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- marytnurse, on 05/26/2008, -3/+41yeah, the media has forgotten about non-appalachia; a function of being americans i guess, we have short short attention spans.
- Vermillion88, on 05/26/2008, -3/+0If you talk about race, then you're a racist.
- InsultComicDog1, on 05/26/2008, -6/+99Are you kidding? Obama can't win white working class votes. The media told me so. Hillary should win this one by 40.
- bruenig, on 05/26/2008, -16/+3I am in west virginia right now campaigning for Nader and I can guarantee you, Obama will not win here. People absolutely will not vote for him. They are pissed that the super delegates and senators from their state didn't go with the people who voted overwhelmingly for Clinton and they are upset that their person isn't in there. I talk to over a thousand people a day one on one petitioning here to get Nader on the ballot and the story is the same across the board when it comes to Obama. (except for the small black population).
- mrsteveman1, on 05/26/2008, -2/+15You think nader is going to win? i don't.
- bruenig, on 05/26/2008, -3/+3Nader will do even worse than Obama for sure. But I can tell you this: West Virginia is a huge democratic state. All of their elected officials for the most part are democrats, their senators are democrat for instance. But they are conservative democrats and they absolutely will not vote for Obama. They would vote for Hillary though. They are livid that she isn't going to win the nomination. This is what I am getting over and over and over again.
- poxonyou, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5Too bad for them. It isn't Obama's fault.
Obama doesn't have a white working class problem, he has an Appalachian problem, or they have a problem with him for something he has no control over (skin color, his name sounding too Islamic/terroristy for them). - mrsteveman1, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4People who would happily vote for Hillary but not Obama, either don't understand the subjects involved well enough to decide, or they are biased for some reason, because there isn't that much difference.
Obama just happens to not be a moron.
- quez, on 05/26/2008, -6/+12Thank God that Nader supporters are still around, making the country a better place. Just like they did in 2000.
Oh, wait a minute...- bruenig, on 05/26/2008, -14/+8Yawn
200,000 democrats in Florida voted for Bush. Figure that out first, then get back to me. Some of us are liberals and don't like conservative parties like the democrats or republicans. I realize you can't understand that, but some of us want universal health care and want all troops removed from Iraq and thus cannot stomach voting for Obama or McCain since both oppose such things. - Kas70, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3Bruenig, since when is Obama against universal health care and bring troops home from Iraq?
- mrsteveman1, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3I don't care who voted for bush, and i 100% do not believe the election results from 2000 are accurate or even valid.
We can play the "functional democracy" game some other time.
For now I would be perfectly ok with preventing nader from running, because this is not a democratic election in the first place. If you haven't been paying attention for the last few years this process is entirely corrupt, but the outcome can still be good or bad, and i would rather the outcome be a good one, which at this point means Obama winning. - scaaven2, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1bruenig, so we can thank you then. Thank you!
- bruenig, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Kas70, check out barackobama.com, that is a good place to learn about such things. His health care plan leaves 20 million americans uninsured and does nothing to cut cost. And he advocates removing ***********combat************* troops from Iraq. I would recommend listening to him when he speaks. He wants to keep 50 to 60 thousand troops there. And he wants to increase the pentagon's budget. If you think this is an anti-war guy, you just aren't listening.
- bruenig, on 05/26/2008, -14/+8Yawn
- diggn_it, on 05/26/2008, -3/+5Buried for Nader
- mrsteveman1, on 05/26/2008, -2/+15You think nader is going to win? i don't.
- badqat, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2Obama can't win Montana in the general election, so it's irrelevant. Chalk this state up as a McCain win in November.
- malvado, on 05/26/2008, -0/+7Brian Schweitzer, John Tester, and Max Baucus.
They would be the Governor and US Senators of Montana - All DEMOCRATS.
Your logic must be that since Montana is white, they won't vote for Obama.
FAIL.- bruenig, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1All of the west virginia elected officials are democrats too. That doesn't matter though. It isn't indicative of how they vote nationally at all.
