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- RonPaulNews, on 04/13/2008, -14/+13There is no way on God's green Earth Wisconsin will ever go for McCain. Nor the other states for that matter. Compare the voter turnout in the primaries.
McCain is dead in the water.- vault, on 04/13/2008, -3/+10Yeah speaking of not winning states and voter turnout in the primaries, how did Ron Paul do?
- mooseontheloose, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2You probably need to read this: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herri ...
- ennTOXX, on 04/13/2008, -6/+5You mean "McCain Looks Like He's Dead"... :||
- Herkimer56, on 04/13/2008, -2/+9Listening to political analysis from a Ronbot is like taking financial advice from your dog. Especially when the Ronbot in question seems to have spent most of his time on Digg spamming his own web site. The web site, by the way, is a complete waste of time. There's not one ounce of original content, just loads of links to other people's work. This jerk is a complete spammer.
- aliengoods, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2The RonBot is right. I'm from Wisconsin and I know people who are openly racist who've said they'd vote for Obama over McCain. The only way McCain can win Wisconsin if is he's running against Hillary.
- vault, on 04/13/2008, -3/+10Yeah speaking of not winning states and voter turnout in the primaries, how did Ron Paul do?
- peggig, on 04/13/2008, -7/+6It looks like we're in more danger from red states turning blue than the other way around.
But maybe, if Obama makes a few more choice remarks about the ignorant working classes who only vote out of frustration and bitterness (on insignificant issues like guns and immigration), more people will start to see who he really is...- mejaredme, on 04/13/2008, -5/+5This is true. People are getting tired of hearing, "hope, hope, hope, change, change, change." Eventually he will have to start saying something of meaning: that is when he will start loosing support.
- jbdobd, on 04/13/2008, -8/+3Good thing McCain and Clinton have already given them a candidate of "no hope" and "more of the same"
- smotpoker, on 04/14/2008, -2/+2Bah, dugg your comment too soon :
Ignorance isn't a crime and unfortunately it affects more than just the working class. Do you deny that the average american isn't fairly ignorant or that the average american isn't part of the working class?
Issue of guns and immigration may be important but that doesn't negate the facts Obama was pointing out - that they are consistently being used as tools of deception to distract people from the greater threats of government corruption/greed and to polarize them into what is essentially a blind-rage-fueled vilification and perpetuation of lies, thereby undermining any chance of changing/fixing the political system's current flawed/corrupt implementation(s)
However, though they may be ignorant, they aren't stupid. Noone who hears the entire message will believe that he was insulting anyone and they will all realize he was absolutely right. His unelegant statement won't cause any harm
- mejaredme, on 04/13/2008, -5/+5This is true. People are getting tired of hearing, "hope, hope, hope, change, change, change." Eventually he will have to start saying something of meaning: that is when he will start loosing support.
- barthook, on 04/13/2008, -4/+7Against Obama, McCain has a decent shot at New York. If that happens, it is over for Obama. I do think Obama could possible pick up Virginia though. It will be an interesting race for sure. The DNC Convention in Denver will also be interesting.
- zephyear, on 04/14/2008, -1/+3new york? are you ***** kidding me? that's like saying obama will sweep the southern states
mccain will get crushed in liberal states like new york and california - argaen21, on 04/14/2008, -2/+2Sorry but Mcsame has no chance in NY.
- zephyear, on 04/14/2008, -1/+3new york? are you ***** kidding me? that's like saying obama will sweep the southern states
- ennTOXX, on 04/13/2008, -3/+5I keep asking the same QUESTION, "Why are these the only people worth running for president?". Now you can see why many people don't even bother to vote... :||
- rjwusa, on 04/14/2008, -0/+7And for those who abandon their patriotic responsibility to vote, if you don't like who is elected president, we'll all be very happy to see you stew in silence, as you will have absolutely no justification to whine, moan, groan, complain, bitch or kvetch about the new president and other elected officials.
- camelseye, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1So who will head up the organization of a write-in en masse. It would be a historically amazing cou, if it actually happened..."We, the people..." I get so excited about just the thought!
- thotpoizn, on 04/14/2008, -0/+2Given the choice of which of three dog turds is the least turd-like, I feel that the entire country has every right to whine regardless of whether they vote or not. I don't know about how other people feel, but it seems to me that every candidate of any serious merit has already been eliminated, with only the worst dregs washing up from the bottom of the pot. I will get out and perform my "patriotic responsibility," but sadly I - perhaps like most Americans - will be trying to vote AGAINST the WORST candidate, rather than FOR the BEST one. There is no best one.
- wild, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2I think Obama is a candidate with very serious merit. At 28, this is the first time in my lifetime I have had a chance to truly say I am inspired by a presidential candidate with a serious shot at getting elected who shares the same viewpoints on my key issues.
