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New Iowa Poll: Obama Widens Lead over Clinton

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  • nikki23, on 01/01/2008, -11/+105I think he has a good shot at this with support from independent voters.
    • epicstruggle, on 01/01/2008, -21/+3I think edwards might pull this one off. He is the second choice candidate for both obama and clinton. This might swing it for him. Personally I hope obama loses big time so that Paul has a chance with independents in NH. For more Iowa polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/presi ... Its too close to call right now.
    • smacksaw, on 01/01/2008, -17/+8I think there are some independents that will vote for him, but not like Paul will get.

      My prediction is that we're going to find that for the first time, young voters actually registered and got active and voted. I think some will support Paul, but I think there is incredible support for Obama amongst these people, which is a metric that is not accurately measured.

      That's why I don't believe polls that say Huckabee is going well, Paul is doing poorly and Obama is close to Clinton. When you think about how poorly measured these polls are, it seems likely that Huckabee simply appeals to the slam-dunk poll participants and Obama is far ahead of Clinton while Paul is twice as popular as estimated.
    • themastersb, on 01/01/2008, -2/+4Looks like Huckabee pulled an "every vote counts" (even if one person voted 10 or more times) stunt.
    • addictist, on 01/01/2008, -8/+1What kind of canned statement is that? Stop trying to convince people. How useless is a statment like "good shot."
    • jbham184, on 01/01/2008, -11/+6JON!
      OBAMA'S LEADING IN IOWA! GIMME A WRY, WITTY COMMENT ON THE SITUATION!

      PLEASE LET ME GO. I HAVE A FAMILY.
  • jrw34, on 01/01/2008, -17/+159Wonderful, but not surprising news...Senator Obama inspires the best in ALL of us and lovely folks in Iowa are the first to get to really know the next president of the UNITED States of America. Obama UNITES, not DIVIDES us. These results are indicative of what's to come. People, not PACs and Lobbyists, will be restored to power.
    • epicstruggle, on 01/01/2008, -25/+6I just wish he would get his grandma a house. Im tired of hearing how she lives in a tiny hut in africa. You would think that with all that money he has, he would help her out. (yes I know Im going to get dugg down.) http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/12/obamas ...
      • ZPWeeks, on 01/01/2008, -4/+13...I have to feel like that really isn't any of our business to judge what is right for his (or any candidate's) family. I mean, if she were publicly speaking out against him, we'd have a different situation, but maybe she wants to be where she is? Or he doesn't want to push his American lifestyle on her? There are a lot of possibilities, and unless it turns out that Obama is a total goon or uses public resources for family (a la Giuliani) I don't see why that should matter.
        • epicstruggle, on 01/01/2008, -8/+3He is the one that brought her up.
      • smacksaw, on 01/01/2008, -1/+4After reading that article, I don't know whether to laugh with it, at it or both.
      • RansomHoldiay, on 01/01/2008, -1/+3yeah man. everyone wants to be an american whether they want to or not!
      • holdencaulfield, on 01/02/2008, -0/+1"Mrs. Clinton might be interested in pursuinbg this."
    • JonGalt, on 01/01/2008, -13/+2YA! hes such a man of principles!

      principle #1:
      Take money from people that produce it and redistribute it to people that dont in the form of healthcare, welfare, social security and food stamps. Theives are great.

      Principle#2:
      Talk about "hope and other crap" to make people feel better about doing #1.

      Theft is theft. It doesnt matter if the government is doing it or some guy in the alley way.

      (FYI: defence, securing inalienable rights, ensuring justice and paying our officials. Anything else is theft.)
      • HenvY, on 01/01/2008, -3/+3Have you considered a move to North Korea? I hear the weather is great.
      • sharkyl, on 01/01/2008, -1/+3"Take money from people that produce it and redistribute it to people that dont"

        Oh, you mean like George Bush's tax cuts? Or the proposed elimination of the estate tax? Because we all know how much "producing" a wealthy heir usually does.

        Bottom line: gap between rich and poor has never been higher, and the wealthy have been raping both the poor and the middle class for quite a while now. So if the middle class has to put its collective foot down and mandate healthcare, welfare, social security, and food stamps so that America doesn't turn into a third world oligarchy/plutocracy you are just going to have to deal with it or move somewhere else.

        We've had enough greed and selfishness, now it's time to help each other.
      • neodorian, on 01/01/2008, -1/+3Well, as soon as you stop using tax funded roads, schools, fire, police, military protection, trade regulation, safe drugs due to regulation, etc. then go back to bitching. Until then STFU and quit with the armchair conservatism.
    • Scarletsdaddy, on 01/01/2008, -10/+1To bad he is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations(CFR) whose main purpose is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, One world Government. He is a puppet, that's why is getting so much airtime. Find out for yourself here at 6:36 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1lTDWcsz2E The only true Americans running for President are Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich.
      • ClaudiuUSA, on 01/01/2008, -1/+0Just saying:
        It's a poll of only 400 people at some places on that graph, so it isn't really that accurate and the race will either be closer or further apart than what it shows, but not by a great margin.
  • hiredgunz98, on 01/01/2008, -38/+6Go Huck!! and Go Obama!!
    • RansomHoldiay, on 01/01/2008, -2/+15Absolutely! Our country would unite under logic and common sense against insane religious fundamentalism.
  • MurphyWatson, on 01/01/2008, -8/+39Hope the same happens in the other caucuses.
    • seanherman, on 01/01/2008, -2/+11Following Iowa, who holds communal, town hall style caucuses, NH will be holding a more traditional ballot type primary. Fortunately, Senator Obama has been surging dramatically in NH as well ( http://www.pollster.com/08-NH-Dem-Pres-Primary.php ).

