up.- magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1You do realize that Saddam would never have agreed to such a deal because we slipped Iran a bunch of weapons during Reagan's tenure? Why else do you think we went up against Russian-manufactured weapons in Desert Storm? France hadn't made such a diplomatic blunder with Iraq, so they were able to sell him Mirage jets for oil deals.
- Berkana, on 05/31/2008, -0/+1We are in the process of stealing the oil; the Iraqi oil laws were drafted with extremely unfair terms, pretty much giving them the shaft while the oil companies take the oil for their profit. The oil is not on the market yet because of the sabotage and the violence going on there.
As for cutting a deal with Sadam, you're being too rational; we're talking about George Bush here.
- magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -0/+3Required viewing: Frontline, "Cheney's Law"; "The Dark Side"
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/cheney/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/v ...
Required listening: This American Life, "The Audacity of Government"
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx ...
Cheney has always wanted to have the power of a dictator without the consequences of being an obvious target. Let's eliminate the possibility of the latter.
- loggia, on 05/29/2008, -7/+15For those conservatives who are vilifying McClellan, let's see if this tracks:
If he did quit during the administration and speak out, you would call him a TRAITOR...
If he did as he is doing now, you call him a LIAR...
If he kept his mouth shut... you'd call him LOYAL.
Brilliant. - snotrokit, on 05/29/2008, -8/+8Truth hurts, doesn't it bitch?
- Omodis420, on 05/29/2008, -4/+4Lets all hope that this is the beginning of the end for fear mongering, deceptive politics. We have had to sit and watch for years as they lied time and time again. Just a few more months.
Obama will win!!! - loggia, on 05/29/2008, -5/+4No, thanks. Only people whose views you don't want to hear will say anything for a buck. No doubt the authors you approve of donate their profits to charity, right?
The man worked for Bush for more than 15 years and he's suddenly suspect because he criticizes Bush? - yosserhughes, on 05/29/2008, -5/+7Commenting on McClellan's book a member of the Bush WH team, (who wishes to remain anonymous), stated; "We knew things were going bad when we found child pornography on Scott's computer. That was after the Crack Cocaine and Gay hooker incident, and before his ties to Al Queda were uncovered. We could have forgiven him these peccadillo's, but selling WMD to Iran really was going too far, and finally, after sexually molesting Jenna and her dog in her bedroom; well that was just the last straw. Oh, and did I mention the time we found him conducting a Satanic ritual in the Oval office; one more minute and the baby would have been skewered and Beelzebub himself would have risen to start his 1000 year reign of Hell on Earth. But please don't quote me"
- jonpotz, on 05/29/2008, -1/+1LOL...I found that rather amusing.
- 1310nm, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1Funny but true, they will try to discredit him as they did Richard Clarke. I believe the real insider accounts of happenings within the White House more than I do those who still get a paycheck made of tax money.
- toddcat, on 05/29/2008, -5/+7Funny....apparently 90% of the world is insane and only the Bush administration and its allies (until they see the light) are sane. Dana Perino says this is not the Scott she knew. Let's wait until she has a book to sell or if she has any second thoughts.
- Zlorp, on 05/29/2008, -3/+4Regardless of how true any of it is, how convenient for his conscience to finally catch up with him AFTER he had a real chance to do anything about it.
***** that guy - buckrogers1965, on 05/29/2008, -5/+3But this next war against Iran is completely necessary.
Honest. No lie. Really. Would we lie to you... again? You can trust us. Cross my heart and hope that someone else dies.
Yeah yeah, we lied about the Iraq war but we really believed it was true at the time.
Oh. McClellan talked? so you know that we knew it was a lie then too and were just lying to you about not knowing it was a lie?
OK OK, you caught us in a double lie. But we would never ever ever triple lie to you. Really.
This time you can really really really believe that we need to attack Iran. - tschau, on 05/29/2008, -3/+5It was funny today to watch the headlines on CNN.com. They didn't focus around McClellan's accusations at all - they were more along the lines of "White House Puzzled By Ex-Spokesman's Book." Oh, the spin.
- obliviousfool, on 05/29/2008, -2/+3These cobbled together talking points and dodges do not equal a response.
- magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2It's called damage control; someone in the VP's office tossed Perino and others what to say because they've essentially been brainwashed along with Bush. Once Cheney has a game plan down (including how to punish McClellan), you'll see some whoppers that will make Clinton's "sniper fire" bit sound plausible.
- Ruger11mcrdpi, on 05/29/2008, -4/+4"F*CK IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!"
- vexingmodstwo, on 05/29/2008, -1/+3FTA: And McClellan issues this disclaimer about Bush: "I do not believe he or his White House deliberately or consciously sought to deceive the American people."
Ummm... what exactly are you guys having a circle jerk about? - RRJackson, on 05/29/2008, -14/+3Good lord, nothing is as repugnant as a White House staffer looking to make a buck by denigrating his president in print. Everyone knew the reasons given to the public for Iraq weren't the reasons we went to war, but you can't go on television and tell America that you're invading a country because you like the real estate. It's a shame people are buying McClellan's book. There should be a law that prevents White House staffers from profiting from slanderous pieces about their administrations. Like the law in New York that prevents prisoners from seeing a profit from tell-all books and movie deals. This is even worse than Obama and Clinton claiming that they're concerned with ending the war when they both know we're never leaving Iraq.
