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Obama is Winning Every Metric – Don’t Believe the Hype
eyesonobama.com — Is Obama really losing by the Electoral College metric? If you look at the 16 most competitive contests of 2004, he actually has won MORE delegates than Hillary Clinton. What ’s more, her margin of victory was 6.7%, and his was 20.7% on average.
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- DiggLive, on 04/27/2008, -87/+23http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/A ...
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps ...
He's not going to win the general election.- buryhillary, on 04/27/2008, -23/+34Sooo......you just copy and paste this ***** under every Obama article? I believe so...I checked....Well your favorite candidates on your profile are McCane and Billary. Hillary is a Republican. Can't we have a Democrat?That just says it all. Anyways, Obama 08!
- dan.stryker, on 04/27/2008, -21/+9Do you just paste the same reply in your comments? I've checked, and you do!
- ObamaWins08, on 04/27/2008, -22/+9Dude, all pro-Obama peeps come in and artificially digg Positive Obama articles...don't be a hypocrite
- Tenlow, on 04/27/2008, -11/+18How is it artificial to digg an article about the candidate you support?
- masterm1nd, on 04/27/2008, -13/+6Because you know most of its ***** but digg it anyway because consequentially you think Obama08 would be a good thing.
- rand0mm0nkey, on 04/27/2008, -9/+3Or the least icky anyway.
- Tenlow, on 04/27/2008, -11/+18How is it artificial to digg an article about the candidate you support?
- allthosemoments, on 04/27/2008, -9/+4Your sn is buryhillary, so you just set it up to troll Hillary supporters? Fail.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -4/+1These 500 people on Digg who think Obama is a King do this on every site. Not just here. He will need to get the middle to win. 25% are Die-Hard Dem's and will vote for any Dem. Same with Republicans. 25% will Vote for anyone who was picked. The people in the middle are 50% of the Votes. You have to get them to win. The problem for Obama is out of the 50% of those people 40% are "TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE" and he pissed them off.
- dan.stryker, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1Amen!
- allthosemoments, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3I agree. Isn't it ironic that Obama said most white people are racist like his grandmother, but if someone suggests that being black may mean he is unelectable then it is racist? Someone else making the same observation as Obama is racist apparently.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -4/+1These 500 people on Digg who think Obama is a King do this on every site. Not just here. He will need to get the middle to win. 25% are Die-Hard Dem's and will vote for any Dem. Same with Republicans. 25% will Vote for anyone who was picked. The people in the middle are 50% of the Votes. You have to get them to win. The problem for Obama is out of the 50% of those people 40% are "TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE" and he pissed them off.
- LeeSoong, on 04/27/2008, -1/+7obama - getting the ron paul treatment from the system.
- opticwind, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6Yes, anyone with the name "buryhillary" is clearly an objective source on who is bias.
- darkism, on 04/28/2008, -1/+2Dugg for McCane. i lol'd
- Gabberwok, on 04/27/2008, -10/+21That's a little misleading. That website includes polling data from states that are within error. Clinton is only doing better than Obama if you include "Barely Dem" in addition to "Weak Dem" and "Strong Dem", and looking at the data most of those states give her less than a 3% advantage over McCain, so she's really tied. With a huge fundraising advantage over McCain, Obama could probably win over most of those "Barely Republican" states.
Here are the comparisons depending on how conservative you are with your state predictions... (Democrat - Republican - Toss up)
Include "Barely" states:
. Obama: 243-269-26 Clinton: 284-244-10 (Advantage Clinton by 41 EV, Obama loses to McCain, Clinton beats McCain)
Exclude "Barely" states:
. Obama 202-172-164 Clinton: 182-231-125 (Advantage Obama by 20 EV, Obama beats McCain, Clinton loses to McCain)
Exclude "Weak" states:
. Obama: 89-134-202 Clinton: 74-131-225 (Advantage Obama by 15 EV, both Democrats lose)- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1I don't care how much money Obama has. He could never get me to vote for him. If he was going to give me $1000.00 I still wouldn't vote for him.
"TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE" will never Vote for a BLACK RACIST!
Only 90% of the Blacks and DUMB WHITE PEOPLE.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1I don't care how much money Obama has. He could never get me to vote for him. If he was going to give me $1000.00 I still wouldn't vote for him.
- buhbyebot, on 04/27/2008, -14/+4You're a ***** idiot.
- dan.stryker, on 04/27/2008, -16/+9Excellent point DiggLive, he doesn't have a chance in the general without FL and OH. By the way, did he win those primaries???
- eibborjames, on 04/27/2008, -4/+4He did not campaign in Florida dip *****.
- jbenson2, on 04/27/2008, -6/+4Irrelevant - a loss is a loss and the O-man lost in Florida
- ricperry1, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2It's not irrelevant. Although Florida is most likely to go to McCain regardless of who is the democrat nominee, I think Obama has a lot better opportunity with his fund raising prowess than Hillary. Not only that, but with the powerhouse of funds, he should be able to turn the tide of misinformation about him... for instance, most Floridians not believing Obama to be a Christian. Florida Republicans have already proven themselves to be fairly stubborn, and are not likely to be swayed from voting for John McCain.
- lhbaker, on 04/27/2008, -8/+42I don't get it. 81% of Americans feel that the country is headed in the wrong direction, but McCain can win the election. This is what George Bush calls 'fuzzy math.'
- rpgmaker, on 04/27/2008, -8/+5That's what I'm thinking. I suppose that the Republican party has too many citizens registered so they just go with the flow of the party.. and even that way I can't get my head around that possibility.
- Dewhead, on 04/27/2008, -5/+9Bush isn't running in this election. Just because Bush and McCain are both in the same party that doesn't make them the same. If that were the case, then you would have to say the Hillary=Obama since they are both democrats.
- youareretarded, on 04/27/2008, -8/+6When McCain says he is going to follow similar bush policies like economic and military policies how is he not another bush?
- Dewhead, on 04/27/2008, -5/+9Bush isn't running in this election. Just because Bush and McCain are both in the same party that doesn't make them the same. If that were the case, then you would have to say the Hillary=Obama since they are both democrats.
- ObamaWins08, on 04/27/2008, -8/+7No, it's called piss-poor effort by the Democratic party.
The President has the lowest approval rating in 70 years.
The economy is in the toilet.
We're fighting a war that won't end anytime soon, with a large loss of US life.
International tensions are high, and we have lost most of our Global respect and trust.
Our freedoms are being eroded on a daily basis.
All that, and the Republicans might still win this election.
Can somebody please explain that to me. Don't blame ignorant voters, like I said, this is piss-poor effort and execution by the national Democratic Party.- Dewhead, on 04/27/2008, -5/+7The democrats have had control of congress and they have shown that they aren't interested in moving America forward or for "change" but only interested in trying to undermine and sabotage our president. Bush has low approval ratings but congress's is worse. The DNC can't even figure out to pick a candidate--so alot of people are beginning to question whether or not democrats can run the country. This should have been a slam dunk for the dems.
- pintomp3, on 04/27/2008, -4/+5the democrats don't have enough of a majority to override bush's veto. the congress historically has a low ratings. the current has a low approval rating because they aren't stopping bush. congressional democrats score higher in the ratings than congressional republicans.
- ShadowMerchant, on 04/27/2008, -4/+3It should be obvious by now that the Democrats can't run a paper route, much less a modern nation. Pelosi and Co. have the most pathetic and paltry record of accomplishment of any Congress in my lifetime.
- fmaxwell, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3That they have been able to prevent Republican initiatives from going through makes them very valuable. First contain the Republican threat to America and then start stamping it out.
