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OBAMA Wants National Fingerprint Regristry!

blog.heritage.org — This is a step in the wrong direction — at least for a nation that preserves freedom! Obama what are you doing! ! ! Sens. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mel Martinez (R-Fla.) authored a bill (with 11 co-sponsors, including Sen. Barack Obama) that was incorporated into a housing bill passed by the Senate Banking Committee

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  • DavidS9, on 06/09/2008, -6/+47Aren't these people the ones fighting against people people proving who they are before they vote?? And Trying to knock down wiretapping because it invades criminals privacy?
    • Muyoso, on 06/09/2008, -2/+10http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n320/techno_bar ...
    • Rikety, on 06/10/2008, -2/+13These are the liberals who think fingerprint databases will be just one more nail in our coffins, another piece of data they can use to control us, the supposed owners for our country. It is too easy for governments to be corrupt, because of the people in them.

      Totalitarianism marches on, with the help of the international bankers and corporations, oh, yes, and the friendly help of corrupt politicians (can I say that?).
      • Stevanoski, on 06/11/2008, -1/+4Never forget, Clinton used the FBI files to his advantage.
  • BadgerDigger, on 09/04/2008, -13/+43Too bad stories like this will not hit the front page. It is time to start befriending a few central people who show the other side of Obama. Maybe then we can get stuff like this to the front page.

    Here is a starter name for the list:
    onthewriteside - http://digg.com/users/onthewriteside
    obamanation - http://digg.com/users/obamanation

    It would be great to get this list to about 5 DIGGers.
    Suggest another name in the comments.
    Spread the word.

    Obama:
    - CHANGE for the Worse
    - HOPE not to be the next Jimmy Carter
    • siszam, on 06/10/2008, -10/+6It's not like McCain is an alternative. You think a warmonger like McCain is better than great humanitarian, Nobel prize winner like Carter. That shows how messed up your judgment is. Obama is no saint but there really are no alternatives. We may be screwed either way but we can't continue with another debt loving, warmonger.
      • 0nslaught, on 06/10/2008, -1/+6" . . . but we can't continue with another debt loving, warmonger."

        So, Obama is out of the picture too, right?
      • SchmuckofNI, on 06/11/2008, -0/+4Obama will cause more debt if he is elected by getting his universal health care bill passed and democrats historically are spenders, not savers.
    • dlite922, on 06/11/2008, -2/+1What the hell are you freaking out about? Finger prints?

      Doesn't the fed already have my finger prints? I'll tell you what, They have mine TWICE, just in case they missed it the first time.

      Relax, calm your damn horses, numb nuts, Obama does not have a darkside. If he does its not NO WHERE close to anything Bush had and McCain will have.

      There's a reason why people love Obama. Why don't you go find out what the reason is.

      Fingerprints here is to protect our freedom. There's got to be SOME tracking here. Where not an anarchy. But I think its safe to say that injecting a microchip in people and controlling the media, listening to our phone conversations IS a violation of our freedom and although "may" protect us, its too dangerous to give the government that kind of power.

      They can have ten of my fingerprints, just don't listen to my phone calls.
  • relic180, on 06/09/2008, -7/+14I oppose Obama not because of what he is as a politician, but because of the fact that he is only the current figurehead of a corporately owned party. Same as Hillary tried to be, and the same as McCain currently is. Politicians who do not pander to lobbiests and corporate interests, do not become major party nominees.

    Profiteering has no place in federal government, and voting for a major party candidate will do nothing to remove it.
  • The_Wallbanger, on 06/09/2008, -20/+3I'm not thrilled about the central database idea, but since thumbprints were made mandatory for cashing checks, some states have seen as much as a 71% reduction in check fraud.

