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Top 10 Myths Keeping Hillary In The Race

huffingtonpost.com — The Myths which are keeping hillary in race are:This race is tied.Okay, the popular vote is tied.Fine, but what if we count electoral votes? NOW Hillary is ahead! But if we did do it like the Electoral College, that proves Hillary is more electable than Obama, because of states like California....

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  • pilobilus, on 03/31/2008, -2/+41Comes the next General Election, I'm voting for Anyone But Hillary. Can I hear an Amen?

    If I have to write in Dennis Kucinich just to underscore the fact that the Democratic Party is owned by the same ***** of lobbyists who now own the White House, so be it.
    • RepubOperative, on 03/31/2008, -39/+4Top 10 Obama Lies

      1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

      2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

      3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

      4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

      5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

      6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

      7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

      8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

      9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

      10.) Obama Overstates Kennedys' Role in Helping His Father
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
      • ClockworksNine, on 03/31/2008, -6/+19Shoo, grownups are talking. Spread you FUD elsewhere, RepubOperative.
      • Spytap, on 03/31/2008, -2/+19Oh my God! There's a chance he could have at one time been or been around a Muslim! That means he's a Tirrist!


        Learn to read, and wait for that other testicle to drop, then feel free to rejoin the conversation.
      • aliengoods, on 03/31/2008, -2/+19With a name like RepubOperative, you don't hide your bias, and I applaud you for that. But you present your distorted, dishonest ***** as fact, and I digg you down for that.
      • chrisgnv, on 03/31/2008, -1/+6Do you KNOW you're full of ***** as you are typing? How are ANY of those relevant to his qualification to be a president, or to the magnitude of Hillary's lies?
      • InfamousAtheist, on 03/31/2008, -1/+5I never cease to be amazed at the diehard right-wingers' abilities to tune out the truth while swallowing and regurgitating complete *****.
        You should be ashamed of yourself - spreading outright falsehoods and racist propaganda is immoral and wrong. You're eating yourself with hatred.
  • iheartboobs, on 03/31/2008, -3/+53before 08 I thought the republicans hate for hillary was unfounded or sexists
    after 08 I started understanding why so much of the country hates her
    • wynja, on 03/31/2008, -1/+15It's okay. At least you pulled your head out of the sand to breath before it was too late.
    • vault, on 03/31/2008, -4/+8Hey don't feel bad...it only took you what, 16 years to learn the truth about Hitlery?
    • 3tcp, on 03/31/2008, -0/+19Clinton stands for Unity! Together, people of all races, politics and backgrounds will stand up, hold hands and shout in one voice "Hillary Clinton, ***** off!"
    • dfwlinuxguy, on 03/31/2008, -1/+5I guess that everyone has forgotten that "it depend on what the meaning of the word is...is" and the fact that Bill outright sold all our military secrets to China. The Chinese couldn't even get a rocket to fly before we helped them...a communist, oppressive government. The Clinton's are for the same scorched earth win at all costs politics we've been dealing with since Reagan left office. For the first time in my adult life, I'm ready to vote for a Democrat. I'm ready for Obama. I don't agree with him on every issue. I have a HUGE disagreement on how to handle the ILLEGAL immigration issue, but at least with him I won't have to spend the next 9 year of politics as it has been. John McCain all but came out and said he was in favor of a one world government the other day with his statements about an "American Union" in the same fashion as the EU. Lump us all together in smaller and smaller groups until heck boundaries don't matter..we're all a part of this world and should be governed by one group that has our "best interests" at heart. If you think that the Clinton's aren't in the same group...you're kidding yourself. American prosperity, wealth, jobs, security, knowledge are all being undermined in the name of one world government. Obama MAY...I say COULD BE a part of the same crowd, but at least I don't yet know that for sure. He seems to be for unity. I can take the next 9 years of seeing him represent our Country. I can't say the same for Clinton or McCain.
      • wynja, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1Seriously, Russia is broken and we needed an new enemy, so back off Clinton selling secrets to China. It was done for the good of the Military Industrial Complex.
  • DiggLive, on 03/31/2008, -1/+27"She won all the big states!"

