- apastafarian, on 10/20/2008, -159/+34Stolen signs, vandalism and threats. This happens to supporters on both sides every election and they both use it as proof of the other sides evil. Personally, I would never put up political yard signs or bumper stickers on my property. I don't think they are effective at changing anyone's vote, but they leave you open to retribution from the other side.
- mgraham80, on 10/20/2008, -12/+156Just like rape victims invite assault for wearing short skirts.
- MWeather, on 10/21/2008, -81/+10Are you saying dressing provocatively doesn't increase your chance of getting raped, or did you just miss the point?
- 11b1p, on 10/21/2008, -58/+12Well I certainly wouldn't rape someone in hard to get off jeans and shirt but a skirt thats just too easy not to.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/21/2008, -3/+73Mweather: The point you missed is that dressing provocatively and displaying yard signs are legal acts that do not justify any illegal "response."
- sigmaman2, on 10/21/2008, -1/+40What you wear has little to do with it. I haven't heard of an outbreak of rapes at the beach on a sunny day. A rapist will rape the first convenient target.
Similarly, what you put on your lawn has little to do with it. If someone is predisposed to violence against people that don't share their beliefs, that's their problem. - TheGuruStud, on 10/21/2008, -19/+4He's probably a christian troll trying to make real pastafarians look bad haha
- MWeather, on 10/21/2008, -31/+8"The point you missed is that dressing provocatively and displaying yard signs are legal acts that do not justify any illegal "response.""
And yelling ***** in Harlem doesn't justify getting your ass kicked. But that's what will happen if you do. The consequences of your actions don't have to be justified for them to occur. - mgraham80, on 10/21/2008, -5/+27@ MWeather: your analogy is provocative, but it doesn't quite work. Displaying a yard sign in support of a political candidate =/= yelling *****. Yelling ***** is hate speech; "inviting violence" for putting a yard sign in your front yard is similar to getting beat up for dressing like a fag or something.
- MWeather, on 10/21/2008, -28/+5The analogy works just fine.
Putting up a sign increases the chance the sign or your home will be vandalized just as yelling a racial slur increases your chances of getting your ass kicked. That's a fact. Whether the consequences are justified is completely and totally irrelevant to the topic at hand. - apastafarian, on 10/21/2008, -2/+10Dude, I never told YOU not to wear the short skirt, just that I wouldn't and not just because I have big hairy legs. Surprising response though. I'm perplexed, how does my (attempted) non partisan comment makes me out to be Christian? AND does all the buries mean that many here are for sign theft, vandalism or threats as long as it's only done by the "other" side? Do you really think that the people on one side are all kindness and light while the other side all wear the black hats?
FWIW, I'm all for supporting a candidate (I'm manning a phone bank for Obama this weekend). I'm just not willing to go the extra yard and pony up for a new set of tires because my choice of bumper sticker pissed off a Palin drone! - mechnoch, on 10/21/2008, -3/+18Those Palin drones scare the ***** out of me. I have evitative aibohphobia.
And MWeather, are you seriously saying that yelling "*****" is the same as putting up a yard sign in support of a political candidate? What ***** planet are you from? - apastafarian, on 10/21/2008, -8/+2mechnoch
1- It was pretty clear that his/her point was both have their consequences, not that they're the same thing!
2- I'm confident that he/she's from earth. If not, then this is a truly historic thread.
Bonus-
3- have you guys said the "n" word enough for one thread already? Throwing it around like this never comes to any good. - DigPiglet, on 10/21/2008, -19/+0Come on Democrats! This is the part of the election where you stereotype everyone that doesn't vote for your black candidate as a racist. Go Go Go!!!!!
The progressive party my ass! - mechnoch, on 10/21/2008, -1/+14Well fine then. I still fail to see how yelling the n-word should evoke the same response as putting up a yard sign in support of a political candidate.
I suppose yes, both acts "leave you open to retribution". However, I reject MWeather's premise that taking justification into account is irrelevant to the argument.
Putting up a yard sign in support of a political candidate should not make one fear for their safety. Shouting the n-word or other hateful and offensive things "in the middle of Harlem" not only should justifiably make one fear for their safety, but should really make one question their own intelligence. - MWeather, on 10/21/2008, -11/+2@meechnoch "I still fail to see how yelling the n-word should evoke the same response as putting up a yard sign in support of a political candidate."
Nobody has claimed it should. Perhaps you should read more closely.
"Putting up a yard sign in support of a political candidate should not make one fear for their safety."
No it shouldn't. But in the right part of the country, it damn well should make you afraid of at least getting the sign stolen, possibly your house egged, your car keyed, etc.
"Shouting the n-word or other hateful and offensive things "in the middle of Harlem" not only should justifiably make one fear for their safety, but should really make one question their own intelligence."
So you support corporal punishment for thought crimes? - mechnoch, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2MWeather,
Yelling the n-word is not a thought crime. It's being vocally hateful and offensive in a public setting.
And no, I do not support 'corporal punishment' for 'thought crimes', but if I hear you yell something hateful and offensive in my direction, I might just kick your ass. The legal system has nothing to do with this unless you choose to press charges against me. And then I'll see you in court, buddy. Being hateful and offensive leaves you 'open to retribution' that I consider justifiable.
But if you put up a yard sign in support of a political candidate that I do not support --or for the sake of argument, say you support a political candidate that I hate-- I am in no way justified in perusing violence against you.
I don't begrudge apastafarian's decision to not publicly support political candidates that s/he supports for fear of 'retribution'. That is apastafarian's decision.
And I'm not arguing that dressing provocatively might not raise a person's chances of being raped. I'm simply saying that putting up yard signs, or dressing provocatively is NOT the same as 'inviting retribution', because they are not hateful and offensive acts in and of themselves.
However, yelling the n-word in a public setting is a hateful and offensive act in and of itself and may well 'invite retribution'.
- SIRBERUS, on 10/21/2008, -5/+56I want to give you an honest chance to prove your point, apastafarian, so can you please show me a reference in regards to McCain signs being stolen or death threats against McCain supporters?
I'm not saying I don't believe it happens, I'm just saying I honestly can't say I've heard of McCain supporters being victimized.- smacksaw, on 10/21/2008, -32/+3No, liberals will just leave notes saying "your sign hurts my feelings" and then maybe cry on it and make it all wet and warped. But the conservatives will threaten to use the 2nd amendment on you, since it's there to keep that 1st amendment in check (according to them), especially things they don't like.
There. Now neither side will Digg me up. - Smaulz, on 10/21/2008, -4/+7I can vouch for McCain signs being stolen. Four so far.
- markhiler, on 10/21/2008, -5/+8McCain signs do get stolen too.
- apastafarian, on 10/21/2008, -8/+5Sorry, I'm not going to waste time better spent looking at video of some kid getting his nuts crushed in a skate board fall to do a google search for you. Nor will I produce any statistics of number of, percentage it;of or size of signs being stolen. You do the leg work if it's that important to you! Thousands if not tens of thousands of those lawn signs will disappear between now and the election. Cars will get keyed, tires slashed nasty threats and graffiti will be left and I'm sure more than a few fist fights will ensue. Both sides will point at the outrageous acts of the other, proof of their superiority. It happens every election cycle. It's not new. Similar complaints about election vandalism are probably written on some wall in ancient Rome.
- SSAG, on 10/21/2008, -12/+3Actually a McCain sign was firebombed recently. Google it. I think this one is *****. It's going to be just like the reporter who said someone yelled kill him about Obama at a McCain rally which turned out to be BS. It's a play to exacerbate sympathy and make the right look bad. Meanwhile, John Stewart can tell Palin to ***** off, McCain signs get firebombed, McCain supporters get beat up in NYC, a kid wearing a Palin shirt gets called racist at school, and the meme is that republicans are violent.
Democrats have completely mastered the art of Newspeak. I'm sure you think that's great if you're a liberal, but you should read 1984 to see what comes next. - Smaulz, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/oct/18/owner-beli ...
- SIRBERUS, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1Also, let me just say that while both sides do things... c'mon now:
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article ... - takamalak, on 10/21/2008, -2/+2McCain signs get stolen by other McCain supporters because they're too cheap or lazy to get their own.
- smacksaw, on 10/21/2008, -32/+3No, liberals will just leave notes saying "your sign hurts my feelings" and then maybe cry on it and make it all wet and warped. But the conservatives will threaten to use the 2nd amendment on you, since it's there to keep that 1st amendment in check (according to them), especially things they don't like.
- macweirdo42, on 10/21/2008, -7/+22Stolen signs? Yeah - I remember back in 2004 my neighbor had a Bush/Cheney sign that was repeatedly stolen. Death threats, though? I think you're glossing over the facts here.
- bphicke, on 10/21/2008, -8/+5Does this guy you know have a Digg user name that rhymes with wacweirdo42?
- Setherex, on 10/21/2008, -6/+2That time it was different, that time he was supporting a puppet and a puppet master
- macweirdo42, on 10/21/2008, -5/+8@Setherex
My point was, I know that sign-stealing and sign-vandalism goes on all the time on both sides, but this goes far beyond childish acts of vandalism. - smacksaw, on 10/21/2008, -10/+4Actually, liberals don't "steal" the sign, they just take it and divide into smaller pieces and place those pieces on other lawns.