- fyngyrz, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4Why do you say that? We elected a democratic governor last time around, and he's been great. We elect who we want to, not who you think we should. That's kind of the state's trademark, independent thinking. That's why we have high speed limits, no sales tax, no commercially-inspired eminent domain, the best 2nd amendment protections in the country, one-time licensing of vehicles ten years old as well as motorcycles and the like. Also, there's very little underlying problem with blacks here. My neighbors are black; they're fine human beings whom I like and trust. This is a state that has a history of doing smarter things than many others; so don't assume we can't pick the best candidate from between Obama and McCain. We may be conservative, but we're not stupid. For that, you have to go down to West Virginia. We know the current administration is wasting our kid's lives and health in Iraq for no gain of any kind; we're not going to put up with that any longer.
- jarofclay, on 05/26/2008, -3/+2Schweitzer is dragging us down. He's too busy drinking and playing with his dog to give us tax breaks. He has raised the state budget 40% during his term and hired over 1000 new government employees. That is insane. Guess who gets to pay for all this malarky? You and I. you and I.
- fyngyrz, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2Guess what, badqat? Obama DID win Montana. Surprise, surprise.
Guess you had no idea what you were talking about after all.
Dimwit.
- malvado, on 05/26/2008, -0/+7Brian Schweitzer, John Tester, and Max Baucus.
- arobicha, on 05/26/2008, -2/+0I thought this wasn't about race...
- pkulak, on 05/26/2008, -0/+8Exactly. That's why Clinton won Oregon by such a huge margin.
- fluffyturtle, on 05/26/2008, -3/+3Obama won Oregon..
- malvado, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6I think you missed his sarcasm (i hope).
- bruenig, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Strawmen are obnoxious. It isn't about race. It is about types of people. The conservative blue collar democrats have shown more than an aversion for Obama. But it is precisely that vote which wins elections in places like west virginia and kentucky which were states Bill Clinton carried, Ohio also.
- fluffyturtle, on 05/26/2008, -3/+3Obama won Oregon..
- bruenig, on 05/26/2008, -16/+3I am in west virginia right now campaigning for Nader and I can guarantee you, Obama will not win here. People absolutely will not vote for him. They are pissed that the super delegates and senators from their state didn't go with the people who voted overwhelmingly for Clinton and they are upset that their person isn't in there. I talk to over a thousand people a day one on one petitioning here to get Nader on the ballot and the story is the same across the board when it comes to Obama. (except for the small black population).
- moolaismyfriend, on 05/26/2008, -8/+48Montana is still the most beautiful state in the Union. Well western Montana at least.
- KLBP, on 05/26/2008, -0/+17Montana is a beautiful state.
- Ahnteis, on 05/26/2008, -7/+5I wouldn't go THAT far, but it does have some absolutely beautiful scenery.
- crapmatic, on 05/26/2008, -0/+11Aw come on, what do you have against Miles City?
- goon5000, on 05/26/2008, -15/+4it is beautiful, no blacks. Seriously though, Obama is half white so what's surprising about white people voting for him?
- dvicklund, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1#FFFFFF - Doesn't play well with others.
- kickinwing, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5Don't forget about North Eastern Montana. My brother worked in St. Mary the past two summers. When I visited him each summer, I was amazed by how breathtaking areas like St. Mary, Babb, and the parts of Glacier National Park that I saw were.
"Turn me loose, set me free, somewhere in the middle of Montana."- fyngyrz, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1"St. Marie" -- it's fifteen miles from here. :-)
- jarofclay, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3St. Mary and Glacier Park is in the northwestern part of the state (not eastern). North eastern is like all prairies and farm land.
- kickinwing, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I'm a dumbass. You are right. For some reason I thought it was the in the east, but then I looked at a map.
- fyngyrz, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1"St. Marie" -- it's fifteen miles from here. :-)
- Metatron197, on 05/26/2008, -1/+4http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mon ...