      The Iowa Democratic caucus is a fascinating beast. Caucusing is interesting enough, but the democrats have a "viability" rule, that makes the process even more complicated. Basically, for a candidate to be awarded any of a district's Iowa delegates (Iowa has 56 delegates, out of 4366 total nationwide. About 2,184 delegates nationwide is the minimum threshold for victory.) they must reach at least 15% support on caucus night. Voters siding with a candidate who doesn't reach the 15% threshold have the option to make a second choice. John Edward's stunning 2004 second place in Iowa was partly fueled by a back room bargain he struck with fellow 2004 Dem. candidate Dennis Kucinich. In any district where Edwards didn't reach the 15% viability threshold, he pledged to encourage his supporters to move to Kucinich, and Kucinich pledged the same for Edwards. The events are incredibly social, and incredibly unpredictable.

      Back on topic, following the Jan 3rd Iowa caucus on Thursday will be the NH election style primary on Jan 8th. On Jan 15th, Michigan will hold their primary, but none of their delegates will count (the story gets complicated here). The next "real", officially sanction DNC primary event will be in Nevada, who will also hold a caucus on Jan 19th. The last official January election date is in SC on Jan 26th, where another general election style primary will be held. Florida finishes out January's election cycle, but will also not reward any delegates, since they violated DNC rules (like Michigan) by moving their election date before the "Super Tuesday" Feb 5th election period (when the bulk of states will be voting in primaries).

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_democratic_prima ...
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucus

      for more information about the 2008 primary calendar, or primaries/caucuses, check out wikipedia
    • borisyelker, on 01/01/2008, -7/+1if obama gets the nomination it won't matter. he won't win.
      • m0tbaillie, on 01/01/2008, -0/+3You're not too good with this "politics" thing, are you?
  • 7Mystery, on 01/01/2008, -11/+47Yeah! There is HOPE at last!
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -10/+1Hope for a CFR puppet being president again, like during the past decades.
      The CEOs of the hugest corporations in the US, prominent members of the CFR, must be laughing so hard seeing how once more they manage to create naive fans for their political puppets.
      The truth about Obama, what he promised the powers that be he will do:
      http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Feb2007/street0207.html
      It is not what he makes you believe he will do.
      All your life you have been brainwashed, and you still watch TV, and you still do not read books. And you think you are intelligent now because like the majority you can see that Bush is a bad president. As long as you do not understand who pulled the strings behind Bush and the neocons, as long as you are not deeply critical of capitalism, you will a a fool, and you will vote for a member of the CFR, for a member of the oligarchy. And they will keep on ***** this planet.
  • u2wedge, on 01/01/2008, -12/+55This is good. I'm predicting an Obama/Edwards ticket.
    • smacksaw, on 01/01/2008, -3/+10I'll throw this out there...how about Obama/Gore or Obama/Clark?

      Ever wonder why those two are still "campaigning" but not running?
      • ZPWeeks, on 01/01/2008, -7/+2I would not be incredibly surprised by Obama/Gore, but I really think that Gore has moved on to try and influence the international community - I don't think that the Oval Office would be the best opportunity for him to work towards his goals any more.

        I am interested to see Obama/Kucinich or maybe even Obama/McCain.
        • smacksaw, on 01/01/2008, -0/+3I'm sure you got Dugg down for McCain there...and he said he would never leave his party, but I would not rule out Obama reaching out to him. I can see him having Republicans in his cabinet and not just token jobs.

          The thing about Gore is that I think he actually cares about the US having a leadership position in the world. Many conservatives are scared of Democrats because they assume that all liberals want to cede our sovereignty to the UN. But the world and UN are so in love with Gore that he could very well shape policy there. What if he were VP or ambassador to the UN and then the next time there's an opening for a Secretary-General...?
      • dbucky, on 01/01/2008, -1/+2i dont know....i think gore's ego is too big to just be vp again
      • seanherman, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1Wesley Clark has already endorsed Hillary Clinton, and has been working very regularly with her campaign. I doubt, after endorsing a competitor, Obama would select Clark as his VP. Edwards seems most likely, but Jim Webb of VA seems another likely choice. He was elected for his opposition to the Iraq war in '06, is a symbol of the opening of the Democrat era, and fits perfectly into the successful model of VPs Democrats have traditionally picked (from the south, a veteran, etc. to further entice southern voters).
    • bcclist, on 06/11/2008, -1/+17obama/edwards = too young. obama/gore = gore said publicly he would never be a vp again. obama/clark = possible. interesting combo.
      • jdb252, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1The recent attack trading in Iowa will probably hurt the chances of an Obama/Edwards ticket anyways.
      • seanherman, on 01/01/2008, -0/+2Wesley Clark has endorsed Hillary Clinton, and has been working for the Clinton campaign tirelessly for the last several months. Check out Clinton's campaign website for details. I doubt Obama would select a VP running mate that was opposing his nomination.

        More likely, Senator Jim Webb from VA would be selected. I posted my reasons in the comment immediatly above, if you want more details. Basically, the democrats are absolutely going to pick a southerner, since that seems to have been an effective strategy for persuading moderates and middle Americans to vote Democrat. Jim Webb is the Senator who has been keeping Congress in session during the winter break, to prevent and recess appointments by President Bush (occasionally "convening" congress for only a few seconds a day). He's a veteran of Vietnam, and defined himself in his '06 candidacy by an opposition to the Iraq war. Jim Webb is all any democrat needs in a VP.
        • bcclist, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I saw Clark on Hill's website. Of course he would endorse her within the last year when she was leading iowa, new hampshire, and south carolina by double digits. But, I assume his endorsement was fueled by the fact that she would coast through the nomination and he would be the obvious choice for vp since he supported her during the primaries. I still think he could run with Obama though unlikely...hence, "obama/clark = possible. interesting combo." Webb is fine but talk about lack of political experience. Obama is going to have to find someone that has been in Washington or politics for some time to ease some of general election voter concerns.
      • sinderphytik, on 01/02/2008, -0/+1Only problem with Webb (from my home state, mind you) is that he's also a relatively inexperienced politician. I'm not sure Obama should be paired with someone who actually has *less* experience than him.