- mrsteveman1, on 10/21/2008, -7/+49Your comment boils down to the following:
"This isn't a big deal it happens to every side"
and
"They were asking for it, shouldn't have had those signs out"
You are an ignorant *****- apastafarian, on 10/21/2008, -13/+4One might incorrectly assume things from my post and make your conclusion. You on the other hand leave no room for assumption at all!
- hybrid45, on 10/21/2008, -5/+11So where's the article about the McCain supporter who put up a pro McCain/Palin sign on their front lawn and subsequently had their life threatened?
- frygar, on 10/21/2008, -3/+11It never happened, unless you're talking about that one incident where some punk kid gave the sign a weird look.
- hybrid45, on 10/21/2008, -6/+12exactly.
"This happens to supporters on both sides every election"
"both sides" my arse. - Oranqe, on 10/21/2008, -6/+8I don't think you understand Obama is black, and these are racists that feel like their world is falling apart on top of them. They could care less if a white man wins really, no matter how bad of a choice he or she is.
Yes, he is black. Is that why he is winning? "no". If a good few people could pull their head out of their ass for a second and realize what were witnessing would have been impossible less than twenty years ago, you should think he is winning "despite being black", that shows alone how strong Obama is as a candidate in this election.
How we know the racists are only on the Republican side,
where were these nuts when Hillary was still in the game?
- werries, on 10/21/2008, -8/+2lol. my neighbors Obama/Biden '08 sign was run over by the conservative neighborhood.
Glad i don't put signs up. - qh4dotcom, on 10/21/2008, -8/+3You're right...that's why I put a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car I leased but not on a car I own.
What you say makes common sense unless you're watching and protecting your property 24 hours a day. - dreamtiger, on 10/21/2008, -4/+10Wrong, only Republicans issue death threats. Deal with it, moron.
- apastafarian, on 10/21/2008, -9/+2Here, let me introduce you to a right wing nut job http://digg.com/users/03FightOn
You two should get along famously, you have so much in common. Just like bookends.
- apastafarian, on 10/21/2008, -9/+2Here, let me introduce you to a right wing nut job http://digg.com/users/03FightOn
- preauxx, on 10/21/2008, -3/+9well if it happens on both sides as you claim, then please do share with us footage of obama rallies showing fanatical morons shouting "kill him" and launching accusations of "arab" "terrorist" and "communist" ...
waiting patiently...
this stupid, proudly anti-intellectual irrational fanatacism is exactly what the GOP has sought to leverage since the invention of the southern strategy and the fruits of their labour have finally matured. is anybody in any way shocked that this is where it logically concludes?- cdahlkvist, on 10/21/2008, -3/+1Nice of you to spread the "kill him" story again even though it was shown that it never happened.
As for communist comments, it could be said, with Obama saying he wants to spread the wealth via taxation that some of his ideals are communist.
Regarding the Arab comment - blame the news for that one. The MSM was spreading his Arab ties long before the Republicans brought it up. Some older Americans just trust the news too much.
As for me, I have had 2 signs torn down and 1 sign lit on fire. The police investigated that one because it could be considered a threat. Of course in Minneapolis our media is liberal biased and therefore isn't interested in giving that any airtime.
- cdahlkvist, on 10/21/2008, -3/+1Nice of you to spread the "kill him" story again even though it was shown that it never happened.
- schoondigg, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2Although I respect your pastafarian-ness (have you touched his noodly appendage?), it's sad to hear that you wouldn't display something in your yard as American as a political sign because of fear of retribution.
- vproman, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1It's not about changing someone's vote, it's about utilizing your right to free speech to express yourself by standing up for something you believe in.
I guess Rosa Parks shouldn't of sat in the front of the bus, because that left her open to retribution.
I know you didn't explicitly say that these kinds of actions are stupid, but your wording of signs/stickers = retribution without addressing the free speech aspect of it implies that.
- mgraham80, on 10/20/2008, -12/+156Just like rape victims invite assault for wearing short skirts.
- KevekKerinth, on 10/20/2008, -7/+268Though I don't overly care for political signs or bumper stickers one way or the other, I think it's sad that people who probably spout off multiple sayings praising America don't respect some of the country's core tenants...
freedom or speech and religion both come to mind.- toetagger, on 10/21/2008, -11/+41The right doesn't give a ***** about our constitution, they're fascists who use violence to get their way.
- Monk22, on 10/21/2008, -26/+11you mean like when democrats tried to keep black kids from going to school? or when they filibustered the civil rights bill?
- JoeMondo, on 10/21/2008, -7/+36"you mean like when democrats tried to keep black kids from going to school? or when they filibustered the civil rights bill?"
Those were the Dixiecrats who became Republicans when the Democrats, who left the party to become Republicans.
So they have nothing to do with the current Democratic party - but some to do with the GOP. - krahzee, on 10/21/2008, -3/+15Your assumption about the Right as a whole is no different than the Right's assumption that everyone on the Left stands for weakening the security of this country in the name of being politically correct (profiling in airports based on race, securing the border with Mexico, etc..).
I have news for you, not everyone on the Left or the Right agrees with their own party on every issue. the ones with balls say so publicly. Unfortunately, neither side has had may people with a set for some time now. - Wahoo06, on 10/21/2008, -20/+4Then you might be interested to hear that the McCain/Palin campaign bus was shot at by a .22 caliber weapon.
http://www.sacunion.com/mark/?p=67
Sounds like the left is plenty fond of using violent methods to make their points too. - gwtgator, on 10/21/2008, -0/+13never happened.
- t0x2c, on 10/21/2008, -2/+12I like how that blog, and websites that link to that blog, are the only source of that event ever happening.
- Keggluneq, on 10/21/2008, -1/+12"Then you might be interested to hear that the McCain/Palin campaign bus was shot at by a .22 caliber weapon."
Sure, and I have a bridge to sell you in Alaska.
- Elderon, on 10/21/2008, -4/+24There is still a large portion of the population that believes in Freedom of speech and religion ... as long as they are the same as mine.
people need to grow up (the people writing death threats)- Quenlin, on 10/21/2008, -0/+3I don't think I need to grow up, I'm killing you tomorrow!
Kidding of course, I completely agree.
- Quenlin, on 10/21/2008, -0/+3I don't think I need to grow up, I'm killing you tomorrow!
- jrchin, on 10/21/2008, -2/+20Tenets, not tenants.
- aadyss, on 10/21/2008, -5/+2Like the man who attacked a woman supporting McCain. WHAT?? This never happens, does it?
Liberal outrages, attacks etc. NEVER!!
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-supporter-assau ... - schoate09, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1I think it's dependent on where you live. Here in South Jersey, no one bothers me about my Obama bumper stickers or lawn signs, but McCain signs get vandalized all the time. (the very few there are in this area).
- noprtyaff, on 10/21/2008, -4/+2Hmm, nothing here on ObamaBot.com regarding Bill Maher "joking" about Palin being shot as a reincarnated wolf.
"Maher offered up his violent fantasy on this past Friday's "Real Time" on HBO in the "Exit Strategy" segment, "
Amazing though, 300 million people in the U.S., and these two tickets are the best we can do: a moderate leftist McCain who wants to destroy conservatives leaving only neo-cons ( liberals ) and the socialist Obama and his many questionable radical associations.
We're Screwed '08
Have a nice day. - Gephoria, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2terrorists
- toetagger, on 10/21/2008, -11/+41The right doesn't give a ***** about our constitution, they're fascists who use violence to get their way.
- Olon97, on 10/20/2008, -10/+55They should accommodate the request... sort of.
Take down the yard signs, donate more $ to Obama (if not capped), and then spend the weekend in Indiana with the whole family door-to-door canvassing for Barack.- TxRevolutionary, on 10/21/2008, -0/+40I was thinking more along the lines of:
-Keep the signs up
-Call the police and give them the letters as evidence
-Make sure anyone who might have done it knows the police are involved
-Donate to downticket Democratic candidates (Obama has more than enough funds. Senate and House races need help. May I suggest Rick Noriega down here in TX?)
-Spend the weekend canvassing in Indiana with the family. - clsslc, on 10/21/2008, -1/+18I was thinking more along the lines of:
- Keep the signs up.
- Put like ten more signs up in the same yards.
- Donate more to the Obama campaign by buying t-shirts for everyone in the family, for each of the seven days a week (plus one for laundry day).
- Spend the weekend canvassing in Indiana with family.
- Put up a hand-made sign that says "McCain sucks!" - ChiaGod, on 10/21/2008, -0/+17I was thinking more along the lines of:
- Keep the signs up
- Set your driveway light to come on based on movement (if yours doesn't have a motion sensor it may be time to invest in one).
- Set a webcam on the inside of your window pointing to the sign w/ surveillance software running on the connected pc (snaps pics/video when there's a change in the pic eg: light comes on)
- Youtube! - LordVance, on 10/21/2008, -5/+8I was thinking more along the lines of:
- Keep the signs up
- Place a camera recording the signs
- Ditch the family and head to Vegas.
- "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" takes place.
- Come home and view the footage
- Accidentally the whole group of people I see vandalizing the sign while I'm gone. THE WHOLE THING! - t0x2c, on 10/21/2008, -16/+2I was thinking more along the lines of:
- Keep the signs up
- Blow up two huge towers
- Blame the terrorists
- ???
- Profit
Wait didn't we already do that? - bentrinh, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2I was thinking more along the lines of:
- Keep the signs up
- Set up auto turrent ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxBa5bQfTGc )
- Laugh at recording
- TxRevolutionary, on 10/21/2008, -0/+40I was thinking more along the lines of:
- veled, on 10/20/2008, -5/+57Yeesh... you'd think in Chicago there'd be too few Republicans to be that nuts this year...