    Man, that pisses me off every time I hear it. California and New York are going to be Democratic with anyone as the nominee. Besides those two, what big states has she won?
    • j0hneb0y81, on 03/31/2008, -0/+15texa... wait.. nevermind :)
    • wynja, on 03/31/2008, -11/+2Does anyone listen to those half baked crackpots from CA anymore?
      • Coug, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2yup - come on by and you'll see we know what we're talking about
    • Apokalyps2547, on 03/31/2008, -5/+2How long has it been since the General Election went to the candidate that won CA & NY?
      • vertexoflife, on 04/01/2008, -0/+5The president before our current one, *****.
    • h4ppydotcom, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4Florida...?
  • okayokayokay, on 03/31/2008, -3/+18I hope everyone can keep in mind that most Hillary supporters are well-intentioned people who have been sold these very myths. We can choose to dispel these falsehoods with hurtful I-told-you-so's, or we can choose to patiently and compassionately reach out to these folks as allies. We're all going to need to play on the same team in a few months, and the less bitterness the better.
    • dinot, on 03/31/2008, -0/+7"we can choose to patiently and compassionately reach out to these folks as allies."

      Have you ever tried to have a debate with a Hillary supporter? "Patient" and "compassionate" are hardly suitable words to describe them. If you don't believe me, go here www.hillaryis44.org You'll see they're not well-intentioned, but rather angry, vindictive women who feel that their candidate is being cheated from what is rightfully hers.
      • aliengoods, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2I just checked out that hillaryis55.org site.....and I thought the godhatesfags.com site was *****.
      • okayokayokay, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Wow, okay. Agreed - that website is obviously evil. And I've never tried to have a debate with THOSE wingnuts. But the Hillary supporters I HAVE interacted with are real world human beings with hopes, dreams, families, and souls just like the rest of us. How do I know this? Because I LISTEN to them, rather than just shoving the truth down their throats. Because showing them that you care more about connecting than about pwning gives them space to listen BACK.
        • dinot, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4Though my experiences have been different, I totally agree with what you're saying. I just wish that mentality could be applied to Hillary supporters as well. It would make things a lot easier.
  • wynja, on 03/31/2008, -0/+10Hahahahah, that's right eat a Valium and just lie down. As every day passes, Clinton only proves how selfish she really is. She will do nothing but hurt her own Senate reelection at this point.
  • kemp34, on 03/31/2008, -1/+10Power hungry people are not good.
    • gcauthon, on 03/31/2008, -2/+4Pop quiz... Which candidate is for "change?" Which candidate could you sit down and have a beer with? Which candidate is power hungry? Which candidate supports the troops? Here's a hint, there are are no wrong answers. If you consider any of these valid criteria for choosing a candidate then you may as well flip a coin in the ballot booth. All politicians, especially presidential candidates, are power hungry.
  • Edgeworth, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3@RepubOperative
    [citation needed]
    • motivatedmama, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1He's out eating babies somewhere.
    • InfamousAtheist, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1@Edgeworth
      [See that blue word "Reply?" Learn to use it.]
  • WhoismP, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5Although all those are all myths, there is one fact: 1968 can happen all over again.
  • harrisbradley, on 03/31/2008, -9/+4Myth #1 - America is ready for a female president
    • shortysmyname, on 03/31/2008, -0/+9I think America is not ready for this female president (Hillary). She's really ruining our reputation and making women look bad!
    • unreg, on 03/31/2008, -4/+1Myth #1.1 - America is not ready for a Black president
      • Iconoclast25, on 04/01/2008, -1/+2Truth # 1.1 - America is ready for a President of color, but not a LYING EMPTY SUIT RACIST President.
    • Iconoclast25, on 04/01/2008, -0/+3Truth #1 - America is ready for a female President, but not a LYING BITCH President.
  • elshizzo, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5An excellent cheatsheet to keep when arguing with a Hillary supporter
  • egoherodotus, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4she is so incredibly selfish. disgusting.
  • aoki4, on 03/31/2008, -6/+0those arent myths u guys r so gullable
  • bruenig, on 03/31/2008, -1/+4Truth #1: In a democracy, each vote should be counted. Later states shouldn't have 0 say in the matter but should at least be able to articulate a preference.
    • aznhomig, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3If you come up with a system to tally up every single vote, establish 100% voter turnout, and find a way to make this counting process infallable without a margin of error, then be my guest.
    • unreg, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2You do understand that the Presidential Election is not a popularity contest, don't you?
    • jeffwmartin, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1A) we don't live in a democracy
      B) This is the process to select a candidate, it is controlled by the political parties and has nothing to do with your right to vote.
      • bruenig, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1A) Depends on your definition, we democratically elect representatives.
        B) My point is about what *should* happen, it is therefore a prescriptive statement not one based on current rights or practices. People should be allowed to within their own party have a say in what that party does. Whether the current setup guarantees it as a right has nothing to do with my statement of *should*.
  • jimfin25, on 03/31/2008, -3/+1Will anyone even vote for mccain come nov?
    • Seldon2639, on 03/31/2008, -1/+1There are plenty of Obama supporters who would rather see McCain in the White House than Hillary, and the reverse is true as well
      • motivatedmama, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Honestly, at one point I thought I could hold my nose and vote for Hillary if I had to, I just couldn't do that now! Please don't make me!!!
        Still a vote for McCain is the vote of a madman. Most of us know this and will act accordingly. I just wish there was a viable 3rd party candidate : (
        (End nightmare sequence).......Still, (take a deep breath) None of this will come to pass. No need to choose the lesser of two psychos. Whew!
  • vertinox, on 03/31/2008, -0/+7As they said on Bill Maher's show, people in the states that have a late primary should have a chance to vote on the Presidential candidates.

