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What Would Make Me Vote for McCain?
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- kylechristopher, on 10/09/2008, -2/+8I am not a fan of McCain purely because he will have an administration exactly like our current one. And theres no reason why they should pass these BILLION dollar bills....pass a bill to stop outsourcing jobs to third world countries and India, and pass one to stop companies from laying people off to cut costs, or limit the amount of things outsourced so it keeps jobs here. When you lay people off you are taking more money right there out of circulation because people have no income, they are more conscience about money so they spend less because they are unemployed and have to pay bills to survive instead of spending it shopping or doing leisurely things...then it leads to taking out loans and running up their credit, and then they default on those because they cant pay back, and soon get evicted because the economy is horrible and cant get another job to support them or their families because every company is downsizing. Use your heads guys, its a chain reaction. No bill will fix that...you need to fix unemployment and get more people working with a stead income to fix this....and I know these ideas for bills will never get pass or considered but before you comment how this is a stupid idea and I'm crazy, just sit there a second and think about it.
- Blinker1315, on 10/09/2008, -0/+4I can sympathize with a lot of what you're saying, but how can you pass a bill to prohibit companies from laying off people? In economic distress, small companies are going to go out of business, and much more quickly if they're forced by the government to keep the same number of employees.
- kylechristopher, on 10/09/2008, -0/+5Well of course that will never happen for that fact, but a billion dollar bill will not fix it either...it will raise inflation so high our dollar will be worth virtually nothing. Its not about fixing the credit crisis, its about fixing unemployment, the more people working then the more economic prosperity there will be because buying and selling with return to normal. Everyone is freaked out about losing their jobs or has lost their job so every penny they own they dont want to let go unless it is for food or bills.
- nick1971, on 10/10/2008, -0/+7Blinkert1315, you can do this and its called Europe. There are plus points and minus points to this concept.
What you gain is socio-cohesion. The whole country is behind you, you have unions and you have job protection legislation. I live and work in Germany. Is the system perfect no. Companies have more anxiety to employ people directly due to work protection. Its more difficult to be e-Bay, we have a lower level of millionaires.
There is an upside. I live in the middle of a city. I have access to a public transport system which means I don't need a car. There are no pot holes in the road and for most of a journey no speed limits on the motorways due to the quality of the roads. I know no-one with a gun. I have no problem with my mother walking around the city alone at night. I have 100% medical insurance including glasses, contact lenses and dental work.. There is no gang crime or homelessness. We have no capital punishment Social statistics such as teenage pregnancy, abortion, imprisonment, STD, gun crime are multiple factors under the US.
Maybe its worth to think how we can learn from you and how you can learn from us. - maz2331, on 10/11/2008, -1/+4The systems and politics in Europe can be different from the USA for one very important reason: European nations have far fewer social, religious, and regional differences than the USA.
The USA is much more like a "federation" than a "people." Urban areas are far different from rural ones, and New England has about as much in common with Alabama as Germany does with France. Even within a state, the differences can be quite stark, even among those in the same economic "class".
Public transit in America can never be as good as Europe, simply because the country is so big, and the population isn't as concentrated. Large cities such as New York can do it, but it's not cost-effective in, say, Wichita. And you can pretty much forget about providing bus service to a family 20 miles out in the woods. - nick1971, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5maz2331 although I respect you view point but I disagree with it. Germany has massive immigration from the what would have been known as the Eastern block and on top of that from southern Europe. Our system is still imperfect but we have a lower levels of teenage pregnancies; a lower level of abortions: a lower level of gun crime: a lower level of gun ownership ( I know no-one who has a gun); a lower level of access to medical care both pre-natel and post partum; a lower level of medical insurance; a lower level of homeliness; I live in the center of the city, there is no gun violence, I have no problem waking through the streets, I have no problem that my mother walks through the streets; i know no-one who owns a gun
My question is that Europe spends a lot of time analysis the US. Is it not about time that you analyze Europe and what works. - ozel01, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3Enacting and enforcing labor laws of this type means no job growth. Any business that can't sustain their current employee rate will simply close shop. Throw out their ability to scale back ops and leave them no choice but closure. Go to Germany and see how many real entrepreneurs there are. You won't find many. Most money is old money that is passed down from generation to generation in the form of a business usually. The same can be said for many other parts of Europe.
The other side of the equation is if I am required to maintain a certain level of employees, I am likely going to be extremely careful about creating more jobs, if I can afford to stay in business at all.