- richbleak, on 10/21/2008, -3/+19Republicans go after the lowest scumbags they can find to fill their ranks. Their platform highlights hate, intolerance, greed, and religious zeal as being moral. It only stands to reason that the most extreme acts of douchebaggery would come to pass in their name.
- stopbrorape, on 10/21/2008, -5/+6That's right all republicans are evil horrible people. They eat babies and slap retarded people.
- fungalboom, on 10/21/2008, -2/+7@stop: metaphorically yes.
They use the platform of saving babies from abortions to garner support, but when the babies pop out and need a little something. They won't support child-care. Maternal leave is unpopular with them. While they encourage the pious poor not to have abortions, they call welfare for them and their children "Socialism", which is their Communism; caring for people ironically becomes something only the Reds would do.
And then elitism... I seriously feel bad when I meet caring people who believe in what the Republican Party is today, but I know they probably feel the same toward me. How could I ever vote for such Socialism. Giving up what I don't need so somebody else can have what they need, especially when I 'earned' that? Maybe I'm the fool. - cdahlkvist, on 10/21/2008, -1/+2"Their platform highlights hate..."
Did you read your own post? Talk about highlighting hate. - bullhead2007, on 10/21/2008, -1/+2^Not that I agree with generalizing people and being a hypocrite, but the Republican party has done nothing but appeal to hate and fear since Reagan left office.
- Batfishy, on 10/21/2008, -4/+12All my years living in Texas, I have heard more hatred for groups like gays, non-theists, pro-lifers, almost anything with the word "advocate" in it, planned-parenthood, even women, than any other kind of feelings like empathy or even kindness. When I ask Republicans why they are against gay marriage the response is something like "if they want to get married they should stop being gay". On poverty - "get a job" and "don't be poor" , on abortion rights - "murderer". They don't just run negative cam pains, they're against so many things that are, frankly, none of their business. Wedge issues. So that's what they mean.
- Kyan, on 10/21/2008, -1/+3So, if they are all hot about wedge issues, I say give them all wedgies!!!
- cdahlkvist, on 10/21/2008, -2/+1I'm a Republican and not all of us fit into your statement.
On gay marriages - Let them be gay and let them get married. It's no big deal to most of us.
On abortion - Yeah, I think it's wrong for me and I think it is wrong to everyone (on a core human basis - I'm not religious) but I also cannot dictate for others, nor do I know their reasons. I would never tell someone they are wrong for doing it since they are probably going through enough emotional issues from having it done. But I do believe they should be told all other options and educated on the process.
On being poor - Yes, get a job. Or get 2 jobs if you need to support your family. I worked full-time and went to college full time. I worked 2 jobs out of college just to make ends meet. Yeah, a lot of jobs pay poorly (understatement) so you may have to get a 2nd job.
I do not agree that I should have to give up my savings, or rather, not have a savings because I make enough money to support my family and someone else doesn't. That's called Socialism/Communism. - Batfishy, on 10/21/2008, -1/+2cdahlkvist
I have a job and 2 small contractor type jobs (I'm an accountant) and my husband works 60 hours a week. We aren't poor and, like you, have savings. However, I know people who are flat broke and doing their best. If you don't know anyone like that, then you just don't want to. If you do and don't care - shame on you.
I tend to be more concerned with others than you seem to be. It is in everyones best interest to care about the world around them. Get it?
You people keep throwing around the word "socialism" because you want to scare people. It does - the uneducated. Here's a news flash for you - our police and fire departments are already socialized. OMG! Some things simply have to be.
"I want my savings" - you sound like a spoiled little brat who doesn't want to share. Here's more news for you - we all have to pay to keep this country going. It's patriotic. Hiding from taxes is the opposite of patriotic. - cdahlkvist, on 10/21/2008, -2/+1*****:
While fire stations and police stations are socialized, they are not, by definition, a part of Socialism.
I never said I had a problem paying taxes. I hardly see it as being a "spoiled brat" when it comes to money that I earned. I should pay the same % of my income as anyone else. I should not, because I make more than you, have to pay an addition %.
See, if I make $200,000 and the tax rate is 36% then I am paying MUCH MORE than someone that is paying 36% on an income of $50,000. I don't have a problem with that. My problem is when you decide that $200,000 is more than I need (or deserve even though *I* worked for it and earned it) so I should have to pay 39% of my income instead.
That's called Socialism. Maybe you should read up on it. It is taking the money that I made and then redistributing it so that everyone is making the same amount of income. Socialism does not work.
What is the point of me working my job anymore? Instead, I might as well go out and get a job as a janitor. What's the drive for anyone to work hard when they are going to end up with the same rewards as someone who works a simple or menial job?
I can't believe you would consider someone that wants to keep what they have earned from their hard work a "spoiled brat".
Talk about Liberal Entitlement Syndrome. - mechnoch, on 10/22/2008, -1/+3Progressive Taxation =/= Socialism
You have more assets that are protected by the police, fire department and the military. If you own a business, your impact on domestic infrastructure is greater than someone who works a low-wage job. Simply taxing that income at the same rate is not necessarily enough to cover the protection of your assets and repair to domestic infrastructure. Pay your taxes and quit whining. - cdahlkvist, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1I pay my taxes. In fact, I'm fairly certain I paid more than the two of you combined last year (and will again this year).
So stop turning this into me not wanting to pay my taxes. The issue is that you want me to pay a higher percentage of taxes because I have more disposable income. I am already in a group that pays the majority of taxes in this country so I really don't think you have a leg to stand on when you tell me to go pay my taxes (which I do) and then tell me to pay more.
Here's an idea for you. There are many people with bigger TVs than me. They should have to cut them up and share the difference so we all have the same sized TV.
There was a kid born without any toes. I guess we should all cut off some of our toes to share with him.
Give me a break. Do you know why I don't want to pay a higher percentage of taxes than you? Because I spent 8 years of my life in college. I had to pay off the debt I incurred from my education. You, Joe Janitor, just dropped out of high school and took on the job of sweeping the halls. That cost you nothing yet you want me to subsidize your lifestyle to the equivalent of mine - while I incur the debt and do all the work.
I cannot see how anyone can possibly think that is fair.
So, go complete your education, get a better paying job and pay your fair share in taxes before you tell me I have to pay more. - Batfishy, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1"I pay my taxes. In fact, I'm fairly certain I paid more than the two of you combined last year (and will again this year)."
Your're an *****. - mechnoch, on 10/24/2008, -1/+2cdahlkvist, I'm in college, and I will have to pay off a mountain of debt when I'm done. I enjoy my lower rate of taxation on the meager income I'm able to bring in while I finish school. When I start making more than $250K per year, I'm not going to complain about paying a higher tax rate than poor college students and lowly janitors.
Get over yourself.
- sixgun, on 10/21/2008, -1/+5"Yeesh... you'd think in Chicago there'd be too few Republicans to be that nuts this year..."
Yeah, that's the problem, the one that are STILL voting republican were nuts to begin with. - preauxx, on 10/21/2008, -0/+4like squirrels scurrying to gather food in the final days before the inevitable winter: they are going to get crazier and more wild-eyed with every. single. day.
- mallio, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1Villa Park is in Dupage County, which tends to vote pretty republican. I should know, I grew up in Villa Park and still live close by. This is pretty scary stuff.
- richbleak, on 10/21/2008, -3/+19Republicans go after the lowest scumbags they can find to fill their ranks. Their platform highlights hate, intolerance, greed, and religious zeal as being moral. It only stands to reason that the most extreme acts of douchebaggery would come to pass in their name.
- thcanalichio, on 10/20/2008, -4/+188my girlfriend got a nasty note on her car - while it was parked at her elementary school where she's a teacher - because of her obama sticker. i'm sickened by the nuts and their irrational hate
- chaoswings, on 10/21/2008, -5/+10People are crazy. In an ideal world we would be able to say what we want but for obvious reasons we can't. I'll also never understand the need for people to broadcast their political affiliation with bumper stickers etc. You are just asking for trouble from screw balls.
- thcanalichio, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2it's just another form of free speech. use it or lose it!
- rpgmaker, on 10/21/2008, -2/+34Can someone tell me if this happened to Bush supporters... EVER? This is insane, how comes they react this way? We independents/democrats/undecided have to put up with the neocon propaganda, their mishandling of a war that shouldn't have been waged in the first place and the mishandling of domestic catastrophes without taking any radical measure.
I'm starting to think that if Obama gets to win the presidency this guys are going to protest, not 'cause of any electoral fraud (tho they may allege that) but just because they won't be happy with the outcome of the election.- andreo, on 10/21/2008, -1/+18Oh, I know the republican supporters won't be happy. I'm stocking up on popcorn and butter right now to enjoy the show. Heck, I may even take a few days off work, because I know it will be 24 hours worth of bitching and moaning at the very least.
- SSAG, on 10/21/2008, -2/+4Nice rhetoric.
http://www.thebeenews.com/news/story.php?story_id= ...
Two Portland men accused of tossing a Molotov cocktail at a family's John McCain campaign sign early Saturday morning were arraigned in Multnomah County Circuit Court Monday afternoon. - fucknuggets, on 10/21/2008, -7/+2i key ever car i see with a W04 sticker on it. there are still a bunch in my area.
