Obama Responds to McCain and Clinton attacks in Terra Haute watch!
youtube.com — Barack responds to criticism from Hillary Clinton and John McCain, at a town hall meeting in Indiana.
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- AtHomeBoy2000, on 04/12/2008, -11/+68curious to see if FoxNews picks up on this speech. Apparently he is now the ultimate liberal elitist in their eyes.
- zephyear, on 04/12/2008, -2/+10after a click flip by, they mentioned the "controversy" and all they said was obama stands by what he said, and that he said mccain and clinton are out of touch
dunno if theyll show the video later or monday- diggboi, on 04/12/2008, -2/+13Obama's done more in the past month to combat the sloganeering, "sound bite" snippet ***** that passes for TV journalism these days than every other politician has done in the last 30 years. Maybe this guy can help us bring meaningful dialogue back into the public arena, if we can rid ourselves of these pathetic "gotcha" sensationalists that foul our minds as they seek to outdo each other for that night's ratings bump.
With the world in the state it's in, we need a return to reason, and Obama is the only one with the chops and the stomach to do it. Every other consideration for your vote is pale ***** by comparison.
- diggboi, on 04/12/2008, -2/+13Obama's done more in the past month to combat the sloganeering, "sound bite" snippet ***** that passes for TV journalism these days than every other politician has done in the last 30 years. Maybe this guy can help us bring meaningful dialogue back into the public arena, if we can rid ourselves of these pathetic "gotcha" sensationalists that foul our minds as they seek to outdo each other for that night's ratings bump.
- RepubOperative, on 04/12/2008, -44/+6@wwoley wisely said:
Obama probably HOPES that Pennsylvanians are as ignorant as he thinks they are, otherwise they'll realize that he just called them ignorant, unemployed, bitter, frustrated, isolationist, gun-toting, xenophobic, bigoted, religious zealots.- michael532111, on 04/12/2008, -5/+26What a completely ridiculous comment. Talk about distortion!
- buhbyebot, on 04/12/2008, -6/+26Yeah, that's why they gave him a ***** standing ovation. Your elevator doesn't go all the way up does it?
- RepubOperative, on 04/12/2008, -30/+4Fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap
- pushmouse, on 04/12/2008, -3/+19This seems to be all Repubs have left to say. ***** sad.
- RepubOperative, on 04/12/2008, -30/+4Fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap
- sulthernao, on 04/12/2008, -4/+20No, moron. He said that the cling to such wedge issues instead of focusing on REAL problems, like the god damn economy.
- xilduq, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1you forgot to finish your sentence with ", stupid"
- NameTry2468, on 04/12/2008, -0/+6Does every republican and Clintonista think they're being clever and original the first time they make a bad hope joke?
- Totalchaos02, on 04/12/2008, -2/+12As was pointed on CNN earlier, what he said historically accurate. When people are in bad economic situation that tend to lash out at other groups. Washington is screwing people and he pointed out that people are bitter but, all Clinton can respond with is that we should all feel good and give ourselves a round of applause? Please, if he loses a single vote over telling the truth it will prove to me that our elections aren't phony, it's the people that are because they can't handle being told what they know is true.
- HenvY, on 04/12/2008, -3/+17i'm sorry, did you say fox NEWS?
- jabberwolf, on 04/12/2008, -31/+6He blames everyone else but has done nothing, and has no plan but to increase taxes to help the idiots that bought a house they couldnt afford !
He wants to talk with IRAN that is responsible for explosive devices that have been responsible for more USA deaths than any other means.
He NEVER voted against the WAR in 2003 because he ONLY became a Senator in 2004 !!
He wants to increase TAXES and created stronger UNIONS which is why companies have LEFT !!!
He wants to UNDERSTAND black racism and not reject it.
He is the most out of touch person on the ***** planet .
I take that back- The ones who follow are more so - Obama supporters!- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -0/+8you're right about one thing. he didn't vote against the war in 2003. what he did was give a speech in 2002 in which he showed that he knew more than any of the ridiculous people who voted to give Bush the authority to go to war. If McCain and Clinton would have listened to this speech we wouldn't be in this mess. Barack Obama has more wisdom in his pinky than either of those frauds. Read the speech for yourself. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_ ...
- martoq, on 04/12/2008, -4/+10Spin Baby spin. Enough time enough money one can spin anything. Maybe thats why people are so bitter...because we're tired of the *****.
- ShemDaimwood, on 04/12/2008, -2/+10Fox Noise.
- kaosethema, on 04/12/2008, -0/+5Faux Noise
- jbenson2, on 04/12/2008, -8/+2Hey Home Boy, sorry to burst your bubble, but the story broke on HuffPo. And comparing all the Presidential candidates, Obama is the "ultimate liberal elitist".
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -2/+9the liberal elitist who grew up in poor single parent household? nice. by the way, i'm not your Home Boy, Chum.
- zephyear, on 04/12/2008, -2/+10after a click flip by, they mentioned the "controversy" and all they said was obama stands by what he said, and that he said mccain and clinton are out of touch
- whatfun, on 04/12/2008, -8/+102Wow, and the Terra Haute audience responds with a standing ovation -- looks like he struck a chord there.
- 8ight, on 04/12/2008, -4/+6Hillary was here just a few weeks ago. She was at a sit down round table at a crummy restaurant. Supporters behind her... and the cameras in front of her. It was a very awkward setup. She got no standing ovation. Who knows why she didn't use an arena or something?!? I guess she thinks we all like to eat, I dunno.
- martoq, on 04/12/2008, -2/+12She couldn't fill the seats.
- Malevolant, on 04/12/2008, -10/+5Are you that stupid? Do you think he fills his speeches with people who disagree with him?
BTW, this is digg, aka obama-bot land, and you all epitomize the "obama can do no wrong" mentality to the extreme.
Keep ignoring what's right in front of you, remain his apologists, spin everything bad about him into sainthood, but most Americans aren't buying his *****.
Rely on polls all you want but they aren't correct all of the time. Come election time he will lose because of all of the baggage and hypocrisy, and b.s. he's selling you ***** sheep. FTR - all three candidates suck and anyone who is falling into the idolatry mindset should be embarrassed...that means most of you. You people think because you're on the net, and digg, that you know more, and that you're the most enlightened people out there. The truth is you represent and epitomize what's wrong with this country. Too many sheep fall for the same ***** over and over, and until that is corrected nothing will ever CHANGE!!!!- StarlessKnight, on 04/12/2008, -2/+5Most Americans aren't buying his ***** which is why he's won so many states...? Because Americans feel he's not viable. They're voting for him because they secretly enjoy watching Obama and Hillary fight it out. Yes, "most" Americans, if you count the Republicans that are voting for McCain (McCain + Hillary Supporters > just Obama supporters).
- Malevolant, on 04/13/2008, -0/+1Are you seriously as dumb as you seem? Are you so utterly ignorant that you think all Americans, from all political parties, are voting, and caucusing, as democrats? These are primaries, and not a general election. Yes, there are Republicans voting to mix things up, but this is a mostly Democrat party process, as it pertains to your messiah, obama.
Once the general election starts, and if obama is the democrat choice, watch how McCain will beat his over-hyped ass. You keep thinking that democrat primaries equate to all of America being in love with him, as I want to see you cry your eyes out, when you discover he's not made of the "right stuff". Seriously I hope he gets the nomination because I'll be coming here to gloat when he gets his ass handed to him in the general election.