- Blinker1315, on 10/09/2008, -0/+4I can sympathize with a lot of what you're saying, but how can you pass a bill to prohibit companies from laying off people? In economic distress, small companies are going to go out of business, and much more quickly if they're forced by the government to keep the same number of employees.
- onlysc, on 10/09/2008, -3/+7one miiiilllllliioon dollars
- BlitzTips, on 10/09/2008, -1/+6Terrible article.
- jstreveln, on 10/09/2008, -7/+6what would make me vote for mccain? i dont know.a frontal labotomy?....maybe!
- Blinker1315, on 10/09/2008, -2/+3So I guess you're a confirmed Obama voter? Or are you going third party? I'm still not decided, don't like either candidate.
- earthforce1, on 10/10/2008, -1/+6I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, instead of a frontal lobotamy! (Yeah it's old)
If I was American, I would be voting for Bob Barr. As I am Canadian, I am going to vote Green.
- earthforce1, on 10/10/2008, -1/+6I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, instead of a frontal lobotamy! (Yeah it's old)
- Blinker1315, on 10/09/2008, -2/+3So I guess you're a confirmed Obama voter? Or are you going third party? I'm still not decided, don't like either candidate.
- DekarCorvus, on 10/10/2008, -2/+5My own self sustaining island away from american influence. a private yact, a Bugatti Veyron....and 1 billion dollars!
oh....and a klondike bar!
EDIT: I think i'd need american citizenship first as well....so lets just add that to the list for good measure ;) - hopscotchjumper, on 10/10/2008, -5/+10What would make me vote for McCain. Easy answer OBAMA.
- Blinker1315, on 10/10/2008, -3/+7That's the best answer yet. Obama, with huge Democratic majorities in Congress, gives me the willies. If that happens, he'll be able to let his liberal freak flag fly; if he has to cobble together votes, he'll be more centrist.
- thepoliticalcat, on 10/11/2008, -4/+7I can't imagine anything ever making me want to vote for McCain. The fact that his mental capacity is deteriorating right before my eyes is scary enough. Then there's Governator KillerChristBot standing right behind him waiting to turn America into the horror of the The Handmaid's Tale. Between the financial crisis and the loss of American power, prestige, friendships, and relationships that have taken close to a century to build up and strengthen, we're totally ***** if McCain takes power.
- maz2331, on 10/11/2008, -1/+6Obama.
- straightalk, on 10/11/2008, -0/+3whatever dude..
- 7sons, on 10/12/2008, -1/+6America on the precipice of full blown socialism.
- Blinker1315, on 10/12/2008, -0/+3I don't agree about the socialism apocalyptic picture, although I'm sure a lot of Americans wouldn't mind it. Obama's no socialist, and he'll be running for reelection starting on Jan. 21st. The big question is whether he goes back on his pledge and massively raises taxes on almost everyone. That could easily happen, with a compliant Democratic Congress, and small business (and its employees) will take the brunt of it. Corporate America usually can adapt much quicker to changing economic situations, at least those who aren't crooked.
- 7sons, on 10/13/2008, -2/+3You are correct Nobama is no socialist, he is a Che Guevara, Saul Alinsky Fidel Castro Communist.
- Blinker1315, on 10/12/2008, -0/+3I don't agree about the socialism apocalyptic picture, although I'm sure a lot of Americans wouldn't mind it. Obama's no socialist, and he'll be running for reelection starting on Jan. 21st. The big question is whether he goes back on his pledge and massively raises taxes on almost everyone. That could easily happen, with a compliant Democratic Congress, and small business (and its employees) will take the brunt of it. Corporate America usually can adapt much quicker to changing economic situations, at least those who aren't crooked.
- PuterPrsn, on 10/12/2008, -3/+6The one main reason I have to vote for McCain is that he's the only candidate that might defeat Obama, and that is reason enough. I DO NOT want a full-blown socialist in the Whitehouse with a Democrat majority in Congress.
- ozel01, on 10/13/2008, -1/+4The most stark poiint to date is the one made just above. Give Obama the white house with sustainable majorities (that means enough to do their own bidding) in the house and senate and we have a recipe for total US destruction. By the end of 2 years, the US will be a ghost of its former self. By year 4, we will likely be a subject of the United Nations.
- jadex, on 10/13/2008, -1/+2I couldn't vote for a man whose lost all of his morals and scruples, that continues to lie about darn near everything he says and he picked as a running mate someone that is guilty of abuse of power ... "I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110 (a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act," Branchflower wrote in the report.
Not to mention I think his mental capacity has diminished greatly in recent years.
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