        I'm thinking an Obama/Biden ticket is the most likely turnout, unless he picks someone who no one was predicting.
    • corevette, on 01/01/2008, -11/+2edwards? i hope your joking
      he's almost as bad as hillary
    • chambana, on 01/01/2008, -1/+21Obama is not Kerry. He will pick the person he feels most complements him, not just someone running against him now. Chances are most of us will have never heard of his choice. A Southern governor or senator most likely.
      • teeljuice, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1Why would he Southern governor or senator?
        • iofthestorm, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1It's called balancing the ticket, they always choose a running mate from a different region who is likely to gather a different base of support than the president so that they get more votes. The best example I can remember is Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson, who was chosen as running mate for Lincoln so that the border states would vote Republican, ensuring Lincoln's victory.
      • TDEdigg, on 01/01/2008, -0/+2How about VA Senator Jim Webb? That works on many levels.
      • brad3378, on 01/02/2008, -0/+2How about a female talk show host from Chicago?
    • mcduckov, on 01/01/2008, -2/+15Actually Obama and Biden would be groovy. Biden has some serious foreign affairs chops.
    • gthrank, on 01/01/2008, -9/+1Obama / Ron Paul? Ah we can but fantasize. Obama would fix some of Ron Paul's more wacko policies like those pertaining to tax, and Ron Paul would help redefine the overreaching, invasive federal govt's purpose in our lives.
  • ShemDaimwood, on 01/01/2008, -6/+35The Des Moines Register poll was the only organization in 2004 to predict a win for John Kerry. Their track record with "final poll before the caucuses" is pretty good.
    • epicstruggle, on 01/01/2008, -2/+9More than one polling org. had kerry winning, the problem comes in that a caucus is hard to predict. You dont just cast your vote and be done with it. Its like a neighborhood meeting where things can chance dramatically.
      • jdb252, on 01/01/2008, -1/+2It actually is pretty accurate for the top candidates because only candidates who are not considered "viable" - i.e. can't get even enough support for one delegate - have their supporters thrown to other candidates.
  • cptkevin, on 01/01/2008, -14/+78Obama is bringing hope to the United States. This is what we need more than anything right now. Like Reagan in the 1980s, Barack is speaking of a better time and is going to make people proud again to be American.
    • DaDrake, on 01/01/2008, -22/+4When he talks about income distribution and eliminating conceal handgun permits..... I don't feel any hope. I see more governmental interference in our everyday life and a growing abuse of government.

      Here comes another carter...
      • darienphoenix, on 01/01/2008, -5/+13Yes, because civilians carrying concealed weapons makes for a very safe society.

        ...

        Americans.
        • pleasureismine, on 01/01/2008, -3/+3Yes because all americans are thieves. *sarcasm*
        • Daedalus17, on 01/01/2008, -4/+3Well actually it seems that it does. At least in America. Compare the crime rate of the states with concealed handgun permits to that of the states without concealed handgun permits. Notice anything?
        • smacksaw, on 01/01/2008, -2/+4Sorry there darien, but the old saying "An armed society is a polite society" applies in the USA. I'm guessing you're not an American, so it's you putting your limited perspective on the reality of our lives, but the truth of the matter is that states that have strong laws benefiting gun owners see a decrease in violent crime when instituting said laws. It's like locking your door, or putting a club on your car. If someone is truly determined it won't matter, but it discourages gun assaults. Some people think twice before attacking someone who might be able to defend themselves, and people who can defend themselves have less chance of a dire outcome.
        • EarlOfLade, on 01/01/2008, -1/+6@ USMarinesTanker:
          Yes, I would and here is why:
          1. As any person with some brain knows, when you have a gun pointed at you, the last thing you want, is to make any sudden movements.

          2. As anyone who has ever watched any real life cop shows showing shoot outs, knows, not even trained police officers who are in stressful situations on a daily basis and who trains with firearms on a regular basis, can eliminate a person sitting in a stationary car unless they pepper the car with 50-100 rounds and then it's not even sure the person is dead.

          3. Money I can live without, my life I can't! Most people are smart enough to understand this and would hand over the money without acting like a fool.

          And as anyone who has more than 3-4 years of school would be able to understand, all statistics shows that USA with it's lax gun policy has easily 5-40 times more gun related homicides than in countries with gun regulations. Claiming that gun laws or lack thereof has nothing to do with it, is childish at best and would require supporting evidence that you will not be able to produce.
        • coviecarbine, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1EarlOfLade, Remember that gun control doesn't stop criminals getting guns, it stops law abiding citizens from having guns. In places with gun control your simple more likely to be killed with a knife instead. Since when has digg been so pro-gun control?

          DarienPhoenix- I would have dugg your comment if it didn't have the sarcasm.

          Also and most importantly, the second amendment must be respected if we are to respect the first.
        • zaphar, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1"all statistics shows that USA with it's lax gun policy has easily 5-40 times more gun related homicides than in countries with gun regulations."

          that's kind of a stupid statement for the mere reason that people who commit homicides use whatever they can. In the US most use firearms, in other countries they mainly use knives. It would be like me stating: there are more car related deaths in the US than in countries that have few cars (North Korea).
      • jsebrech, on 01/01/2008, -1/+2Oh please, which of the front runners is truly about smaller government?

        I commend you for wanting a return to the original constitutional power balance, but it's never going to happen. The best you can hope for is a candidate who won't abuse the immense power of the federal government at your expense, like the bush administration has, and I think obama is probably one of the candidates least likely to abuse the government's power.