FTR - I'm for none of the candidates, because they're all the same, just presented via different marketing campaigns, which people like you, fall for hook, line, and sinker. Grats on being a mindless ***** sheep!
- Malevolant, on 04/13/2008, -0/+1Are you seriously as dumb as you seem? Are you so utterly ignorant that you think all Americans, from all political parties, are voting, and caucusing, as democrats? These are primaries, and not a general election. Yes, there are Republicans voting to mix things up, but this is a mostly Democrat party process, as it pertains to your messiah, obama.
- StarlessKnight, on 04/12/2008, -2/+5Most Americans aren't buying his ***** which is why he's won so many states...? Because Americans feel he's not viable. They're voting for him because they secretly enjoy watching Obama and Hillary fight it out. Yes, "most" Americans, if you count the Republicans that are voting for McCain (McCain + Hillary Supporters > just Obama supporters).
- GreenMage, on 04/12/2008, -3/+6The audience, myself included, gave somewhere around a dozen standing ovations throughout his speech tonight. If you liked this part, find the part of his speech where he rails on outside interests and certain presidents failing to adhere to the constitution.
- theone3, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1They're mad as hell, and they're not gonna take it anymore.
- 8ight, on 04/12/2008, -4/+6Hillary was here just a few weeks ago. She was at a sit down round table at a crummy restaurant. Supporters behind her... and the cameras in front of her. It was a very awkward setup. She got no standing ovation. Who knows why she didn't use an arena or something?!? I guess she thinks we all like to eat, I dunno.
- buhbyebot, on 04/12/2008, -8/+81Looks like McCain and the Clintons are "out of touch", and Obama has the Magic Touch.
- Agathor, on 04/12/2008, -4/+4What the hell. Sure, people are bitter. That doesn't mean that you should say that people "cling to guns and religion" and various other things. And YES, people vote on issues like The Second Amendment because it's A RIGHT granted to us. And apparently Obama doesn't give two ***** about it. Stop being Obama-drones.
- mirunit, on 04/12/2008, -1/+5I am going to agree. Many gun-owners are responsible citizens, thugs and criminals will get guns regardless of the law (instead of just drugs from the border, we could add weapons also). Politicians who want to tell people that the constitution does not say what it explicitly says, I have no time for. In this time we need action and resolve, not incompetent idealism. Some Paul supporters must have switched sides, but that that end, I do not understand how as the men are almost polar opposites.
- cjshamrock, on 04/12/2008, -3/+2You know, I'm totally pro-gun control, mostly because I think it makes things way more dangerous than they already are, but you have a good point. All personal liberties need to be respected. Damn this 'War on Drugs', it's more like "War on its own people'.. Go kill Bin Laden instead, Bush, why haven't you done that yet?
And yeah, it's crazy and impossible but I actually dreamed of an Obama-RP ticket.
- cjshamrock, on 04/12/2008, -3/+2You know, I'm totally pro-gun control, mostly because I think it makes things way more dangerous than they already are, but you have a good point. All personal liberties need to be respected. Damn this 'War on Drugs', it's more like "War on its own people'.. Go kill Bin Laden instead, Bush, why haven't you done that yet?
- mirunit, on 04/12/2008, -1/+5I am going to agree. Many gun-owners are responsible citizens, thugs and criminals will get guns regardless of the law (instead of just drugs from the border, we could add weapons also). Politicians who want to tell people that the constitution does not say what it explicitly says, I have no time for. In this time we need action and resolve, not incompetent idealism. Some Paul supporters must have switched sides, but that that end, I do not understand how as the men are almost polar opposites.
- dustinhansen, on 04/13/2008, -0/+2Not all drones. Some of us just agree with his views based on the merit of the arguments.
- EdithPiaf, on 04/20/2008, -0/+0There's only Obama. No contest. Hillary is OFF.
- Agathor, on 04/12/2008, -4/+4What the hell. Sure, people are bitter. That doesn't mean that you should say that people "cling to guns and religion" and various other things. And YES, people vote on issues like The Second Amendment because it's A RIGHT granted to us. And apparently Obama doesn't give two ***** about it. Stop being Obama-drones.
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 04/12/2008, -6/+91Interesting point:
this "story" broke on Friday night. Immediately Obama responded with a clarification and even magnified his case. So, by the time this all gets chewed on over the weekend in time for Monday morning, there will be the original speech and the follow up speech. Basically nullifies the "problem". And I bet he uses this to get a bump much like the race issue gave him a bump after the effect wore off.- tcbishop12, on 04/12/2008, -6/+30Absolutely, right on the mark.
- tjmb9, on 04/12/2008, -5/+11Yeah, the more I see of him the more I realize that he isn't just a much needed change in perspective. He's also a really good tactician.
- jbenson2, on 04/12/2008, -15/+6Obama is toast. He did not respond with a clarification and magnified his case. If you listen to his response, you will realize that he did not clarify his comments at all. He just made a very weak attempt to side-step the growing issue which will continue to haunt him, just like Pastor Wright's sermons, his wife's statement about America, and the growing number of other highly questionable associations Obama has.
- kwazyhulk, on 04/12/2008, -3/+9What are you smoking? Obama pointed Clinton and McCain's ass-hat rhetoric straight back at them. His speech revealed them as out of touch political animals attempting to take advantage of a supposed weakness. Clinton and McCain are so oblivious they didn't even recognize the truth in the bitterness comment. They're so focused on the campaign they're ignoring the people. I hope this blows up in their faces.
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -1/+7he's a black Muslim terrorist! AHHHHH!!!!!! most Americans are sick of people using fear to manipulate them. that's why most Americans (voters anyway) will be voting for Barack Obama later this year.
- mirunit, on 04/12/2008, -3/+3Yeah... Because that is what the polls are saying. It is like this, Obama is not as close to center as he needs to be. He has essentially zero foreign policy experience. He is going to go on a spending rampage that over the next ten years will make the Iraq War look like a trip to McDonalds. Alot of you have no idea how much most federal programs cost, Social Security is a good example and the UK Healthcare system is a financial joke. With the US in recession, the citizens to not need more taxes or the government telling them how to do things - the government is good at breaking things in my opinion (atleast to do with civic welfare). What matters more than any association or PR transgression is the underlying principles of what a candidate will do once in office, 'ending the iraq war' will not solve anything in the long-term for the United States - neither will introducing restricting civil gun-rights or building an absolute leviathan know as a public healthcare system.
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1all the major candidates plan on spending. Obama just listens to what people need in his considerations of what to spend on. He also recognizes that we can't keep borrowing from China if we want to live in a stable world. That's why he proposes to raise taxes against those who make enough money to fly on private jets. This is what the republicunts consider communism. Alot of people love the fact that he hasn't been corrupted by the Washington status quo.
- mirunit, on 04/12/2008, -3/+3Yeah... Because that is what the polls are saying. It is like this, Obama is not as close to center as he needs to be. He has essentially zero foreign policy experience. He is going to go on a spending rampage that over the next ten years will make the Iraq War look like a trip to McDonalds. Alot of you have no idea how much most federal programs cost, Social Security is a good example and the UK Healthcare system is a financial joke. With the US in recession, the citizens to not need more taxes or the government telling them how to do things - the government is good at breaking things in my opinion (atleast to do with civic welfare). What matters more than any association or PR transgression is the underlying principles of what a candidate will do once in office, 'ending the iraq war' will not solve anything in the long-term for the United States - neither will introducing restricting civil gun-rights or building an absolute leviathan know as a public healthcare system.