    Now the best solution would be that we'd have all the primaries on the same day, but this year in PA is one of the few times their primary might "sort of" mean something.
    • localcats, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2Only the richest candidates could afford to run in a national nomination contest.
      • medarby, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1If they can't run nationally in the primary, how are they going to run nationally in the general election?
        • jeffwmartin, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1When you have 10 candidates running for the same party, the money is spread out. In the general, there's only 1 candidate per party.
  • lordmetroid, on 03/31/2008, -4/+3Is her plastic surgery a myth or not?
  • Jeffthestrider, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1I despise these articles that set up these strawman arguments. It's designed to sound like the guy answering the myths is smart and the guy asking them is naive. These articles should be dismissed.
  • bingobongony, on 03/31/2008, -4/+2People talk baout how this is hurting Obama's chances in November...but what is hurting his chances far more is sites like huffingtonpost bitching about how Obama is hte best, etc. NO ONE wants an endorsement from the huffington post. Also hurting Obama are the endless psma that will eventually get him banned entirely from Digg's front page.
  • mal1964, on 03/31/2008, -3/+2"Obama is so Great!"
    • motivatedmama, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1Hey mal, was thinkin' bout you today. Wanted to apologize for jumping on you on the other board (about donations) You're okay with me ; )
  • Seldon2639, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3There's something particularly annoying about creating straw-man arguments for your opponents positions, and then (surprise) being able to prove them wrong. It takes more than a little equivocation to say "well, if we changed the electoral college to proportional representation (which it isn't, nor has ever been), Obama's still winning in the electoral college." It's subtle, and it's tricky, but it's there. Obama supporters have a strong enough argument without prevarication.

    The issue is that either way we're shooting ourselves in the foot. About one-in-six Obama supporters have said they would not vote for Hillary, and about the same proportion of Hillary supporters said the opposite. I think this will go a lot easier if both sides (and I include Obama supporters who are "nudge, nudge, wink, wink not part of the campaign") stop beating each other up. The Huffington Post needs to lay off the "Hillary doesn't understand reality" crap, and the papers supporting Hillary need to lay off the crap about Rev. Wright.