        As an aside, what makes you think the states would do a better job governing than the federal government? My guess is if magically you got your wish and all power reverted to the states, things would be no better than they were before. What we need is a better system of governance, not a different level of governance.
        • zaphar, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1Redistributing tax money to who he likes seems like an abuse of power to me.
    • Monty2, on 01/01/2008, -16/+1Barack Hussein is hope for what exactly?
      • jdb252, on 01/01/2008, -0/+7He has a track record of reaching across the aisle without compromising his beliefs. That is hope for restored leadership in America, and, after the last 8 years, it's hope enough for me.
      • Depthfunction, on 01/01/2008, -0/+3Hope that we can leave racist jackasses like you in the past.
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -9/+1Like Reagan, he is the best comedian around, and a good puppet of the CFR, so with the help of the corporate media the combination is irresistible, and the brainwashed losers who still watch TV buy it.
  • RansomHoldiay, on 01/01/2008, -8/+65It feels good to be an Obama supporter. Has felt good for a while now, and only seems to feel better. Those poor Clinton supporters just feel ***** and ***** as she digs herself into a deeper hole. Alas...
    • smacksaw, on 01/01/2008, -2/+31I didn't think corporations could feel *****.
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -14/+1What a pitiful fool! Clinton and Obama obey to the same people: the powerful members of the CFR, from Wall Street and from the military-industrial secret services complex.
      All the presidents in the past decades were members of the CFR, all of them fought criminal wars abroad, and they made health-care worse, and the middle-class has received a smaller share of the GDP thanks to them...and those pulling the strings behind the curtain.
      Obama and Clinton are commercials.
      Only Kucinich and Gravel and Paul are independent: they obey to noone, they are no puppets. And surprisingly, the corporations owning the mass-media do not market them to your feeble gullible illiterate brainwashed minds.
      Most of you fall for words and propaganda. Who is bright enough, who is hard-working enough, who is informed enough to write such an eye-opening on Obama:
      http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Feb2007/street0207.html
      Not a member of digg!
      Vote Obama or Clinton and the Pentagon will stay in Iraq and bomb Iran, and greedy corporations will still decide if they pay a doctor to save your life or let you die to make their stock-holders and Wall Street and the CFR happy!
      • RansomHoldiay, on 01/01/2008, -0/+4hey man, it must be a bummer to have to write all of that out on every comment you post....
  • mrinternet, on 01/01/2008, -9/+30Obama/Edwards sounds good ot me.. AOBH
    • pleasureismine, on 01/01/2008, -7/+1How about Obama/Clinton?
      • jdb252, on 01/01/2008, -0/+4Will not happen IMO - They're too ideologically separate to make it work.
    • chambana, on 01/01/2008, -0/+2Obama.Kaine
      OK America
    • Pauliver, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1I'd feel better about Edwards if he wasn't relying on two million dollars of 527 money in Iowa while pretending he doesn't want it but failing to tell them to stop. Then he criticizes 527s in general.
  • jamesalfaro, on 01/01/2008, -5/+55Rock out with your caucus out, iowans!
    • scallon, on 01/01/2008, -3/+13Since it is New Years, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're drunk. In the future, however, I would like more effort to be put forth.
  • thefirstenemy, on 01/01/2008, -2/+11This is encouraging after recent polls have show as little as a 2 point different between first and third, with a 5 point margin of error.
  • EvanVolm, on 01/01/2008, -9/+14Why the hell is Keyes even trying? And it's nice to see Paul has a 4% lead over Giuliani. Still sucks he isn't in the double digits, though...More work must be done!
    • jdb252, on 01/01/2008, -0/+6Giuliani isn't even campaigning in Iowa... He has employed a "late state" strategy.
  • egonSchiele, on 01/01/2008, -19/+22Ron Paul at 9%...shame
    • twrife, on 01/01/2008, -4/+41I think the real shame is that Huckabee is so high....
    • BlackJackJester, on 01/01/2008, -4/+29% of likely voters. I'd say 70% of paul's support aren't 'likely voters'
  • trotskyist, on 01/01/2008, -3/+76Hillary winning would be an Obamanation!
  • Ulisses, on 01/01/2008, -2/+50Notice the polling numbers that discriminate support based on education and income,

    Obama correlates with intelligence, Hillary gets the under-achievers.
    • pleasureismine, on 01/01/2008, -2/+3Interesting.
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -15/+3Intelligence and education? You mean university brainwashing?
      According to Chomsky, university graduates are the most conformistic people around. They got where they are by being parrots, by repeating what masters tell them is true and important. And they end up making more money than other people, so they never become deeply critical of society.
      • imsoclever, on 01/01/2008, -4/+12University Graduates also don't fall prey to bat-***** insane conspiracy theories.
        • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -9/+1I am an University Graduate and I believe the powers that be killed JFK, RFK, MLK, and that 9/11 was an inside job, partly or totally.
          I was so gifted a child that I grew deeply critical of the school system since I found it deeply boring, and school was so easy that I had ample time to look at it critically. And eventually I understood how manipulative it is; John Taylor Gatto, Chomsky, Foucault and countless great intellectuals wrote about it.
        • bcclist, on 06/11/2008, -3/+1ISIfunded911 - you're annoying
      • MrSteamTank, on 01/01/2008, -0/+3University graduates on average are more intelligent than "average people". Not due to any specific reasons other than there generally are a handful of retards that simply couldn't graduate university to begin with. This isn't the majority of the population but they bring down the average intelligence of "average people" .

        By the way I'm not a university graduate. 8P
        • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -5/+1They are not more intelligent: they have a higher IQ. But it is useless if you are brainwashed, conformistic, neurotic,...
          Education is in a way the deepest way invented to control and dominate people.
        • aughsum, on 01/01/2008, -2/+0yes they are. intelligence is more than you're making it out to be. intelligence is being well informed to the point your decisions are actually based off of something. Those with a higher IQ generally choose to widen their knowledge-base, thus making them more "intelligent."

          That was the dumbest thing ive ever read....