- khurley2000, on 04/12/2008, -3/+7Absolutely right on this. Obama does what Kerry never did: he owns the story. Obama understands news cycles and how the press works. He immediately responds, but also flips the story back on the other candidates.
- pintomp3, on 04/12/2008, -2/+6i was worried about whether or not he could stand up to the smear campaign and dirty tactics of karl rove and the republicans, but he keeps proving that only can he respond, he can rise above it.
- mh732, on 04/12/2008, -2/+7All I have to say is i CAN'T WAIT for Obama to debate McCain. I'd love to see McCain bring this up in the debate, only to have it shoved back down his throat. The way Clinton and McCain commented on this quote is proof they are the same old politicians, trying to distract the public with trivial issues so they might vote against their self interests.
- cjshamrock, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2Me too. I reckon it's going to be humiliating for McCain alright. Hm-mmm.
- zephyear, on 04/12/2008, -10/+77after this speech i think this might actually help him rather than hurt
- Timetheos, on 04/12/2008, -3/+15Political Aikido
- jbenson2, on 04/12/2008, -14/+3It might help with some of the radical left during the primary, but it will be his doom in the general election (along with his many other missteps). He is only a good speaker when he is reading from a teleprompter. He always blows it when he talks off the cuff.
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -0/+7when's the last time McCain talked off the cuff? the only things he says off the cuff are how he doesn't know anything about the economy, or how he wants to bomb iran, or how he doesn't want to trade with the middle east because all they trade is burkas. nice. you picked a winner there bucko. not to mention he's glued to the teleprompter and can't even use it effectively.
- DrThunder, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2And.. "My friends"
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -0/+7when's the last time McCain talked off the cuff? the only things he says off the cuff are how he doesn't know anything about the economy, or how he wants to bomb iran, or how he doesn't want to trade with the middle east because all they trade is burkas. nice. you picked a winner there bucko. not to mention he's glued to the teleprompter and can't even use it effectively.
- southernvoice, on 04/12/2008, -7/+44he is telling the truth, american economy been shifting back and forth for the last 25 years by the american goverment
- jabberwolf, on 04/12/2008, -10/+4Um the 90s were pretty dammed good.
OOPS Sorry for mentioning economic FACT there, I forgot, this is Digg!- Timetheos, on 04/12/2008, -1/+10Depends on when and where. West coast and NE, yes, others no. Software yes, manufacturing no....
- xilduq, on 04/12/2008, -0/+6Reagan Inc began the raping of America, then Bush Inc took some turns, and Clinton Inc reamed it out and Half-Wit LLC pummeled, robbed and left it for dead. The 90s were fueled by the internet bubble which burst if you recall.
- pintomp3, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1you mean under clinton?
- jabberwolf, on 04/12/2008, -10/+4Um the 90s were pretty dammed good.
- diggeradoo, on 04/12/2008, -12/+94This is an example of why I switched parties in PA so that I can vote for this guy. He gets it.
McCain doesn't, plus there's his age. Hillary doesn't (NAFTA, CAFTA), plus there's her pathologic lying, her husband, and now apparently according to Bill her age is an issue too.- sulthernao, on 04/12/2008, -4/+18Yeah, what the hell is Bill thinking? Once you get to 60 your memory starts failing? Well, all the more of a reason to vote for Obama, right?
- kansai22, on 04/12/2008, -3/+11Bill Clinton really doesn't want Hillary to win thats what he is thinking. He knows that Obama is the better candidate but he has to support Hillary officially. So you know what he does he slowly throws things out to sabotage her campaign to make sure that the better candidate gets the nomination.
- tjmb9, on 04/12/2008, -2/+4And she can't win without him.
- Payman25, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2"Bill Clinton really doesn't want Hillary to win"
What man would want his wife running for president when she can be staying home taking care of him? The only motivation Bill might have is to get his hands on some more of those White House interns.......
- kansai22, on 04/12/2008, -3/+11Bill Clinton really doesn't want Hillary to win thats what he is thinking. He knows that Obama is the better candidate but he has to support Hillary officially. So you know what he does he slowly throws things out to sabotage her campaign to make sure that the better candidate gets the nomination.
- BeefBaron, on 04/12/2008, -3/+10If McCain were a blue collar he would have been put in a home by his children already.
- mirunit, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1Please clarify what you believe will happen if NAFTA/CAFTA were canceled? Free trade forms the backbone of a capitalist system, some goods are no feasible to be produced in the United States because of wage minimums. Should business pay their workers more in central America? Yeah. You also have to remember that 5$ will buy more in a small Central American town than at Wal-Mart or wherever. Free trade builds the economies of partner nations also, but I guess its better to be unemployed that underpaid - right? Tell that to a man trying to feed his family.
- sulthernao, on 04/12/2008, -4/+18Yeah, what the hell is Bill thinking? Once you get to 60 your memory starts failing? Well, all the more of a reason to vote for Obama, right?
- cg4et, on 04/12/2008, -11/+63This is a fantastic response. Of course working class people are bitter. I know I am sure as hell bitter after 7 years of George W. Bush. Hillary and McCain are just engaging in the same politics of distortion that has gotten our country into the mess that it is in today.
- jabberwolf, on 04/12/2008, -24/+4Retard, he blames everyone else but has done nothing, and has no plan but to increase taxes to help the idiots that bought a house they couldnt afford !
He wants to talk with IRAN that is responsible for explosive devices that have been responsible for more USA deaths than any other means.
The only thing OBAMA is in touch with , is his own racist fantasy !- Railz, on 04/12/2008, -1/+17You mean he means to tax before spending?
You mean he wants to try and work with other nations instead of sending the sons of the flag to die global hegemony?
Oh, the liberal horror. - martoq, on 04/12/2008, -1/+9Let me help you on your way to digg-downin.
- jaznova, on 04/12/2008, -1/+15You're going to wear out your Ctrl + V buttons dude
- MoofTheStoof, on 04/12/2008, -0/+5You started to paste the whole thing from your previous post, but didn't quite get it all. I think you're right - talking points 3-6 probably could do more good further down the page...
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3Obama's racist? you mean against his own Mother and granparents that raised him? ok. we all saw what happened in Iraq with Sadr recently. Iran holds all the cards. They decide if there's war or peace. Peace with Iran is the only way out. and also he wants to raise taxes against rich mother ***** who have been living it up for the past 8 years. It's a lot better than just borrowing a few more trillion from Fascist China wouldn't you say?
- Payman25, on 04/12/2008, -2/+0China is actually Communist
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2hmm you mean except for the whole shore which is radically capitalist?
- Payman25, on 04/12/2008, -2/+0China is actually Communist
- Railz, on 04/12/2008, -1/+17You mean he means to tax before spending?
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -12/+2go educate yourself...improve your skill set...and make more money. if your town/state doesn't have jobs, move. the government does not owe you anything. im doing great because i did exactly what i am recommending to you.
- sweetholymosiah, on 04/12/2008, -0/+7Yes and the federal government allowing, even promoting the outsourcing of jobs to foreign lands with subsistence wages has absolutely nothing to do with it.