- snowballrx7, on 10/21/2008, -5/+3way to take the high road *****
- cdahlkvist, on 10/21/2008, -3/+2SSAG: But that is about something happening to Republicans so the typical digg explanation is that it was "some anarchist nutjobs" or "it didn't really happen"
Digg - Home of the "Sweep the truth under the rug when it makes our party look bad" Liberals.
- SoulDrift404, on 10/21/2008, -3/+25The sad thing is, to them it IS rational. Obama is a threat (he's a terrorist, remember??) so this is acceptable behavior.
- thcanalichio, on 10/21/2008, -1/+2for the record, the note referenced "obama bin laden"
- sandbags, on 10/21/2008, -1/+7@rpgmaker :
Not to mention being made to look like an American hating terrorist lover any time you disagree. - dnasty27, on 10/21/2008, -0/+5It's this kind of ***** that's starting to make me dislike America... and I live in Illinois.
Like seriously how can someone be such a bigot. They founded America for freedom of speech but it's assholes like this that are trying to take it away. It just instills fear and it's sickening. - bumcheck, on 10/21/2008, -0/+5dugg for the girlfriend reference
- thcanalichio, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1she's real, i swarez!
- mirunit, on 10/21/2008, -1/+2"i'm sickened by the nuts and their irrational hate"
Welcome to the world? People all over the world hate things for reasons unknown to many. I would not be sickened by something that was obviously going to happen. Use it to leverage your cause if anything, sitting around stunned is a great way to be useless.
"It's this kind of ***** that's starting to make me dislike America"
Because there is no hate anywhere else in the world. At least when people get grumpy in the US of A there are not cars burning all over the capital city, I am looking at you Paris (FR).- thcanalichio, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2"i'm sickened by the nuts and their irrational hate"
- you're right, it is expected, i do accept it, and i do use it to inspire myself and others to actually DO something. doesn't change the fact that the whackos are bothersome, to say the least.
- thcanalichio, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2"i'm sickened by the nuts and their irrational hate"
- chaoswings, on 10/21/2008, -5/+10People are crazy. In an ideal world we would be able to say what we want but for obvious reasons we can't. I'll also never understand the need for people to broadcast their political affiliation with bumper stickers etc. You are just asking for trouble from screw balls.
- gravelocity, on 10/20/2008, -5/+152I have an Obama sign that I bring in my house at night. This morning I found that someone had put a McCain / Palin sign in my front yard. Now I'm freaked out that someone is gonna slash my tires or vandalize my house. The friend who gave me my Obama sign had her sign defaced with racial slurs and such. I can't wait for this to be over
- offrdbandit, on 10/21/2008, -1/+43Put up both just to screw with their heads.
- Kordras, on 10/21/2008, -0/+43Don't let them scare you; if they keep you from being you, they win.
- Narcowski, on 10/21/2008, -1/+37Similarly, my father put up a "Carolina is Obama Country" sign at his house, only to find it's ashes four hours later.
The profound fear some people have of Obama, and of free speech rights, is entirely beyond me.- offrdbandit, on 10/21/2008, -20/+1Driving around and setting campaign signs on fire actually sounds like a pretty fun thing to do - a lot better than trying to hit mailboxes with bricks at 45 mph.
- Narcowski, on 10/21/2008, -0/+7Noone should ever censor another's opinion.. I will continue to stand for their free speech rights even as they deny mine.
- col381, on 10/21/2008, -0/+10So put up another, and another and never stop.
- MixMastaKooz, on 10/21/2008, -0/+19We need to set some proper geeks on this problem: a cheap camera that doesn't have IR filters, several bright IR lights (invisible to the naked eye), maybe some motion detection, and a willingness to post these despicable assholes picture all over the internet!
- Lunarsight, on 10/21/2008, -0/+12Why stop with taking their picture?
Have it detect motion, and spray them with skunk musk should they make any sudden moves towards the sign.
- Lunarsight, on 10/21/2008, -0/+12Why stop with taking their picture?
- Wahoo06, on 10/21/2008, -13/+1Paranoid much? Someone puts a sign in your yard and you are afraid someone is going to do much more damage than put a couple small holes in your lawn, something you already did anyway. They do not have a legal right to do so, but come on.
- skinny01, on 10/21/2008, -0/+10Right, just like people hanging up nooses and burning crosses on lawns wouldn't think about actually doing something to somebody. It's just a yard, you burn on it yourself when you bbq right? It's about people showing that they'll invade your space and show malicious intent directed towards you and your property because of their beliefs.
- darkcthulhu, on 10/21/2008, -0/+8Put a night camera on your porch and send the video footage to the police.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/21/2008, -0/+10Perpetrators starting to sound like terrorists to me. Irony.
- notanidiot, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2Get a mean dog.
- mirunit, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2Where the hell do you people live? I realize there is alot of ignorant Obama hate, see "But hes a Muslim!" exhibit; but seriously - a sign in ashes? Defaced with racial slurs? Unfortunately I have yet to see any of this. Also, if it was not already obvious - this sort of stuff helps Obama as his aim is and should be centrist voters who are not nearly as one-sided, stupid or any other adjectives that may properly describe them.
"Perpetrators starting to sound like terrorists to me. Irony."
Usually that would be just about correct. When a minority of people want to persuade others and they have no intelligent means to do so, they usually revert to creating fear in people - however in America I see this working to a less extent than say Zimbabwe where burning your entire house would not be out of the question. - missingnoh4x, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1Now I feel ashamed since I planned to go out on mischief night and replace everyone's McCain signs. Not with malice or any threat, just as a prank.
Maybe I could swap all the signs on both sides. - fistulaspume, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2Obama signs are being stolen all over my town. Mine was stolen but they seemed to be okay with my choice for mayor.
- rrouse, on 10/21/2008, -0/+3Now image what it's like to Black in this country.
- DuggDowner, on 10/20/2008, -23/+238Typical cowardly McKKKain supporters.
- miamiflashfan, on 10/21/2008, -31/+10Speaking of the KKK, your own party has a Senator that was in fact a proud member of the KKK, Robert Byrd.
And you are ridiculing supporters who may possibly endorse the KKK, while your party voted elected a man who was formerly a MEMBER of the KKK?- mchisari, on 10/21/2008, -5/+19You act as if he still believes in those things.
Q: What has been your biggest mistake and your biggest success?
A: Well, it's easy to state what has been my biggest mistake. The greatest mistake I ever made was joining the Ku Klux Klan. And I've said that many times. But one cannot erase what he has done. He can only change his ways and his thoughts. That was an albatross around my neck that I will always wear. You will read it in my obituary that I was a member of the Ku Klux Klan. - miamiflashfan, on 10/21/2008, -8/+10Some things aren't just forgivable. He was partially responsible for the killings of blacks. I don't care if he no longer condones that kind of behavior, as society definitely doesn't, but that is an act that just cannot be forgiven.
- Monk22, on 10/21/2008, -5/+6dont forget they also passed the alcohol prohibition (that went well), filibustered the civil rights act, and tried to refuse entry to black students trying to go to school.....
- nimadude, on 10/21/2008, -7/+7We get it.. democrats have been bad in the past too... (politics is never perfect) but it is about choosing the lesser of two evils in this election, since 3rd party cannot realistically win yet.
- Monk22, on 10/21/2008, -5/+4and based on the things above id vote republican. i mean geez you guys are a bunch of racists. and not "we get it" since the dems love draggin up every republican misstep every chance you get, even when its completly off topic. ill continue bringing this ***** up over and over again till you realize THEY ARE ALL ***** YOU. where do you think the money for that new "bailout" pelosi wants is coming from? maybe Americans empty wallets? well thank you mastsa government for taking my money and then so graciously "bailing me out" instead of just not taking in the first place.
- miamiflashfan, on 10/21/2008, -5/+3I respect all of your opinions, I was just trying to show the hypocrisy of the OP.
- DuggDowner, on 10/21/2008, -1/+3I'm sure Byrd and McCain are bestest buds. McCain is always bragging about how he reaches across the aisle. I just didn't realize it was for a noose.
- geoffg, on 10/21/2008, -2/+3Lincoln = 1st ever Republican President = freed the slaves.
- mchisari, on 10/21/2008, -1/+2
I love how Republicans are still riding high on the one anti-racist thing they have under their belt from freakin' 140 years ago. - miamiflashfan, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2It's not a case from '140 years ago.' This racist man is in the Senate now, and is fourth in line to become president.
- mchisari, on 10/21/2008, -5/+19You act as if he still believes in those things.
- Lunarsight, on 10/21/2008, -2/+14Dugg - To be fair, it's not just the Republicans going after the Democrat signs.
There's one McCain/Palin sign in my neighborhood that's been destroyed many times over.- LordVance, on 10/21/2008, -1/+7This. In New Jersey I see defaced McCain signs all the time. Personally, I'm voting Obama - and judging from past elections the majority of New Jersey will vote Democrat with me. That said, it's ***** up when EITHER side does it; this isn't just a case of rednecks being racist, go to Trenton and you'll see plenty of racism on the other side of the fence too.
- DutchGuilder, on 10/21/2008, -7/+2How do you feel about cowardly Obama supporters physically attacking middle age female McCain supporters on the streets in New York?
http://gothamist.com/2008/10/18/mccain_supporter_a ...- argaen21, on 10/21/2008, -1/+3http://digg.com/politics/Jeff_Dorchen_Obama_Canvas ...