    It's also fair to point out that this is a bipartisan bill, which is exactly the type of political cooperation Obama has been championing since his campaign began.
    • vault, on 06/10/2008, -1/+11Oh wow, there's "as much as a" 71% reduction in check fraud. How about the 100% reduction in personal privacy?
  • HolmWrecker, on 06/09/2008, -23/+30If Hussien gets elected, we're *****. It'll be Jimmy Carter all over again. Too bad the youngsters have no clue of how bad things sucked when carter was in power. The late 70's were hideous. Unemployment over 14%, gas lines at the stations for blocks, people fighting over gas, food and everything and the clothes and hairstyles, oh my God. We do not need to go back there again.
    A vote for hussien is a vote for ***** us up the ass with no lube whatsoever.
    • DavidS9, on 06/09/2008, -5/+15No wonder he has the San Francisco vote. lol
    • ejde, on 06/11/2008, -5/+3You guys are right - the Repubs are staging quite the comeback with more towing of the losing party lines that have been so clearly defined by the current administration. Any of you guys tried to sell a house lately? Taken a look at the highest national debt in the history of our great nation? Figured out what the strategy in Iraq might be? See an end to the skyrocketing price of oil? Sure, it's plentiful, but it's getting a wee-bit pricey, don't you think?

      Deflect attention from the alternative to Obama all you want. It won't change the fact that McCain sucks even worse - more of the same misery for the next "100 years."
  • chesstwin, on 06/09/2008, -7/+41The US is not turning into the UK. STOP HIM PLEASE.
    • ejde, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Read TFA.

      "According to a Martinez (R - FLA) press release, the language merely “create[s] national licensing and oversight standards for residential mortgage originators.”

      Complain to the Republican originator of the bill if you don't like it. But, at least understand it's not quite as far-reaching as the misleading title of this DIGG submission might have us believe.
  • BrownMoses, on 06/09/2008, -14/+4Okay, lets read about the names mentioned, and the bill itself. First a summary of the act from the Martinez press release:
    http://martinez.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAc ...


    • Would require that all residential mortgage loan brokers and lenders obtain a state license, and provide fingerprints, a summary of work experience, and consent for a background check to authorities.

    • To obtain licensing an individual must, at minimum:
    o Have no felony convictions;
    o Have no similar license revoked;
    o Demonstrate a record of financial responsibility;
    o Fulfill education requirements (20 hours of approved courses, to include at least 3 hours related to federal laws, 4 hours on ethics and consumer protection in mortgage lending, and 2 hours on the sub-prime mortgage marketplace); and
    o Pass a written exam (the exam must be at least 100 questions; minimum score of 75% required to pass).

    • Would require the Federal Reserve, Treasury Department, and FDIC to register all residential mortgage loan originators employed by national banks within one year of legislation’s enactment.

    • State regulators must develop a satisfactory licensing system within one year of legislation’s enactment. If this does not occur, the Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary is empowered to quickly develop the national registry and license, generating revenue for its implementation by charging fees to license applicants.

    The SAFE Mortgage Licensing Act is similar to a provision of H.R. 3012, introduced in the House of Representatives by Representative Spencer Bachus (R-Birmingham). National licensing of loan originators has bipartisan support, and was included in a comprehensive mortgage reform bill which passed the House last year.


    Obviously the fingerprinting part is upsetting everyone, but John Berlau of the Competitive Enterprise Institute says, may “require thousands of individuals working even tangentially in the mortgage and real estate industries — and not suspected of anything — to send their prints to the feds.”

    Competitive Enterprise Institute, let's Google that....
    http://www.google.com/search?q=Competitive+Enterpr ...

    Oh hey, it's a Conservative think tank, takes money from tobacco companies to produce pro-smoking propaganda:

    CEI policy analyst Alexander Volokh went even further. "Perhaps, in the fine tradition of civil disobedience championed by Thoreau, we should even think of smoking as a civic duty," he wrote in the July 1994 issue of the CEI Update. "Perhaps," he continued, "every January 11th -- the anniversary of the Surgeon General's original 1964 report on smoking -- we should all light up, giving a filter-tipped finger, as it were, to a health-obsessed government." Volokh admitted that the government's efforts to discourage smoking "may further the cause of health," but concluded that "there are things more valuable than health."