- Timetheos, on 04/12/2008, -1/+10Ahhh compassionate conservativism at it's finest.... "if your town/state doesn't have jobs, move" oops! Sorry! You can't because housing is in the crapper!
- xilduq, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3The government has been selling (pimping?) America out for 30 years. That's why people are justifiably bitter.
- tillerman00, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3McCain and Hillary think they can kiss the collective ass of the American people and gain their vote. While that may be true for many ignorant Americans, it sure as ***** ain't true for me.
- jabberwolf, on 04/12/2008, -24/+4Retard, he blames everyone else but has done nothing, and has no plan but to increase taxes to help the idiots that bought a house they couldnt afford !
- actorboy, on 04/12/2008, -5/+48Hey Hill: If people are satisfied with the state of the Union, shouldn't they be voting McCain?
- HenvY, on 04/12/2008, -6/+52Wow, having followed the story as it was breaking, I really though this was going to hurt Obama. But then he comes out with this - the man is amazing, a complete smackdown for anyone trying to take advantage of statements that were obviously misinterpreted.
- Railz, on 04/12/2008, -3/+20I can't wait to see McCain vs. Obama in the national debate. Oh man...
- mirunit, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2Obama will have a problem with lack of experience. I really assure you of this. If you think about it, Obama has never really been in an executive position, has zero foreign policy experience. Mccain will also hit him on all the money he wants to spend, how he will retort I am not sure.
- cjshamrock, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2C'mon, McCain doesn't have any experience in an executive position either, unless you count his military years. Old ideas for a new America? Won't work. His idol is Reagan for chrissakes
- audiored, on 04/12/2008, -9/+2One thing I've noticed about Obama supporters, there seems to be a large number of them prone to panic attacks.
- jbenson2, on 04/12/2008, -10/+2a complete smackdown? No way. It was a lame attempt to side-step the controversy. He is floundering.
- Lc5827, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1I think you are correct. Obama is amazing in his response to obvious misinterpretations that could be used against him!
- Railz, on 04/12/2008, -3/+20I can't wait to see McCain vs. Obama in the national debate. Oh man...
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/12/2008, -61/+5It is over Obama. Drop out for the good of America.
- zephyear, on 04/12/2008, -4/+25It is over Hillary and John. Drop out for the good of America.
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/12/2008, -31/+3Obama is done...he committed Rhetorical Death when he attacked main street America....wait and see....
- EridanMan, on 04/12/2008, -2/+20Attack? What Attack? Did you just watch the same speech I did?
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/12/2008, -22/+2Yes. I did - LOL - and so did America
- peticsu, on 04/12/2008, -1/+12onlinemuck...you dont represent America
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/12/2008, -15/+1I never said I did.
- celkin, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
- EridanMan, on 04/12/2008, -2/+20Attack? What Attack? Did you just watch the same speech I did?
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -1/+12My god, do you even know what rhetorical means?
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/12/2008, -15/+1Yes. Do you?
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -1/+16That was a rhetorical question, I already know you're stupid.
Now you can tell me what irony is. - awills, on 04/12/2008, -0/+4lol, onlinemuck got ***** served!
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -1/+16That was a rhetorical question, I already know you're stupid.
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/12/2008, -14/+1Ah, I should have expected an ad hominem attack from you. What you are doing is confusing Rhetoric with "mere" rhetoric. Its a common mistake.
- Joshuarr, on 04/12/2008, -1/+5Your mom made lots of those. (What kind of an attack is that?)
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3I'm sorry, you seem to be implying that you're worth anything more than that. Consider yourself blessed to receive my excellent ad homs. Never argue with an idiot, my mother always said, they'll lower you down to their level and beat you with experience. She didn't say anything about humiliating one...
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/12/2008, -3/+1Thank you for admitting you engage in ad hominem attacks. I am sorry you feel that you have to engage in this type of debate.
- TotalHalibut, on 04/13/2008, -1/+2I'm sorry but you seem to be implying that you were debating. Apparently this is something else you should look for the meaning of, because you were never doing it, and my sole interest here is to point that out by mocking you in front of your peers.
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/13/2008, -2/+1Of course, ad hominem attacks, not debate. Its not what you do. I framed a situation in which you could engage in skillfull argumentation, civil debate. Let's keep the focus on Obama and his rhetoric.
An indepth analysis of Obama's discourse reveals that he usings victimage as a strategy and not unity..."In the political realm, this tendency aims toward perfect order and works to anathematize the opposition, exerting the principle of victimage. Burke warns us against this principle, which functions as much in the rhetoric of politics as in the rhetoric of religion." http://www.jstor.org/pss/462331
America please be aware of this strategy that Burke has warned about.- TotalHalibut, on 04/13/2008, -1/+2You sir, are exceptionally delusional. You did no such thing. You made a dumb, blanket remark with no basis in fact, and then expected people to somehow turn it into a debate? Nope, there's a simpler explanation.
You're trolling.
- TotalHalibut, on 04/13/2008, -1/+2You sir, are exceptionally delusional. You did no such thing. You made a dumb, blanket remark with no basis in fact, and then expected people to somehow turn it into a debate? Nope, there's a simpler explanation.
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/13/2008, -2/+1More ad hominem attacks. Not a surprise. People should start connecting Obama's past political behavior to what his is doing now...see this story from early 2007...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-07040 ...
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/12/2008, -15/+1Yes. Do you?
- OnlineMuckraker, on 04/12/2008, -31/+3Obama is done...he committed Rhetorical Death when he attacked main street America....wait and see....
- MrSlumberjack, on 04/12/2008, -2/+8You obviously didn't even watch the video. Tunnel vision have you.
- javip, on 04/12/2008, -1/+3gee.. who would have guessed OnlineMuckraker would be a 44 yr old man.. lol
- acroyear2, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2That was the weirdest statement I've read. Obama raised 50million in march... so that's a sign that it's over?
- misdirekted, on 04/13/2008, -0/+2faaaaaaaaail.
- zephyear, on 04/12/2008, -4/+25It is over Hillary and John. Drop out for the good of America.
- FiestyPumpkin, on 04/12/2008, -6/+60Ditto! I'm bitter, too. I haven't lost my job or anything, but I am sick and tired of seeing all of us screwed over! He may have just won PA with that little speech.
On a different note, Hillary sure as hell is bitter......... that she is losing.- 5suki, on 04/12/2008, -0/+6Obama won with the speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004 - all the rest is just icing on the cake! Simply brilliant.
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 04/12/2008, -2/+28The response now has as many diggs the original "bitter" digg post.
- okayokayokay, on 04/12/2008, -2/+29http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/294168009_b25de ...
- 5suki, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2Oh snap! is right. Obama don't play.
- CeCe33, on 04/12/2008, -3/+60Thank you!! I have a job and I am bitter! I am bitter because too many of my students have parents who are either unemployed (we had two major distribution centers close) or work 2 jobs with crazy hours. Too many of my students have lost their homes, their parents have lost their cars, and I have two students with asthma who do not qualify for Medicaid but their parents cannot afford health insurance.
Yep, I'm ticked off and bitter. I am no elitist. I have a BA and I'm working on a Masters which I will need to pay off the student loans that are driving me crazy. Yet the only way to make a living as a teacher is to get the additional degree. My husband had done the same and is working on a doctorate. We each work everyday for students and we love what we do. But I may have $10 in the bank. Yes, I am bitter too. Most of us are!- chrisaug18, on 04/12/2008, -5/+1hang tought is all i can say im not quite there yet but i hope to be...
