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Obama Shows His Punch

huffingtonpost.com — For those who feared Obama couldn't throw a punch, he showed both a good jab and a decent left hook in pounding McCain on the economy. That's why the Republican posse is likely to scorn sparring about policy and turn this election into an alley fight, taking out the knives around patriotism, pastors and race.

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  • R0am3r, on 06/11/2008, -57/+26http://meetbarackobama.com/
    • gox35, on 06/11/2008, -11/+12laughable
      • lajaw, on 06/11/2008, -5/+4I'm just so happy that the leftists have another huffingtonpost article make it to the front page. I'll be glad when they can learn to read other sites.
        • petebot, on 06/12/2008, -2/+1I'll be happy when all the "leftist" articles don't have a million comments from rightwingers complaining about how there are so many leftist articles . Submit your own and quit your bitchin'.
    • cricketsymphony, on 06/11/2008, -5/+4http://barackobamaisyournewbicycle.com/
    • damntourists, on 06/11/2008, -6/+7http://www.therealmccain.com
      • tkstock, on 06/11/2008, -4/+2I love it.

        "Why do women give John McCain a zero?"

        when it should be

        "Why does pro-choice advocates give John McCain a zero?"

        It assumes all women are pro-choice. They couldn't be more wrong.

        Maybe the http://meetbarackobama.com website should show all of Obama's gaffes. There's quite a few of them, in case you didn't know.
        • tidu, on 06/11/2008, -1/+3Thanks, because I vote for candidates based on the gaffes they make during speeches.
        • tkstock, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2Judging by the comments and posts on Digg, I would say there are a lot of people with you.
    • kosser, on 06/11/2008, -11/+8Digg people don't want to know his policies. they dont want to know the truth, they want to be blindly lead into reverse slavery.
    • tidu, on 06/11/2008, -2/+4It's kind of funny, you're all calling this website a win for mccain, although mccain's *****-ups are much worse and more numerous than Obama's
    • anillop, on 06/11/2008, -4/+3Let the Swift Boating begin!!!!!! Come on folks lets see how pathetic we can make this election.
    • Darkside2984, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1Digg users spend most of the day looking at pictures of lolcatz and digging up stories about Obama blindly. "Facts" are not good selling points as they do not make them laugh and do not include "pics" or "boobs" or "supercute". Sigh, sometimes I wonder why I even post.
  • Sfenton, on 06/11/2008, -48/+26Believe me, as people start to pay attention to the economic policies that each candidate puts forth. People will feel disgusted by the amount of taxation the citizens of the USA will occur. Our economy is not doing all that great right now, why would you want to screw it up even more by VOTING for Obama.
    • motivatedmama, on 06/11/2008, -12/+201) What "economic policy" has McCain put forth?
      2) Which "people" will feel disgusted I wonder?

      • psiege, on 06/11/2008, -11/+10Well, see...you'd have to pry your butt from your computer chair and disconnect the brain cord that Obama has inserted via a direct conduit from Digg in order to experience anything other than Obama mantra.
        • mummbleswers, on 06/11/2008, -0/+3This isn't even a real reply that has an argument in it. It's just childish name calling, and that's all you guys got for now. I could stoop to that level, but the fact remains - McCain's strong point is not the economy, and guess what? That's what most people care about right now. It's the economy stupid. And I wonder, why do you guys keep fighting for a man that gives tax breaks to the wealthiest of people? You may be in that category, but at least 95% of Americans are not. Obama wants to give you your money back by taxing the richest, and you still criticize the plan! What will it take to get you people to admit ONE thing is good about this guy?!!? Partisan crap. It makes no sense! Why are you defending the wealthy?
      • doctechnical, on 06/11/2008, -6/+4Obama wants to index the minimum wage to inflation. After that howler, having NO economic policy looks like downright genius in comparison.
    • jforjools, on 06/11/2008, -12/+25I belong to the 95% of America that will receive a tax break....I sure as hell know McCain's tax plan is *not* going to help me--but will definitely help out the rich guy.

      If you make more than $200K, go ahead and vote for McCain...but if you make less than that,you just have your head up your ass.
      • gox35, on 06/11/2008, -7/+5How does giving tax breaks to private equity fund entrepreneurs help me or you? It just does not.
      • whiteboyfunk, on 06/11/2008, -1/+11Hip-hip-hooray for uneven taxes! Just because you make more means the government is entitled to take more from you. What a joke.
        • chanop, on 06/11/2008, -4/+5opposed to right now where if you make more money you get bigger breaks. I think the upper class can get taxed more and still be able to afford their 5 summer homes and mercedes
        • Asrrin29, on 06/11/2008, -4/+5why don't you see the mathematics behind your falsities? As numbers increase the relative increase between them decreases. going from 1 to 2 is DOUBLE the number, but going from 99 to 100 is only x1.01 the change. So if someone earns 500 dollars a week and gets taxed %25 percent of that, he is only bringing home 400 dollars. that 100 extra dollars could be the difference between food on the table and starvation. Vice versa, if someone earns 10,000 dollars a week, and you take 33% tax off of that, the person brings home over 6,000 DOLLARS A WEEK. this is an 1100% difference between the poor guy, even though he is being taxed at a higher rate. How do you not understand this?!
        • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -1/+4We understand it fine, I just dont understand why you think its the governments right to take away nearly half a mans income because he makes a bunch of money? I didnt realize there was a cap to how much people were allowed to make in this country. What do the rich people get from the government for paying 3300 a week compared to the guy who pays 100 a week? Must be some awesome ***** if you are paying 1100% more right?
        • whiteboyfunk, on 06/11/2008, -2/+3Basically, Muyoso, yes. Flat tax rates make the most sense to me. One man making triple another man's salary is using the same government provided facilities for the most part, i.e. libraries, public roads which is where taxes were meant to be spent. Hell, they may even be using it less.

          If you're going to skew tax rates, at least do it according to what the consumer does.
        • rawg, on 06/11/2008, -1/+4Government taxes tend to be progressive (take more from the rich) because other forms of taxation (both explicit and implicit), like sales taxes, use taxes, inflation and the falling value of the dollar, tend to be regressive (hurt the poor more than the rich).
      • rawg, on 06/11/2008, -0/+4I'm in the 5% that won't get tax breaks from Obama. I'll probably end up paying more in taxes when he becomes President. ***** it. I'm still voting for him and donating to his campaign because his economic policy is more sound and I believe in his vision for the country.

        In any case, inflation, the falling value of the dollar and the market crash have wiped out any tax gains I've made from the Bush years.
        • motivatedmama, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2A reasoned response. How refreshing! A tug of war over the wealth is futile at this point. We are all truly in this together when things are financially in the crapper, to such an extreme extent as they are now.
    • SoyJames, on 06/11/2008, -11/+22War IS a tax. You don't go in to a war and CUT taxes and tell people to go SHOPPING. WORST economic policy ever. Yay McBush!
      • whiteboyfunk, on 06/11/2008, -2/+4Do you have any real grip or idea of the percentage the war fund pulls from the national budget? Where have you done research about the cost of the war? Many democratic sites will incorporate regular funds such as military or government employee salaries into the deficit of the war. Yeah, that's accurate.
      • masterm1nd, on 06/11/2008, -0/+3Actually, we spend more on our militarily then the rest of the world combined, war or no war.
        • whiteboyfunk, on 06/11/2008, -2/+0Credentials?
        • Timetheos, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1--
          Credentials?
          --
          If you don't like it, come up with something better.
    • ftx437, on 06/11/2008, -1/+7If' he's planing on tax cuts...then why is he for the windfall tax..and after his first couple of years he'll realize that he can't do what he wants because there's no money he's just going to start raising tax's again..
      • mcquitty, on 06/11/2008, -2/+2He says no new taxes for the middle class, right?

        Well, if he is for windfall taxes, he is for taxing the middle class. He just wants to use the oil companies to do it.