I have been one to usually vote independent. I tend to get tired of the Democrats promises and the Republicans entitlement. I get tired of hearing about us vs them in politics. Obama seems different than that. Yes, he is running for the Dem nod, but it is clear from both parties he has a crossover appeal and depth of political understanding that scares them both.
For you see, if Obama wins, he will have the ability to strengthen our government by making it about the issues, while the traditional politicians have to relearn how to get elected. And for you Ron Paul and Kucinich supporters, you need to look at what that means. It means the smaller guys will have a better shot. When politicians can no longer run on the color of the coat, and instead have to talk the issues, the little guys can get in there. They can get people to listen.
And suddenly we'll have a third and a fourth side to every issue. It won;t be yes or no support, but compromise to get it as right as we can. No, that change won;t happen overnight, but the Obama campaign means so much more than just whether or not he is a guy with merit. It also means that the bitter and disenfranchised can get a new way of politics in Washington. And that means guys like you, who use the word turd in political discourse, may someday be able to say you have a hard time choosing between the 5 contenders in November.
Pipe dream talk? I don;t think so. Its called hope. Hope that is being followed by action. Its no longer "Yes We Can." But "Yes, We Are."- rjwusa, on 04/14/2008, -0/+4This is an excellent video outlining Obama. Please take a look. http://independencehallliberty.blogspot.com/2008/0 ...
- drachemorder, on 04/14/2008, -2/+3You think Obama is willing to make compromises in the political process to make things work? I don't see that. All I see is a guy who pushes the most leftist ideas he can. For example, he's pushing for gay rights legislation what would force Christian organizations and businesses to hire homosexuals against the dictates of their conscience. I can understand his supporting gay rights (though I disagree strongly with it), but the point is that someone who was really interested in compromise and common ground would be reaching out to find a way to accomodate conservatives' desire not to be forced to accept a lifestyle we find abhorrent. No, Obama is just as much an ideologically driven leftist as any of them. He just has a nice shiny waxed coating over it --- but no matter how much you try to polish a turd, it's still a turd.
- vault, on 04/14/2008, -0/+2Can you name an actual issue, wild, and not just this whole hope/change/peace/liberty rhetoric? What do you honestly like about him?
- wild, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2I think Obama is a candidate with very serious merit. At 28, this is the first time in my lifetime I have had a chance to truly say I am inspired by a presidential candidate with a serious shot at getting elected who shares the same viewpoints on my key issues.
- chicofaraby, on 04/14/2008, -1/+1Vote third party. Any third party. It registers you voted but it's not for either "same ol' crap" party. We won't get any change by voting for the same two corrupt and pointless parties.
- rjwusa, on 04/14/2008, -0/+3The democrats are counting on a split vote to get them into the White House. The best thing to do, if you are a republican, is to switch to libertarian, independent or constitutional party. If enough people abandon their party registration, that will send a strong signal that may cause the republican party to rethink their lameness. We are in a two party system. like it or not. A third party will never be viable. Ross Perot proved this when his candidacy put the Billy-Bob Clinton into the white house by splitting the republican vote.
- camelseye, on 04/14/2008, -0/+2We need a visible leader to head up the organization of a write-in en masse. It would be a historically amazing cou, if it actually happened..."We, the people..." I get so excited about just the thought!
- rjwusa, on 04/14/2008, -0/+7And for those who abandon their patriotic responsibility to vote, if you don't like who is elected president, we'll all be very happy to see you stew in silence, as you will have absolutely no justification to whine, moan, groan, complain, bitch or kvetch about the new president and other elected officials.
- felman87, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1There's gotta be more states up for grab than that.
- argaen21, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1Virginia and Colorado.
- willk281, on 04/14/2008, -1/+3Wait, wait, wait...wait, wait...wait...Obama's black?
- zephyear, on 04/14/2008, -2/+8i live in wisconsin and it is not going for mccain, it won't even be close.
we haven't voted for a republican since reagen, and EVERYONE voted for reagen
obama is loved here, he crushed hillary, our govoner (who's pretty well liked, most likely to get the first 3rd term in history) and our senators will be for him, which are both very well liked, and milwaukee mayor is for him also.
milwaukee and madison are ultra liberal, and so are the counties surrounding milwaukee to some extent
and finally, i'm ***** sick of people using polling NOW when obama is FIGHTING HILLARY and a guideline for november, jesus christ. - Ganja420, on 04/14/2008, -2/+3***** the Electoral College *****.
Voting for Obama in Tennessee is worthless but I'm gonna do it anyway... unfortunately in my state we're over 60% republican.
And if your voting for McCain in California or New York it won't count for anything.... get rid of this "all or nothing" state delegate ***** - Rotzooi, on 04/14/2008, -2/+3Who cares about McCain, there is no chance Americans are stupid enough to vote another Republican in office. 8 disastrous years are quite enough, even for the most nutty of rightwing nutjobs.
- caccia, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1Dugg
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