- coffee200am, on 04/12/2008, -16/+3Your being racist as an American. Other people in other countries need those jobs. You've got to think about other people in other countries FIRST.
- KKKRobertByrd, on 04/12/2008, -24/+1$10 in the bank? Well, I guess I'd be bitter if I were a dumbass who couldn't manage my money, too.
Buy a persona finance book, retard. Your failings are not the fault of others.- mh732, on 04/12/2008, -1/+13So be sure never to blame black people for your misfortunes KKKRobertByrd, you ***** ass.
- JustSomeDood, on 04/12/2008, -0/+6Spot on CeCe33. America is bitter and we're pissed off. We have CEOs in this country that run a company and the stock into the ground and get rewarded for it. While on the other hand the rest of this country is walking on egg shells hoping they don't get sick or lose their job.
- TangTKE402, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3I'm in the same position teaching special needs students in upstate NY. Same bitterness comes from my heart, and the worst thing to do with that bitterness is channel it into apathy. Keep up the good work!
- hostingpursual, on 04/12/2008, -3/+7don't worry, be happy.
- chrisaug18, on 04/12/2008, -2/+3everything will be alright...if you don't live in america
- buhbyebot, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3I don't, and I am.
- cjshamrock, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2America is not that bad... yet.
- chrisaug18, on 04/12/2008, -2/+3everything will be alright...if you don't live in america
- fcsnc, on 04/12/2008, -3/+31Believe it or not, Hillary has now sent out an email DENOUNCING AND REJECTING this response by Sen. Obama. I think this may be the middle of the end of her campaign, to coin a phrase.
- Payman25, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1This woman is perpetually PMSed.............
- Veni_Vidi_Vici, on 04/12/2008, -6/+36This man truly inspires me.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -13/+1to do what?
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -1/+13Vote for him I'd imagine.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -11/+0i thought he might be inspired to cure cancer or fly around the world.
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -1/+9I'm inspired to cure cancer on a daily basis, then I realize that I can't actually do that. Inspiration takes many forms, some more realistic than others.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -11/+0i thought he might be inspired to cure cancer or fly around the world.
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -1/+13Vote for him I'd imagine.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -13/+1to do what?
- 8ight, on 04/12/2008, -9/+3Damn, I wish I could have went. So close... but no tickets for me. And it's my wife's birthday. May not have went over too greatly.
- adml_shake, on 04/12/2008, -3/+11Living in Indiana I think I can speak for all of us when I say the people are ready for change on every level of our government. St. Joe county even more so.
- AgentAce, on 04/12/2008, -3/+9...Terre Haute...
- Vuredel, on 04/12/2008, -7/+2... sucks.
- spokenorigami, on 04/12/2008, -4/+17Yea, i've got to agree. This has the potential to help him more than hurt him.
- DiggedyDoo, on 04/12/2008, -4/+9He's in touch! He's in touch!
- mescad, on 04/12/2008, -1/+8" I know exactly what's going on. I know what's going on in Pennsylvania. I know what's going on in Indiana. I know what's going on in Illinois..."
For a second there I had flashbacks to the Howard Dean "and Oregon, and Washington, and Michigan...YEAAAAGH!" and got scared.- sweetholymosiah, on 04/12/2008, -1/+11I can't believe Americans let the mainstream news do that to someone. Had they let it drop no one would have given a *****
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -0/+9i can't ***** believe it either, GWB says "yeehaw" all the time, Howard Dean was excited about seeing America change for the better, they should have ***** respected that.
- sweetholymosiah, on 04/12/2008, -1/+11I can't believe Americans let the mainstream news do that to someone. Had they let it drop no one would have given a *****
- mescad, on 04/12/2008, -1/+8" I know exactly what's going on. I know what's going on in Pennsylvania. I know what's going on in Indiana. I know what's going on in Illinois..."
- wishninja, on 04/12/2008, -6/+20lol I just do not understand why McCain and Clinton want to waist their time running against this guy. There is just no way they are going to win. Imagine a debate between McCain and Obama? McCain is dead meat.
- markh1225, on 04/12/2008, -11/+3Only because many Americans, like you, are more impressed with well-spoken rhetoric than character and positions on the issues.
- elipabst, on 04/12/2008, -2/+7Frankly I think the draw is largely about character, which frankly I don't think is a bad thing. In reality Obama and Clinton largely have similar stances on most issues. Plus you're a fool if you buy into any of these campaign promises. All you have to do is look at the 2000 election to see a good example of why a candidates spoken position is largely rubbish, remember "I'm a uniter, not a divider" or his pledge not to be involved in nation building. Clinton reeks of that same kind of "do anything to get elected" campaign philosophy.
- sweetholymosiah, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1he's talking about McCain
- sweetholymosiah, on 04/12/2008, -2/+2You think McCain has strong, well thought out positions on issues? That would hold up in an honest debate? I admit Barack and McCain might agree on the national health policy (shameful) but I'm pretty sure Obama would score a few points on foreign relations.
- markh1225, on 04/13/2008, -0/+0Actually, McCain and Obama differ vastly on national health care policy. Obama has no foreign relations experience; he can't even decide, in response to Hillary's comments, whether the U.S. should boycott the Beijing Olympics (idiocy on her part), or not.
- ricree, on 04/12/2008, -0/+8I've seen nothing that would suggest that Clinton or McCain are better in terms of character or positions. As far as character goes, we've seen Clinton constantly trying to slip crap past voters. She lies about issues, she lies about her positions, and she lies about events. What sort of character is that? And McCain is little better. He's backed down on many of the things that he once stood for, presumably in order to secure the nomination this time around. In 200, he rightly called out the likes of Falwell and Pat Robertson, but he has suddenly decided to become all chummy with them this time around. When the issue of torture came before congress, McCain, who of all people should be willing to take a stand against torture, praised the president for vetoing a bill that would have unambiguously made waterboarding illegal. Is selling one's principles for the sake of political power really a sign of character to you?
- Anzat, on 04/12/2008, -1/+4Or maybe it's because some Americans, like me, are more impressed with a towering intellect full of fresh ideas than with a flag-waving, policy-deficient old geezer running as Bush III.
- mirunit, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2I am going to guess. Age < 30, College Major in (Humanities and Social Sciences).
- markh1225, on 04/13/2008, -0/+0What ideas? Obama's a rhetorician. Nothing more. If you understood anything about economics, you would know that the coming of socialized medicine, the much, much higher taxes that will ensue, and restrictions on free trade will move us into third world nation status. Which is where you would expect to find a Barack Obama as President. He and Hugo Chavez will be such goood friends...!
- elipabst, on 04/12/2008, -2/+7Frankly I think the draw is largely about character, which frankly I don't think is a bad thing. In reality Obama and Clinton largely have similar stances on most issues. Plus you're a fool if you buy into any of these campaign promises. All you have to do is look at the 2000 election to see a good example of why a candidates spoken position is largely rubbish, remember "I'm a uniter, not a divider" or his pledge not to be involved in nation building. Clinton reeks of that same kind of "do anything to get elected" campaign philosophy.