        Corporations don't pay taxes. Customers do.
        • motivatedmama, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2I'm becoming confused as to what the true middle class is. McCain's 200k poor folk or the traditional 30k to 50k we're used to? Anyone making 70k and up I just can't shed tears for. With that kind of $$$, knowing how to cut corners the way I do, I'd be quite comfortable. True middle class Americans make just a tad too much to qualify for aid but not enough to pay for the same necessities out of pocket. I guess Bush's "work 3 jobs" plan is for the true middle class. What wonderful, well balanced children we will have!
    • aircows, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2s/occur/incur
    • PabloMac, on 06/11/2008, -5/+2Obama's "decent left hook" will hurt US all.
    • homercles337, on 06/11/2008, -0/+4Well then how do you suggest we pay off our tax loans of the last 7 years? Just keep rolling it over into the next generation until China comes bill collecting?
  • tcbishop12, on 06/11/2008, -18/+118As opposed to the failed trickle down economics of the present administration, Sen. Obama speaks about a "bottom up prosperity", based upon his vision of "putting people first".

    Sen. Obama will lead the way in getting this nation back to investing in education and training.

    He will generate millions of new jobs in a concerted drive for energy independence.

    He will create a national investment bank to rebuild and modernize our aging infrastructure, and put people to work.

    And for our youth - and for those of us who are parents -- President Obama will help make college more affordable.

    He'll offer middle class families (generously defined as making under $150,000) a tax break, while raising taxes on the very wealthy, shutting corporate tax loopholes, imposing an excess profits tax on the oil and gas companies.

    He will also use money saved from ending the Iraq war to invest here at home.

    Appears to be a sound plan for a promising future to me.
    • danfive555, on 06/11/2008, -18/+26Wow...how about tempering those plans with a dose of good economics. Shrink government, balance the budget, paradigm shift the US from borrower nation to lender nation. Get a real economist to develop the policies. Worth a try. Obama is a lawyer, he can't possibly understand all of Economics too.
      • Semirhage527, on 06/11/2008, -12/+15Obama is not without economic advisors:


        Economic policy advisors:
        Jason Furman (director of economy policy) source bio
        Austan Goolsbee (senior economic policy advisor), University of Chicago tax policy expert source Wikipedia website
        Karen Kornbluh (policy director) source bio Wikipedia
        David Cutler, Harvard health policy expert source Wikipedia website
        Jeff Liebman, Harvard welfare expert source Wikipedia website
        Michael Froman, Citigroup executive source bio
        Daniel Tarullo, Georgetown law professor source bio
        David Romer, Berkeley macroeconomist source website
        Christina Romer, Berkeley economic historian source website
        Richard Thaler, University of Chicago behavioral finance expert source Wikipedia
        Robert Rubin, former Treasury Secretary source Wikipedia bio
        Larry Summers, former Treasury Secretary source Wikipedia bio
        Alan Blinder, former Vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve source Wikipedia bio website
        Jared Bernstein, Economic Policy Institute labor economist source bio
        James Galbraith, University of Texas macroeconomist source Wikipedia website
        • JimmySpaza, on 06/11/2008, -17/+3Copy and paste much?
        • Anachronus, on 06/11/2008, -6/+5Ah yes the progressives

          Let's rehash the 1930's ONE MORE TIME.

          Comment will of course be buried for blasphemy.
        • whiteboyfunk, on 06/11/2008, -2/+4That's cool that you found a website with his advisors, but they're no different than he is in terms of democratic standpoints. Enforce higher taxes and increase the government are the message from his pulpit.
        • elrac, on 06/11/2008, -1/+3Reply to Anachronus

          Why not rehash the 1930's, it sure does feel like October of 1929.
        • feebie, on 06/11/2008, -2/+1@JimmySpaza

          Would it really make much of a difference if they typed it all out instead?
      • angryfirelord, on 06/11/2008, -3/+2Yeah, because those same economists also favored the trickle-down crap that has never worked. Not surprising since most of them are rich to begin with.

        I'm all for balancing the budget, but let's be realistic here. If we suddenly cut out all government programs and came home from the war, it still wouldn't be enough to balance it in one or two years. We can still set a goal to slowly reduce our debt and stop relying on the Fed so much, but simply balancing it on a whim isn't possible at this point.
    • JimmySpaza, on 06/11/2008, -24/+9Do you work for the Obama campaign? Your post sounded like a well-rehearsed post.

      I mean, other than a political shill or speech writer, who uses the term "promising future" in everyday conversation?

      Yeah, sounds like you're a plant from the Obama campaign...or Thinkprogress losers.
      • Mejari, on 06/11/2008, -4/+10There's this cool thing about comments sections like this: you can take as long as you want to figure out what you're going to say, so you don't look stupid and make the most sense that you can. I can tell you haven't figured that out yet, though.
      • Baldar, on 06/11/2008, -2/+4Or maybe we're seeing the first of the Obama campaigns internet damage control guys that a story here was talking about the other day. :P
        • dafunkmonster, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2No, then we'd be seeing a bunch of "FIXED: Obama is the best person ever to live on planet earth. I want to have his babies, because he is an amazing father. P.S. he's not an alien.OBAMA08!!!"s
    • Troy64, on 06/11/2008, -16/+23I hear he is also going to deliver presents to children around the world at Christmas.

      And he can do it all by only raising taxes on the evil rich people and evil oil companies.
    • kosser, on 06/11/2008, -6/+10Get ready for max taxation, and carbon credits so you can be controlled by our great government.
    • ExGhost, on 06/11/2008, -3/+15I hope you don't mind losing some of that freedom in the process. Oh, and higher taxes! Hurray for taxes! Steal from the rich to feed the poor. He's a regular Robin Hood! I can't wait to be taxed to death.
      • meamog, on 06/11/2008, -5/+6If you make $150,000+/year and couldn't manage a tax increase, I feel for you.

        • Troy64, on 06/11/2008, -1/+6If you live in New York, California or a few other states that is not that much money.

          When it is all said and done it will be more likely if you make sixty thousand you will get your taxes raised. I have been around long enough to see how Democratic taxes on the rich work. I was suddenly rich when Clinton was president and I was only making $42K back then.
        • ExGhost, on 06/12/2008, -0/+4What you don't seem to understand is that the rich don't make a wage, they own businesses. Where do you think they pass those taxes off to? The consumer!

          I would rather see them STOP WASTING my tax dollars than to tax anyone further!
      • Hamletlere, on 06/11/2008, -1/+12Losing some of that freedom? You mean what little is left from the current administration?

        Look, I am a fiscal conservative. I want a balanced budget. I like the idea of low taxes. I don't want a "tax and spend" government. But I want a "tax cut and spend" government even less, which is what the current administration is giving us.

        That sort of running up the nation deficit (like the unfunded war in Iraq) makes people think these things have no cost. How many people would support the war if taxes were raised to the level it would take to actually fund it? Once upon a time, our government called on people to actually make sacrifices for this sort of thing. Now, they pretend it doesn't cost Americans a dime. Our children will be paying the price for us.

        I'll take high taxes if it gives a balanced budget. At least then, everyone will understand exactly how much our government is actually spending of our money, and rally around those candidates that will reduce said spending.
        • kevinzak21, on 06/11/2008, -1/+4Kudos on being logical. Not to stereotype, but that's not something I encounter very often from someone who describes themselves as a fiscal conservative. You, sir, have been Dugg.
        • rawg, on 06/11/2008, -0/+3It's not just our children who will be paying for this policy. We're paying for it now through increased inflation, energy costs and the falling value of the dollar. Direct taxation isn't the only way that our government policies affect our income.
      • zydeco, on 06/11/2008, -2/+1You should have thought about the bill before invading Iraq.
    • doctechnical, on 06/11/2008, -2/+12...and then 10,000 monkeys will fly out of his ass and sing the Hallelujah Chorus.
    • executorzz, on 06/11/2008, -1/+5C'mon don't tell me anyone honestly believes any of that fluff will happen. Otherwise the future of this country will be in the hands of some gullible people.
    • badfrog, on 06/11/2008, -2/+12You forgot to mention the free pudding delivered by unicorns.
    • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -3/+11OBAMA isnt going to do any of those things, OBAMA is going to take YOUR money, and MY money, and everyone elses money who works, and use it on those things. He is an economic moron. Government intervention in every ***** program under the sun is not how to improve this country.
      • honesttussey, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1So what's that make McCain?
        • doctechnical, on 06/11/2008, -0/+8A piss-poor excuse for a conservative, as usual.
        • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -3/+3He is an economic moron as well, but at least he doesnt want to increase income taxes, social security taxes, corporate taxes, and ***** the country up its proverbial *****.
        • FairDinkumMate, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2Nah why would he bother. For McCain, leaving the bill for the next generation to deal with is a short term policy!
        • Troy64, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1McCain is just saying he is not going to raise taxes to get elected. It is the only thing that keeps conservatives barely hanging onto his candidacy. He will end up doing whatever Lieberman tells him he should do
      • zydeco, on 06/11/2008, -3/+5I'll be happy to give it to government programs (which go back to the people), instead of KB&R and Haliburton.
        • dafunkmonster, on 06/11/2008, -1/+3Back to people who don't work, or perhaps to people don't even live in the US. (see Global Poverty Act)
        • YourDoom123, on 06/12/2008, -1/+2I would much rather give my money to the poor than to the rich. One group could use the money. The other group can live without.
      • devilsh, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2Tax and spend liberal! Booga booga booga!! He's gonna git ya!
        (psst! he's black too!)