- youareretarded, on 04/27/2008, -3/+3You haven't been paying attention to all the sound bites the media has been focusing on;)
The fact is Americans are lazy, critical thinking requires work and not just watching and relying on 20 second sound bites to get their information. - SwordofKahless, on 04/27/2008, -8/+3It is not the effort but the fact that the economy is in the toilet like you said and people are hurting. The solution being offerred by the Democrats is to raise taxes on the working class in blatant disregard of these facts. If Obama campaigned on smaller government, lowering taxes and getting us out of Iraq he probably would be way ahead of McCain in the polls for the general election.
- youareretarded, on 04/27/2008, -4/+5Do you have any links siting a raise in taxes for the middle class? Or is that just an assumption because of their health care policy?
- p0s3r, on 04/27/2008, -5/+5Raising capital gains taxes affects 100M Americans. Both Dem candidates want to raise capital gains taxes. I don't think that those 100M Americans are all the upper 1%.
- FairDinkumMate, on 04/27/2008, -3/+8You're as bad as the MSM. I note you didn't say that 100M Americans make capital gains tax deductions, rather you used the term affects. Would you like to explain this figure? I can help if you like - you are making the ASSUMPTION that increasing capital gains tax rates(to levels still well below the marginal tax rate for the VAST majority of those claiming) would encourage those wealthy individuals & corporations that mostly pay this tax to increase rental rates to make it up, thus counting low income rent paying families as being 'affected' by an increase in capital gains taxes - WHAT A CROCK! The problem with this theory is(& here is where the 'market forces' people kill their own argument) that rents are a market & prices are therefore set by supply & demand - not direct costs to the owner of the property. In fact, some economists argue that increasing CGT would reduce rents as housing sales prices drop(which I guess isn't really an issue right now anyway) to rates not influenced by the tax deductability of low rent differentials encouraging more people to buy a home & reducing demand on the rental market
- Dewhead, on 04/27/2008, -5/+7The democrats have had control of congress and they have shown that they aren't interested in moving America forward or for "change" but only interested in trying to undermine and sabotage our president. Bush has low approval ratings but congress's is worse. The DNC can't even figure out to pick a candidate--so alot of people are beginning to question whether or not democrats can run the country. This should have been a slam dunk for the dems.
- masterm1nd, on 04/27/2008, -4/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well .
- opticwind, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Just because you don't suppose Bush, it doesn't mean you can't still support the Republican party.
- rpgmaker, on 04/27/2008, -8/+5That's what I'm thinking. I suppose that the Republican party has too many citizens registered so they just go with the flow of the party.. and even that way I can't get my head around that possibility.
- fmaxwell, on 04/27/2008, -3/+10How can you be so incredibly stupid? Let me count the ways:
1. You believe that it's possible to predict, state by state, a general election that's half a year off based on polls.
2. You believe that picking results from multiple polls conducted in different manners with different questions and sampling methods is a valid statistical method.
3. You believe that the results of the election in 2004, when Kerry ran against Bush, are somehow a predictor of how Hillary or Obama would do against McCain in 2008. Different candidates, different issues, lower approval rating for Bush and the war in Iraq, recession... But that doesn't count, does it?
4. You actually believe that Obama and Clinton supporters aren't lying to the pollsters when they claim that they would vote for McCain over their candidate's Democratic rival.
5. You don't believe that the results will change significantly when a Democratic candidate is chosen and they concentrate their efforts against McCain rather than against their Democratic primary rival.
6. You believe that a site which, during 2004 showed Kerry to be the likely winner, is a trustworthy source for predicting election results.
What's it like down there on the far left side of the bell curve?- eibborjames, on 04/27/2008, -2/+5Don't waist your breath on people who believe the earth is flat.
- fmaxwell, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1Shh! I'm distracting him from trying to get creationism taught in science classes.
- eibborjames, on 04/27/2008, -2/+5Don't waist your breath on people who believe the earth is flat.
- mikesbaker, on 04/27/2008, -2/+4can you predict what my finger is about to do?
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -3/+0What hole did you stick it in?
I hope your Ear and not your nose.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -3/+0What hole did you stick it in?
- dbs1221, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/A ...
As of 2 "days ago McCain is never going to win the election"
And Hilary has been beating McCain for the past month on your website. - hittnrun, on 04/30/2008, -0/+1Texas listed as "BARELY GOP". Hahahahha, whatever
your map is a fail.
- buryhillary, on 04/27/2008, -23/+34Sooo......you just copy and paste this ***** under every Obama article? I believe so...I checked....Well your favorite candidates on your profile are McCane and Billary. Hillary is a Republican. Can't we have a Democrat?That just says it all. Anyways, Obama 08!
- badnewshotel, on 04/27/2008, -48/+14Clinton and Obama are now both mortally wounded and can't win the general thanks to all this crap. Nice work Dems, you did it again. You suck.
- buhbyebot, on 04/27/2008, -9/+11No, that's only half true. Hillary is mortally wounded. Obama has taken the high road and refuses to get into the mud with Hillary.
- masterm1nd, on 04/27/2008, -7/+3B-b-but racist, and American, AND terrorist ties.
- petrodollar, on 04/27/2008, -8/+3Why do Republicans hate Americans?
- Dewhead, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8Huh?
- wacomwacoff, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Yes, the Republicans are racist and have terrorist ties. True!
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Do you know how weak that sounds. "He knows more terrorist than I do." Are you talking about Hillary or Obama?
- petrodollar, on 04/27/2008, -8/+3Why do Republicans hate Americans?
- thatsmyaibo, on 04/27/2008, -4/+2I agree but it's hurting him.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -1/+0Daaaaaa. Really.........
- septicmadman, on 04/27/2008, -3/+7Obama has thrown mud.
- hmunkey, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Just not rocks.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -2/+0BO is Mudd.
- masterm1nd, on 04/27/2008, -7/+3B-b-but racist, and American, AND terrorist ties.
- pintomp3, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2they are taking a beating right now, but once the general election comes around people will not vote for bush 2.0 mccain wants to continue the war and extend the bush economic policies. he has voted with the administration 98% of the time, more than any other senator. given bush's 70% disapproval rating and how similar mccain is to bush on policy, there is no way mccain will win.
- wacomwacoff, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Nah, they'll be fine. Right now we're not focusing on McCain. Once it becomes Obama vs. McCain and all of the dirty laundry comes out, McCain won't last. He's embarrassing.
- dimitrisokolov, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2McCain is an ass for sure. I hate the little ***** eating grin he always has, but he's practically a Democrat so many Republicans don't like him. McCain could win the general election though. Hillary is Hillary and she can't swing enough of the Republican & Independent vote to win. We still don't know much about Obama to be honest. I wanted Ron Paul to win, so I'm not sure who to vote for now. Obama would signal a change, but his communist/socialist ideology worry me to be honest. I came from a communist country and Obama and his supporters seem too socialist for me. They are way to Che Guevara/Reverend Wright/Anti-war nut jobs who don't understand the world they live in. If Obama wins, it will be interesting to see him talking to the terrorists and see what his policy will be.
- buhbyebot, on 04/27/2008, -9/+11No, that's only half true. Hillary is mortally wounded. Obama has taken the high road and refuses to get into the mud with Hillary.
- wrongonce, on 04/27/2008, -20/+83Fast forward to Obama in the Whitehouse, there is a press conference and he is answering questions honestly, as a leader should and with vision towards a future that we can all be proud of. Would Hillary still be on the Senate floor talking about how she actually won the election?
- Dewhead, on 04/27/2008, -21/+8Wow, you are living in La la land. Obama is a sham.