How do you feel about cowardly Mccain supporters physically attacking a random Obama canvasser in Wisconsin? - sx66gns, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1He was not a "Obama" supporter , he's pissed about the election in general , get your facts straight.
- argaen21, on 10/21/2008, -1/+3http://digg.com/politics/Jeff_Dorchen_Obama_Canvas ...
- HotSaucePanCake, on 10/21/2008, -1/+4I think accusations like this and hate references are only going to get worse. I think it is despicable. I think people like you are only going to open up a can of worms.
This election will set the country back 50 years. And im not talking about the economy. - shig, on 10/21/2008, -1/+1Typical? O RLY?
- betheturtle, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1YA RLY.
You asked for it.
- betheturtle, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1YA RLY.
- copcorocket, on 10/21/2008, -0/+3Good one! "McKKKain" haha.
But, seriously, this ***** is getting crazy. Someone is going to get hurt, it's just a matter of time. :(
- miamiflashfan, on 10/21/2008, -31/+10Speaking of the KKK, your own party has a Senator that was in fact a proud member of the KKK, Robert Byrd.
- elwior, on 10/20/2008, -6/+47 These lunatics are domestic terrorists, very angry at Obama because he has a relationship with a guy whom they they was a domestic terrorist?
- dagnome, on 10/20/2008, -5/+63Who would have thought that the free expression of political opinions would become death threats? And McCain CAN'T see that his campaign rhetoric is causing this? Blind, AND old.
- bestsoccerdog, on 10/21/2008, -25/+7Obama's campaign is causing just as much if not more, digg just isn't publicizing it because it would be anti-democrat. I've seen people rip off McCain signs, but that's perfectly ok since it's a McCain sign. Death threats go both ways, but you're only presenting one side of the argument. Maybe you need to open your eyes and stop drinking the kool-aid.
- dcollins, on 10/21/2008, -5/+9Stop drinking the kool-aid.....kool-aid......where have I heard that. Oh yea, its one of Bill O'Reilly's favorite sayings. Credibility Revoked....
- macweirdo42, on 10/21/2008, -4/+8Look, I am not aware of any death threats on the Obama side. Yes, sign vandalizing goes both ways, but you're ignoring the fact that this isn't mere vandalism, this is a threat of bodily harm.
- TrancePhreak, on 10/21/2008, -2/+3machweirdo, you missed out on the obama supporter terrorizing an old lady then. That's a step beyond threatening and actually doing the deed. Not to mention it was an old lady! Come on guys......
- tina61, on 10/21/2008, -5/+1Oh they know that their camp is causing this mess and they are letting them getting away with it. The United states is suppose to be the land of freedom but with all this racism happening everywhere it is really sicken. People should be able support whom ever they want to and put whatever sign ,wear or say whatever they want. The Government seems to have turn their backs and let them Repulbicans get away with a lot of things that they was told to stop doing. I Have been reading some of the things McCain/Palin rally followers are saying about what to do to Senator Obama and just let me say to them if they want to have a war in the United States let harm come to Anyone in the Obama family.
- bestsoccerdog, on 10/21/2008, -25/+7Obama's campaign is causing just as much if not more, digg just isn't publicizing it because it would be anti-democrat. I've seen people rip off McCain signs, but that's perfectly ok since it's a McCain sign. Death threats go both ways, but you're only presenting one side of the argument. Maybe you need to open your eyes and stop drinking the kool-aid.
- GhostyBoy, on 10/20/2008, -4/+60Sore losers.
- sodade, on 10/21/2008, -1/+13Sore losers that have faith in fairy sky gods, respond well to hate politics and tend to own guns.
- siszam, on 10/21/2008, -7/+3Wow Sodade, you're a bigot who doesn't believe in freedom of religion or the right to keep and bear arms. I'm an Obama supporters and I'm ashamed that someone like you is on the Democratic side.
- ch33sehead, on 10/21/2008, -1/+5He didn't say anything about taking away their freedom of religion or right to bear arms. He was pointing out the irony of how the people with the silliest beliefs tend to own more guns. You can be tolerant of someone and make fun of them at the same time.
Biatch. - betheturtle, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2SHAZAM!
- sodade, on 10/21/2008, -1/+13Sore losers that have faith in fairy sky gods, respond well to hate politics and tend to own guns.
- uncajoe, on 10/20/2008, -1/+180By placing death threats in a mailbox the federal government should investigate with both the FBI and the USPS.
Placing mail in a personal mailbox without postage is a violation of federal law too.
Just ask anyone whose ever passed fliers door to door.- xenuxenuts, on 10/21/2008, -5/+50Laws don't apply to republicans when a republican is in office.
- gixxer600, on 10/21/2008, -2/+4i hope they throw the book at them literally corner to the ***** eye dumb white trash
- mirunit, on 10/21/2008, -2/+1If only the FBI had nothing else to do right? No offense but the FBI has a finite number of people and would likely be overwhelmed if this stuff is highly prevalent. How about you exercise your 2nd Amendment rights against any idiot who would do you harm due to your political ideas?
- bjornski, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Because more violence will fix everything.
- fabkebab, on 10/21/2008, -24/+6It would be easy to try to take this idiotic act and try to weave it into some sort of larger conspiricy- Resist the urge people!!
- MischiefGirl, on 10/21/2008, -0/+15It's not a conspiracy but it's a death threat and as such it should be investigated by the police. This type of behavior is disgusting.
- fabkebab, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1Thats exactly what I am saying - I agree - It is a death threat but dont try to turn it into a conspiracy
- fabkebab, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1Thats exactly what I am saying - I agree - It is a death threat but dont try to turn it into a conspiracy
- MischiefGirl, on 10/21/2008, -0/+15It's not a conspiracy but it's a death threat and as such it should be investigated by the police. This type of behavior is disgusting.
- syrynus, on 10/21/2008, -8/+105I"ve had five Obama signs stolen or destroyed, five of them hand-drawn. I don't let my dog out in my front yard unless I'm with her, because I'm convinced these Rethugs wouldn't hesitate to hurt her.
Have you heard about the latest sick act? Some Rethugs shot a bear cub in the head, taped Obama signs on it and dumped it on a North Carolina college campus near Asheville.
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article ...- Phocion55, on 10/21/2008, -89/+13"Rethugs" are not out to get you. Take the tin foil hat off and stop reading the sensationalized Huffington Post crap.
- coyoteblue, on 10/21/2008, -1/+12When I dug you down, it went from 1 to -42.
Wow. - medfreak, on 10/21/2008, -0/+4There's a bug with the number of diggs / buries lately on the comments. I don't know why but sometimes I don't immediately see the correct number unless I digg or bury.
- coyoteblue, on 10/21/2008, -1/+12When I dug you down, it went from 1 to -42.
- Peekman, on 10/21/2008, -6/+27He had five of his own signs stolen / destroyed.......... I don't understand how reading has anything to do with that.
- Acre, on 10/21/2008, -15/+0"because I'm convinced these Rethugs wouldn't hesitate to hurt her." This is what hes talking about.....
- 11b1p, on 10/21/2008, -49/+3I stole four of them. Your dog defaced the other.
- vinigrette, on 10/21/2008, -4/+24That's so sad, they killed a bear cub.. a baby bear.. sicko jackasses. Wish I could open a can of whoopass on them. I could smash em with my heaviest purse.
- johndavidjack, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1Thanks for reading the news, it's just s shame you read something on digg (you probably didn't read the article actually), and condemn people...
Well, here's the explanation of the story:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_re_us/ob ...
-didn't kill the bear, wasn't politically motivated
- johndavidjack, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1Thanks for reading the news, it's just s shame you read something on digg (you probably didn't read the article actually), and condemn people...
- hillkiwi, on 10/21/2008, -1/+11Hopefully they catch the poachers, where I live that's a $50,000 fine - that'll hut anyones pocket book.
- johndavidjack, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1Hey *****, you realize they didn't shoot the bear cub, and it wasn't a political statement?
Here's the rest of the story you conveniently forgot to look into before you started throwing ***** around:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_re_us/ob ...
- Phocion55, on 10/21/2008, -89/+13"Rethugs" are not out to get you. Take the tin foil hat off and stop reading the sensationalized Huffington Post crap.
- Phocion55, on 10/21/2008, -46/+9Genius. Scour the Internet for stories of some sick person being an idiot, accuse him/her of being a Republican, and turn into a massive generalization that ALL Republicans are horrible human beings.
- Witchboy, on 10/21/2008, -5/+21Not all Republicans are horrible people. Most are decent. But there's a crazy fringe that honestly don't see on the left right now.
- Smaulz, on 10/21/2008, -4/+6Start reading the comments in this thread.
- sugarazor, on 10/21/2008, -4/+42Not all Republican voters are horrible human beings... but they do support horrible human beings.
- Monk22, on 10/21/2008, -11/+2you mean like Robert Byrd (D)? oh wait
- sugarazor, on 10/21/2008, -1/+6Sorry kiddo, you're not going to burn me with attacking the Democratic party seeing as I'm not particularly fond of them either. I have a love/hate relationship with Democrats - I love Obama, I love Hillary, but I could give two ***** about Pelosi and Reid. Their only saving grace with me is my hate/hate relationship with the Republicans.
But at least Byrd has had the courage to be a man and admit his mistakes over and over again. Unlike someone like Strom Thurmond who never apologized for his racism.