          (Not a University graduate.. still working on it)
        • whorunbartertwn, on 01/01/2008, -1/+1Yes he sounds like someone who's bitter that they're less successful than his classmates who stuck it out in college for four years.
        • aughsum, on 01/01/2008, -1/+0yep thats what im thinking.
      • Pauliver, on 01/01/2008, -1/+3Hahaha. 911 truther criticizing conformity and lack of critical thinking.
        • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -2/+1Hahaha. You believe repeating what the corporate media and the state tell you is proof of...what exactly?
      • Qtip42, on 01/01/2008, -0/+2He does make a very good point here, I don't see why you guys digg him down for that. Just because you don't agree doesn't take away from the argument. As always, results of these polls mean nothing but to further hype for candidates that the media tells you are important.
  • DaDrake, on 01/01/2008, -29/+1I hope Hillary gets the nomination, just because I think she would be easier to defeat and if she does win... she atleast doesn't have as many far-left progressive policies as Obama.
  • quomen, on 01/01/2008, -10/+3Happy New Year to you too!!! I'm in Hawaii so I have about 45 minutes to go before the ball drops!
  • cantaclaro, on 01/01/2008, -32/+5It sure would be nice if the United States actually had the money to implement any of these ridiculous programs he talks about. Too bad the dollar isn't worth crap and is continuing to drop like a rock.

    Obama also wants to carry on this war for another 5 ***** years! Are you kidding me? 2013 is his pullout date. He also wants to attack Iran.

    None of these ***** candidates care about the Constitution or our country which actually used to mean something to us.

    *****'em all but Paul!

    Ron Paul 2008!
    http://www.ronpaul2008.com
    • LucasVB, on 01/01/2008, -5/+15Sorry, but Ron Paul doesn't know the constitution. He stated in his essay “The War on Religion”:

      “The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life.”

      Yeah, sure there are lots of references to God in the Constitution, the same he's supposed to be protecting. Sorry, but it doesn't add up.
    • ShootTheCore, on 01/01/2008, -2/+1I think your preaching to the converted here mate...
    • holdencaulfield, on 01/02/2008, -0/+2... yet another example why Ron Paul's view on sex ed is wrong for the country.
  • THEROC, on 01/01/2008, -4/+11Guys, what do you care what people think? You should care about his policies and his voting record.
  • Trollmaster, on 01/01/2008, -9/+50BROS BEFORE HOES!!!!
    • had3l, on 01/01/2008, -6/+3The most awesome comment.
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -18/+2Black male CFR member = white female CFR member = puppet of the powers that be!
      You are as stupid as a sports fan.
      • chaosium, on 01/01/2008, -1/+7Says the dumb as dirt truther.
        • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -8/+1I am less naive than you about deep politics.
          You fall for the Society of the Spectacle.
          And you avoid talking seriously about the power of the CFR. Every four years the CFR makes people vote...for a member of the CFR...without people feeling manipulated. This country is the deepest dictatorship ever: because people deeply defend its values, and buy its propaganda one way or the other in the end, their moments of awareness never reaching any critical depth or point of no return. The mass-media always manage to catch back in their mental nets most of those who were beginning to drift away.
      • brainboy77, on 01/01/2008, -0/+4dumb as sports fans? ok, so we know you don't have a life. I'm guessing 9/11 truther about how the buildings REALLY blew up. or WOW nerd. maybe both.
  • mh732, on 01/01/2008, -3/+8happy new year, indeed!
  • truspect0r, on 01/01/2008, -10/+12Iowa needs more internets. Why is Ron Paul so damn low?
    • plato1123, on 01/01/2008, -2/+5because a) Republicans don't think he can win the general election and b) republicans don't like a candidate that thinks Bush... the guy they all voted for... ***** us all over! they so desperately want to believe Bush did the right thing but Iran ***** us over... or the terr'ists ***** us over... or we didn't quite torture enough information out of them
    • jdb252, on 01/01/2008, -6/+18Iowans actually take this process extremely seriously... That's probably why.
  • StanleyKoolPrik, on 01/01/2008, -7/+37Hillary is a ***** neo-con.
    • unitedskates, on 01/01/2008, -3/+7Hillary and Edwards (shudder) have been far more committed to progressive reform during this campaign than Obama—that's a ***** fact. There's more to the presidency than a vote from 4 years ago on Iraq... Obama and Clinton's foreign policy positions are virutally identical. However, Hillary hasn't been promising to capitulate to big-business and the Republicans on every aspect of domestic policy for the last 2 months... and this is the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY CAMPAIGN. At this rate, by September Obama will be wondering if Roe v. Wade is a "such a big deal," or if we really need this social security thing.
      • MissSilkie, on 01/01/2008, -2/+0The context within which you are using vulgarity indicates you do not know the meaning of either fing or fact. you would do well to brush up on your definitions, then perhaps your opinion would have more merit.
        It is good that someone is wondering about the future intentions of our candidates. SAY TODAY and DO TOMORROW is not necessarily to be believed. Obama is relatively unknown and panders to pretty words and catch phrases which sounds good on the campaign trail, but WHAT has he ACTUALLY DONE.

        • Elliuotatar, on 01/01/2008, -1/+1The question should be what HASN'T he done. All the other candidates are corrupt, or morons. If you put Hillary in office, you might as well elect Martha Stewart.
      • BlackJackJester, on 01/01/2008, -1/+1We don't need this Social Security thing. Its a complete mess, its time to get rid of it. At least Bush tried to reform it, but congress wouldn't touch it.
      • Deputydon, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1Didn't you know 1 in 10 people die when you put Hillary and Edwards name in the same sentence?
    • lowjeep, on 01/01/2008, -6/+1Wow. FInally, someone who has an idea what a Neo-Con is. For those that are too stupid to understand (no a Neo-con is not just any conservative/GOP member) a Neo-con is a Democrat that finally got enough sense to jump over to the GOP.
    • had3l, on 01/01/2008, -4/+1More like a Neo-Liberal
  • Jo9100, on 01/01/2008, -9/+26Obama/Kucinich would actually be perfect!
    • OdinEye, on 01/01/2008, -10/+5I suppose so, assuming you want Obama to lose the general election.