- DEIx15x8, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2Because we are in America where there is a Democracy. Why would we want one person arbitrarily chosen to run the government. Actually guess what, I just chose to be the next president.
- wishninja, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1I know when to hold and when to fold. Faced with tossing in millions on this loosing battle I would not even bother.
- markh1225, on 04/12/2008, -11/+3Only because many Americans, like you, are more impressed with well-spoken rhetoric than character and positions on the issues.
- dizilbdog, on 04/12/2008, -4/+9You know I like his speeches, but I think we are putting this being President on a Pedestal so much that this next President will change everything and the United States will be better. I think people need to start trusting each other before they start to trust washington again.
- JustSomeDood, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1I think the opposite has already happened to this country. People put Bush on a pedestal and he sure changed this country but not for the good.
- Pherdnut, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2I think he's got a good point. One of the biggest problems with politics is what a joke the showing for Rep. and Senate votes are in most states.
- brainscab, on 04/12/2008, -4/+21People are bitter, and its because of 20 years of Bush Clinton. And people do need to stop voting on silly wedge issues, as opposed to big picture issues.
- chetchez, on 04/12/2008, -4/+43If you're not angry, you're not paying attention!
- DEIx15x8, on 04/12/2008, -12/+1I know his speeches annoy me too.
- FiestyPumpkin, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1I have a bumper sticker that essentially says the same thing.
- jabberwolf, on 04/12/2008, -43/+5WOW
Obama is so in touch and blames soooo many people. But hes a Jr Senator of 2 terms and has done absolutely NOTHNG !!
He didnt even vote against the WAR = how is this possible?!
HE WASNT A ***** SENATOR UNTIL 2004 !!
OBAMA WANTS A TAX HIKE IN THE WORST TIME OF THE MORTGAGE CRISIS - OBMAMA IS OUT OF TOUCH AND WILL ***** OVER THE COUNTRY!
OBAMA WANT TO UNDERSTAND BLACK RACISM - OBAMA IS OUT OF TOUCH !- 8ight, on 04/12/2008, -3/+13It's cruising time for jabberwolf.
- buhbyebot, on 04/12/2008, -6/+15You're foaming at the proverbial mouth. He's going to be the next POTUS.
- He did vote against the war in Iraq, but did approve funding once they were there. It's called supporting our troops. Get your facts straight.
- He is a Senator and I don't give a ***** for how long, or at all, he's the right man for the job.
- We need to raise taxes / ***** the mortgage crisis, they brought it on themselves with help of Hillary Clinton mind you, and others in bed with the financial industry
- He's exactly in touch, and you don't get it.
- You no understand how write a good sentence.
jabberoff- dh122, on 04/12/2008, -2/+8Listen, I'm a big Obama supporter, but it is true that he did not vote against the authorization for the war, as that occurred in 2002, two years before his election. He did, however, make an impassioned speech against the authorization while in the Illinois State Senate, so he was publicly anti-war.
- Willravel, on 04/12/2008, -4/+20Clinton served two terms as... um... wife? The she won in an overwhelmingly democratic state against a weak opponent? Then she walked the fence on virtually everything that was on her plate? Obama wasn't married into power, he actually amassed it himself by graduating magna cum laude from Harvard Law, worked for civil rights at Miner, Barnhill and Galland, and actually taught constitutional law at University of Chicago.
Are ya stoned?- Stevanoski, on 04/12/2008, -13/+2Plus he comes from white trash mom who's daddy was always too good to work.
- Willravel, on 04/12/2008, -2/+7"White trash". Way to heal the racial divide.
- buddhistMonkey, on 04/12/2008, -1/+4You sound like you just might be an expert on white trash, someone who I'm sure has had decades' worth of experience immersed in the culture. You wouldn't, by chance, happen to have a primer-colored Chevy Impala up on blocks in your front yard next to a tree with a pair of deer antlers nailed to it, would you?
- Stevanoski, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1lol, good reply, sorry, university educated, participate and support the arts, love life and hate no one, even the jihadist who want to kill Americans just because they are Americans.
Unlike the Left, I do realize the world is a dangerous place and I believe there are evil people. As such I want to ensure my children are proctected from those who wish them harm. Even to the extent of waging a war to protect them.
- Stevanoski, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1lol, good reply, sorry, university educated, participate and support the arts, love life and hate no one, even the jihadist who want to kill Americans just because they are Americans.
- buhbyebot, on 04/12/2008, -1/+4His mom's daddy was too good to work?
That's what your sentence states.
You're a dumb *****. - 47f0, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1I'm genuinely impressed Stevanoski - it's inspiring how you've managed to triumph over your obviously severe frontal lobe injury to be able to type.
BTW - pissoff.
- Stevanoski, on 04/12/2008, -13/+2Plus he comes from white trash mom who's daddy was always too good to work.
- MoofTheStoof, on 04/12/2008, -2/+4...And here they are! (some of the rest of the talking points from above) Oddly enough, I remain unconvinced by your powerful rhetoric, Jabber.
- headzoo, on 04/12/2008, -3/+5Try doing some background research on Obama. He's been working to help people long before he had political aspirations. His experience in public service started decades before he became a senator.
Funny enough, his real start in helping people was being a community organizer, and working his butt off to bring jobs back to Chicago. He's defiantly the man the people in PA should want as a president. - amirman, on 04/12/2008, -1/+4try reading his speech he made in 2002 and tell me this guy didn't have more foresight and wisdom than McCain and Clinton who both voted to give Bush authorization to go to war: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_ ...
i'm still having a hard time how you wackos can logically think Obama is racist against white people when he was raised by his white mother and white grandparents. what is wrong with you. the only thing that makes sense is that you are letting your racism get in the way of logic. - misdirekted, on 04/13/2008, -1/+1fail. take a hike.
- Erkdance, on 04/12/2008, -1/+18It is spelled "Terre Haute"
- Evilstanley, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2lol and every digg user in Indiana is pissed. All 5 of us.
- Nosocialism, on 04/12/2008, -39/+4Jabberwolf, take your hands off the CAPLOCKS and calm down.
Obama will never win the presidency. Read my report at http://www.nosocialism.com/2008/04/why-obama-cant- ...
and you'll understand why.- Willravel, on 04/12/2008, -3/+23Check out my blog at www.i_dont_understand_socialism.org/capitalism_is_magic/i_teach_economics_to_fifth_graders.html and you'll totally get why I'm plugging my website!!
- Railz, on 04/12/2008, -2/+16A website named "no socialism"
yup
not bias'd. - Pherdnut, on 04/12/2008, -0/+7Nobody was overly excited about Kerry or Gore, or even the Clintons for that matter. You can accuse people of confusing wishful thinking with reason but that blade swings both ways.
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -2/+14No-one cares about your ***** blog.
- buhbyebot, on 04/12/2008, -1/+5***** your blog.
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -1/+6how dare the government give tax breaks to poor struggling people. those tax breaks belong to corporations. is it trickling down yet? i think i felt a drop... no that was the republicans sweating over Obama.
- Joshuarr, on 04/12/2008, -0/+4That is seriously a ***** ugly website design.
- JavanSClark, on 04/12/2008, -0/+4Wow. They even build the site for you. All you have to do is point and click.. so easy a monkey can do it... unless that monkey is you of course.