    They also fight to deny climate change and global warming, have opposed fuel efficency standards (don't you wish your car was more fuel efficent now?), and fought against drug regulation, among other things.

    So, when John Berlau of the Competitive Enterprise Institute is quoted as saying something you might want to find someone who isn't a corporate shill to provide your fear mongering quotes.
    • PHiZ187, on 06/11/2008, -2/+2Thank you for all the effort you put into that post. Someone needs to shine a flashlight on this dark underbelly of the Digg whre the trolls do play.
  • akamurph, on 06/09/2008, -14/+30Obama: Empty Suit
    • Rikety, on 06/10/2008, -2/+12He is MUCH more dangerous than an empty suit.
  • PopcornDave, on 06/09/2008, -7/+17This story broke a week and a half to two weeks ago and got no traction then either. If someone can point out to me the rational behind fingerprinting people working in the mortgage industry because of a crime that was committed - not bad judgment exercised by all sides of the contract - I'd sure love to hear it.

    I could perhaps see it if there were some large amount of identity theft going on within the industry, but I haven't seen a report on that yet.

    Christ at this point we might as well all just go down and give the police our fingerprints to save them all the hassle.
    /sarcasm
  • Xihix, on 06/09/2008, -6/+20Well, I think the truly sad part is that this will never see the front page of Digg...
    • rexblade, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Hmm that is kinda ***** 300+ diggs too.
  • Minarchian, on 06/09/2008, -9/+19What do McCain, Clinton or Obama have to do with freedom?

    Nothing!
  • highdefdiscnews, on 06/10/2008, -8/+14oh my god, he IS the anti-christ... that is scary *****
  • yellowcakewalk, on 06/10/2008, -6/+14I wonder how much he got for his soul? Not much, I'll bet.
  • Labyrinth336, on 06/10/2008, -8/+16... and they criticize McCain...
  • Zanzabar33, on 06/10/2008, -11/+1are you super cereal?
  • SydBloom, on 06/10/2008, -7/+15While our Diggs claiming that Osama Obamanation is a leftist Stalinist bent on creating a ruling class of liberal elites and crushing opposition through tyrannical governmental controls are dugg down..here is yet another evidence of who the Obamanation is.
  • SydBloom, on 06/10/2008, -5/+13This is in the Marxist manual by the way, contrl the flow of capital. Classic communist step.
  • thoughtcrime, on 06/10/2008, -8/+12"If Hussien gets elected, we're *****. It'll be Jimmy Carter all over again."

    No, it will be even WORSE. Hussein will make the Peanut Farmer look like George F*cking Washington.
  • JKap, on 06/10/2008, -5/+16You know the drill.

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.

    BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU.