      Kucinich may have some interesting ideas, but he's clearly not an electable candidate for a national executive office.
      • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -5/+5Who does not want real health-care? Who does not want out of Iraq NOW? He is the most electable candidate. It is just that the corporations hate him and the corporate media do their best to sell other candidates, and make people believe he is not a top candidate.
        As Chomsky said: in the USSR the powers that be did not care what the people thought, because they controlled everything directly through the absolute power of the state and of the communist party. In the US, the powers that be need to brainwash people every day, because the society is much freer; that is the only way for them to stay in control.
        • Scaryclouds, on 01/01/2008, -1/+21. Obama gets a HUGE amount of air time, second to only Hillary
          2. Everybody want real healthcare, however having the government do it is not the best solution
          3. Obama will not end the Iraq war "NOW" he has not made a pledge to remove troops from Iraq before 2013.

          Wake up!
        • whorunbartertwn, on 01/01/2008, -2/+1SHeesh another stupid "wake up" regurgitation... I swear I'm going to write a browser plugin that automatically replaces the phrase "wake up" with "I'm a retard"
  • dondanero, on 01/01/2008, -12/+1"As your neighbor in Illinois, I campaigned for Senator Obama and voted for him. However, he has been a big disappointment. During his first year in office he went on a promotional tour for his book and his second year he has been running for president. The people in Iowa have seen our senator far more than his current constituents in Illinois. He has also missed votes and/or voted present. He appears to have the same attitude as our Governor in Illinois. You don't have to show up for your job or do your homework. Senator Obama is truly inspirational with words, but his actions or lack thereof speak even louder."

    Quote from comments at linked site. Amazing anyone would consider him for the presidency.
    • chambana, on 01/01/2008, -1/+3I question this person's motivation. It's very easy to feign civic engagement to make it seem like your views have more depth than just disliking a candidate for partisan reasons. As an Illinoisan, I am entirely proud of what our junior Senator has done and has yet to do.
      • runCMD, on 01/01/2008, -1/+1For those of us that have heard the 'I'm going to change the world speach .... numerous times over the years, by other politicians - including the Clintons of the past ... Obama's speech is just so much more in-experience talking. The only thing he has proven is - that like others - he can change his his mind. That is promising, but not enough for me to vote for him for president. Yet.


        • chaosium, on 01/01/2008, -0/+3"For those of us that have heard the 'I'm going to change the world speach"

          You idiots are voting Ron Paul. You have no room to speak.
    • jdb252, on 01/01/2008, -0/+5Voting "present" in the Illinois legislature is actually a strategic move. A call of "present" often indicates to the sponsor that the bill, though it will eventually gain their support, is not ready for a particular bloc of Senators to support it in its current form - Illinois politics is hardball, trust me.
  • unitedskates, on 01/01/2008, -15/+6Obama is a fantastic speaker, and the IDEA of Obama is great, but I find it to be very disheartening that his watered-down non-content campaign is drawing so much support. It seems like the less substantive discourse he engaged in, the more popular he got. I keep getting pushed more into the Hillary camp by Barack's lack of substance. You people need to realize that his message of cooperation and hope is the kind of stuff that allows the progressive movement to erode year after year. Democrats needs to stop being pussies.
    • AAjax, on 01/01/2008, -1/+4But Oprah says he's great?
      • MissSilkie, on 01/01/2008, -3/+0And Oprah has done what for the AMERICAN PEOPLE?
        When Oprah gives all AMERICAN children a health bill they can pay the doctor with, when Oprah makes education available to all AMERICANS, when Oprah takes care of AMERICAN VETERANS who have have been injured in whatever war, when Oprah addresses the social problems of ALL AMERICANS, I MAY believe in Oprah and who she supports politically.
        • jdb252, on 01/01/2008, -1/+1She gives a bunch of her audience members cars. And she has a book club. Hell, let's elect Oprah! Two new cars in every garage and a get-in-touch-with-your-feelings book on every coffee table!
        • dksupremacy, on 01/02/2008, -0/+0Aajax wasn't being serious Miss...............
    • Scaryclouds, on 01/01/2008, -1/+2Oh god your being pushed into the Hillary camp? UGH!
  • m8ymerc1, on 01/01/2008, -21/+8These polls are so F%&$ing stupid, the day before yesterday it was reported that Hillary had a 4% lead over Obama.
    I don't give a flying yoohoo about polls. I'm still voting for Dr. Paul
    • imsoclever, on 01/01/2008, -1/+9I don't give a flying "yoohoo" for "Dr. Paul", so it would be great if people didn't constantly talk about some one who is clearly not making it past the first couple rounds of primaries.
  • somespecial, on 01/01/2008, -11/+3Who cares about Iowa anyway?
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -4/+1People are so ***** naive!
      Iowa is not the first state to vote by chance. Like if election day is not on a week-end it is by design. Many little factors have been put in place because they help influence the democratic process in a certain direction.
    • FzBravozf, on 01/01/2008, -0/+3The first three or four primaries usually determine the parties nomination. It gives the winning candidate a huge boost on Super Tuesday.
      • somespecial, on 01/02/2008, -0/+1I realize all that. I'm just saying. Why should we let Iowa determine how we vote in other states? Are people really that naive?
  • terroristusgov, on 01/01/2008, -20/+2Who wants these senseless wars besides Hillary, and Obama?

    The Iraq war is based on a lie.

    United States Government are terrorists, war criminals, and horrific liars.

    9-11 was an inside job! What happened to building 7?