        Wake up dude... and look around... we must save the country from corporate interests and put the American people first before it's too late...
        • Troy64, on 06/12/2008, -2/+2You have to put he's black so if we vote against him we are racist.

          I would rather take my chances on corporate America to solve my problems rather than government. In case you haven't noticed our government is corrupt, whether you are a Republican or Democrat. Any extra money you give them will be spent in the most inefficient way possible. It will not be used to pay down debt. Outside of election talk, they don't think that way.
        • YourDoom123, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3And in what way are they corrupt? Let's see, corporate lobbyists, no-bid contracts, military-industrial complex, etc.. See a pattern?
    • pidgas, on 06/11/2008, -2/+3"When you meet the friendliest people you have ever known, who introduce you to the most loving group of people you've ever encountered, and you find the leader to be the most inspired, caring, compassionate and understanding person you've ever met, and then you learn the cause of the group is something you never dared hope could be accomplished, and all of this sounds too good to be true - it probably is too good to be true!"

      - Jeannie Mills, early defector from the Peoples Temple
    • runCMD, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2Wow. you make Obama sound powerful beyond belief. I hope he lives up to that image for you.
    • lastmaster, on 06/12/2008, -1/+0Wow, you make Obama sound like a better wizard then Harry Potter, Or way a magician way better than David Blaine. Maybe we can see an alliance if he choses Criss Angel as his running mate?
      • lastmaster, on 06/12/2008, -0/+0(looks like i need a grammar magician)
  • alapoet, on 06/11/2008, -15/+75tcbishop12 is absolutely on target.

    Obama's plan certainly sounds a lot better to me than McCain's plan, which is pretty much four more dismal years of Bush's failed policies.
    • tcbishop12, on 06/11/2008, -15/+6Thanks, my friend. How 'bout them Lakers? (smile)

      Pretty ugly win, but hey, we'll take it here in LA any way we can get them.
    • Atlatal, on 06/11/2008, -13/+6Obama will be four more years of Jimmy Carter!
      • LemurDaddy, on 06/11/2008, -0/+6You do realize you just hung a sign around your neck that says, "I am very, very old," right?
        • texpundit, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1I lived through the whole Carter debacle...and remember all of it...and I'm not even 40 yet...so stuff it.
      • cathpah, on 06/11/2008, -0/+3and an idiot too.
      • angryfirelord, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1At least Jimmy Carter realized that we needed to get off of oil as fast as possible. Now, 30 years later we're finally doing something about it. Plus, you didn't mention the even larger amounts of stagflation that occurred under the Bush administration (which I notice most conservative economists never talk about).

        Reagan, for all the hype that he created, actually INCREASED the deficit and started the neo-conservative movement that has lead up to this crisis. After Bush, another Carter administration administration would be a breath of fresh air.
        • texpundit, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Actually, no. Reagan was sucked in by the neo-conservative movement. The beginnings of the movement actually start in the 30s at New York University. Neocons are actually liberal hawks that left the Democrat party in the late 60s/early 70s (due to the ascendence of the peace movement) and *infected* the Republican party with their bile and poison.

          tl;dr: lrn2history
    • executorzz, on 06/11/2008, -0/+4Can you name something from McCain's plan?
      • rblancarte, on 06/11/2008, -1/+6I can:
        He wants to continue with the tax cuts that Bush implemented.
        Give additional Tax Cuts (estimated $300 Billion per year) for for corporations and the wealthy (cutting the estate tax)
        He has also talked about keeping us in Iraq for 100 years.
        He wanted to cut the gas tax, which has been shown to be a bad idea because it would take away money from our roads.

        Basically, he is attempting more of the trickle down economics that started in the Regan era, continued through Clinton and are still continued by Bush.

        Is Obama's solution perfect? No, but it is certainly better than McCain's.
        • dafunkmonster, on 06/11/2008, -3/+2Obama's plan is that American's don't know how to spend their own money, and he is going to spend it for them. Obama is basically saying that our free market economy is a failing model, and he wants to implement something different.

          I don't know about you, but that sounds ***** scary to me.
        • rblancarte, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2The fact that we have out of control credit card debt shows me that people do not know how to spend their own money.

          HOWEVER, that isn't the point. I want to know exactly where Obama is trying to spend my money?

          He wants to give me a tax break to the tune of almost $1K, so that I have more money in my pocket. He is trying to help out the little guy, while getting money from those who have the most money because they are the people who should be paying more taxes anyway. He wants to make sure that the non-wealthy can spend money to help themselves .

          What is this rhetoric of which you speak? Tell me exactly what is scary about his plan. Tell me WHERE he is saying he is going to tell me how to spend my money, or spend it for me.
        • executorzz, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1How are tax cuts for corporations a bad thing? If my company gets a tax break I get a bigger raise and bonus. OR they will reinvest back to the company and create more jobs. Money has to be reinvested. Its how capitalism works.

          I'm happy because I make more. Somenone else is happy because they may have a new job. The government is happy because if I make more then I pay more personal taxes OR if someone new enters payroll they start paying taxes.

      • cathpah, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1that would require mccain to actually HAVE a plan...and not just rely on the same old failing policies.
    • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -4/+6Of course his plan sounds better, he has promised everything but a ***** personal hooker to everyone in this country making under 150,000 dollars a year. How COULDNT his plan sound better? The question isnt what sounds better, its what can this country afford to do, and can the country survive his term after he increases spending by 45 trillion dollars.
      • tidu, on 06/11/2008, -1/+345 trillion?

        Well, McCain's policies (Bush's) have put us 9 trillion in debt. I'd rather go for the alternative than what has already been proven to fail.
        • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -3/+3Its sad if you have to compare your candidates OUTRAGEOUS spending habits to what we spent on 2 wars after the WORST terrorist attack in American history, as well as an economic turndown and the end to the housing bubble. Add on top of that, Bush, and his retarded policies. BUT seriously, you are trying to compare your candidate to all of that, and he STILL would spend more.
      • 1033, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Its funny the people hes helping shouldn't bitch they don't pay enough taxes anyways. So now you have a bunch of slackers all chanting for their free money, giving their vote at will, that the hard working tax payers cover. Yeah if I decided to take a bunch of drugs, have a kid, and scratch up my police record... well I would vote Obama and stick it to those evil rich people too.
  • jforjools, on 06/11/2008, -16/+60I've alway, always believed that Obama could throw a punch. He was just being very, very careful about throwing punches at fellow dems...He knew that he'd eventually need those voters in the general election.

    I realize that there are Clinton supporters that are pissed and bummed. Their candidate put up an awesome fight--and they feel rooked that she's not going to be the next prez. But I hope they realize that Obama had the chance to 'feed the beast' many times--and declined. The Bosnia thing was virtually left untouched by Obama (but not by the press)...And at a time when it would've been to his advantage--as away to distract from Wright. He did, however, (just like his opponent) throw a few jabs--and that's what some Clinton supporters are remembering right now.

    But a new fight is on. I hope Obama's carbing up; he's gonna be throwing a *lot* of punches.

    • danfive555, on 06/11/2008, -20/+3At least with Clinton we knew we were getting a politician, while Obama is more of a wonderboy, messiah to the masses. I don't know what fight you refer to McCain is self-destructing.
      • SmartfulDodger, on 06/11/2008, -1/+10If you spent a few minutes to read up on Obama's history, you'd find out for yourself what experience our new nominee has in politics. It's not like this is his first time on the job.....stop waiting for your television to inform you!
    • amenic, on 06/11/2008, -8/+1Yea with Alzheimer's - after his first term t will be another 4 years of the same and yet to him it will be brand new again!