- Carv, on 04/12/2008, -3/+32A great response. I'm bitter too...bitter at how every time a politician like Obama tries to have a serious conversation about serious issues, the media responds to that by taking 5-second out of context sound bites and looping them over and over during the news cycle to get more viewers.
- wetdog, on 04/12/2008, -5/+4I wanted to go to the town hall, but tickets were long gone. I was lucky enough to see him in Bloomington briefly, when he stopped at the Little 500 women's race. The mob mentality was nuts. People were pushing on gates and following him around like puppies. But, then, so was I, camera in hand.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -9/+2most people are lemmings
- u2wedge, on 04/12/2008, -3/+2and a few are idots
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -9/+2most people are lemmings
- rawnnie, on 04/12/2008, -14/+2Presidents can't do crap for you, Americans. You're in deeper *****. :)
- Pherdnut, on 04/12/2008, -0/+4They can if we follow up with our reps.
- EvilAirman, on 04/12/2008, -2/+4why is he being dugg down. the president isn't supposed to fix the economy
- Timetheos, on 04/12/2008, -2/+1neoliberalism is dead.
- buddhistMonkey, on 04/12/2008, -0/+4They can do a hell of a lot. Bush was able to ruin America's economy with his half-a-trillion-dollar war in Iraq, his irresponsible tax breaks aimed at the upper echelon, his vast expansion of government, his deregulation of the financial markets, and on and on. If Bush can break it, it stands to reason that Barack Obama -- in every regard Bush's opposite -- can fix it.
- martoq, on 04/12/2008, -3/+8Not bitter...obviously Clinton and McCain have never visited digg.
- winnestow, on 04/12/2008, -37/+3You talk good but facts will keep you from winning: 1: Most liberal senator 2: 20yr mentor is a madman pastor of an American hating church 3: Voted for sex education for kindergarten children, yet on important issues-he usually votes-present 4: Married to a woman that is not proud of being an American (until her husband ran for office) 5: Wishes to spend .7% of US GDP supporting Marxist African nations
- martoq, on 04/12/2008, -2/+5Really...Watching the news every day and seeing my fellow citizens really makes me "proud" to. Get a ***** grip and drop the contextual *****.
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -2/+5And I'm sure you have some actual evidence to back this up right? You don't honestly think you're going to be taken seriously without it right?
And what Marxist African nations would those be? - Pherdnut, on 04/12/2008, -2/+71. More liberal than Kucinich?
2. You either don't believe this or you're somebody who would never vote for a democrat anyway.
3. Wow, what vote was this? You're going to have to link to that one.
4. Hmm... perhaps she was feeling... bitter?
5. Which Marxist African nations?- fantasticFlan, on 04/12/2008, -2/+1Kucinich is a Rep, they're a more diverse bunch.
- thefirstenemy, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2That "most liberal" title is complete *****. There's an actual socialist in the senate. Are you telling me Obama is more liberal than Bernie Sanders? There's no merit to the "most liberal senator" title.
- JavanSClark, on 04/12/2008, -1/+4Here let me translate his original post..
1. He's BLACK
2. He's BLACK
3. He's BLACK
4. He's BLACK
5. SOILENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!
- JavanSClark, on 04/12/2008, -1/+4Here let me translate his original post..
- ghostoftomjoad, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1These are all good things in my book
- serif69, on 04/12/2008, -16/+9Great speech. He's absolutely right about every point he made.
Unfortunately I can't vote for him, no matter how right he is with his points in this regard, because he talks about being frustrated with Washington, and proposes we put more programs in place in Washington and give the government a bigger budget. I'm sorry, but giving more power and sprawl to an institution that has produced such bitterness and frustration is only going to do very bad things.- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -8/+3right on point....more government will not make things better only worse
- Willravel, on 04/12/2008, -3/+1Consider the alternatives.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1 wont consider obama, clinton, or mccain...all are sell-outs. imho anyone that votes for any of these three is a sell-out as well.
- phillykid162, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3I disagree with you serif but I dugg you up because your I value your opinion
- serif69, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1Thank you for being fair. It's quite rare and refreshing, actually. See below. And the diggs next to my original comment.
- u2wedge, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1so you think GWB did a pretty good job, eh? What's it feel like to be in a 28% minority?
- serif69, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1No, I think he did a pretty ***** job, actually. Just because I oppose Obama doesn't mean I support Bush. Christ.
- DetpackJump, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1So you prefer a smaller government which will continue to dump billions into a meaningless war?
- serif69, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1No, I prefer a smaller government that will stop dumping billions into every stupid little thing it does and increasing our deficit by trillions as a result.
- mirunit, on 04/12/2008, -1/+1The problem is, if Digg says his speech was great - what is politically central America going to say? Its independents the candidates are trying to win...
- coffee200am, on 04/12/2008, -20/+8Obama is like a modern day God. When your around him you feel....well...you feel healed. There is love everywhere and you know that Obama is doing this to you. When Obama is elected everything will be good. No more tears, no more racism, no more poverty or sickness. Everyone will be happy. I can't wait to apologize to all the non whites and non Americans I meet for my...my bitterness.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -8/+0stop drinking the kool-aid dude. Modern day God? healed? No more poverty? hahaha...you have an external locus of control my friend and that will be a problem for you for the rest of your life.
- coffee200am, on 04/12/2008, -4/+3He can heal the sick and bitter...with just words.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -5/+1are you feeling healthier and sweeter? just wait until he f*s you in the *ss after hes elected....youre gonna feel on top of the world.
- coffee200am, on 04/12/2008, -3/+2Yes....I will not be bitter.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -5/+1are you feeling healthier and sweeter? just wait until he f*s you in the *ss after hes elected....youre gonna feel on top of the world.
- lndmn01, on 04/12/2008, -1/+3ever heard of "sarcasm"?
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2republicans are generally idiots. they have no personality or a sense of humor thus when a fellow republican tries to make a sarcastic joke, it backfires and makes the rest of them look like total dolts.
- coffee200am, on 04/12/2008, -4/+3He can heal the sick and bitter...with just words.
- Archer007, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3As opposed to... ancient gods? Every single sentence in your post is subjective and vague.
- sweetholymosiah, on 04/12/2008, -1/+3You are a bitch.
- buddhistMonkey, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2What you describe is a beautiful vision of a future full of great promise and possibility, an aspiration to elevate mankind's collective soul, which is the lofty goal of all who are Enlightened. It's too bad that you were actually being a sarcastic dillweed.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -8/+0stop drinking the kool-aid dude. Modern day God? healed? No more poverty? hahaha...you have an external locus of control my friend and that will be a problem for you for the rest of your life.
- helraizr, on 04/12/2008, -18/+4Paul/Ventura '08
Lets not talk about it, Lets just fix it.- Willravel, on 04/12/2008, -6/+2Paul/Kucinich '08, because Kucinich never said "I'll never run for political office again".
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -2/+2Great idea, take two congressmen with wildly different ideologies and policies and slap em together just to please the internet fandom.
There's a reason Paul and Kuchinich got next to no votes, and that's because all the internet fandom is capable of, is talking about things they know nothing about on Digg, rather than actually getting off their slacktivist asses and doing something about it.- Willravel, on 04/12/2008, -1/+4Says the digger.
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1What kind of a comeback is that? I'm not actually pretending that I can vote in this country. I don't get that right until I'm naturalized. Sadly I'd actually like to vote, whereas you idiots will sit on your arse and waste the opportunity.