    Depleted uranium is a weapon of mass destruction!

    Play Wall Street like a PONZI SCHEME!
  • PinkoComrade, on 01/01/2008, -4/+18Awesome but where is Kucinich on that graph?
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -6/+2The corporations and their media do not want you to think about him. You must vote for the candidates heavily marketed by the corporations.
  • quraid, on 01/01/2008, -2/+16i'd rather Kucinich won oner all others, any day. but among the media established front runners, Obama is my least hated candidate.
    • Pauliver, on 01/01/2008, -1/+1So basically under this logic any candidate who gains widespread support is "media-established"? I'm not voting for Kucinch because his views too extreme and polarizing and don't think he will unify the country in the way that Obama can, not because the media says I shouldn't vote for him.
    • thedragon4453, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1My thoughts exactly. I've been basically trying to figure out which candidate seems less evil. My hope though is that either Kucinich or Obama get the democrat nomination. I'd like to think that we wouldn't elect complete nutjobs like Guiliani or Huckabee after the travesty that is GW's presidency, and with Obama as their competition I don't think we would.
  • lowjeep, on 01/01/2008, -10/+3Cool either way. Doesn't matter if the Neo-Comms put through a woman or a Black (African-American). Duh...... why do you think ol' Rup ( Rupert Murdoch) has contributed so much money for Hillary. Either way the GOP takes the presidency. Thank you tin-foil hat idiots.
  • cv6nick, on 01/01/2008, -6/+5I won't vote for anyone who would not pull troops out of Iraq ASAP.
    • plato1123, on 01/01/2008, -2/+4Seriously! Merry Christmas Iran, the United States got you something special... Iraq!
    • Pauliver, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1Pulling one to two brigades out a month (Obama's plan) is the best idea, because if things start going awry we won't be caught with our pants down and it gives us the best long term shot at success.
      • floatingpoints, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1Success for what? The war is not, and will never be, a success.

        Unless you mean success with pulling out.
    • thedragon4453, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1I'm not positive, but I don't think any of the candidates have stated that they will call for immediate withdrawal. I think maybe Paul, but I am not sure.
  • chenkersthecat, on 01/01/2008, -5/+33The U.S needs Obama in the same way that Bush needs prison time.
    • MissSilkie, on 01/01/2008, -15/+0What you say is confusing. Explain...
      If you mean that the U.S. needs Obama like we need Bush, I could understand that.
      If you mean that the U.S. needs to expose Obama to the same fate we would expose Bush after his "do nothing but bad" term of office.
      If you mean "Down" with Obama and "Down" with Bush.
      I would agree....
      • trumsey2005, on 01/02/2008, -0/+0He is saying up with Obama down with Bush... not very complicated, Bush should rott for war crimes and Obama should get the presidency. Do you need me to break it down further? Or perhaps in another language?
  • henrikakselsen, on 01/01/2008, -5/+2Obama/Gore?

    /hmmmm
    • MissSilkie, on 01/01/2008, -4/+0Who are You? And what pipe dream are you smoking?
  • shiv68, on 01/01/2008, -5/+16
    Oprah told me to vote for Obama!
  • GalacticXenu, on 01/01/2008, -23/+7Jesus, reading OBama supporters talk about Obama is far, far worse than some of the worst Ron Paul supporters, and I don't mean the normal ones I mean the crazy ones.

    They obsess about unity (unity in politics? You stupid ***** naive kids) and hope (vague, happy warm fuzzies! wooo!) and much less over the issues. It's like a personality cult because he's just ***** charismatic.
    • Monty2, on 01/01/2008, -9/+1I have no clue to this 'unity' they are talking about. I see nothing more than a black liberal.

      That's not going to unify ANYTHING except for the extreme leftwing.
    • dagamer34, on 01/01/2008, -2/+10At least we aren't spamming digg with billions of links?
      • GalacticXenu, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1Obama, Kuchinich, and Ron Paul all get link spammed whenever one of them so much as farts.
    • chaosium, on 01/01/2008, -3/+3Hey Xenu why don't you beat up your mom and get the cops called about it.
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -4/+1Exactly! It is the Hollywood/TV/star system influence over the minds in action: the best comedian wins! The best comedian best marketed by the mass-media, by the corporations in control of the mass-media.
      Meanwhile, serous candidates like Kucinich, Gravel and Paul do their best without the mass-media but with real ideas supported by a real track record that matches their words. But marketing/propaganda has proven that quantity wins over quality, so what matters is how often you appear in the mass-media, how much love and respect the mass-media show a candidate. Without huge grass-roots support Kucinich/Gravel/Paul cannot win. When will people get rid of their TV? When will they support the best candidates and campaign for them relentlessly?
      And real intellectuals do their homework and tell the truth about candidates like Obama, here on the magazine of Noam Chomsky, ZMag:
      http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Feb2007/street0207.html
    • jdb252, on 01/01/2008, -2/+8Obviously you have a little motivation to say that, GalacticX - seeing as how you're a Ron Paul supporter yourself. Coming from a source like you, that opinion is not credible.
      • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -6/+1People who vote for independent candidates are much more credible than the naive people who support the CFR puppets.
        • GalacticXenu, on 01/01/2008, -0/+2Shut up with this "CFR Puppet" nonsense, being a member of the CFR is a huge red flag for globalist politics but it doesn't make them part of some hive mind.