- wrongonce, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6sez you.
Or perhaps you prefer "So's yo mama?"
- wrongonce, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6sez you.
- darkciti2, on 04/27/2008, -6/+5No, she'll still be out on the campaign trail (as an independent).
- OfNumbers, on 04/27/2008, -4/+3Good, a Lieberman/Clinton legacy should replace Nader nicely. Maybe they'll end up in the same private jet that disappears in to the Pacific?
- brad3378, on 04/27/2008, -9/+10http://digg.com/political_opinion/Obama_s_Blueprin ...
An article pointing to Obama's OFFICIAL platform with only 178 diggs after 79 days
If anything is hype, it is the belief that his supporters care about his official platform.
Disagree? Prove me wrong and digg this story.
There's no reason why your enemy - a Ron Paul supporter - should be promoting your stories for you.
Make this election about REAL issues like his official platform- not the tabloid Obama issues discussed on Digg.
Do you really care about Obama talking about Hillary's cackling laugh or Obama's bowling shoes? Or do you care about his platform?
Am I wrong? if not, bury me now and continue feeding on these feel good distractions.- Kas70, on 04/27/2008, -5/+5No need to digg it when we already know it.
- Stevo23, on 04/27/2008, -2/+8Definitely read it already.
- wrongonce, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3In case you missed it, there have been umpteen platforms before, but the people we elected were not up for the task at hand. If you have to put it down to one over-riding factor for my supporting Obama it would be precisely what you think; I believe he will be an honest and courageous leader. Could I be wrong? Of course, but I have to trust someone's instincts on this -- mine. I've listened to what the candidates have said and read what they've written. I'll never agree with everything nor do I care to. I want a LEADER, not a lier/whiner/maniac/whimp/idiot/thief.
- opticwind, on 04/27/2008, -2/+4Yes, Obama is the God of Mr. Smith's and will usher in a new age of political honesty. Give me a break. You're so wound up in supporting Obama that you've turned him into this romanticized re-incarnation of JFK that he will never be able to live up to.
Whether black or white, male or female, all politicians are untrustworthy. - jbenson2, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3Sounds like you want the E-ticket for Fantasyland.
- Dewhead, on 04/27/2008, -21/+8Wow, you are living in La la land. Obama is a sham.
- BananaGrabber, on 04/27/2008, -40/+27Okay, Digg has made it clear that Obama is going to win. There's nothing Hillary can do and nothing is going to change. Good, now lets start having less obama spam and more tech articles hit the front page now please. Articles like these are getting redundant.
Spam all you want when the general election comes.- eliot2000, on 04/27/2008, -8/+591. Click "my profile"
2. Select the "settings tab.
3. Click "customize topics" on the right side of the page.
4. Uncheck "2008 US Elections"
5. Profit.- Idiggapony, on 04/27/2008, -17/+10Bless you, eliot2000, bless you. I shall sleep soundly tonight, knowing that tomorrow, for the first time in months, I may be able to read though digg's front page without having to weed out all the Obamaspam.
I sure hope this works. - cheezintern, on 04/27/2008, -7/+5I just hope all the other people that complain in every single threat about Obama spam do this so we don't have to put forth the effort of digging them down every time.
- bphicke, on 04/27/2008, -6/+3Or people could stop spamming this crap so that when there is actual information to put out, it gets out.
- OverkillTASF, on 04/27/2008, -11/+4I did this last time you suggested to me... But what the hell, I'm still seeing them!!! Help me rid my world of Obama-spam so everyone can play soggy biscuit in peace!!!
- Idiggapony, on 04/27/2008, -17/+10Bless you, eliot2000, bless you. I shall sleep soundly tonight, knowing that tomorrow, for the first time in months, I may be able to read though digg's front page without having to weed out all the Obamaspam.
- csupra, on 04/27/2008, -5/+9Yeah don't care about the elections, so another ***** like bush can win. Bush love people like you.
- KillerStone, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3Just because you're getting tired of the nonstop Obama coverage does not mean you do not care about the fate of the country. I am an avid Obama supporter but when you saturate Digg with a blitzkrieg of pro-Obama anti-Hilary posts you're preaching to the choir. Often times people on Digg complain of unbalanced coverage, the mainstream media is ignoring this issue etc etc. Digg is one of the worst offenders of unbalanced coverage. If you wish to effectively support Barack Obama and change this country encourage discussion with a variety of posts. People bitch and politicians wasting time on smear campaigns and focusing on their opponents negative qualities instead of supporting their own qualities but Digg has done just this, first with Ron Paul and now with Barack Obama.
- eliot2000, on 04/27/2008, -8/+591. Click "my profile"
- Pherdnut, on 04/27/2008, -8/+39This is obvious enough that I don't really think it's the concern. The big problem is figuring out what Hillary's hopes are because she must be smart enough to realize she's doing more to bring Obama down than increase her own popularity. What we need to establish is what the hell it's going to take to get her to walk away from this thing before we turn the first easy win for the DFL in decades into a completely unnecessary nailbiter against someone who's perceived as a flip-flopping geriatric case that's been endorsed by one of the most unpopular presidents in American history.
Personally, I think she's hoping for a political miracle or a tragedy.
One thing I think Obama fans need to do is to funnel more of our excitement into the movement that Obama has inspired rather than deifying the man himself. We can't afford to have our spirit broken in the way progressive-minded Americans did after the Kennedy and MLK assassinations and it will take a lot more than one inspiring president to reverse the problems that we have. When Hillary is finally dealt with, I think we have to rebuild focus on the issues that matter.
As a Gen-Xer I have to give the younger Obama supporters a lot of cred for showing more political savvy than any generation in my living memory. You've developed a similar resistance to the fabrications and bent truths that we deal with from marketing and a broken news media without developing the same cynicism and apathy as a consequence. While a lot of you have fallen for the trap of overly indulging in conspiracy theory (lookin' at you RP "truthers") it seems like a large chunk of just about every generation has made itself useless by doing the same.
Just keep in mind that a lot of the excitement and inspiration surrounding Obama is as much because a lot of us older kids see what you guys are up to and are inspired by your example. Even a lot of boomers seem to be waking up to the idea that there are some very fundamental things wrong with the process that led to Bush for 8 years and that Hillary is attempting to play by those rules rather than help us all change them.
Anyway, don't get all entitled on us like the Boomers did in the 60s and we'll do our best to stand by you.- FairDinkumMate, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1I heard an interesting theory in the MSM that she will leverage her position into a VP role, with Obama not being given a choice by the party as to who his VP is. It sounds radical until you think about how much support she DOES have within the Democratic Party & whether or not Obama would risk his run at the Presidency by refusing the offer.3 months ago I would have said 'No way' but right now I think Obama would know if he took the deal, he would be President & if he didn't & the details of the deal leaked(which they would for sure) he would alienate even more Clinton supporters which can't be good for him or the party right now.
- stretch611, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3I still say no way to a combined ticket. While everyone points out that they are roughly equal on issues, what most forget is they are polar opposites when it comes to style and integrity. All Obama has to do is pick a strong running mate, (IMO, Edwards or even Chris Dodd) and Hillary can not be forced on him.
A forced running mate is not a good idea. If you look at the current administration, they get along well because Cheney pulls the strings in the background and Bush acts dumb. If Hillary and Obama are forced together, Hillary will try to take full control.
- stretch611, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3I still say no way to a combined ticket. While everyone points out that they are roughly equal on issues, what most forget is they are polar opposites when it comes to style and integrity. All Obama has to do is pick a strong running mate, (IMO, Edwards or even Chris Dodd) and Hillary can not be forced on him.
