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Soldiers Say Obama Plan WONT WORK

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soulwarriorone 86 days ago

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SheilaNoya, on 07/12/2008, -9/+3A handful of pro-war soldiers don't like Obama's plan?

Maybe you should also listen to the thousands of soldiers, veterans, and military families who DO like Obama's plans:

- Iraq Veterans Against the War
- West Point Graduates Against the War
- Gold Star Families for Peace
- Military Families Speak Out
- Service Academy Graduates Against The War
- Veterans For Peace
- Operation Homefront
- Veterans For America
- Peace Out
- GI Hotline
- Bring Them Home Now

You can find links to all of them here:

http://www.vaiw.org/vet/index.php

- There are also many Generals who have sided with Obama.
- The Iraqi government is also demanding a timetable for our withdrawal.
- Obama also gets more donations from military personnel than McCain does

Shall I go on?
- soulwarriorone, on 07/12/2008, -2/+6perhaps you could tell me the reasons you support Obama, i.e. his accomplishments, qualifications?
  I can promise you John McCain was not my first choice, but this election is truly the choice between the lesser of two evils, and unless something changes, he will be my vote in November
  I ask my question not to argue with you, but simply to hear your reasoning.
  - SheilaNoya, on 07/12/2008, -4/+5It would require much more space than Digg allows to cover every reason.
    
    To simplify matters, Obama wants to move this country forward again and he can restore our standing in the international comunity. In contrast, McCain will just keep us static and falling behind. I want a president who is willing to talk to all world leaders in an effort to find common ground and work toward peaceful resolutions to our problems. McCain follows Bush's example of hiding in the Oval Office and refusing to speak to anyone we don't like. We'll never solve anything if our only plan is calling them names (evildoers) and threatening them with military action. It's time that we act like adults and sit down face-to-face with our adversaries and open up some dialogue. That's not "appeasement" like McCain calls it, it's just common sense.
    
    Obama wants to bring the war to a close, while McCain keeps giving us excuses why we should have more war.
    
    Obama plans to invest in our infrastructure and also invest $150 billion on alternative energy and new technology. McCain doesn't invest anything in America. He's just "hoping" that the Free Market approach will make something happen.
    
    Both Obama and McCain are trying to reach across the aisle now to represent most Americans. However, Obama has much more support from his followers to do this than McCain does. The Republican base freaks out whenever McCain reaches across the aisle. If he became president they would fight to have him only represent them, just like they have done with Bush. Obama has a much better chance of representing ALL of us, not just 1/3 of us.
    
    Obama wants to remove the tax incentives for businesses that ship jobs overseas and give tax breaks to companies that create new jobs here at home. McCain thinks impeding corporations from shifting jobs overseas will put an undue burden on business in the "Global Economy". McCain offers no tax incentives for creating jobs here.
    
    Healthcare - Obama's plan is the best thing is the world, but it's a good start. McCain's "Free Market" approach scares the hell out of me. McCain's tax break he offers to individuals is paid for by removing the tax break businesses get to provide insurance as an employee benefit. However, the tax credit McCain offers is far less than the value of what insurance costs of you have to start buying for yourself once your employer stops providing it. McCain's healthcare plan is absolutely horrible and only makes things worse for anyone who gets their healthcare insurance from their employer.
    
    McCain's past record on Iraq has been horrific. He claimed it would be a short war. He agreed with Cheney that we would be welcomed as liberators. He lied to us about how safe Baghdad was when he visisted Iraq. He has had a constant stream of misinformation when it comes to Iraq and I refuse to vote for another Republican who just keeps telling us that everything is fine.
    
    Economy - Obama's plan will create jobs (see his web site because I'm not going to list it all here). McCain just "hopes" if businesses get more tax breaks they will hire people. That's the same ***** economic plan Bush Sr. had that ruined our economy before.
    
    McCain has also surrounded himself with all of Bush's incompetent cronies who got us into the mess we're in today. I don't want more of the same crap we've already endurred for 7 1/2 years.
    
    If you haven't given up reading this long answer to your request, then read the plans on Obama's web site and compare them to McCain's. See who actually provides details and who just makes vague promises.
    
    Obama isn't going to be the answer to all of our prayers and he won't make everyone 100% satisfied, but he's far better than McCain. Since a 3rd party candidate will never win, we only have two realistic choices. ONE of these two men will be our next president. I'm backing Obama.
  - Lleu, on 07/12/2008, -3/+4Well said Shelia
Lleu, on 07/12/2008, -2/+7The Iraqi government and it's people have asked us for a time table. It doesn't matter what our leaders or our military thinks. If we don't leave we officially move from "liberators" to an occupying force.
- dkapuchino, on 07/12/2008, -2/+7Dugg you up for leaving because the Iraqis asked us to. But while we should leave, we must do so in the way that protects ours soldiers the most, not the way that pleases the Iraqis the most.
  
  Since it's physically impossible to withdraw all at once, we must do so gradually. As the number of soldiers there declines, the risk to the soldiers that are still there rises. We must also withdraw responsibly, and avoid leaving weapons and classified technologies behind.
  
  If I could give one recommendation to our commanders, it would be to take example from the Israeli withdrawals. They kept the exact withdrawal date from lebanon in 2000 a complete secret, and in the course of one night, completely withdrew, before anyone could try and take advantage of the withdrawal.
  - soulwarriorone, on 07/12/2008, -2/+4amen, and well-said!
dkapuchino, on 07/12/2008, -1/+8A wise commander in chief listens to his subordinates. He might not have to agree with them, he definitely should be the one to lead and decide, but if he can't listen to the experienced commanders serving under him, he does not deserve his position.
Ridgeliner7, on 07/12/2008, -1/+3
#1, the Iraqi Government has made no official request, so that line of so-called thinking is bogus.

#2, A minister said an on-going presence for the United States, in so far as bases were concerned, needed to be predicated upon a withdrawal/reduction in force, timetable. That same minister also said it was his governments wish that the United States do have some presence to train and offer assistance if needed.
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