    Rationalize away, O-bomb-a koolaid-snorters, the "change" offered by your boy is just more of the same--it's obvious.
  • tman84, on 06/10/2008, -5/+12How are the Obamanuts going to spin this one? He's planned on strengthening the Federal Gov since day one, eroding our rights to privacy with Socialized Healthcare, now fingerprint databases?
    This is the type of change we want? The change to a Socialist nation with the nanny State taking over every aspect of your life?
    I always laugh when people say liberals are for "freedom" they are the most anti-freedom group out there.
    • jamesotis, on 06/11/2008, -1/+3They are also the most illiberal group out there.
    • govsucks, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2They are collectivists (Democrat, socialist, communist, trotskyist are all the same thing COLLECTIVISTS)...in 200 years will be calling them the Borg. They'll be running around offering free universal mind link to the hive in 2208.
  • MindStalker, on 06/10/2008, -9/+7Oh noes! The government has for a long time had a fingerprint database off all Lawyers and Stock Brokers. They are going after Mortgage Brokers now oh the humanity.
  • Ruler4you, on 06/10/2008, -2/+8This process should look fairly familiar to every one. Incremental. What looks ok to one person and gets by the 'approval' others divided by demographics may disapprove but are over ridden by the 'process.' What has really happened is that citizens have been supplanted by politicians who believe they know the way. Unfortunately, absolute power corrupts absolutely. And we are witnessing that every day. In 1773 people who considered themselves to be FREE let the British know in no uncertain terms, they weren't paying a Tea tax and they could kiss their asses.
    "Americans" today haven't the balls to face government down mano e' mano. And government won't listen if there aren't enough citizens to MAKE them.
    If government can't keep the databases they have from being lost, stolen or abused by employees right now, how are they going to keep fingerprint (read: Identity) databases secure?
    Ain't gonna happen. Look for abuse like we've never seen before.
  • sexydarin, on 06/10/2008, -10/+6Jimbalyaah Cawtah caused more war by appeasing america's enemies. Appeasement of tyranny leads to many more deaths than actual war. Look at Vietnam. More deaths were caused by the democraps cutting off funding for the war than the war itself. The Democraps caused millions of innocents to be murdered in Vietnam. The leftist lying media never reports this.
    • infinitus64, on 06/11/2008, -6/+2and i suppose that you define meeting with the enemy appeasement you lying neocon.
  • noahsawyer, on 06/10/2008, -2/+6The problem is that a bill like this with a general just cause can include negative add-ons like the fingerprint database. Obama does not necessarily support that part of the bill. He should however make sure he fully reads, and speaks out against negative aspects, of bills like this.
  • cnot3, on 06/11/2008, -3/+9Obama consistently votes away our personal freedoms. He voted for the REAL ID even though his constituents, the state of Illinois, oppose it. The state legislature voted not to comply with the REAL ID act, and yet he continues to support a bill that the people he supposedly "represents" oppose. I go to school at the University of Illinois, and I wish all the kids campaigning for him would realize that the wealth he wants to redistribute is theirs. I see very little difference between him and McCain; which ever way the election goes, our rights and liberties shall suffer.
    • ejde, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Right, all those rich kids who go to the Univ. of Illinois should be up in arms!

      Our rights and liberties have suffered more under Bush than any previous president. Which candidate represents Bush's agenda?
  • shortysmyname, on 06/11/2008, -6/+6We already have fingerprint databases. This bill is to include mortgage originators into the database because of all the mortgage fraud going on! If you are not committing mortgage fraud, then you have nothing to worry about. I for one am sick of all the fraud and am tired of paying for it.
  • sajorojas, on 06/11/2008, -0/+5Great. And we should all trust our loving government not to use our fingerprints to ***** us over some more.
  • rilla825, on 06/11/2008, -0/+4Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul.
  • HappyProgrammer, on 06/11/2008, -1/+2There are many here who are trying to create the impression that Obama would like to create a national fingerprint registry that would include all citizens and not just the mortgage brokers to fight much fraud in that industry.

    Please read the actual bill here before you start to foam at the mouth: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.2595:
  • Rich333, on 06/11/2008, -0/+4Expected/10

    You'd think it'd be obvious, but anyone who would seek to rule others is, by definition, an evil person. It's also not surprising that the supporters of someone with his kind of charisma would try to bury this. Let's not forget what a little-known Austrian painter by the name of "Hitler" once managed to convince others to do, using nothing but his charisma. Hopefully we'll get another revolution before Obama manages to do something similar, but I wouldn't count on it. Most Americans are retarded ***** who think freedom is scary and that people need to be ruled. The only debate that generally goes on anymore isn't over whether we should be robbing, murdering, or oppressing people at all, it's only ever about who should be robbed, murdered, and oppressed and who should do the robbing, murdering, and oppressing, as though robbing, murdering, and oppressing people is an unquestionable necessity. The only people who try to debate the real issues are anarchists/voluntaryists.

    tl;dr: Smash the state!
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