- NelsonR, on 05/26/2008, -3/+1Beautiful but Montana is very, very cold. Now if you are an Eskimo you will be heart thrilled at the scenery. Although Appalachia it is not, Montana has more progressive thoughts while the elite Republicans lead the illiterate Appalachians around like dogs on a leash. It's called leading the blind or another analogy, slavery without the leash while making your masser richer.
"FOLLOWERS".- Metatron197, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3Cold? when was the last time you were in Montana?
- fyngyrz, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5How does -40f strike you? Personally, I think that's quite cold. NE Montana has some of the coldest weather in the lower 48; my little town (Glasgow) has been on the national news more than once as the coldest place. We've even got our own NWS office and doppler radar station. With only 3000 people.
- fyngyrz, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5How does -40f strike you? Personally, I think that's quite cold. NE Montana has some of the coldest weather in the lower 48; my little town (Glasgow) has been on the national news more than once as the coldest place. We've even got our own NWS office and doppler radar station. With only 3000 people.
- Metatron197, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3Cold? when was the last time you were in Montana?
- chrissku, on 05/26/2008, -4/+29Obama also won the hugely black state of Nebraska with 67% of the vote. Huge black population....I thinks it's around 4% of the state. What's your excuse there Hillary?
- badqat, on 05/26/2008, -10/+4Nebraska, like Montana, will vote for McCain in the fall. McCain currently leads Obama by 20% there. So why do you care which candidate wins here?
- kreneskyp, on 05/26/2008, -3/+120 isn't a single digit number.
for the uninformed thats a reference to the article you didn't read but were still compelled to comment about.- badqat, on 05/26/2008, -4/+3Inaccurate. McCain leads Obama by 20% in Nebraska, and there is no mention of Nebraska in the article. Also, if you'd care to notice, I'm commenting on the comment by chrissku, which mentions Obama's win in Nebraska., and not the article itself.
I'd hope you could see that, but please, continue being as uninformed as you wish to be. - sulthernao, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2Nebraska is also a state that distributes it EV by CD so Obama could win 2 EV ecen though he will lose the state. If Obama gets within a 11 point loss, he could conceivably win CD 1 and CD 2. The poll that you are talking about seems really, really off (CD 3 which is much more republican than rest of the state was more for Obama then CD 1 and CD 2).
Research 2000 sucks in its polling. I'd go with Rasmussen: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/pol ... (50 to 39) or SurveyUSA: http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g= ... (45 to 42, although it is old). - ReidFleming, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Sorry, sulthernao, I didn't see that you already posted this. Oh, and badqat, *you're* the one looking poorly in this thread. Just call it a day, OK? You're missing the point.
- badqat, on 05/26/2008, -4/+3Inaccurate. McCain leads Obama by 20% in Nebraska, and there is no mention of Nebraska in the article. Also, if you'd care to notice, I'm commenting on the comment by chrissku, which mentions Obama's win in Nebraska., and not the article itself.
- rahamm, on 05/26/2008, -1/+6Obama is only behind 5% against McCain in MT that means as of right now it is in play
- ReidFleming, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4Perhaps we care because Nebraska divides up its electoral college votes based on the popular vote. What now?!?!
- kreneskyp, on 05/26/2008, -3/+120 isn't a single digit number.
- AudioPhil3, on 05/26/2008, -1/+4What makes these Black voters so Huge?
- badqat, on 05/26/2008, -10/+4Nebraska, like Montana, will vote for McCain in the fall. McCain currently leads Obama by 20% there. So why do you care which candidate wins here?
- zephyear, on 05/26/2008, -6/+37NO NO MAN, OBAMA JUST CAN'T WIN THE WHITE VOTE.
(if you just ignore every state that's not in the appalachia)- badqat, on 05/26/2008, -8/+3Inaccurate. Obama won the following Appalachian state primaries: Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Virginia. He lost the following Appalachian state primaries: Kentucky, Tennessee, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia. So he was 6 of 6 in Appalachian primaries.
And he's lost plenty of non-Appalachian states as well, like, oh, Arkansas, Arizona, California, Florida, Indiana, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, etc.