- MikeMitchell, on 10/21/2008, -4/+9NO NO NO, not all republicans, just the ones voting for McStain
:)- joand315, on 10/21/2008, -3/+3Colin Powell is a nice Republican.
- dn11, on 10/21/2008, -3/+9you "scour the internet" for stories of Obama supporters making death threats. you won't find them
- bjornski, on 10/22/2008, -0/+2Not all Republicans are horrible people, but most horrible people are Republicans.
Why is that?
- Witchboy, on 10/21/2008, -5/+21Not all Republicans are horrible people. Most are decent. But there's a crazy fringe that honestly don't see on the left right now.
- TPIP, on 10/21/2008, -3/+106If you think this is bad, apparently now some McCain supporters shot a black bear cub in the head and dropped its body on a campus with Obama signs stuck to its head. No, I'm not joking, I wish I were. Republican hate and racism is out of control--it's beyond appalling - http://tinyurl.com/6juqy3
- dirtypenguin, on 10/21/2008, -0/+9Wow, that needs to be it's own Digg submission if it's not already. That is disgusting. If they are found they need to be taken to Yosemite, tied to a tree, covered with honey, and have McCain signs jammed up their asses.
- mrseptic, on 10/21/2008, -0/+20It's only a matter of time before someone is killed.
- joand315, on 10/21/2008, -0/+6Here's the story:
http://digg.com/politics/Bear_found_dumped_on_Nort ...
as reported by the Citizen-Times in Asheville, NC
- joand315, on 10/21/2008, -0/+6Here's the story:
- johndavidjack, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1You realize they didn't shoot the bear cub, and it wasn't a political statement?
Here's the rest of the story you conveniently forgot to look into before you started throwing ***** around:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_re_us/ob ...
- poprocksandsoda, on 10/21/2008, -161/+12Sorry guys, but if you belive this is anything but someone on the Left trying to divide America through false racism you are ignorant. It is sad to see the race card getting pulled by the Democrats though. I guess anything to detract from Obama's inexperience.
- MikeMitchell, on 10/21/2008, -5/+33good one, idiot.
- NoCommies, on 10/21/2008, -6/+2What an extremely insightful and intelligent comment. Do you have any more pearls of wisdom to share with us today?
- floridiot2, on 10/21/2008, -4/+32You are the dumbest ***** ever. Where was the race card pulled?
- poprocksandsoda, on 10/21/2008, -24/+3Apparently you are a few MPH behind the curve.
- LordVance, on 10/21/2008, -1/+8A few MPH behind the curve? That doesn't even make ***** sense. Miles =/= Miles Per Hour. You can't be a unit of speed behind someone, you can be a distance behind someone. You can also be a ***** idiot. Why don't you go accidentally your mom.
- ChangeIsGood, on 10/21/2008, -1/+5*** More Things Overheard At A Recent McCain/Palin Rally ***
"the pickle jars full and i gotta poop ..."
**More things overhead at a recent McCain/Palin rally**
Honey, can I borrow your teeth. - NoCommies, on 10/21/2008, -6/+1"Apparently you are a few MPH behind the curve."
More like floridiot2 is:
Not the brightest crayon in the box.
Not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.
Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
- joshreed104, on 10/21/2008, -4/+28How is this even close to unbelievable? We've heard similar things shouted at McCain's rallies and we have it on video.
- Peekman, on 10/21/2008, -2/+13..............................................
- slearwig, on 10/21/2008, -3/+7If inexperience is an issue, then who are we to decide who is experienced?
If experience is a qualification for office then...what happened? - vinigrette, on 10/21/2008, -2/+13Yeah, because Palin is way more experienced... you know, shooting moose and stuff.
- NoCommies, on 10/21/2008, -3/+2And now she is gunning down donkeys!!!!
Palin 2012
- NoCommies, on 10/21/2008, -3/+2And now she is gunning down donkeys!!!!
- DrLuv, on 10/21/2008, -4/+13I wanted to write a long note telling you that you are an ignorant buffoon....then i would have gone on to call you a number of unsavory names. Then i thought better of sinking to your level.
I respect your right to an opinion...though i do disagree with it
Oh ***** it. I hate you. - thewhits, on 10/21/2008, -1/+6haha, you're an idiot.
- byronne, on 10/21/2008, -1/+11poprocksandsoda is a consistent troll. Don't feed him.
- gwayo, on 10/21/2008, -1/+3From the comment section under article:
"The Trib failed to mention that in at least one of the letters the homeowners were addressed as "N****** lovers."
False, eh? Rrrrright.
- MikeMitchell, on 10/21/2008, -5/+33good one, idiot.
- nasdbroker73, on 10/21/2008, -6/+28McWackos at their best. Sign of desperation.
- HotSaucePanCake, on 10/21/2008, -3/+1do you work at McDonalds?
- HotSaucePanCake, on 10/21/2008, -3/+1do you work at McDonalds?
- davidsakh, on 10/21/2008, -1/+66undermining freedom of speech with threats of violence is about as anti-American as you can get.
- TunaColada, on 10/21/2008, -1/+16As the past 8 years has shown.
- mrseptic, on 10/21/2008, -1/+17Ironically, these are the same idiots who scream "socialist" at the mere mention of Obama's name.
- Narcowski, on 10/21/2008, -3/+4I can't even begin to understand where they're coming from; Obama is a conservative by all accounts.
I wish Kuccinich (and Paul on the other side) would have made it through the primaries. - NoCommies, on 10/21/2008, -3/+1Socialist
- Narcowski, on 10/21/2008, -3/+4I can't even begin to understand where they're coming from; Obama is a conservative by all accounts.
- salter84, on 10/21/2008, -3/+10I would put more up... just to see what happens.
- rrife, on 10/21/2008, -1/+40This lady: http://www.wate.com/global/story.asp?s=9208825 is wanted for questioning.
- ChiaGod, on 10/21/2008, -0/+4Oh my god.... Never thought I'd hear Lenoir City, TN (pop. < 7k) mentioned in the news.... Figures it would be for this though.
- JessicaSarahS, on 10/21/2008, -0/+5If I saw that, I'd seriously have no problems vandalizing that. Sorry if that's not the "right thing" to do, but it's sickening.
- ChiaGod, on 10/21/2008, -0/+4Oh my god.... Never thought I'd hear Lenoir City, TN (pop. < 7k) mentioned in the news.... Figures it would be for this though.
- FreddieD, on 10/21/2008, -6/+24Holy crap that's horrible!
Don't they realize it's against the law to just put notes in people's mailboxes without affixing the proper postage??- smackjack, on 10/21/2008, -2/+3If they are writing death threats, they probably have little concern for the law.
- 4LI3ER70, on 10/21/2008, -6/+18Similar threats are occurring everywhere and are receiving little to no coverage. If McCain is so demanding of Obama to speak out and apologize for the actions of his supporters, then perhaps McCain should back up his own ideals.
Not trying to get dugg up, but I submitted an article early pertaining to the same threatening atrocities that need to addressed. Something needs to be done!
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ohio_Republicans ... - 223Sniper, on 10/21/2008, -19/+18Bring it mother *****, Ill introduce you to a few of my friends, Remington, Smith and Wesson.
- Ricemanstm, on 10/21/2008, -11/+5Lighten up Francis! You couldn't heat soup.
- Ricemanstm, on 10/21/2008, -11/+6Go back to playing Call of Duty.
- 223Sniper, on 10/21/2008, -6/+4ill aim for you first bitch.
- Ricemanstm, on 10/21/2008, -6/+2Uh huh. I'll be the red neck tea bagging your dead dumb ass.
- NoCommies, on 10/21/2008, -4/+2"ill aim for you first bitch."
Your political opinion will be taken seriously. NOT!!!!
- SSAG, on 10/21/2008, -9/+6I hear you tough guy. Just wait until after Obama gets elected. You'll be lucky to own a sharp stick.
- NoCommies, on 10/21/2008, -10/+3Errr, no you wont cause your sugar daddy is gonna take your guns away.
- Quenlin, on 10/21/2008, -1/+1Good. That should deal with the school shootings.
- Ricemanstm, on 10/21/2008, -1/+1That's a retarded argument. I'd prefer to be responsible for my family's safety as opposed to "outsourcing" it to someone else.
- SuperVepr308, on 10/21/2008, -3/+2I have asked this before but here goes again: Why would you snipe with a .223 (or the 5.56 for you NATO fans)? 7.62 or .338 would be much better.
- NeoNcP, on 10/21/2008, -1/+23shameful, sad, cowardly, gutless, ignorant, despicable
just a few adjectives that come to mind - akchrs, on 10/21/2008, -37/+4"Spare me the phony outrage" ~Barack Obama.
- Ricemanstm, on 10/21/2008, -47/+5Awww...waaaahhhhh. Same thing has been happening nation wide on both sides. The only difference is that it's only news when it happens to Obama supporters or Obama campaign offices. Sorry, learn to deal with it people.
- Peekman, on 10/21/2008, -2/+14i wanna see too.... don't keep these stories to yourself, Digg is a site for sharing...
Link Please :) - davidkshepherd, on 10/21/2008, -2/+10Please show us 1 case where this has happened with McCain signs. Where people have received death threats over McCain yard signs. Just 1, please.