    Now's when I get dugg down because someone's going to claim the Huffington Post is non-biased, and just reporting on what's really happening. I don't mind. But before you do, I'd only ask that you really think for a second about whether the news you're reading, about Obama having descended from on high, and Hillary is a selfish witch, is anything more than confirmation bias, and an echo-chamber. Is it unbiased because it's fair, or unbiased because you agree with it?
    • Nichoman, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1I wouldn't necessarily call these strawman arguments because they are the valid points that explain why Hillary is still in the race. But what this, and countless other editorials are saying is that Hillary should give up because it's hurting the party. I disagree with that sentiment and think that she can run her campaign however she's sees fit. And I don't support Hillary, if that gives any additional weight to my two cents. This is also the same position that Obama has taken as well.

      But this editorial is very informative in that it puts the facts and figures up on display to basically say that Hillary has nearly impossible odds to overcome to get the nomination at this point.

      BTW: Don't say things like "when I get dugg down" because we heathens will do that regardless of what you say. (I dugg you up though.)
  • sixspeed, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1Good luck Obama fans with your strategy to get your candidate into the White House by alienating half of the Democratic party.
    • kanabiis, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1"Good luck Obama Clinton fans with your strategy to get your candidate into the White House by alienating half the Democratic party."

      There fixed that for you.
    • fmaxwell, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1You do realize that Hillary is the one who lost a primary and boarded a plane without giving a concession speech or even thanking those who voted for her, don't you?
  • asskicker32, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2Horray for Montana!!! They will decide this mess.
  • unreg, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2#11: Giving the Digg Nation something to post about
  • ASSASSYN360, on 03/31/2008, -1/+0Did anyone else hear a different voice in their head as they read this article? I did.
  • AvangionQ, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1Would have been better without the sarcasm at the end ... leave the sarcasm to the bloggers and the comments section ...
  • joeanon, on 04/01/2008, -1/+1This guy is just babbling.

    The reason Hilary is in the race is because she has the support of millions of voters and she is still pulling in contribution money.

    I see no reason for her to drop out yet. It would be half asses to go this far and not stick in the race. You never know what can happen and Hilary, unlike most Americans, is smart enough to know that.

    Those talking about good old fashion competition hurting the race are just undereducated or praying that dem voters magically convert to republican because they have two candidate of presidential potential vs the GOP having McCain.

    Face it, in debate or in the issues McCain gets owned by high school kids. Hilary or Obama would have no problem making him look like a corrupt flip flopping idiot.

    Hilary is in the race because she is one of the top most popular democrats and your slander is ONLY HELPING keep her in the press.

    There is no magic force keeping her in the race nor does she has great media powers or elite wealthy backing her up. She simply has more than enough 'fans' to make her a Presidential candidate, likely any year she decides to run.

    Having served in the 90s, which marked the longest period of economic expansion in US history, Hilary has significant stats in her favor, especially when it comes to the economy.

    Instead of slandering, trying reading. The worst the economy gets the more of an edge she has. However, likely too little too late. Had she come out more aggressively with a more transparent platform and stronger solutions I think she would still be up in the polls.

    However Obama's platform of change and yes we can sound byte has captures people's imaginations.

    On the issues and votes they are fairly identical. The bickering we see is really the FEW differences these two candidate have.

    Clearly though, Bill Clinton is the real catalyst and speaker of the Clinton's. In comparison if you ran Michelle Obama against Hilary she would not stand a chance. Bill is a better speaker and seemingly more able to think on his feet than Hilary .

    Overall Bill is certainly far more of an asset than Michelle Obama.

    Obama voted for the war on terror by voting YES for the Patriot Act twice. As a constitutional
    law expert you think he would have known better.

    He calls Hilary out for her vote in Iraq and what on banking reform and a few others at most (the few votes they differ on). YET nobody is calling out Obama for the Patriot Act because all but two democrats voted no.

    Still, likely the public will call him out on that. He says he doesn't support torture and spying.... BUT he signed the Patriot Act twice.....

    so... I cal ***** on that one.

    That along with touring the south with an anti-gay icon doesn't REALLY put Obama as the better man in this election. This is also the FIRST elected he hasn't taken PAC money.
    I think all in all, Hilary is taking it very easy on Obama and vice versa.