- ShadowMerchant, on 04/27/2008, -4/+1"We can't afford to have our spirit broken in the way progressive-minded Americans did after the Kennedy and MLK assassinations "
I will be pleased if you collectivist *****-heels have your spirit broken like you did after the 1984 and 2004 elections. I plan to rub your nose in it every chance I get. - jbenson2, on 04/27/2008, -6/+1You left out one very important possibility. And that is the O-man continues his meltdown. He is trying to hold on by avoiding any tough questions. But he is naive and inexperienced. He will either continue to face tough questions or Americans will question his cowardly actions.
- yodaj007, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2What tough questions did he avoid? I don't recall the pin he didn't wear a tough question. Hell, that was an irrelevant question!
- jbenson2, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1I said he is trying to avoid tough questions by backing out of any more debates. He got skewered on the tax issue and the follow up question. Just a lot of hems and haws, then a comment that he wants to stick it to the people who make money in the stock market.
- yodaj007, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2What tough questions did he avoid? I don't recall the pin he didn't wear a tough question. Hell, that was an irrelevant question!
- Spoomeister, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4"One thing I think Obama fans need to do is to funnel more of our excitement into the movement that Obama has inspired rather than deifying the man himself. "
I can't digg this enough.
- FairDinkumMate, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1I heard an interesting theory in the MSM that she will leverage her position into a VP role, with Obama not being given a choice by the party as to who his VP is. It sounds radical until you think about how much support she DOES have within the Democratic Party & whether or not Obama would risk his run at the Presidency by refusing the offer.3 months ago I would have said 'No way' but right now I think Obama would know if he took the deal, he would be President & if he didn't & the details of the deal leaked(which they would for sure) he would alienate even more Clinton supporters which can't be good for him or the party right now.
- perhapsimcrazy, on 04/27/2008, -5/+6I dont believe in any hype. It's a bitch to find a mechanic for my horse these days though.
- barfooz, on 04/27/2008, -6/+9If you want a real analysis of how the Electoral College would break down as of today, http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ runs the numbers from the polls in all the states. And it's not good right now for either Democratic candidate, mostly because McCain is polling strong in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida.
- SteveIsTheDude, on 04/27/2008, -3/+6Voters are going to have to learn more about Obama.
- ShadowMerchant, on 04/27/2008, -4/+1The more they learn, the more they snicker at the thought that such an unqualified hard-left heap of dung could aspire to the Presidency.
- stretch611, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3From what I have seen, the more they learn about Obama, the better he becomes.
- ramenite, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5I don't know exactly why this was dugg down. Yeah, it doesn't look good for Obama on that site. But it's hardly some propaganda. It's running numbers and seeing how they work out. Numbers don't like, and trying to bury them because they don't favor Obama is no different than Gore or Hillary trying to make up numbers to say why they should be president.
- barfooz, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Heck, I'm surprised it stayed above +1...
- SaintStryfe, on 04/27/2008, -3/+5I wouldn't worry. Having a solid candidate 5 weeks earlier, plus Hillary's attacks on Barack and then the media's spin of his responses as "vicious fighting" have hurt him a little. Once it settles - and I think after June 5, at the absolute latest it will - those numbers will rebound. When Hill swallows for the good of the party (which I think she will in Mid-June) and endorses Barack, He'll still have a huge financial advantage, and plenty of untapped resources. He'll work over those states and win big. In the median, he'll push for candidates in states, and help the Dems get a better majority in Congress.
- dagamer34, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4Because the last 6 weeks of bickering has made even the most hardcore of fans sick to their stomach. We're hearing the same arguments over and over again, and the real problem is that none of it has to do with us.
However, because when you get down to McCain vs. X democratic nominee, the differences in policy issues are so abundant that there is always something new and MEANINGFUL to learn about each candidates positions.
And then we'll have about 2-3 weeks of negative attack ads and then the election. But before those 2-3 weeks appear, politics will be somewhat interesting for the American public. However, I for one, cannot wait until May 6th when all the "big" states have voted and even if it wasn't clear who has won before, the MSM will pretty much tell Clinton to get the ***** out. :) - pintomp3, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3i dugg you up, but mccain is flying under the radar right now. once the general election comes around, i doubt so many people will vote for extending the war and bush's economic plan.
- SteveIsTheDude, on 04/27/2008, -3/+6Voters are going to have to learn more about Obama.
- cheezeme, on 04/27/2008, -24/+6Hillary has won every big state. She's won the popular vote where anyone voted. Seems like those are pretty big metrixs aren't they.
Get over it already. He's going back to Chicago a college professor.- ZenMasterMojo, on 04/27/2008, -5/+11Dream on. Obama has won more votes total than Clinton, more states, and more delegates. Hillary is just embarassing herself at this point by continuing to stay in the race. Face it, Hillary. It's over! Deal with it.
Hillary has become like a Democratic version of Mitt Romney. Willing to say or do anything to tear her opponent down in order to win.- thatsmyaibo, on 04/27/2008, -4/+3Obama won a lot of states that will go to the GOP. You can't count those in the end.
- tharju, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3same goes to Hillary state that will go to the DEM like Cali, NY. IL. At least Obama has a shot at GOP base.
- pintomp3, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1and you don't think texas would go to the GOP?
- thatsmyaibo, on 04/27/2008, -4/+3Obama won a lot of states that will go to the GOP. You can't count those in the end.
- wacomwacoff, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1That's incorrect. Winning "big states" doesn't matter -- winning delegates does. Winning the popular vote doesn't matter, and she's losing the popular vote anyway.
- UTKEngineer, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1winning delegates only matters for the nomination. Look at Obama's so called strongholds. The south and southwest are routinely red states. In all honesty, I hope Obama wins the nomination so I can be sure McCain will win the election.
- cjnkns, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1The sad thing is that Ohio , Pennsylvania are rural areas where the majority of those people - like it or not are racists.
Not everyone wants to say it because it's taboo to talk about, but it's the truth.
Think about the people in those areas and the stuffy older crowd voting for Clinton ( the demographic she attracts.)
The are older people and still clinging to old ways of thinking - that's just the truth of it.
Obama is the best candidate for the position in the white house. PERIOD.
- ZenMasterMojo, on 04/27/2008, -5/+11Dream on. Obama has won more votes total than Clinton, more states, and more delegates. Hillary is just embarassing herself at this point by continuing to stay in the race. Face it, Hillary. It's over! Deal with it.
- farkis, on 04/27/2008, -27/+4You mean *stole* more delegates. And his supporters remind me of Ron Paul zealots.
Hey, you heard it hear first:
Ask Jeeves! Borack Obama- wacomwacoff, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Explain how he stole delegates, please.
Ps. his name is "Barack".
- wacomwacoff, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Explain how he stole delegates, please.
- mkocher, on 04/27/2008, -12/+2Yeah. she one the big ones, woooooo
- ralphie81, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5fail
- cheezintern, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4She won CA and NY which will vote democratic regardless, so those victories don't really mean a whole lot in the grand scheme of things.
- pintomp3, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1her winning texas is meaningless. democrats won't get that state in the general election.
- FairDinkumMate, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2She LOST Texas! Learn to count - Delegates are what it's ALL about!
- DesertDude, on 04/27/2008, -20/+6Exactly what you diggers said about Obama and Pennsylvania right before he lost it.
- sephiroth965, on 04/27/2008, -3/+7Everyone knew that Obama would lose PA. We were just excited because he started gaining ground in polls a week or two before the primary.
- p51d007, on 04/27/2008, -21/+10He is nothing more than an empty suit. A slick politician, who has too many radical views.