- papipablo, on 05/29/2008, -2/+1I guess now that the primaries are essentially over you no longer need to pretend you're a Democrat.
- RRJackson, on 05/29/2008, -1/+1Oh, I'm a lifelong Democrat, but I'm also an American. We've got a generation of maggots who'll jump at any opportunity to make a buck and it doesn't matter what they do to their country in the process. Every presidency by candidates from both sides of the aisle could have been criticized in these kinds of ways. It's not acceptable no matter which party is being undermined. The end result is that the United States is undermined.
- papipablo, on 05/29/2008, -2/+1I guess now that the primaries are essentially over you no longer need to pretend you're a Democrat.
- zestyhedgehog, on 05/29/2008, -3/+5"Hillary Rodham Clinton referred to the book and its author while campaigning Wednesday in Rapid City, S.D., saying, "In this book this young man essentially apologizes for having been part of misleading America for three years."
At least he had guts to apologize. Where is your apology, Hillary?- magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1I'm sure everyone knows that the Clintons are masters of apologizing for being caught, not for the offense. Still, let's keep the discussion a bit more on-topic.
- Obliviate, on 05/29/2008, -2/+7Don't you in the US have something called being an "accessory"? In Australia, if someone knows about a crime and doesn't come forth, it's called being an accessory to the crime before OR after the fact.
But then again, you Americans invented the term "conflict of interest" and never seem to enforce that one either.- magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1Many elected and appointed officials-- including law enforcement-- only make a show of following the rules until they're in office. Power and money have strange ways of destroying one's conscience.
- FrankHope, on 05/29/2008, -0/+11Scott McClellan's father is Barr McClellan. He wrote a book titled "Blood, Money and Power; How LBJ Killed JFK". Read it. He had inside information as a member of the Clark law firm.
http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Money-Power-L-B-J-Kill ...
My guess is Scott's father convinced him to tell the truth to the American public.- vexingmodstwo, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2You're funny.
- Groovydoo, on 05/29/2008, -1/+5This could put Bush in jail; screw impeachment. He will be a citizen in six-an-a-half-months and it won't take an act of congress to have him arrested. Watch him get pulled before congress.
- ebonn101, on 05/29/2008, -5/+3There needs to be a new option to BURY articles. Right below Ok, this is lame. It should say "Huffington Post"
- magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -1/+5If the two are essentially equivalent, why not use the one provided?
If complaining to the digg admins didn't work, what's the point in bitching about it here?
- magus_melchior, on 05/29/2008, -1/+5If the two are essentially equivalent, why not use the one provided?
- Rovian, on 05/29/2008, -3/+8Discrediting the messenger and pooh-poohing the message has been used so many times the shtick has gotten old.
Saying Scotty is disgruntled or did it for the money is predictable and shallow. In all likelihood he did receive a very attractive severance package, and could have continued to tow the line. He could have written a book titled Why Bush is the best president ever, and it would have been gobbled up by delusional right-tards from coast to coast. Dick Cheney would have purchased the first ten truckloads just to get it on the best sellers list. He could have had speaking engagements and the lucrative fees that go with them, and all he had to do was continue jacking off every drooling right-tard in the echo chamber from the Discovery Institute to the Club for Growth.
That someone on that wrong side of the aisle actually develops a conscious is so remarkable it causes instant head explosions and a seething rage among a thick headed following that genuinely doesn't get it. Willful ignorance has no capacity for self doubt.
The jig is up right-tards, the first step is admitting you have a problem. Step 9 is making apologies to everyone you've hurt. Get yourselves checked into a clinic you sick f@cks. - IronDonut, on 05/29/2008, -3/+0And speaking of a lieing douchebags. What do you think about the doability of press secretary Dana Perino?
I say she is completely do-able but it would have to be a grudge-*****. Because she is hot but deserves punishment.- daytripper46, on 05/29/2008, -1/+0I totally agree, Dana Perino is totally do-able and would love to ***** her in the mouth than up the ass. Scott is a freaking piece of *****. He decides to write a book for the almighty dollar now. Why didn't he say something 4 years ago? He was scared of losing his job.
- phrenzy, on 05/29/2008, -0/+0Don't forget back to the mouth again. You should ALWAYS go ass-to-mouth with her.
- daytripper46, on 05/29/2008, -1/+0I totally agree, Dana Perino is totally do-able and would love to ***** her in the mouth than up the ass. Scott is a freaking piece of *****. He decides to write a book for the almighty dollar now. Why didn't he say something 4 years ago? He was scared of losing his job.
- whodat51773, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2In any situation under any circumstance in hindsight things could have been done differently! Astounding!
This book says nothing. Save that contiuous improvement is an ongoing process. - BlacklabelSAR, on 05/29/2008, -0/+4I hope that everyone noticed that since McClellan criticized the the media in his book, how most of the MSM is joining in the dicreditation of McLellan?
- nydwarf, on 05/30/2008, -0/+2I think the White House's response was "well duh!"
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