    • HellDonut, on 06/11/2008, -0/+6This is something I'll never understand. Obama always declined to lower himself to attack Clinton the way she was attacking him; he never used smears or false attacks (like claiming the opponent was afraid of debates, asking for "shame!" when the opponent was absolutely right like the NAFTA thing, etc); still, despite Obama staying above this all, some Hillary supporters are constantly claiming he was the one attacking her viciously. How can this be, I don't know.
      • jforjools, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2It's because of Hillary's strong attacks against Obama. She painted him to be the devil...and her supporters believed her. Now that she's changed her tune, it's hard to quickly convince her followers. --But I hope she keeps trying.

        Looking at the latest polling data, Obama looks stronger with women than does McC. So, I think it's coming around already...but the news will continute to give voice to those Hillary supporters that are going to McC (or thinking about it)--just cuz it's a story.
  • FrankHope, on 06/11/2008, -15/+7OBAMA: John McCain and I have a fundamentally different vision of where to take the country.

    Uh, not really. Obama sang in unison with McCain at AIPAC. Unless he is willing to stand up to the Israel Lobby, then there is no difference. The same Neocons will still be running the government. Obama told AIPAC that he supported their policy of war with Iran.

    What ever happened to Obama's policy of standing up to lobbyists? AIPAC is the most corrupting lobby in the US. They are the ones that gave us War with Iraq, and are now pushing for War with Iran. Obama is just another AIPAC puppet.
    • darkened, on 06/11/2008, -1/+4And people bury you?
    • Andyschism, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1This is the single thing that I disagree with Obama on, but I will still be voting for him. Then it will be up to me to change his mind.
    • FairDinkumMate, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1How does talking to a lobby group make you a puppet?
      Taking huge amounts of campaign donations from the lobby before, during or after speaking to them is an issue I can understand you complaining about. But 'speaking' to them puts him in their pocket?
      And did he say anything bad, reckless or offensive? No. He basically just said that he would defend Israels right to exist. WOW. There are probably only 3 or 4 nations in the world whose right to exist he WOULDN'T defend.
    • FelixdaaHack, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Isreal has no strategic importance to the US and yet we see Obama continuing the AIPAC rhetoric

      What happened to change...just a bunch of typical political BS and you suckers fell for it
  • JimmySpaza, on 06/11/2008, -29/+18More campaign blather from the leftwing Huffington Post. Why don't they just admit that they work directly for the Democratic Party?
    • robotavailable, on 06/11/2008, -4/+9what should we tell Fox News?
      • JimmySpaza, on 06/12/2008, -3/+2This is about the liberal Huffington Post and nothing else. Do try to stay on topic.
    • ftx437, on 06/11/2008, -5/+5people digg you down for stating the obvious, but if you mention fox and mccain you get dugg up..shut up you hypocrites..
    • SethEllis, on 06/11/2008, -4/+3No kidding. Story buried simply because it's from the Huffington Post.
  • Tex, on 07/28/2008, -6/+66I don't know, that punch could've been a "terrorist fist jab."
    • Memitim, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1I don't think so. If Obama breaks out the terrorist fist jab then McCain might challenge him to a cage match. And I hear the old bastard knows a thing or two about that.
  • NoDrama, on 06/11/2008, -7/+5Exactly, Shem - I'm sure somebody on the mainstream level will pick that up eventually. Surely at least some of them are clever enough to read digg for storylines...

    I can see the headline now.
    "Obama throws terrorist fist jab at McCain!"
    • JulyZerg, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1There's "reply" for a reason, you know...
  • Skywise, on 06/11/2008, -14/+10How's that impeachment going Huff?
  • thepeacemaker, on 06/11/2008, -6/+25Check out how much you'll be taxed with each of these guys.
    -----------
    http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candi ...

    MCCAIN OBAMA
    Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
    Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
    $603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
    $227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
    $161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
    $112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
    $66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
    $38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
    $19K-$38K -$113 -$892
    Under $19K -$19 -$567
    Source:The Tax Policy Center
    • sulthernao, on 06/11/2008, -1/+14Oh my Progressive taxes! So pretty much as long as you are making under 603K Obama won't really hurt you, even though he is a nasty tax and spend liberal. Might I ask how John McCain plans to pay for the Iraq war?
      • afodrick, on 06/11/2008, -0/+8When asked this question the other day on CNBC, his only response was that we're winning the Iraq war, inferring that we will not have to spend as much over there. Sounds like the same type of rhetoric we used to hear from Hillary.
      • publiclurker, on 06/11/2008, -1/+3Don't bother asking McCain, ask your grandkids.
      • mummbleswers, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1"even though he is a nasty tax and spend liberal." I don't know if this is sarcastic, but if it isn't and that's a term you really believe, can I take this moment to commend you! I mean if you are a right winger and you are willing to pull your head out of your ass for just one moment to admit McCain has no clue how to pay for this war... Well, it's a sign of intellect in my book. Good show. And I just want to add that I am voting for Obama, but I have absolutely no problem people voting for McCain, AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THE ISSUES ON BOTH SIDES. Anything after that is your right as an American.
    • RevFredSanford, on 06/11/2008, -0/+7sorry, the information is nice (thanks for the link) but the copy-n-paste is illegible
    • Aadain, on 06/11/2008, -0/+5Now that's a great example of the difference each candidate would have the country. I would save more money in taxes with Obama than with McCain!
      • blackinthmiddle, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1I'd lose a couple grand (I guess I'm considered wealthy, which I'm not, but whatever), but I understand. Remember the George H.W. Bush "read my lips, no new taxes" debacle? If you want to increase spending on health care and we have a war in Iraq and we want to subsidize the energy program that Obama's talking about and we want to shore up social security and we want to spend more on education (and on and on and on), but want to believe the b.s. that it can be done without raising taxes, we're fooling ourselves.
    • Hazardc, on 06/11/2008, -10/+8wait a minute, if you make 2.9 million dollars, with obama you're going to pay 700k MORE in taxes than you already do? what the ***** is the point in making that much money if they're going to take almost a third of it on top of what they already take?!


      Im all for making the wealthy pay their taxes, and hate their little offshore tricks and all of that, but give me a break.
      • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -3/+3Makes you wonder why people like Ted Kennedy, who fight for higher taxes, hide their money in offshore trust funds so that its not taxed. Liberals are truly all about making their policies apply to EVERYONE ELSE, and not themselves.
        • mcquitty, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2Or someone like Mr. Kennedy, who says we need to get off foreign oil but refuses to allow Americans to drill for oil in America. Or put up Windfarms where he can see them.
      • zorikin, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2The super rich will still be able to piss away more money in a year than you will ever see in a lifetime.
    • MadCactus, on 06/11/2008, -1/+6Fancy that. Barack gives me a bigger tax break than McSame. Sure is amazing how much a progressive tax structure would help me and my army of bitter regular folk.
    • frolet, on 06/11/2008, -6/+1Does this include CAPITAL GAINS??
      • SocialPoison, on 06/11/2008, -2/+3Why does everyone complain so much about capital gains tax... it only legitimately affects investors (read: people who have money anyways).
        • mcquitty, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1Or people like me who spend less than I earn and want to save it for my retirement.
        • afodrick, on 06/11/2008, -0/+0I dugg you down, but now I'm rethinking my decision because maybe your comment was sarcastic. Or maybe you're just young and don't have much money yet to have invested, but if this is the case, isn't your goal to eventually invest in some stock or bond assets? I'm not saying I'm completely against higher capital gains tax, but I can see where these complaints stem from, working in an office with option traders who whine about B-Rock's alleged capital gains tax imposition all day every day.
        • frolet, on 06/11/2008, -1/+0SocialPoison - you've got to be kidding me. Just because someone saves a portion of their income in hopes of retirement, doesn't mean that they are rich. The government already takes away a huge chunk of my income. A higher capital gains rate just discourages individual savings and financial responsibility.
      • angryfirelord, on 06/11/2008, -0/+0He hasn't made anything official about it. On the skewed ABC debate, he would go as high as 28%, but recent word has said that he would only go from 20% to 25%. We won't know unless he makes an official announcement.
    • pintomp3, on 06/11/2008, -0/+9The Tax Policy Center estimates that over 10 years, McCain's tax proposals could increase the national debt by as much as $4.5 trillion with interest
    • ytsejam29, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1"Under both plans, all American taxpayers could pay a price for their tax cuts: a bigger deficit. The Tax Policy Center estimates that over 10 years, McCain's tax proposals could increase the national debt by as much as $4.5 trillion with interest, while Obama's could add as much as $3.3 trillion."