          But you're otherwise right, independent candidates are far better than these laughable frauds. I think a lot of these democratic first-timers would buy a used car from Obama and simply "hope" they didn't purchase a lemon.
  • MissSilkie, on 01/01/2008, -5/+2Your mama probably told you to do lots of things also, did you do what everything she said?
  • w3bsmith, on 01/01/2008, -5/+4And Ron Paul gets the near 10% needed for the grassroots to place him well.
    • trumsey2005, on 01/02/2008, -0/+0The loyalty of RP advocates despite his numbers makes me wonder how he is circulating drugs to all of you guys
  • plato1123, on 01/01/2008, -9/+2I think I'm the only one left who still likes Clinton! Maybe I just want to see Bill as first lady!!
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -4/+2Pathetic! The US killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, 90% of them innocent families/bystanders, and you talk like a stupid Hollywood fan, who sees this election like a fan of the star-system.
      Shame on you!
      And there is a planet to save from our huge pollution!
      • plato1123, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1No actually I think Bill Clinton is brilliant and has an incredible excellent economic team and an incredible knack for spreading good will around the world
        • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1He killed as many Iraqis as Bush did.
          He was a differently marketed puppet.
          The fact that he was not assassinated proves that he did not bother the powers that be.
          Always go back to why JFK was assassinated if you want to look clearly at presidents and candidates, and what they stand for, what they are fighting for, who they are fighting against.
  • Monty2, on 01/01/2008, -13/+4This obama thing really speaks about the mess of the democrat party. This guy is a nobody, with nothing going for him, but is now leading because her heinousness hillary is so unbelievably rotten.

    If this clown wins, say goodbye to everything everyone on here likes about ron paul. He's a big government, in your face, taxation freak. Period.
    • chaosium, on 01/01/2008, -3/+6"This Ron Paul thing really speaks about the mess of the GOP. This guy is a nobody, with nothing going for him, but is now slightly trailing the margin of error because bush's heinousness is so unbelievably rotten."
      • Monty2, on 01/01/2008, -4/+1You speak about the mess of BDS.
        • chaosium, on 01/01/2008, -1/+2BDS?
          • Monty2, on 01/01/2008, -6/+1Bush Derangement Syndrome.

            But anyway, if you want barack hussein, be my guest.
          • chaosium, on 01/01/2008, -0/+2"But anyway, if you want barack hussein, be my guest."

            If you hate Bush so much, why do you sound like such an ignorant dittohead?
    • imsoclever, on 01/01/2008, -2/+12Thank you for reaffirming my choice for Obama. I don't like anything about Ron Paul.
      • Monty2, on 01/01/2008, -8/+1I hate both barack hussein and ron paul.
    • MrSteamTank, on 01/01/2008, -2/+9A big government, in your face, taxation freak sometimes isn't so bad if the money is spent well and as long as it's not a permanent government. The US should get their act in gear and stop funding this retarded war and start funding massive infrastructure projects to improve the quality of life for US citizens.


    • trotskyist, on 01/01/2008, -2/+6If they are managed properly and spent on programs that benefit the populace, not business interests (hello Hillary), I have absolutely no problem with taxes.
    • Pauliver, on 01/01/2008, -0/+4Actually, Obama talks a lot of about fixing inefficiency in government. For example, he wants to implement a system where the IRS uses the information from employers and banks that already gets sent to them to draw up our returns, and then we'll just confirm those, simplifying things immensely and saving us millions of dollars and hours of our time.
  • zlazkn, on 01/01/2008, -14/+0This is gonna be superexciting. I am betting on Hillary to win!
  • davecor, on 01/01/2008, -8/+2Billary! Vote for one, get the second one for free!
  • Delber, on 01/01/2008, -10/+4Polls don't mean *****
  • raleel, on 01/01/2008, -2/+16First off, let me state that I like Obama a great deal.

    It disturbs me a great deal, though, that he has so much in the young vote. The young vote traditionally does not come out _to_ vote, and thus, I fear we're going to get a lot of bark without a lot of bang. Gen Y might be different (I'm Gen X myself), but I'm kind of doubting it.

    So, if you are young, get out there and vote for once. the 2000 and 2004 elections should demonstrate the power of votes to you.
    • BlackJackJester, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1Well, the Polls are for likely voters, and people who haven't voted before i.e. young voters aren't included in these polls. If anything, he will get more
  • froston, on 01/01/2008, -5/+4I am an Obama man first. But this poll also brings to light that Paul is just a few points behind McCain and ahead of Guliani. So why inst he a top tier candidate and allowed in the new, more important debates?
  • Scarletsdaddy, on 01/01/2008, -10/+3To bad he is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations(CFR) whose main purpose is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, One world Government. He is a puppet, that's why is getting so much airtime. Find out for yourself here at 6:36 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1lTDWcsz2E The only true Americans running for President are Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich.
    • ISIfunded911, on 01/01/2008, -2/+1As usual, many people refuse to face the dark reality of deep politics.
      They refuse to face the fact that they are manipulated.
      They just want to believe in someone portrayed as a winner by powerful television, to themselves feel like winners, to themselves feel bigger. They are stupid and suffer from a complex of inferiority.
  • Swift2, on 01/01/2008, -12/+3Tell me, what does empty-suit Obama ("Can't we all be friends?") stand for? Let's see: Hillary is evil, baby boomers are stoopid, and... we can all make things better if we sit down and sing Kumbaya? Seriously, I don't see where his support is coming from. His backers are hard-nosed Chicago pols. He repeats every right-wing meme that's ever existed. "Social Security is in crisis, Trial lawyers are evil, we don't need universal health care, etc." Why do people respond to him so much? Maybe he makes them feel noble, because... well, he's black, you know.
    • thesonofdarwin, on 01/01/2008, -0/+4I just bought some cornflakes. Since I'm a nice guy, would you like some to replace yours that seem to have been soiled this morning?
    • unitedskates, on 01/01/2008, -3/+1This is kind of what I said earlier. It's really disheartening to see so many people taken in by what is essentially just a slick marketing campaign. I hate Edwards, but at least he has ACTUAL policies on the table that I can agree with. Hillary has pulled in front for me... Obama has been nothing but disappointing on the campaign trail. I WANTED to be swayed, and he has pushed me away.
  • Perigren, on 01/01/2008, -1/+3Diggers for Obama!
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