- banmaster, on 04/27/2008, -7/+3I don't actually think that he will be ALLOWED to becom prez. There will be an accident or something or he'll just outright get assassinated by a patsy white supremisist gun nut or somehting.
- 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2And wait til it comes out what his position on slavery reparations is!
" After his election [to Senate], Obama [stated] he was against "just signing over checks to African-Americans," leaving open the possibility of other forms of reparations would be acceptable to him (Chicago Tribune 11/14/2004)."
Get it? That means Barack is in favor of milking Americans for trillions in "reparations". Then giving the money to guys like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton to do "good works".- srondizzle, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1It's funny how the quote you posted supports the exact opposite of what you're trying to say.
- 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Read it again. The quote includes what the Chicago Tribune thinks it means.
You may not know this, but Obama has many confidants and advisers surrounding him that are very pro-reparations.
If Obama was AGAINST reparations, all he had to do was say so. That he chose to express himself this way means exactly what I and the Chicago Trib think it means.
- 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Read it again. The quote includes what the Chicago Tribune thinks it means.
- srondizzle, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1It's funny how the quote you posted supports the exact opposite of what you're trying to say.
- solisdaniel, on 04/27/2008, -21/+6Good Job Obama supporters! Claim victory before all states have voted! This ain't over it!
- dsb101, on 04/27/2008, -10/+4can listen to him speak all day
- Pirate45, on 04/27/2008, -3/+19Obama is actually made out of candy.
- mal1964, on 04/27/2008, -8/+3Dum Dum Pops
Sarcasm/
- mal1964, on 04/27/2008, -8/+3Dum Dum Pops
- PopcornDave, on 04/27/2008, -1/+13Nobody seems to understand that the media *wants* this to go to the convention. It's in the best interest of their bottom line to drag this ***** out as long as possible. That said, Hillary seems to be setting up her run for 2012 on the (fairly good) chance that she's not getting the nomination.
- ADVIZR, on 04/27/2008, -1/+9Yeah, because there's nothing like building up your popularity for a 2012 bid by making half of the Democrats despise you.
- PopcornDave, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3But think about it. She's positioning herself to ride in on what she perceives is a white horse in 2012 to "fix" whatever mess the winner of the election made. I never said I thought she was right, just speculating that's what she's doing.
- Rustymetal, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4I think she knows by 2012 presidential seat will be Irreverent, she will be running for North American Alliance Leader.
- pintomp3, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4the american public has a very short memory. whoever is elected this year will be blamed for the war and the recession. she is setting up to swoop in in 2012.
- ADVIZR, on 04/27/2008, -1/+9Yeah, because there's nothing like building up your popularity for a 2012 bid by making half of the Democrats despise you.
- ralphie81, on 04/27/2008, -1/+14Wow, a digg headline that reads "Don't Believe the Hype"...now I've seen everything
- WikiEasy, on 04/27/2008, -19/+7More obamaSPAM
- thatsmyaibo, on 04/27/2008, -11/+5First off, judging by the domain, this article might be a bit biased. Second, I like Obama but he has made it clear he wants to tax people which I think is the dumbest thing to do as we are practically in a recession. The Dems need to get their ***** together and fast if they plan on beating the GOP in an election following a failed Republican President.
- scamper22, on 04/27/2008, -4/+4give me a president that doesn't think the solution to everything is taxing the hardworking folk to give to their special interest, and I'll vote for him/her. Obama's policies are just regular democratic values that only benefit the public sector and unions.
lets see.
Want affordable healthcare free from the profit motive? Have a government run non-profit health insurance company. See how well it is.
Bring in a law that says 'no benefit shall be granted to the public service that is not granted to any other american'
Maximize choice where possible. Provide good funding for education, but give people choice.
Let's see Obama do any of these. Instead his policies are pretty standard bs.
- scamper22, on 04/27/2008, -4/+4give me a president that doesn't think the solution to everything is taxing the hardworking folk to give to their special interest, and I'll vote for him/her. Obama's policies are just regular democratic values that only benefit the public sector and unions.
- eagles2k3, on 04/27/2008, -8/+2DIE BITCH DIE!
- Joe11Blue, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0Dugg for audacity
- Laughsatyou, on 04/27/2008, -9/+7digg represents a minority of ideas. there is no equality here, just intellectual cess pool.
- theclashrocker, on 04/27/2008, -2/+4Yea digg does represent a minority of ideas. If digg was the majority the election would be RonPaul/SteveJobs 08
- researcher1941, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3please show me where Ron Paul's ideas on economics works in the world.
it appears to me his economics would create a society of haves and have nots.
society needs safety nets.
he did get the blowback part right. so few understand that concept in America.
we Americans are very self righteous.- theclashrocker, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Psst the article is about Obama not Paul.
- paxnima, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1With libertarian ideals some is always being uncared for.
- vogelshock, on 04/27/2008, -10/+4Sigh. I support Hillary. I'm a democrat, though, and I'll vote for Obama if he wins our nomination. I'm just so sick and tired of Obama-heads shrieking bloody murder if *anything* is ever said pro-hillary or anti-obama-electability. I don't want McCain to win this election... I'm so tired of horrible, out-of-touch republicans trashing our country.
There's strong data to support that Obama will have a harder time getting elected than Clinton. The democrats who actually give a damn about our party need to take that into account. For gosh sakes, Clinton and Obama's platforms are exactly the same! Check out their websites and find *one* policy difference other than the nitty-gritty of their healthcare funding proposals!
Obama preaches coming together and opening a dialog. When are all the Obama-diggers going to start following suit? You can't find a non-buried comment in these threads that says something other than "We love Obama"...- poopdigger, on 04/27/2008, -2/+4digger's don't need your strong data. They have the huffington post.
- FairDinkumMate, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1It's great to see someone write some actual thoughts here rather than "I love ***" or "I hate ***".
I'd be interested to hear some more of your argument though. For example:
Which 'strong data' exists to suggest Obama will have a harder time getting elected than Hillary? I ask because everything I've read basically says they both have pros & cons with core voters(about equal) but that he appeals more to swing voters(increasing his chances) & that SHE polarises Republicans more which will encourage their turnout(decreasing her chances)
I also believe that you are correct in that their platforms are almost identical. Given that, wouldn't it be better to have a leader that is articulate & can inspire people rather than one that most people(60%+ in EVERY poll I've seen) believe to be dishonest & untrustworthy?- vogelshock, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Good question.
Here's two polls supporting the conclusion I mentioned: #1 is the latest Gallup poll finding that Hillary is tied with Obama, but only Hillary leads McCain in the general election. #2 is a gallup poll from two weeks ago finding that nearly 30% of Hillary voters will not vote for Obama if he wins the nomination, whereas only 19% of Obama supporters will not vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination. I.e., a larger portion of the democratic party will defect if Obama wins the nomination than if Hillary does.
#1: http://www.gallup.com/poll/106828/Gallup-Daily-Cli ...
#2: http://www.gallup.com/poll/105691/McCain-vs-Obama- ...
Hope that helps.- vogelshock, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Sorry. Links didn't post right.
#1: http://www.gallup.com/poll/105691/McCain-vs-Obama- ...
#2: http://www.gallup.com/poll/106828/Gallup-Daily-Cli ...
- vogelshock, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Sorry. Links didn't post right.
- vogelshock, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Good question.
- flamesrule, on 04/27/2008, -11/+3Another Obama article...yet another example of what is wrong with Digg. This sucks! People talk about his honesty, how he's the savior of American politics. Everyone has their skeletons, Obama included. Just because they haven't been found yet doesn't mean that they won't come out later. Not to mention his inexperience could certainly doom the country. How could he possibly deal with the Chinese? The Iranians? South Korea? Probably by running and hiding. He doesn't realize that he's under a huge microscope and any problems, large or small, would kill any chance for a future black presidential hopeful.