- Ricemanstm, on 10/21/2008, -6/+4http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/21103 ...
http://glciii.wordpress.com/2008/10/13/black-mccai ... - Spiffjiggins, on 10/21/2008, -0/+3Ricemanstm. Truly pathetic. The first article does not mention one single threat to any human being. Just a .22 shot and paint ball shots in an unocupied dwelling. The second article makes no distinction as to why he received the death threats. Ian Johnson (an African American college football player) proposed to his then girlfriend on national tv and had to hire extra security for his wedding because she is white. Hell the Red Sox had to beef up security in their series with the Rays "due to a threatening letter sent to the team that singled out black & Latino players, which also mentions two specific players by name." So a black man getting on tv is more than enough to send hate mail and death threats, he could have been on that show talking about his love of kittens and Sunflowers and he STILL would have received death threats.
http://newsok.com/article/3091314
http://sportsbybrooks.com/red-sox-beefing-up-secur ...
- Ricemanstm, on 10/21/2008, -6/+4http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/21103 ...
- Ricemanstm, on 10/21/2008, -19/+6Happy to share peekman. It's these stories that don't front page on Digg.
http://www.heraldonline.com/109/story/877049.html
http://wmugop.blogspot.com/2007/12/college-republi ...
http://newsok.com/republican-party-headquarters-in ...
http://hobospring.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/mccain- ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1233242/p ...
http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? ...- JulyZerg, on 10/21/2008, -3/+14I don't see any death threats in those articles.
- frygar, on 10/21/2008, -4/+7Because they've been proven to be *****. Buried as false.
- fiatjustitia, on 10/21/2008, -1/+8valid examples of vandalism (whoever did them should apologize/clean it up/do a little community service), still no sign of death threats or mention of physical violence as clearly seen wit the current incarnation of the right wing.
- thomazzz021, on 10/21/2008, -2/+1exactly! i thought this was america! whats the big deal?
- Spiffjiggins, on 10/21/2008, -1/+10Ricemanstm, you fail. Miserably. Did you think for a moment that no one would read your links? The first article was about someone who spray-painted the words “Republican means slavery”. Pretty *****, but their kids are safe.
The 2nd article was a personal blog. Here's the deal, what is the proof that the person who has the blog did not vandalize the office themselves.
3rd says the republican office was vandalized. It does not state by who and no political statement was made. Could be anyone for any reason. There's no proof it wasn't you.
4th was only a sign (actually two). Again. Family safe.
5th I didn't even look at. Free Republic is about as credible as Fox News or The Inquirer.
6th was another spray painting incident. Childish. Wrong but not lifethreatening.
You falsely claimed "Same thing has been happening nation wide on both sides." Now are you implying spray painting buildings, damaging yard signs and breaking windows are equal to death threats or are there articles out there that back up your assertion? I think you're full of shiat but hey I could be wrong. Just post the articles that depict death threats from Obama supports towards Republicans so I can eat some crow. Thanks! - CrossCanyon, on 10/21/2008, -0/+7Ok, thanks. And the death threats?
- Peekman, on 10/21/2008, -2/+14i wanna see too.... don't keep these stories to yourself, Digg is a site for sharing...
- MikeMitchell, on 10/21/2008, -8/+10GETTUR DONE!
- welliwonder, on 10/21/2008, -6/+85and at that Sarah Palin rally someone was yelling, "Kill that *****!"...
How could anyone vote for people who instill such hate?
:-(- runCMD, on 10/21/2008, -13/+5Precisely what I was thinking after reading some of the posts here targeted at Obama's dissenters. :(
- bluerei, on 10/21/2008, -23/+6Yeah cause Palin was chanting those exact words *roll eyes*
- Ymeg, on 10/21/2008, -3/+5source?
- mrhaasguy, on 10/21/2008, -13/+5"Instill such hate?" So, it's McCain and Palin's fault for the fact that there are racist people in this country?
- Narcowski, on 10/21/2008, -6/+8The fact that they attract such people, on the other hand, IS their doing.
- uppitydiggers, on 10/21/2008, -2/+3@Narcowski
Yeah, how dare they be white and running against a black candidate. Racists will vote on race first and foremost, not issues. - mrhaasguy, on 10/21/2008, -2/+1Oh, I'm sorry Narcowski, you're completely right. It's all McCain/Palin's fault; if they just weren't so darn white, they wouldn't be attracting those racists...
- Cuongfu, on 10/21/2008, -1/+4It's not that McCain / Palin instill the hate.. It's that they don't do anything to stop it.. They let it sit there and grow until it's almost uncontrollable.
- Jpesci, on 10/21/2008, -1/+5McCain once said talking to enemies without preconditions would be like accepting that what they've done isn't wrong.
Just the same, not outright condemning what's being said at these rallies, (for the most part, especially with Palin), by the same logic, is accepting that what they are saying isn't wrong.
- uppitydiggers, on 10/21/2008, -3/+10LOL...oh yeah, that incident. The one that the secret service investigation called completely unfounded. Thanks for bringing that up. The media's work is paying off.
Barely a mention of that resolution to a "situation" that was the lead story on every media outlet. - SSAG, on 10/21/2008, -9/+3Actually, you added the n----- part on your own. And it was a hoax anyway. But ignorant voters like you are the bread and butter of the democrat party.
- spriggig, on 10/21/2008, -4/+17Try to find a similar example of Obama supporters hating. I don't think you will. The GOP made this bed, now they gotta sleep there.
- dn11, on 10/21/2008, -2/+5there were some "hurtful t shirts" at some Obama rallies according to McCain... which is the equivalent of death threats towards Obama and his supporters.
- SSAG, on 10/21/2008, -1/+3http://www.thebeenews.com/news/story.php?story_id= ...
Two Portland men accused of tossing a Molotov cocktail at a family's John McCain campaign sign early Saturday morning were arraigned in Multnomah County Circuit Court Monday afternoon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI - Rachy88, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.vie ...
- fuzzyburger, on 10/21/2008, -12/+5The united sates of american is more ***** up than *****.
- Scopitone, on 10/21/2008, -0/+70"Real Americans" strike again!
- darkcthulhu, on 10/21/2008, -1/+1or "Pro-America" Americans even.
- St0rmShad0w, on 10/21/2008, -0/+19Put up a new sign, with "Protected by" and a 12 guage shell taped there.
- fiatjustitia, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1I think one of the most amusing aspects to the twisted, disconnected right wing frame of mind is the assumption that all liberals are wimps who take no measures whatsoever to protect themselves.
- johndavidjack, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1And for the most part it's true...
- vertigo32, on 10/21/2008, -1/+0One of my neighbors had a similar problem with their signs being vandalized.
They made a new one that says - "NRA Members for Obama / Biden". So far it hasn't been vandalized...- SuperVepr308, on 10/21/2008, -2/+2There are no true NRA members that support Bofana/Biden. If there are any that claim to be, Wayne should refund their money and revoke their membership cards.
- fiatjustitia, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1I think one of the most amusing aspects to the twisted, disconnected right wing frame of mind is the assumption that all liberals are wimps who take no measures whatsoever to protect themselves.
- LedgerFangirl, on 10/21/2008, -38/+6oh big deal, mccain was tortured for 5 1/2 years
- JulyZerg, on 10/21/2008, -1/+19oh big deal, America has been tortured for 8 years
- ZWash300, on 10/21/2008, -0/+5The P.O.W. years have nothing to do with this. Of course that service to the country is honorable. But it seems as though you're saying that Obama and his supporters deserve to suffer just because they haven't been through the same thing...
It's funny though , you would think McCain, having been through that, would never allow such hateful, violent words to be yelled at his rallies.
- crazyhorse1972, on 10/21/2008, -27/+1If people are offended by the signs, then they should remove them. The signs are uglying up neighborhoods. They're really tiring.
- dbs1221, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1people pay for signs so it isn't exactly stealing them is doesn't cost either party.
- Khast, on 10/21/2008, -8/+24Personally, I think anyone who acts in this way, should be labeled as a terrorist...and dealt with accordingly.
Thank you McKKKain for your contributions to our racism in America....your campaign is about the most hateful, racist assholes you can be....YOU are what is wrong with America...and it is time that America took out the trash.- runCMD, on 10/21/2008, -2/+2LOL Khast. Just read your hate filled post again - and tell me how McCain is the problem ?
- Khast, on 10/21/2008, -2/+5At least I don't go around blathering death threats, and using racial slurs. If someone is so hateful that they need to go out and issue death threats for something so little as a campaign sign....they need to be taken out of the system, and put into a place where they belong...either a mental hospital, or a concentration camp for terrorists. The McKKKain campaign pulls all of it's steam by playing on our racial fears, and that is a problem which needs to be addressed.
This is the 21st century, and it is high time that the racism card was finally pulled out of the deck, and thrown into the garbage where it belongs. Red, Yellow, Black, and White....all skintones have one thing in common.. WE ARE ALL PEOPLE...no race is better, and no race is worse...it shouldn't even be a factor. - bluerei, on 10/21/2008, -1/+2The problem is, you're labeling McCain as the racist. Not all of his followers are racists- which you could easily pull on the Obama supporters. Rev. Wright anyone? There are those kinds everywhere. Don't be so ignorant and stupid like those hillbilly racists themselves to label the McCain campaign as racist, just like I know the Obama campaign isn't racist.
- Khast, on 10/21/2008, -3/+3If McCain can't keep control over his people, and when they are chanting "kill him, kill him" ect....he is no better than the animals he has as followers. Most of the times, he eggs on his followers... anything for that elusive vote, eh? How about his nice little robocall stunt.... yeah...he himself might not have said such things, but he endorses it.