    The dems are just angry and want a quick victory without complications, but asking a candidate to just give up... so the dems can get pounded on my the GOP owned media is just dumb.

    It shows how stupid most American's are and how little they respect the competitive system of politics that got them here.

    You don't give up after this far and this close in the vote. Why...

    Because Obama could be humiliated or choke on a pretzel or something. He could get in an accident or even be attacked by nutball racist Jesus freaks.

    With MANY month left to go and Hilary still pulling in the contributions.... Why drop out ?

    If Obama can't win because of a little competition, then he isn't the right candidate, plain and simple. Obama has offered us little in solution and much in promises. This is the SAME EXACT formula for every candidacy.


    I think while Hilary and Obama rule the scene McCain is NOBODY, he can't even buy effective press time.

    All this, it's hurting the race is just GOP wishful thinking spilling over into democrat fears of another GWB.


    But think about it people, the reason we are here today pushing Obama and Hilary is ALL thanks to GWB. Great failures tend to usher in change and what could be a greater failure than GWB.

    McCain ? .,, maybe

    Now, while another 4 year of idiot President may sound bad... think about the harm he would further do to the GOP.

    If the people are this pro democratic after 8 years of Bush... another 4 years of failure will only make people that much more liberal.

    You want to make people embrace their Constitutional rights... just keep taking them away in the name of patriotism and we'll see how that plays out for the GOP.

    This is a win win situation for the dems. Backing out now while McCain can't even get press seems ... pussyified.

    The last thing the dems need to do is go back to their strategy of compromise. Right now, they have the power, they have them media and they have the people.

    This is also a trick. By dividing dem supporters into two major groups like this, the GOP cannot accurately calculated national support. When polls come up everyone votes for their candidate and many times they feel bitterness toward the opposing democrat.

    However, once the primary is over this theory that dems will convert to republicans and vote for NONE other than McCain out of spite for not getting their candidate is just dumb.

    People may say that, but people say a lot of things when they don't get their way. In reality, that's a VERY far fetched theory.

    More like this current situation is non traditional enough to hide what could be a democratic landslide divided by two candidates.

    The national polls really aren't useful until a month or so before the actual election. Many people still know very little about Obama or McCain... or even Hilary for that matter.
    Overall though Hilary is the most well known person there and she is probably the safer bet since nobody knows how many racists their really are in America. Too late now though, it's likely Obama or McCain.

    Still why suggest Hilary be a quitter in a race so close. Because why ?? because McCain is such a tough opponent.

    cmon

    If you can't beat McCain on your own strength you don't deserve to win... simple and fair.
  • Iconoclast25, on 04/01/2008, -0/+2The only White House job for which either remaining democrat candidate is qualified would be scrubbing the trash cans and toilets. Not that McAmnesty is any prize . . . except in comparison to these two losers.

    BURIED for its flagrant favoritism and effort to bring amity to a group which richly deserves to bleed out dead before November.
  • Veretax, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1Right and because its april 1st we are supposed to believe anything the Huffington Post anymore than on a normal day? Good gravy. She's worse than Limbaugh and Hannity if you ask me.
  • gkiltz, on 04/01/2008, -0/+0The biggest myth keeping Hillary in the race is the one inside her own head--the one that says that she is so much more qualified to tell us what to do than anybody else in the universe that she should be Queen Of the World!!!
    She's going to remain in, no matter HOW delusional she has to be to do it, and, at the convention, when Obama is nominated, look for her to break down!!
  • itstodd, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1The best part is she was the democratic savior last year. Now shes been thrown under the bus. Is it any wonder the world laughs at these drones?
  • Tikisam, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1Myths keeping Obama in the race
    "He's going to unite the country"
    "He will incite change"
    "His campaign is filled with substance, and he holds views on issues"
    "Voting for Obama will make the voter impervious to a 'racist' label"
    "The views taught in his church for 20 years do not reflect his own views"
    "Socialism is a good thing"
    and the biggest myth of all: "He will get us out of Iraq"
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