- badoli, on 04/27/2008, -2/+0You do know, that throwing bombs is not always the best diplomacy? And if he's under this huge microscope, how'd he want to run and hide...?
- pseudononymist, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Obama is known, if anything, for his negotiating/bargaining skills that end up making everyone feel like they've been listened to. He did that at Harvard, he did that in Chicago, and I've yet to see any reason why he couldn't do that with the rest of the world.
- teh_spazz, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Because Harvard and Chicago are full of liberal yuppie douchebags. The audiences came to him, he didn't go to the hostile audience.
- poopdigger, on 04/27/2008, -6/+5obama is going to win, why do insecure diggers keep having to feed themselves recalculations of the same numbers?
snore - soot, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1Just take it from Senator Clinton, she said herself delegates are the only metric that matter.
- SwordofKahless, on 04/27/2008, -7/+6Tough economic times for the working man and all Obama and the Democrats have to offer is campaigning on raising every type of tax imaginable on them as a solution. What have we heard so far that might effect you:
1. Campaigned on removing the cap on social security taxes and repealing the Bush tax cuts. 30k and over expect a tax increase.
2. Proposing bailing out of banks and people foreclosed upon that purchased homes they could not afford. This will be paid for by raising taxes including on the same people that played by the rules and continued to rent since they could not afford a home. Now they will have to pay for the mistakes of others thanks to legislation proposed by the Democrats.
3. Obama submitted legislation and has campaigned on adding a tax to eliminate global poverty to the tune of a $845 billion to be paid for by the middle class.
4. Here in NY we are hearing this from Obama meanwhile at the state level Democrats are raising property taxes through the roof and are endless battling to raise other taxes including even the gasoline tax. We are paying near $4 a gallon and these clowns want to raise the gasoline tax! They succeed yesterday in raising tolls throughout the state and in my area alone the working man will be paying $20 more a month in tolls commuting one way thanks to the Democrats. The NYC congestion tax (luckily after a battle it failed to pass) but yesterday they passed raising the thruway tax. The Democrats are also not offerring a solution to get us out of Iraq so why is anyone suprised that McCain will win in the general election based on the economy, taxes and no difference in Iraq policy.
Whatever your belief is on abortion the country also pretty much rejects Obama's efforts in Illinois that healthy infants that survive abortion should be starved to death, late term, partial birth and abortions on demand. He is also against parental notification and for stem cell research. Therefore aside from the social issues this last paragraph is a killer where he cannot win in a general election.- wafla, on 04/27/2008, -2/+6Disingenuous and deluded post.
[1a] The "working man" isn't affected by removing the cap on social security taxes so that people earning $90k+ per year pay their fair share -- except that the social insurance programs will now be funded properly. [1b] The democratic candidates are not talking about repealing the lower- and middle-class tax cuts. [2] The Republican rubber-stamp congress took out gov't oversight of the banking and loan industry and this is what we get; the Republicans threw their beliefs out the window when they gave Social Security to Bear Sterns. [3] Better global poverty than almost any other thing, right? I mean, it's going to be spent anyway. [4] If that's true, then take it on the chin like a man.
McCain will not win. The Republicans have trapped us in eternal war, the secret prisons, the torture, New Orleans wiped off the map and FEMA yanking itself, Oil going from $20-$120 per barrel during Bush's term, record profits for oil companies, huge tax breaks for oil companies, huge tax breaks for offshoring labor, are we going to get justice for Enron? $44 trillion in unfunded promises with the Republicans just shrugging and looking confused. China paying for Iraq and now we can't even WHISPER criticism when they gun their own people down. Every third Republican caught for homosexual of pederastic acts.
It's really a sick, diseased political party and Obama (or Clinton) will win the election in the first 10 minutes after they stop attacking a Democrat and do the laundry list of the last 8 years.- taiakpun, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0You Americans are so deluded and narrow-minded. Everything you blamed on the Republicans have absolutely nothing to do with the US at all. It is an international battleground. EVERYTHING is now international, whatever happens in another country affects all others, reaching far and wide - i.e. oil prices. Give up the false belief that the USA is any where near the best country to live in - IT IS FAR FROM IT! I can not wait for the day to come when the US learns AGAIN that they are in fact incapable of running even their own country. F*$%in stupid yankees.
Oh yeah, over half of your people do not have health care and another third of your country is illiterate, as well as having the most imprisoned citizens than other countries. Take that to your bank and shove it.
- taiakpun, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0You Americans are so deluded and narrow-minded. Everything you blamed on the Republicans have absolutely nothing to do with the US at all. It is an international battleground. EVERYTHING is now international, whatever happens in another country affects all others, reaching far and wide - i.e. oil prices. Give up the false belief that the USA is any where near the best country to live in - IT IS FAR FROM IT! I can not wait for the day to come when the US learns AGAIN that they are in fact incapable of running even their own country. F*$%in stupid yankees.
- fmaxwell, on 04/27/2008, -2/+51. So just how do you propose to balance the budget while conducting wars in the Middle East without repealing tax cuts that Bush put in place? And what's so horrible about economically responsible government?
2. Yes, bail out the homeowners. They relied on an honest assessment from the mortgage lenders as to their financial ability to repay the loan. You don't take away all of a person's hard-earned money with a foreclosure when the bank is the one that misled them about the likely rise in the loan, their ability to pay the loan, and, in many cases, when the loan officer exaggerated the buyers' incomes on the loan application documents.
3. I am all for eliminating global poverty. It's what fuels unrest, hatred, wars, and terrorism. It's a lot cheaper to feed people than it is to invade and occupy their country. Can you cite a source which shows that he is exempting the wealthy from this supposed tax?
4. If you don't want local taxes to go up, then don't elect a Republican to be President. It's that simple. Bush has drastically cut back federal payments to states, leaving the states to find the money somewhere else -- taxpayers. As to raising gas taxes, tolls, and the NYC congestion tax, I am completely for it. We need to do everything we can to reduce dependence on foreign oil and that means forcing people to buy more fuel-efficient cars and to take mass transportation wherever feasible. Don't like paying $60 to fill your tank? Then buy a Smart Car, Prius, Civic Hybrid, or motorcycle. You seem to have the mistaken belief that you have a right to buy all of the gasoline that you can afford. You don't. Wasting the petroleum reserves is stealing from future generations and you have no more right to the oil than they do.
Why would anyone elect McCain to solve our economic problems when he's admitted that he's got no expertise on the economy and when Republican policies have gotten us into this mess?
The main reason why your kind is against abortion is because it's one less kid you can send over to Iraq to be maimed or killed. If you're so "pro-life", why are you all ready, at the drop of a hat, to kill tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens and thousands of American troops?
Yes, I'm against parental notification for abortions. We don't need kids bleeding to death or dying of infections from botched back-alley abortions with coat hangers. And we don't need right-wing religious zealot parents forcing a child to carry an unwanted fetus to term.
Yes, I am for stem cell research. What kind of sick ***** would advocate throwing away stem cells from fertility clinics rather than using them to help find cures for horrible diseases? You like seeing Stephen Hawking confined to a wheelchair? You enjoy seeing old people dying from Alzheimer's disease, unable to even recognize their loved ones? You don't mind sending some kid off to Iraq and having him come home paralyzed, but you don't want any stem cells used to help find a way for kids like him to walk again? What the ***** is wrong with you? - 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Thank you. At least ONE person with a brain here.