      3rd party, here I come...
    • YourDoom123, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Thanks for that. I'm gonna reference this every time I see someone say that Obama will increase taxes.
    • Darkside2984, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Congress approves all this. I am so sick of Americans not understanding the roles of the different parts of our government. There is a reason that Congress has half the approval rating of Bush right now.
  • chrissku, on 06/11/2008, -16/+15Wow.....you never the Huffington Post on the front page of digg. (sarcasm)
    • Andrwmorph, on 06/11/2008, -4/+2Does somebody have to whine about it every time it happens?
  • seanmx, on 06/11/2008, -4/+24Obama Said Knock You Out
    • PabloMac, on 06/11/2008, -0/+3With a "left" hook.
    • rawg, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2Now there's an idea for a YouTube video mashup. Excellent!
    • kevinzak21, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2That, sir, was a *great* reference.
  • RevJonathan, on 06/11/2008, -6/+9This maybe the cheesiest description I've ever seen on Digg.
  • nblsavage, on 06/11/2008, -3/+9"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
    • dafunkmonster, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1Who the hell is Samuel Johnson, and why do I care what he said?
      • tyleredw, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1He's only one of the most outstanding figures of 18th-century England, and a famous author and poet.

        If you didn't know who he was, why didn't you take the time to educate yourself for 5 minutes to figure it out. Instead you chose to remain ignorant, and instead bash anything you don't understand. Get out from your rock, and do something useful.
        • dafunkmonster, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Congratulations, you googled Samuel Johnson, and now you're so much more enlightened than I...please, allow me to bow before your ultimate greatness...

          Point is, that quote has nothing to do with the article. Way to be an arrogant dick.
      • ReyX, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2I think he was on Snakes on a Plane or something.
  • SuperVepr308, on 06/11/2008, -13/+12Bana bana bo fana can't punch; he's emo.
  • jerwin, on 06/11/2008, -20/+13But at the end of the day, the biggest problem Obama is going to have is that he is an anti-military socialist.

    The American people don't have a ton of love for anti-military socialists. The Probama folks can make all the noise they want, in November it is the silent majority who elect the president, and this guy simply cannot win the masses. He cannot hide who he really is.

    Let the Digg-down begin!
    • nblsavage, on 06/11/2008, -5/+121. Prove he is a socialist
      2. Prove he is anti-military.

      I'm willing to bet you won't reply to this. You types never do.
      • merlin5, on 06/11/2008, -7/+3My god! Take the blinders off. That he has Socialist views and is anti-millitary is all over his public record. I thought that was why all the Libs were a twitter over him. If not, then why do you like him?.
        • nblsavage, on 06/11/2008, -1/+7Really, then it shouldn't be a problem for you to provide me with the info right?
        • MmmPi, on 06/11/2008, -1/+5Wouldn't wanting to add to the GI bill be pro-military? Is anti-war and anti-military the same thing? I think we have the biggest military in the world and its only getting bigger, wouldn't make sense to maybe spend SOME of that money on something else? Maybe debt? I don't know and I'm not committed but, I feel labels like these get thrown around a lot.
      • jerwin, on 06/11/2008, -6/+6The fact that you have to ask for proof indicates that you are one of the few but very loud Probama followers (HOPE FOR CHANGE!).

        He is ON RECORD stating that he will make DRAMATIC CUTS in military spending, weapons research etc. He is ON RECORD stating that he wants to control CEO income and tax the crap out of the 'wealthy' (who already pay 85% of the taxes) to pay for government medical programs. He is ON RECORD stating that income redistribution is a wonderful thing.

        Wake up and listen rather than falling for the silky voice. The words actually mean something.
        • nblsavage, on 06/11/2008, -2/+5again - how is that "Anti-military"? I consider the military the people actually doing the fighting not the military-industrial complex.
        • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -2/+3Well see, when you stop funding their weapons and armor, they dont ***** get them. When they dont get them, you either make the military smaller, or you send unarmed people over to fight in places. How is that PRO military?
        • bjs3171, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1socialism does not equal communism.
      • dafunkmonster, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Obama wants universal healthcare, sending billions of money to Africa to "help combat poverty" (poverty is basically inevitable in a 3rd world undeveloped nation, by the way), he wants to eliminate all fissile material from the planet in 4 years (that includes material for nuclear power), and he wants to cut all weapons research and production.

        Essentially, he wants to thin out the dollar by spreading it all over the world for free, he wants to redistribute American wealth to people who didn't work to get it, and he wants to ensure that in the next world war, the United States will end up like central europe: completely raped.
    • Findeton, on 06/11/2008, -2/+4¿So? ¿Is it bad to be a social-democrat liberal anti-militarist? I'm an european and here it's pretty normal. In fact i'm spanish and our president is a social-democrat.

      I mean... here we have something called Universal Healthcare, so when you have a health problem, you don't have to pay, nothing at all, and it doesn't matter how expensive is the treatment, it's given to you for free. And guess what, each spanish pays for his healthcare (through taxes) about 4 times less than you do. Not bad huh?
      • jerwin, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2And what exactly is your marginal tax rate on your personal income? I believe in the 'nothing is free' mantra, so your claims of paying 4x less than we do in the US for complete and absolute health care for all are probably not verifiable.

        Never in the history of humans has a totally socialist society succeeded as it causes people to stop being productive (why bother?) which quickly leads to the collapse of the system.
        • Findeton, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1"Never in the history of humans has a totally socialist society succeeded as it causes people to stop being productive (why bother?) which quickly leads to the collapse of the system."

          Never in the history of humans has a totally capitalist society existed. Society is always a mix. ¿Do you even know what social-democracy means? It means capitalism with intervention on the market done by the government when the gov thinks it's necesary. Yeah, exactly, that's what every western society has. You also have a social democracy, not a pure capitalist society.

          I'm against a pure socialist society, but i'm also against a pure capitalist society (you know when we had our nearest aproach in history to a pure capitalist society? It was in XIX). I'm for a social democracy, just like we all have.
      • dafunkmonster, on 06/11/2008, -2/+1Um, didn't you guys bend over and take it in the ass, letting the public transportation bombings dictate who your leader is? I really have no interest in what you have to say.

        And I'd be interested to hear what your doctors, surgeons, and medical specialists have to say about their bank accounts...
        • Findeton, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1You say we bend over, but you just didn't know the situation here atm. The bombings happened 3 days before the elections, but we've had MASSIVE demonstrations against Iraq's invasion for months and about 90% of the population was against us getting involved in the invasion. It was vecause of those demonstrations and not because of the bombings that we elected Zapatero. In fact, Zapatero had made the promise to get the hell out of Iraq if he won SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE THE BOMBINGS.

          So you just showed your ignorance on the subject.
      • FairDinkumMate, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2Americans(of either party) will NEVER understand universal healthcare. The US media(who earn HUGE revenues from healthcare advertising) regularly run horror stories on Mrs.Jones in Canada who had to wait 6 months for a life-saving operation, blah, blah, blah.
    • dafunkmonster, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1Amen, jerwin. The New Deal fell on its face, it was the war that got us out. Social Security is about to bankrupt the nation, and Obama has no plans for correcting that. To top it all off, he wants to implement more expensive social programs, and he thinks Americans will stand for it...its almost comical to think that Americans would be ok with a 35% income tax.
  • bry0000000, on 06/11/2008, -10/+16What? Obama threw a punch? He must be a terrorist.