- bluerei, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1That's like saying Kevin Rose can control everyone here on Digg as far as what they say and post. Everything you said can easily be said about Obama, but to say he endorses it would sound ignorant and asinine, wouldn't it? Guessing you haven't read any of the comments here on Digg. Much worse has been said here on Digg than what you say the people were chanting, but *shh* we dont talk about those things...
- Khast, on 10/21/2008, -2/+5At least I don't go around blathering death threats, and using racial slurs. If someone is so hateful that they need to go out and issue death threats for something so little as a campaign sign....they need to be taken out of the system, and put into a place where they belong...either a mental hospital, or a concentration camp for terrorists. The McKKKain campaign pulls all of it's steam by playing on our racial fears, and that is a problem which needs to be addressed.
- runCMD, on 10/21/2008, -2/+2LOL Khast. Just read your hate filled post again - and tell me how McCain is the problem ?
- armakaryk, on 10/21/2008, -1/+9you know, its a federal crime to put anything but certified mail inside a mailbox.
- Monk22, on 10/21/2008, -0/+3i hadnt gathered that by the 50 posts above stating the same thing.
- sfour, on 10/21/2008, -1/+6There should be a button for when someone puts a death threat in the mail box it reads aloud back to them.
- famousmccoy, on 10/21/2008, -15/+3This is not news. It is irrelevant. It is one incident. One suburb. One coward posting a note on a senior citizen's property. Let's talk real news like administration and DOJ collusion with the McCain campaign to foster a bogus issue involving Obama, ACORN and voter fraud. This is corruption at the highest level-
- browwiw, on 10/21/2008, -4/+12Republicans and other violent miscreants are why this particular Democrat has a concealed carry handgun license. Bring it on, hillbillies. I'm the better shot.
- Bloodwine, on 10/21/2008, -2/+3Simmer down. You're safe. Most violent crime committed by rural whites are domestic in nature.
- browwiw, on 10/21/2008, -11/+3Oh, shut the ***** up you limp wristed metrosexual mouthpiece. I am a rural white and I know what drunk hillbillies are capable of. Now go back to living safely in your homogeneous suburban nosebleed nightmare.
- Bloodwine, on 10/21/2008, -2/+6I live in the midsouth, the land of farms and factories. Most violent crime around here are guys killing their wives (then themselves) or their entire families. It's rare to have out-of-family violence around here.
If you are around a lot of drunken hillbillies, then you might want to find better hangouts.
For someone quick to call others violent, you seem to be dripping impotent rage. - jasonduck, on 10/21/2008, -2/+5its rare to have out of family sex too....
- browwiw, on 10/21/2008, -1/+1Trust me, *****, my rage is quite potent.
- dagr8tim, on 10/21/2008, -6/+1That comment made you sound like an inbreed hillbilly (which knows no political party). Here you are threatening innocent people who have made no violent moves towards you.
BTW, I'm pretty damned shot, and with more than just a pistol. Don't start a pissing contest. - SSAG, on 10/21/2008, -6/+4Get ready to hand over the gun when your messiah gets elected. They're already cancelling CWFL in democratic districts.
- browwiw, on 10/21/2008, -2/+1***** GOP/NRA propaganda.
- SSAG, on 10/21/2008, -1/+3You liberals are full of lies. Don't know how the hell you live with yourselves.
http://www.publicradio.org/columns/kpcc/kpccnewsin ...
Orange County sheriff Hutchens revokes concealed weapons permits
- johndavidjack, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Oh wow, you got a gun, and you make an effort to sound big and bad; we're so scared!!!
- Bloodwine, on 10/21/2008, -2/+3Simmer down. You're safe. Most violent crime committed by rural whites are domestic in nature.
- Gonendunit, on 10/21/2008, -20/+1
- JavanSClark, on 10/21/2008, -1/+5Reported.
Contrary to what you and the other White Nationalist morons believe... this nation was never intended to be a White Male Christian dominated society.
Contrary to what you and your other Christian Right friends believe, it was the Right that brought the biggest Socialist policy to America. One Trillion Dollars to Nationalize our financial system.
Contrary to conventional wisdom, or any common sense, your parent allowed you to waste perfectly good air.
(Lastly)
Contrary to what you believe about yourself, you are nothing more than a punk ass keyboard warrior, who will do nothing but tell lies to 12 year old girls about how you are a warrior for the Republican Party and the "White Race" hoping they don't know enough to know better than to associate with an asshat like you.
Good riddance loser enjoy your ban, idiot.- neuroticfish, on 10/21/2008, -2/+1I smell patchouli.
- JavanSClark, on 10/21/2008, -1/+5Reported.
- toetagger, on 10/21/2008, -1/+10It's matter for the FBI to investigate because a federal mailbox was used. In other words, nothing will happen.
- AtomicPC, on 10/21/2008, -29/+4Obama and his supporters have gone and made me look for a digg filter for greasemonkey. I swear if I hear one more thing about retarded obama and his retarded supporters I'm going to shoot someone. but for real shut up.
- LedgerFangirl, on 10/21/2008, -11/+2lol finally a fellow non-moonbat
- Oranqe, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1We could always look at the articles about Pallin and McCain getting left on his campaign bus over night?
- LovelyNotes, on 10/21/2008, -2/+60Anyone else worried Obama will win, then get assassinated by one of these racist, crazy asshats?
- CrossCanyon, on 10/21/2008, -0/+28Not worried. Terrified.
- HotSaucePanCake, on 10/21/2008, -11/+1I'm more worried he will open up the flood gates to the rest of the world.
- gwayo, on 10/21/2008, -0/+1I think about someone at least trying...all the time. But it's odd; I have peace that God is truly going to protect him--because it's not just about him.
I know, why then did God not protect MLK? Well, it was actually a miracle that he lived so long--and he knew it was going to happen and was at peace, that his work was done. He was afraid for a long time but if you listen to his sermon the night before...well, it's amazing. I'm babbling here. But I wanted to say that attempts are normal--and more often than not, it doesn't work. Bottom line: pray.
- slearwig, on 10/21/2008, -0/+3Somebody ought to shoot the perps with a camera and post the pics.
Imagine that sick, twisted look on their faces when they pull this stuff
and get caught by the flash. - Bloodwine, on 10/21/2008, -22/+5Are we 100% sure these are people aren't doing it to themselves out to seek attention?
This story reminds me of the Jewish woman who made national news when her car was vandalized by having swastikas etched all over it. Later they found that she did it herself.
I'm not saying these people are liars, but people seem so anxious to jump on the bandwagon and cry, "racism against obama and his supporters" or "that's why they are called rethuglicans", etc. - gfryesc, on 10/21/2008, -20/+6Hey what about that guy that had his car defaced because of his mccain sticker:
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/10/18/3934 ...
Or all the petty vandalism at GOP offices around the country:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122384581686626811 ...
so please grow up, suck it up, and man the f up. politics is a rough business. stop your whining, huffpo disciples.
Jerks.- Alphabet, on 10/21/2008, -1/+7death threats > vandalism
- MSUKate, on 10/21/2008, -0/+3Uh, I think a death threat is a bit more serious that vandalism. Don't get me wrong, I think vandalism is bad, but to threaten to kill someone over a *sign* is completely retarted.
- Spiffjiggins, on 10/21/2008, -0/+2Hey gfryesc "Are we 100% sure these are people aren't doing it to themselves out to seek attention?
This story reminds me of the Jewish woman who made national news when her car was vandalized by having swastikas etched all over it. Later they found that she did it herself.
I'm not saying these people are liars, but people seem so anxious to jump on the bandwagon and cry, "racism against obama and his supporters" or "that's why they are called rethuglicans", etc."
- macweirdo42, on 10/21/2008, -5/+34Hate to defend McCain, but let's face it - even if Jesus Christ himself were running against Obama, you'd still be seeing this. Let's face it - there are still a bunch of hateful, stupid, violent bigots in this country who have, let's face it, been drawn out of the woodwork by nothing more than Obama's mere presence in this presidential race.
Honestly, I can't help but notice that both sides seem to dodge the issue - Obama supporters want to blame McCain, and McCain supporters want to say it's not limited to one side. I think both of those interpretations are wrong, and I think they may reflect the larger issue - that we honestly don't want to talk about it. I think, after all these years, after Civil Rights and everything, nobody wants to say "Racism is still alive and well in this country." I don't blame anyone - it was a nasty chapter in our country's past, and it would be nice to think that it's over and done with. Unfortunately, this race is showing that it might not be as dead as we would like, and I think, regardless of the outcome of this election, we need to sit down as a nation and address this issue.- uppitydiggers, on 10/21/2008, -1/+5"Let's face it - there are still a bunch of hateful, stupid, violent bigots in this country who have, let's face it, been drawn out of the woodwork by nothing more than Obama's mere presence in this presidential race."
Damn you and your common sense.
"nobody wants to say "Racism is still alive and well in this country."
This I'll disagree with you on. There are a number of people who make a wonderful living pushing this exact message.
"this race is showing that it might not be as dead as we would like"
Nope, it's not. Then again, we're only 40 years removed from centuries of racism being an openly accepted way of life in this country. Not nearly the amount of time that it takes to erase something that was that ingrained in society. However, to d
- uppitydiggers, on 10/21/2008, -1/+5"Let's face it - there are still a bunch of hateful, stupid, violent bigots in this country who have, let's face it, been drawn out of the woodwork by nothing more than Obama's mere presence in this presidential race."


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