- novenator, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1you must be rich. those are the only ones who have benefitted from the Bush tax cuts. just remember, a society this out of balance with its center of wealth is prone for revolution
- fmaxwell, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1I have benefited from the Bush Tax cuts and, if Obama is elected and gets his tax proposals enacted into law, my taxes will be higher. And I'm okay with that. I owe my success to living in the U.S. and it's not unreasonable to ask me to pay my fair share in taxes.
This idea that single people making over $100K per year need tax relief is nuts! The people who need tax relief are the families of four trying to scrape by on blue-collar jobs. They are the single moms working as waitresses, school bus drivers, and cashiers. They are the guys who can't sleep at night because the family car needs a new catalytic converter and they can't afford it. Come on, people, let's vote our conscience rather than our greed.
- fmaxwell, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1I have benefited from the Bush Tax cuts and, if Obama is elected and gets his tax proposals enacted into law, my taxes will be higher. And I'm okay with that. I owe my success to living in the U.S. and it's not unreasonable to ask me to pay my fair share in taxes.
- wafla, on 04/27/2008, -2/+6Disingenuous and deluded post.
- bionh, on 04/27/2008, -3/+4I'm a huge fan of Senator Obama, but I wish everyone would stop digging such obviously biased articles. You can't expect fair analysis of the election from a website called 'eyesonobama'. Blatant favoritism by internet news is making him seem less credible, and is hurting his campaign. We don't need to digg every pro-Obama article to help the guy out!
- GrodyChamp, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3The website name shows how its super objective and not spinning anything!
- bingobongony, on 04/27/2008, -4/+2it'd be nice if he could win just ONE primary state...you know...the states that vote the same way they will in November.
- theclashrocker, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0It's more important for him to win swing states instead of states that already vote democratic (i.e. the ones Hillary is winning). He has a much better chance at winning, not only swing states, but red states as well; like Illinois
- JointVenture, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Well he's lost FLA, PA, Ohio, NY, Texas and CA.
Please make him the Democratic nominee. - Joe11Blue, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0You realize that the majority of Dems will go for a woman before a Black man right? A woman running for president is a first. They will push anything that is a first of that kind. It's the nature of the progressive mindset. In the end they will support whoever wins the nomination though.
- JointVenture, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Well he's lost FLA, PA, Ohio, NY, Texas and CA.
- mollygonz, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0They are saying that regardless of which Democrat wins the nomination, those same states should go in their favor.
- theclashrocker, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0It's more important for him to win swing states instead of states that already vote democratic (i.e. the ones Hillary is winning). He has a much better chance at winning, not only swing states, but red states as well; like Illinois
- diggitydad, on 04/27/2008, -0/+14Not EVERY metric. In states where Obama is NOT on the ballot, Hillary wins by huge margins!
- researcher1941, on 04/27/2008, -7/+1here come the negative diggs but it matters not who wins the general election. we are heading straight for corp and gov fascism.
this is about a society's ideas and values and way of life not about politicians they are only a reflection of the society they represent.
much of what rev wright stated was right on track about America but we Americans avoid truth like it was the plague.
and the white house after the Vietnam war it should have been painted red for all the Vietnamese we killed in that other illegal war for profits instead we call our soldiers war hero's for fighting in that war.
the true definition of imperialism is calling your soldiers war heroes for fighting in illegal wars for profits.
I got banned from huff post for calling the demo politicians in this race imperialists for calling mc war a war hero.
the liberals are no better than the repugs when it comes to our so called free press.- jpete71chevmal, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2What exactly did McAmnesty do to be a war hero? Having half a dozen planes destroyed while you were sitting in them doesn't make him a hero to me. Lots of guys lived through the Hanoi Hilton. Probably more never made it out. That still doesn't make him a hero.
That said, either of the other too are no better. Let's hope we make it past 2012!
- jpete71chevmal, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2What exactly did McAmnesty do to be a war hero? Having half a dozen planes destroyed while you were sitting in them doesn't make him a hero to me. Lots of guys lived through the Hanoi Hilton. Probably more never made it out. That still doesn't make him a hero.
- CHANNELOCK, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1I hope the billion dollar bought,invested,owned candidate(either one) doesn't fold as that's 20% of the economy at this point
- ShadowMerchant, on 04/27/2008, -4/+2"and the white house after the Vietnam war it should have been painted red for all the Vietnamese we killed in that other illegal war for profits instead we call our soldiers war hero's for fighting in that war."
Profit my ass, we fought to kill communists and eradicate collectivist economics, and quite rightfully so in my opinion. The soldiers of that war are indeed heroes and I would fight it again, only ten times harder.- researcher1941, on 04/27/2008, -1/+0and capitalist economics is any better. you fought in a civil war and helped to kill over one million Vietnamese. and you would fight ten times harder and kill ten times more men women and children.
you are a classic example of what can go wrong with patriotism and nationalism.
bet the Germans called their soldiers hero's for invading and occupying Poland hero's.
by the way I also as a tax payer contributed to that war and the deaths of those Vietnamese and the Iraqis.
if you fail to see the motives of our industrial military complex then you will fail to see you have been used by a corp fascist government.
you did not make profits but check out who did. you were used by corp America for profits.
mc war would have bombed every man woman and child in Vietnam to win that war to gain respect from his relatives. sad very sad day in America.
and we call him a war hero. only in humans eyes.- JointVenture, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1I thought Rev Wright was a marine and Vietnam War hero?
- Pherdnut, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1It's okay to kill people over economic philosophy?
And he sure was Joint. Like many war heroes he also objected to the war when he came back. It's hard to grasp if you're more of a Green Berets than a Full Metal Jacket fan but a lot of our guys didn't like what they saw over there.
- 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2And these diggers forget that when we left Viet Nam that cleared the way for:
1- Communist Khmer Rouge takeover of Cambodia and the murder of a third of their population in just a couple of years.
2- Communist takeover of South Viet Nam which led to tens of thousand of Viet Namese into "re-education camps" and thirty years of perpetual poverty. - jessehadden, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1And there are members of Al Quaeda who'd like to kill you and your family, for believing in your economic system, too. You disgust me. Human beings are worth more than that feeling of satisfaction you get when you can sit back in your chair and say, "Ah... everybody in the world is now just like me."
The soldiers who followed orders in Viet Nam were one of many victims, but they were also the victimizer -- same as the soldiers following orders in Iraq. The soldiers who refuse to blindly obey orders, who refused to kill for politics & money, and who risked their own futures to frag the officers who were responsible for war crime after massacre after slaughter... those are the true heroes, then and now.
- researcher1941, on 04/27/2008, -1/+0and capitalist economics is any better. you fought in a civil war and helped to kill over one million Vietnamese. and you would fight ten times harder and kill ten times more men women and children.
- OakRidger, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3So which hype do we believe? The Obama hype, the Hillary Hype, or the McCain hype? It's all hype, plain and simple.
- Pherdnut, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Thanks for being useless.
- mal1964, on 04/27/2008, -4/+1Obama makes me want to be a better man!
In Bed!- nycmac247, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY
LARRY!!!!- mal1964, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Wow, Not to many on digg believe that to be true but the guy sounds truthful. But i don't know the whole story so i cant say it it true or not. Has Obama reacted or given a statement about it? If not i say he should it is a big deal.
- nycmac247, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY
- TheBanch, on 04/27/2008, -2/+5If loving the Obama hype is wrong, I don't want to be right. He's an idealist... the world could use one right about now.
- jpete71chevmal, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3No, he's a socialist. There's a difference.
- wacomwacoff, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1Well, no, he's not, in any way shape or form.