    /foxnews
  • laserdog, on 06/11/2008, -4/+5I hope they don't resort to folding chairs made of gay marriage!
  • xGORDOx, on 06/11/2008, -12/+21Is this Digg or the Huffington Post?
    • badfrog, on 06/11/2008, -3/+9Yes. I'm tired of huffpost on the front page 3 times every single damn day.
      Please ban their links.
    • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -0/+9How about this, when was the last time an critical article on Obama hit the front page? Oh wait, one NEVER has? He must be the incarnation of jesus then. What a terrible influence digg is on its readers.
      • dafunkmonster, on 06/11/2008, -0/+3He can't be the reincarnation of Jesus. Jesus was too smart to run for public office.
  • kushed, on 06/11/2008, -12/+7Write in Ron Paul, you don't have to vote for the lesser of two evil.
    • Aadain, on 06/11/2008, -2/+5But this is the first election where I DON'T have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Obama is not the lesser, he's actually a good candidate. Ron Paul has some good ideas on finance and how it influences our foreign policy, but he's not an all-around good candidate. Maybe Obama can given him a position in his cabinet, where RP can do a LOT of good for the country.
      • PabloMac, on 06/11/2008, -1/+4How's that Kool-Aid?
      • loki49152, on 06/11/2008, -2/+3Obama is a throwback to the Fascist "Progressive" era of the early 20th Century. His ideas of how politics and economics actually work are *embarrassing*.

        Obama is only charismatic. That is the only trait of his that makes him a good candidate. It will *not* make him a good President.
      • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -0/+3Wait, what is "good" about Obama other than the fact that you like that he is a black man running for office? His policies are further left of anyone who has ever ran. He throws around "hope" and "change" so dumb people don't listen to actual policy ideas.
  • DaDrake, on 06/11/2008, -11/+12In what economist book does increasing taxes during an economic slowdown seem like a positive thing? How about Obama not increase taxes on anyone, keep the Bush's tax cuts which helped middle-class Americans, and get rid of all the federalist programs we don't need. Whenever the government gets their hands on cash, they can turn it to ***** overnight.
    • Aadain, on 06/11/2008, -1/+9Most people would see a tax cut, while only people making $600,000+ would see an increase. I think decreasing taxes for 80%+ of the population would do a lot to help the economy, while not creating a huge deficit for our country.
      • bleutuna, on 06/11/2008, -1/+5Shhhh, you can't tell him that! He's gotta' have his FUD! Needs that FUD fix everyday! OMG, gotta' have it!


      • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -2/+5So you dont think that people who make and pay the most money in taxes are going to pass along these huge ***** tax increases to the poorest of the people? You know, the people that they employ? So a farmer who is making say a million a year, but also has 100 people working for him, is going to pay 70% of his income to the government why? And you dont think that is going to ***** his business, and the people who are working for him, and the people who purchase his goods?
        • FairDinkumMate, on 06/11/2008, -1/+3Do you have ANY IDEA what you are talking about? The taxes you are referring to are INCOME taxes. So no business, farmer or otherwise, is going to PASS THE CUTS on because INCOME taxes are payable on HIS salary, not the business profit.
          Also, please provide a link showing ANYONE proposing a 70% income tax rate - MORON
      • DaDrake, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1Aadain he said he will raise the capital gains tax to 27% to make it "fair" while acknowledging it will lower investments (and hence, have a negative effect on the economy).

        109 MILLION Americans benefit from our current capital gains taxes. This must be a tax cut for them also?
      • YourDoom123, on 06/12/2008, -0/+280%? try 95%
  • IceSt0rm, on 06/11/2008, -5/+5republicans will just call this another obama terrorist fist jab
  • MacroDaemon, on 06/11/2008, -5/+12Once again the Huffington Post has shown itself to be a beacon of fair and balanced reporting.
  • TriZz, on 06/11/2008, -8/+25Greatest . Description . Ever:

    FTA: "In contrast, Obama calls for a "bottom up prosperity," based upon his version of putting people first. He wants to invest in education and training. He'd generate millions of new jobs in a concerted drive for energy independence. He'll create a national investment bank to rebuild and modernize our aging infrastructure, and put people to work. He'll help make college more affordable. He'll offer middle class families (generously defined as making under $150,000) a tax break, while raising taxes on the wealthy, shutting corporate tax loopholes, imposing an excess profits tax on the oil and gas companies, and using money saved from ending the Iraq war to invest here at home."

    This is why he's got my vote. I don't give a ***** about his birth name, his religion, or what book he chooses to swear in on. Show me a man of principle and I'll show you my vote.
    • bleutuna, on 06/11/2008, -0/+3EXACTLY.
    • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -4/+3So why should the government be raising taxes on anyone again? Why do we need all of these programs run by the government? And why won't Obama reduce the size of government, which EVERYONE knows to be incredibly wasteful?

      You are admiring him for all the wrong principles.
      • blackinthmiddle, on 06/11/2008, -0/+3"So why should the government be raising taxes on anyone again?"

        Well for starters, he's inherited a war that he has to pay for. Now the key is for him to also eliminate fat within the system. Companies like Haliburton getting open spigots to taxpayer's money immediately comes to mind.
        • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Wait, how does ANY of that relate to taxes? Why can't the government CUT programs? You know, REDUCE THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT?
        • blackinthmiddle, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1How does paying for stuff have to do with coming up with ways to pay for them? Do I have to explain *that* to you? And yes, as I mentioned, cutting fat would also help. But cutting fat alone won't pay for the huge amount of debt our next president will inherit.
    • zydeco, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Yet, sadly, that's what we'll be arguing about from now until November.
    • dafunkmonster, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1What about his birthplace?
  • ColonelJessup, on 06/11/2008, -24/+10A PAID POLITICAL ANNOUNCEMENT
    BY SENATOR BARACK OBAMA (D-IL)

    My fellow Americans,

    As your future president I want to thank voters of all political stripes for their mindless support, despite my complete lack of any legislative achievement, my pastor’s ties with Louis Farrakhan and Libyan dictator Moamar Quadafi, and my blatantly liberal voting record while I present myself as some sort of bipartisan agent of change.

    I also like how my supporters claim my youthful drug use and criminal behaviour somehow qualifies me for the presidency after 8 years of claiming Bush’s drinking disqualifies him. Your hypocrisy is a beacon of hope shining over a sea of political chicanery.

    I would also like to thank the Kennedys for coming out in support of me. There’s a lot of glamour behind the Kennedy name, even though JFK started the Vietnam War, his brother Robert illegally wiretapped Martin Luther King Jr., they both slept with Marilyn, and Teddy’s negligence caused the death of a young girl. I’m not going anywhere near the Kennedy cousins, especially Michael Skakel.

    And I’d like to thank Oprah Winfrey for her support. Her love of meaningless empty platitudes will be the force that propels me to the White House.

    Americans should vote for me, not because of my lack of experience or achievement, but because I make people feel good. White people who vote for me get some relief from their racist guilt.

    I say things that sound meaningful but don’t really mean anything because Americans are tired of things having meaning. If things have meaning, then that means you have to think.
    Americans are tired of thinking. It’s time to shut down the brain and open up the heart.

    So when you go to vote in the general election, remember don’t think, just do. And do it for me.

    Thanking you in advance.
    Barack
    • CyclonusRIP, on 06/11/2008, -2/+1Sure there are plenty of idiots on digg, but that doesn't mean Obama hasn't said anything about his politics, and you didn't say anything besides accuse of him of not saying anything and then go to tie him to other people's sins. And if you look around at McCain's people I'm sure you'll find many people you can use to put negative labels on him, but then you're just talking about nothing which is exactly what you're criticizing to start with.
  • Troy64, on 06/11/2008, -11/+11Both Obama and McCain are clueless on how to fix the economy. At this point I am almost routing for Obama to win so the mess that follows won't be blamed on the Republicans.
    • QaSpel, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2So how do you fix the economy? If you give me a good answer, I'll vote for you.
      • Troy64, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2If you really want to know.

        First you must realize the economy is cyclical and it will actually turn itself around. What you don't want to do is anything that will exacerbate the problem, like raising taxes or adding new regulations to solve imaginary global weather problems.

        Second open up all of the United States for drilling of oil, build refineries, and nuclear power plants, wind turbines and anything else that will help with the energy problem.

        There are more things but I don't have time to get into them right now. I have to go outside and do yardwork.

        • kevinzak21, on 06/11/2008, -2/+1So you believe everything will "work itself out in the end", you don't think global warming exists, you want to bring in more nuclear waste, and you go *outside*?