- Willravel, on 04/12/2008, -1/+4Says the digger.
- amirman, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2more like Paul / Gravel because they're both Libertarians now. except i'm voting for Obama. he's not ideal but he's damn good. He's a pragmatist whose record shows he knows how to get ***** done.
- emmeron, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1I just crapped myself. Neither of them are true Libertarians. Paul is more than Gravel by far though. That's SAD that the party is stooping toward "who can get a spotlight" when they are the "party of principles." Really sad.
- TotalHalibut, on 04/12/2008, -2/+2Great idea, take two congressmen with wildly different ideologies and policies and slap em together just to please the internet fandom.
- Willravel, on 04/12/2008, -6/+2Paul/Kucinich '08, because Kucinich never said "I'll never run for political office again".
- markh1225, on 04/12/2008, -17/+7It's good to know that Obama stands by his comments on the "Small Town Americans" to whom he's currently pandering in Pennsylvania and Indiana. What a classically left-wing liberal statement. We know what 'religion' means in Obama's word - a tool to manipulate the masses, a la Rev. Wright. No wonder this Harvard and Columbia educated douchebag, son of an Athiest and a Muslim, views traditional Christian faith and values as no more than a crutch on which simple midwesterners lean, like liquor to the Indians. An 'God forbid' that anyone actually takes our Second Amendment rights seriously. So much for Obama's inclusive new society, where things will be sooo different. Yeah, different all right, just not American in spirit or values.
- iDoraemon, on 04/12/2008, -3/+4You're commenting on trivial things. Last I checked, these "religious values" don't seem to matter on real issues like our country being in an economic crisis. Sounds like Obama made a great case about this from this link. Burying your comment for talking about irrelevant crap.
- markh1225, on 04/12/2008, -5/+1The economy is important. Values and character, ultimately, are more important, because they dictate how a President, for ex., will deal with the issues with which he is confronted.
- Timetheos, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3The last time people tried what you proposed, we got the current piece of crap in office.
No more. - emmeron, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3@ Timetheos -- Wow, that's a statement that could only have been made by someone too young to vote in 2000. Oh, Bush talked that talk, sure, but the truth was out there about him!
@ Markh1225 -- Don't take it personally that you've been buried: diggers can't help themselves with Obama, and at this point if the man came out admitting to a thousand reasons not to elect him, diggers would claim "the man" forced it from him at gunpoint or something.
- Timetheos, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3The last time people tried what you proposed, we got the current piece of crap in office.
- markh1225, on 04/12/2008, -5/+1The economy is important. Values and character, ultimately, are more important, because they dictate how a President, for ex., will deal with the issues with which he is confronted.
- iDoraemon, on 04/12/2008, -3/+4You're commenting on trivial things. Last I checked, these "religious values" don't seem to matter on real issues like our country being in an economic crisis. Sounds like Obama made a great case about this from this link. Burying your comment for talking about irrelevant crap.
- kalvinb, on 04/12/2008, -20/+6Calling people bitter is not the problem. He was accusing them of being racist as a result of their bitterness. So if you're a bitter person then Obama assumes that you'll be racist or religious or carry guns around.
"And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
He wants to pretend that the problem is calling people "bitter." He needs to apologize for claiming that bitter people are racists, religious, and/or gun nuts.
He's essentially arguing that religion, racism and the 2nd amendment can be "overcome" by getting rid of the reasons to be bitter.- tjmb9, on 04/12/2008, -2/+5your little explanation is based on an interpretation of what he says that is contrary to the one to which obama refers in his reiteration of his quote.
- markh1225, on 04/13/2008, -0/+1You mean his opinion is contrary to Obama's backpedalling? Maybe you need Obama to tell you what he 'really meant.' It's obvious to the rest of us. I understood him the first time.
- tjmb9, on 04/12/2008, -2/+5your little explanation is based on an interpretation of what he says that is contrary to the one to which obama refers in his reiteration of his quote.
- coffee200am, on 04/12/2008, -10/+4I can now feel sorry and disgust for small towns people. They are the cause of racism...because they are so bitter.
- u2wedge, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2and you are a contributing cause of ignorance.
- EvilAirman, on 04/12/2008, -11/+5he didn't even make a suggestion about how to fix anything.
- darwinwins, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3he didn't have to cos he was responding to their accustation as opposed to making claims.
- groone, on 04/12/2008, -14/+3blah blah blah change change nom nom om om om...
- x0rcist, on 04/12/2008, -2/+7And that's why I'm running for president of the United States of America.
- tjlyttle, on 04/12/2008, -4/+24just as i finished watching the video i overheard my parents listening to fox news, and Sean Hannity was using this speech to say that Obama was saying that indiana voters are gun-toting religious bigots.
***** fox news- sweetholymosiah, on 04/12/2008, -0/+7Go unplug your god damn television. Corporate news has assisted in the dismantling of your parents sanity.
- u2wedge, on 04/12/2008, -0/+4hannity is such a douche.
- peticsu, on 04/12/2008, -2/+6I wish he would keep up the rebuttals like this, please Barack dont slow down...the people needs someone that fights for them!
- hostingpursual, on 04/12/2008, -6/+22***** fox and cnn. ***** lou dobbs.
- dBass, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3"***** lou dobbs." Gross!
- gsadamb, on 04/12/2008, -0/+3I've been watching a lot more CNN lately, and it's actually mostly okay these days I find. I like the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer, and I like Jack Cafferty. But yeah, Lou Dobbs makes me wretch. With all that's going wrong with this country, he wants everyone to believe that illegal immigration is one of the biggest problems. Dobbs should stop preaching about "the law" until our President and our government can adhere to it.
- Nanobe, on 04/12/2008, -1/+7http://youtube.com/watch?v=90ELleCQvew
- coffee200am, on 04/12/2008, -9/+3People who live in big cities do not turn to guns and religion and racism when bitter.
- darwinwins, on 04/12/2008, -0/+4City people are more liberal - look at voter distrubution charts from 2000 and 2004 - huge blue spikes in metropolitan areas and flat sea of red everywhere else.
- Kral, on 04/12/2008, -1/+2Big city people react the same way - when disenfranchised they turn to the things that make them feel secure, like Hybrid vehicles, street gangs, and salsa made in NEW YORK CITY.
- truthHurtsLiars, on 04/12/2008, -0/+2Are you kidding me, that's what inner city urban behavior is ALL ABOUT. Education and Economics are two important keys to everything in this country. My wife and I do well now, but there was a time when we didn't and it made me look at the world in a whole different light than how I view it now. People with silver spoons in their mouths never may read about this, but they will never get it...
- FiestyPumpkin, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1Violent crimes are way more prevalent in cities than in rural communities. Check the statistics. And, I am inclined to make an educated guess that it is, indeed, due to the economy. In the city it is easier to see the enormous gap between rich and poor. All you have to do is walk a couple of blocks. I think we need to level the playing field a bit. Quit rewarding the crooked and start rewarding the honest, hardworking people of this country.
- JointVenture, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1Yeah, thats why they want to change the law in DC so they (liberal city dwellers) can carry guns.
- jtdoty, on 04/12/2008, -3/+9Finally somebody says it straight! We need a leader, and Barack Obama has that quality. Someone who is for people, not just another bought and paid for Corporate representative.
- 380ppm, on 04/12/2008, -3/+0http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=7947
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