- jpete71chevmal, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3No, he's a socialist. There's a difference.
- JointVenture, on 04/27/2008, -5/+3Rev Wright, and now Al Sharpton asking for black people to be civilly disobedient in NYC.
I say please make Obama the Democratic nominee.- 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2No Justice No Piece
- Rinxix, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2"Obama is Winning Every Metric – Don’t Believe the Hype"
Irony? - C3RV4NTE5, on 04/27/2008, -9/+3Obama is one of those guys that talk so much without saying anything. I don't wanna hear him talking about his dreams, where every American is free. I wanna hear his solutions. Clinton is a ***** reptilian and McCain is another fake puppet toy. The only one that has the guts to be a good president for your Country is Ron Paul, and you all know it. Anyway, the men behind the curtain won't let him be your president.
"Democracy" is just a way to say "Comunism" but hidding it. At least in China you know you're in a communist state and you have no value. Here in democratic countries you have no value, you're in a comunist state but you're so blind you can't see it.- 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Oh really. Tell me where, in human history, it was better to live. Than in the USA right now.
Please don't tell me Europe -- it's being taken over by Islamics. Plus, we've been supporting Europe by paying for their defense for 50 years.- taiakpun, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0ONE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THIS - CANADA! The USA right now? Please, a country living a pipedream that thinks they are better than others - hahahaha do not make me laugh. Poor economy, education system is a joke, and citizens actually believe that they are still a superpower - hahaha. ya right. The Democrats are ripping each other apart, at least the Republicans are together on their candidate. I am glad that I do not live in the USA, but am worried about being so close - it looks as if the country will soon implode on itself - media and people are all a joke, the only people in the world that does not get this is the Americans themselves. Keep killin yourselves, the sooner you are gone the better the world will be.
- 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Is Canada really that different from the US? Of course we still are a superpower. But the debate here between the Democratic candidates is not "...ripping each other apart..." It's what the democratic system is all about. Brings the truth out in the open.
Of course, in Canada thousands of people suffer and some die every year waiting from medical procedures that they'd get here in a couple of days. But you'll get that fixed soon, don't worry.
As to us being gone, and "...the better the world will be." Be careful what you wish for. Without us, you'd be speaking German now. Or Russian. And so would most of the world.
By the way, I understand that you Canadians recently voted DOWN an anti-American PM and voted IN a PRO-American Prime Minister, isn't the right?
And so did Germany. And France. And Italy. So maybe the world DOES appreciate the USA just a little. Of course, that wouldn't apply to your friends, would it?
- 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Is Canada really that different from the US? Of course we still are a superpower. But the debate here between the Democratic candidates is not "...ripping each other apart..." It's what the democratic system is all about. Brings the truth out in the open.
- taiakpun, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0ONE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THIS - CANADA! The USA right now? Please, a country living a pipedream that thinks they are better than others - hahahaha do not make me laugh. Poor economy, education system is a joke, and citizens actually believe that they are still a superpower - hahaha. ya right. The Democrats are ripping each other apart, at least the Republicans are together on their candidate. I am glad that I do not live in the USA, but am worried about being so close - it looks as if the country will soon implode on itself - media and people are all a joke, the only people in the world that does not get this is the Americans themselves. Keep killin yourselves, the sooner you are gone the better the world will be.
- 140Suffolk, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Oh really. Tell me where, in human history, it was better to live. Than in the USA right now.
- dtaylor379, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1Hype what hype? The chickens who is counting the chickens?
- pseudononymist, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Of course, democrats don't always win California:
http://www.presidentelect.org/e1988.html#map- lhughey, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1You're right, but alot has changed in 20 years.
- pseudononymist, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1I hope you're right...
- lhughey, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1You're right, but alot has changed in 20 years.
- billyjack1958, on 04/27/2008, -2/+2Please answer this:
If Obama is what he says he is, why does he continue to refuse to sign the Freedom Pledge? Why does he refuse to pledge to return our Bill of Rights to us? Why does he refuse to pledge to rescind all bush's unconstitutional executive orders and signing statements? Why does he support the Thought Crime Prevention bill? Why did he vote for the Patriot Act the second time around? Why does he support pre-emptive war with Iran and Pakistan? Why did he say that the $68 B global tax for the war on poverty will only be enforced here in the USA? Why did he recently vote for a budget containing the largest tax hike in USA history? I have many more questions, but answers to these will do for now, thank you. - momsshizzle, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1Believe the Hype??? Digg, my hypocritical Linsux website, you don't know what to believe. Believe me, you will change your story if Obama loses and then you'll go right down the line and pick another candidate. Digg, you political morons.
- shiftclick, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2I'm calling BS on this one. Buried for inaccuracy. http://www.dontvoteobama.net
- Spoomeister, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1I'd like to see the energy from Obama supporters who show up at Hillary rallies, channeled into getting into the media's face. Showing up in the background in live news shots with signs showing Obama's overall numbers. Getting into reporters' faces and demanding that the media report the numbers honestly and objectively, rather than the artificial horse race we've had for the last 3 months, whose only purpose is to drive news ratings.
If the media didn't need a close race in order to get viewers, Hillary would have dropped out weeks ago. The mainstream media, and her skillful use of it, are the only ones keeping her campaign alive... goodness knows it's not her polling numbers, delegate count, total vote count, campaign money, endorsements, etc. - Mothrog, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3I propose Digg hosts an event for all Diggers. Obama will be invited, and a line of all his Digg supporters formed, and they can suck him off one after another instead of continually submitting Obamabot spam.
- peevatoe, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4i'm so sick of obama stories on digg. so so so sick
- DeejayPancake, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0All I've got to say is if McCain wins, I will be so disappointed in this country. He is crazy and wants to stay in Iraq for the next 1000 years. That's *****.
If Hilary wins, which she sure as hell won't if she wins the candidacy (which would be stupid), people will be surprised how much she's lied. Half the stuff she's said to get votes will not be followed through. I fully expect this.- hittnrun, on 04/30/2008, -0/+1Dude, you need to go back and read his REAL words, not what some idiot obamabot told you. We're still in alot of countries. Japan, Germany, BOSNIA, etc. I think you would be suprised at how BAD Obama would be if he got elected. Good thing you will never know. Go smoke a joint. Steal a little music.
- DeejayPancake, on 05/01/2008, -0/+0That's a real blow. +Sarcasm+ No ***** we're in a lot of countries.
"Good thing you will never know. Go smoke a joint. Steal a little music."
Never smoked before and don't give people ***** about stealing music. Everyone's done THAT at least once. Thing is, your insult is so stupid that I can't tell if you're telling me to go do those things or Obama supporters in general. Either way, it doesn't bother me in the least. Go tell people how greatly you insulted some random chick over the internet--whatever makes you feel better because this sure relieved me.
- DeejayPancake, on 05/01/2008, -0/+0That's a real blow. +Sarcasm+ No ***** we're in a lot of countries.
- hittnrun, on 04/30/2008, -0/+1Dude, you need to go back and read his REAL words, not what some idiot obamabot told you. We're still in alot of countries. Japan, Germany, BOSNIA, etc. I think you would be suprised at how BAD Obama would be if he got elected. Good thing you will never know. Go smoke a joint. Steal a little music.
- runCMD, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Fantstic! Squirm away guys.
Why is it that Obama Supporters are so dead set on disenfranchising those that CHOOSE to vote for Hillary Clinton. There have been, still are, and are yet more to come that disagree with you. But we don't hate you : ) We understand why you prefer Obama. Give us the same respect. - DeFex, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1The elites do not want him to win so he will not.
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