          Communist.
        • Troy64, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Have you ever taken an economics class. The economy is cyclical it will go up and down on it's own. The worst thing you can do is raise taxes. That takes money out of the economy causing it to slow further. Right now the the cost of energy is acting as a tax and pulling money out of the economy. that is why we need to find more energy.

          Nuclear energy is the safest cleanest form of energy there is. It is running all of Europe, and it has running our navy for 40 years without a single accident. They are building permanent storage for nuclear waste in New Mexico.

          As far as being a Communist, I am not the one that wants the government to control every aspect of my life and I believe that the private sector can spend money more effectively than government.
  • Treoinmypocket, on 06/11/2008, -14/+9Obama can win - if the media ignores the policy debate and McCain tries to play nice.

    Obama will get trounced if the media actually talks about his socialist policies honestly.

    BTW - I hate McCain.
  • drmangrum, on 06/11/2008, -12/+19Seriously, can we stop with the huffington post spam?
    • PabloMac, on 06/11/2008, -1/+4fluffingtonpost
    • skteoievtehr, on 06/12/2008, -2/+1This always boggles my mind. People digg what they like. If the Huffington Post is popular, that's because people LIKE IT. Don't like it? Submit your own stories. If people like them, they'll digg them, if not, deal with it or go to a different site. Sounds logical, right?
  • TheRedSp4de, on 06/11/2008, -6/+8McCain and Obama are both novices when it comes to economics...
    • blackinthmiddle, on 06/11/2008, -2/+2Your statement is pretty dumb, quite frankly. Clearly no one person can be an expert in all subjects. You *do* understand that, right? Because he has an energy policy as well doesn't mean it's crap because he doesn't have a degree in engineering! Maybe we should discount any decision he makes on healthcare since he's not a doctor? Since he doesn't have cred in the teaching profession, we should immediately discount any program he comes up with to help make education affordable, right?

      An intelligent president, like a good manager, will have the 50,000 foot view of the problem and will manage things. This includes putting "aces in their places", cutting through crap that's blocking progress and making correct decisions from the tons of info he'll receive.
      • TheRedSp4de, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1They both have terrible economic ideas...prove me wrong.
  • dmark77, on 06/11/2008, -3/+10Next the Republican party will say he has big ears, and that his shoes look funny.

    Your running out of FUD guys...
    • dafragsta, on 06/11/2008, -5/+6I've got some independent fud for you. Obama still won't address the accusations of being connected to the Bilderbergers. Oh yeah, and what's this I hear about a UN tax?
    • OffPiste, on 06/11/2008, -4/+5It would match the Democrats that made fun of the fact that McCain head and teeth are ugly because he was repeatedly beaten and had his teeth knocked out by his captors.

      Great humor!!!! Love those compassionate Democrats.

      The sleaziness of the Obama campaign has no ends.
      • dmark77, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1You are contradicting yourself sir.
      • blackinthmiddle, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Wait, so all democrats = The Obama campaign?
    • whiteboyfunk, on 06/11/2008, -3/+0If you think that's the only ammo that the GOP has, you're in for it. I hope you don't have a heart condition.
  • soopertoll, on 06/11/2008, -5/+4Do you think people can die of disinterest? i'm endangered. seriously. i'm from europe.
    • gofalcons, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1Buried for irrelavant comment. Also for being from Europe.
  • merlin5, on 06/11/2008, -12/+8Bottom up prosperity is th loopiest pipe dream I've ever heard. What school of economics could possibly view that as positive? Barak is not Robin Hood.
    • radiopayola, on 06/11/2008, -0/+5So, does trickle-down economics work for you?
    • Braddock, on 06/11/2008, -0/+7The value of focusing on prosperity from the bottom up is evidenced by the success of the New Deal and Great Society. Passage of the New Deal and the next thirty years led to the most economically prosperous years ever in America. Even Republican president Eisenhower maintained a high tax rate on the rich, to America's success. The Great Society successfully reduced the poverty rate from 20% to 12%, and increased the size of the middle class.

      Contrast that to the failures of recently enacted trickle-down economics policies (the economic troubles of 1987, and the current economic troubles), and the true pipe dream is expecting economic growth from massive tax cuts for the wealthy and large businesses.
  • dbit483, on 06/11/2008, -9/+10I'm voting for whoever promises to drill our oil in Alaska, Utah, North Dakota, and off the shores of California and Florida. For ***** sake China has teamed up with Cuba to drill 60 miles off the coast of Florida. Why should we let them siphon our gas tank and then sell it back to us. Uncompromising environmentalist groups are largely to blame for our continued dependence on middle east oil and the economic consequences have finally caught up to us. I give McCain a better shot at deciding to drill, so for now he wins my vote.

    BTW we have the technology to get the oil without killing bambi and the coka-cola bears...
    • publiclurker, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2Sounds like somebody actually bought the sales bull that an over sized car would make up for other shortcomings.
    • tucsonwc, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Hey and order up a hummer while you are at it. As we won't be running out of Oil right?
      How about we come up with alternatives to oil and make the switch?
  • dafragsta, on 06/11/2008, -8/+7So disillusioned right now. I really don't even want to hear anything else about the election. Obama is another Clinton. McCain is another Bush. A flattering article in Huffington Post? You don't say.

    Bilderberg. Impeachment. No coverage of either of these two things by any of the MSM. Just ***** rhetoric to steer the sheep into the barn.
    • GovernmentSp00k, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1It doesn't take much anymore. Just throw in a few dumbed down knee jerk soundbites here and there littered with false assurances of change and they're ready to go. Bunch of educated idiots that let the MSM decide their candidate.
  • FriedMoose, on 06/11/2008, -7/+8Tell me, how is increasing taxes for the wealthy going to help the economy? We already have the 2nd highest corporate tax rate... in the world. McCain will eliminate the AMT, which effects 25 million American families. Obama has flirted with doing away with the Social Security cap, which amounts to a 12.5% increase on everyone making above $96,000 a year. With our trading partners lowering taxes, how can we lure jobs here if our taxes are so much higher? John McCain is not perfect, as he supports the Lieberman-Warner bill, but Barack Obama clearly thinks we can tax our way out of difficult economic times. This is supported by the fact that he would levy windfall profit taxes upon Oil companies, which would only serve to raise gas prices. Also, people say McCain is a fiscal liberal, but how come McCain has never put forth an earmark? Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have put forth $3 billion worth. He also supports a one year freeze of discretionary spending, in order to evaluate government program effectiveness. This is something ALL diggers can get behind, John McCain supports the banning of all Internet taxes.


    I support Barack Obama on a lot of social issues, but i cannot lend my support to his economic policies.
    • Hamletlere, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2Some of what you say may have merit, but I want to point out that it isn't a "12.5% increase on everyone making above $96,000". It is a 12.5% increase "on income ABOVE $96,000". If I make $100,000, I am not experiencing a $12,500 tax increase (12.5% of $100,000), it would be a $500 increase (12.5% of $4,000). I would be paying the same 12.5% that I (me and my employer, really) always have on include below $96,000.
      • FriedMoose, on 06/11/2008, -0/+0I should have been more clear on that, but it does amount to the largest tax increase in American history. It comes in somewhere around $1 trillion. If you make $1.1 million, your taxes do go up 12.5%. Which would be devastating.
  • Sogui, on 06/11/2008, -12/+18Firefox Users:

    TOOLS-->OPTIONS--->Type www.HuffingtonPost.com and set it as you're homepage.

    This is getting ridiculous, Digg's front page is now just a Huffington news feed, which wouldn't be bad if it weren't the far left's equivalent of Fox News. The articles are extremely sensationalist, and this stupid article could basically be summarized as "REPUBLICAN LIKES TAX CUTS, DEMOCRAT DOESN'T, CLAIMS THEY ONLY HELP RICH", which would basically the be description of virtually every tax debate between a democrat and a republican.

    Preaching to the choir, Digg's front-page circle jerk, whatever you want to call it... Digg is driving out the people who came here for off-beat news, tech and gaming stories, and basically turned it into a Liberal-Libertarian Blog Newsfeed. Which you'd think I wouldn't mind as a left-leaning internet junkie, but the pure sensationalism and spin that goes into these opinion blogs that masquerade as news is just painful to read. I could nitpick at this piece, like how it claims foreclosures are highest since the Great Depression without citing a single fact or piece of evidence (which I searched for and could not find).

  • Atlatal, on 06/11/2008, -11/+6'Osama' Obama plans to campaign in ALL 57 States!

    He's not stupid like Bush!
    • Stemer, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Right, and just listen to 'Osama' Obama try to speak without reading a teleprompter. He sounds like a blathering idiot!
  • barthook, on 06/11/2008, -10/+9You mean Obama's speech writer can throw a punch. When he is off script, Obama is not nearly as inspirational or clever. Have you ever asked yourself why it takes 24 hours for Obama to respond?
    • tucsonwc, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1McLame had 3 weeks to prepare for his Louisiana speech.
      Even Fux news commented on how LAME he was.

      "Is that the kind of Change you want?"
      • barthook, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1I totally agree that McCain gives lousy speeches and Obama gives great ones. If that is what is important for you, by all means, vote Obama. Personally, I want a proven leader, not a person who speaks about leading.
  • ramiro1975, on 06/11/2008, -7/+4About time he showed his punch. Guess its easier to take on a 90 yr old man.
    • angryfirelord, on 06/11/2008, -0/+0Well then, the GOP shouldn't have put an old man up there in the first place!

      (no offense to the senior citizens who read digg)
  • bobtaylor1, on 06/11/2008, -9/+10I find it so hard to believe that there are people out there that read huffingtonpost.
    • PabloMac, on 06/11/2008, -2/+4Nobody actually reads it. The huffingtonpost.com janitor is tasked with submitting every article they write to Digg, and the rest of the staff immediately Digg each submission to the front page.
  • kosser, on 06/11/2008, -12/+5You know how he plans to fix the economy....by taxing the ***** out of everyone and making everyone have RFiD Chips and Carbon credits so we can all be slaves to the government. Socialism is just one black man away from happening to us.
    • filmbandit, on 06/11/2008, -4/+2so it's a black thing?
      • Muyoso, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Why if you mention race do you have to be a racist?
    • mzx639, on 06/11/2008, -1/+3Taxing will not fix the economy, never has, never will.
    • tucsonwc, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1Yeah so eliminating taxes for the Ultrarich has worked so well for us.
      And it is your current fearless leader who has instituted warrantless wiretaps, monitoring of all communication channels of American Citizens, datamining the ***** out of everything you do. And instead of investing in alternatives to oil, we've been paying subsidies to big Oil on top of the greatest profits in the history of business for Exxon Mobil. Meanwhile over in Iraq, we have the largest private mercenary army in existence with Blackwater et al not answerable to the military chain of command. We also have war profiteering by Cheney's chums on an unimaginable scale. We have torturing of civilians and general incompetance by the republican yes men carpetbaggers installed to be loyal party followers handing out large sums of no bid contracts and cash to the military industrial complex.

      So yes, I can see why having McBush would be so much better for the country. He can finish off the dollar, get gas up to $10 a gallon, and make sure that not one millionaire pays a red cent in taxes. As for the rest of us? We can all join the military so that Halliburton can overcharge the government providing substandard services to us while we invade and destroy yet another middle eastern country. Woo Hoo!

      The decline of the US is just one old angry coot away from happening to us.
  • executorzz, on 06/11/2008, -7/+7If the corporate tax rate is increased we will be in real trouble.

    The average corporate rate in the European Union is now 32.5 percent, down from 38.2 percent in 1996. Versus the combined U.S. federal and average state rate of 40 percent. The democratic party is one of the last politicial institutions in the world that still believes in increasing the corporate tax rate.

    International corporations will setup shop elsewhere if we do not decrease the corporate tax rate to at least stay in competition with the EU.
  • bleutuna, on 06/11/2008, -9/+10I LOVE THIS MAN!!!

    "I have a different vision for the future. Instead of spending twelve billion dollars a month to rebuild Iraq, I think it's time we invested in our roads and schools and bridges and started to rebuild America. Instead of handing out giveaways to corporations that don't need them and didn't ask for them, it's time we started giving a hand-up to families who are trying pay their medical bills and send their children to college."

    Seriously!! How can you NOT love this man? How can you NOT want us to focus on America? What is McCain even bringing to the table here? How can anyone support him?

    Do Republicans REALLY hate blacks, gays, and abortion *that* much to support McCain's lack of knowledge, insight, and planning?
    • FriedMoose, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2Support America while spending $800 billion on global poverty?(This isn't a completely bad idea)
    • ProUSADigger, on 06/11/2008, -2/+3Actually, bleutuna, I believe that you don't "LOVE THIS MAN". I believe that you and many other naive Americans
      are in love with the idea of somebody like Obama. The fact that you believe what he says proves this. It doesn't make you a bad person in my opinion; it makes you naive and or brainwashed. I know that sounds harsh, but that is actually what I believe. I'm honestly not trying to beat you up.

      Your last rhetorical question was pathetic on many levels, by the way.
      • runCMD, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2that was a beautiful post ProUSADigger. !
  • minorgods, on 06/11/2008, -5/+6Both these guys scare the hell out of me. Then again, that usually happens to me on an election year. What's different this year is my digg account and the fact I get to see actual examples of the mindless zombies on both sides of the coin. Congrats on your cut-and-paste ability tho. At least we can rely on social networking to educate the masses.

    btw, is the phrase "begin the digg down" the new way to beg not to be dug down? :)
  • MalenfantReid, on 06/11/2008, -2/+2Obama Telegraphs his Punch?
    • runCMD, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1You caught too : ) LOL. These guys are a little freakish. And it is so nice to finally see some reason slipping in around the Obama worship. I am on the fence at this point about who I will ultimately vote for - but the Obama World style robots on Digg worry me about the future under his leadership.
  • mzx639, on 06/11/2008, -14/+7Hahahaha, that's a punch?? Hussein Obama actually took a chance at damaging his manicured finger nails?? OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST! HE IS GOING TO TAX THE LIVING SH*T OUT OF EVERYONE! Upper class, middle class, lower class, EVERYONE! What I don't understand is why so many people in the U.S want to turn the United States into a socialist state!
    • tucsonwc, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1As opposed to the Corporate state it is now? Wise up buddy.
      It might be nice to dream that you are the CEO of any of the military industrial war profiteers making $47 million a year in salary and not paying any taxes.

      It might be nice to dream that you are the CEO of Exxon and getting a $400 million retirement package as well.

      You aren't. And your interests are not being represented in washington. Those of corporations are.
      • mzx639, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1It's called Capitalism buddy, it's what made the United States the most powerful nation in history in less then 250 years. Even though I'm not a CEO(and don't want to be one) I and everyone else that lives in the U.S. has benefited from the wealth. And yeah, I'll take that over socialism any day!
    • whodat51773, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2Actually he's going to allow terrorists to destroy this nation. If he doesn't do it first. Do not vote for the party that declares a war LOST while our troops are still at war NEVER!
  • bjs3171, on 06/11/2008, -1/+3has anyone seen Tracy Ullman's Ariana Huffington on State of the Union? it's pretty damn funny.
  • whiteboyfunk, on 06/11/2008, -8/+4Sure, you libs can try and belittle McCain and his economic standpoints, but be aware that records and experience speak volumes. What has Obama voted for regarding the economy in the Senate? To be honest, he probably hasn't. At all. With over 21 percent of his total votes neglected during his pathetic tenure, he's well beyond his peers in missed votes.

    Moving on, what about his foreign policies? He changes position on them so much, I don't believe any rubbish he spews at this point. How similar to Kerry!

    A lot of users on this website remind me of pufferfish. They blow some things entirely out of proportion, but believe me - in reality the phenomenon here is just an isolated incident.
    • tucsonwc, on 06/11/2008, -1/+1We could try but we don't have to. McLame himself says he is clueless on the economy.
      McBush will continue the same FAILED policies of the current administration.
      BTW should we compare the McCain of 2000 to the McBush of 2008? How is that for being "similar to Kerry"? Anything to get elected by the neotards like you.

      Which McCain records should we look at? The pre-Bush era one? Or the elect me at any cost one?
  • MattB123, on 06/11/2008, -2/+2Hawaiian Punch?
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