Oh, but don't let facts get in the way of your inaccurate and dead wrong statement. Please, continue to sub-divide Americans into whatever racial, social, economic and other groups you can, because that's so central to Obama's message. /sarcasm
- badqat, on 05/26/2008, -8/+3Inaccurate. Obama won the following Appalachian state primaries: Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Virginia. He lost the following Appalachian state primaries: Kentucky, Tennessee, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia. So he was 6 of 6 in Appalachian primaries.
- thesheqq, on 05/26/2008, -9/+6RE: chrissku I live in Nebraska 4% of our state being black would be an extremely generous number for our states black population. Most of our African American population lives in N. Omaha and don't vote.
- ReidFleming, on 05/26/2008, -1/+6We have just under 5% black/AA in NE. Also, I'm pretty sure most of us are 'working class'.
- cathpah, on 05/26/2008, -1/+8guess what?! there's this crazy new feature called "reply" that you should check out. you wouldn't even have to type "RE: chrissku". Think of the time you'd save! AMAZING!
- iMatthew, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I'm from Omaha and echo ReidFleming's point. Also, Omaha's black population is over 13%. I'm not sure thesheqq's statement about Omaha's blacks not voting is not all that accurate, especially this time around. Note that Obama won by 80% - 87% in many Omaha precincts and I'm sure the black vote helped drive up those figures.
None of this takes away from the overall point of this Kos article, however. But everyone keeps forgetting Hillary's point that many states, like Nebraska (and everywhere else she lost) just DON'T COUNT.
- KLBP, on 05/26/2008, -3/+20It has been amazing how the MSM has allowed Clinton to get away with her false claims about Obama having problems with white working class voters and her winning the popular vote (she's note).
- sulthernao, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5I like how in the GE matchups against McCain, Clinton and Obama poll equally well among the white vote... yet nobody in MSM ever talks about it.
- knumbknuts, on 05/26/2008, -4/+36Montanans are pretty highly educated, especially given the state's economy. A lot of college grads stay there and take jobs that aren't that great, just to be able to hunt, fish & ski.
It's a land apart; I wouldn't judge national trends on its populace. - benitojuarez, on 05/26/2008, -4/+52There are no people in montana, who are you trying to kid here?
- trevorh, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5I disprove your theory.
- benitojuarez, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4You sir are a liar!
- trevorh, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5I disprove your theory.
- DiggLive, on 05/26/2008, -27/+13Buried for DailyKos. Biased left-wing blogs aren't news sources.
- zephyear, on 05/26/2008, -3/+9it's just quoting statistics from a poll source
there's no twisting of the facts, it's not an opinion like most of the rest of the site, so it's fine. - dolvlo, on 05/26/2008, -5/+8And CNN is a "news source"? How about Fox News? How about the New York Times? Drudge? Everything is biased, retard.
- moolaismyfriend, on 05/26/2008, -6/+4Digg Live why did you vote for Bush?
Are you embarrassed, ashamed, sorry, at all?- DiggLive, on 05/26/2008, -4/+3Why do you assume that? I've always voted Democratic. I'm simply pointing out that DailyKos and the other left-wing blogs are no better than Fox News. They only complain if its Republican bias.
- moolaismyfriend, on 05/26/2008, -5/+7Not true.
dailyKos goes off on Dems allot. But you don't actually participate on the site so you make ill informed comments about it. I just figured you were a Bush supporter cause your comment was without fact. - patpl22391, on 05/26/2008, -3/+5@ moolaismyfriend -- I could say the same thing about Fox, it's not just making Republicans look good and Democrats look bad.
- moolaismyfriend, on 05/26/2008, -5/+7Not true.
- DiggLive, on 05/26/2008, -4/+3Why do you assume that? I've always voted Democratic. I'm simply pointing out that DailyKos and the other left-wing blogs are no better than Fox News. They only complain if its Republican bias.
- gwolf001, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3Even if that were true, i.e. even if we assume that Kos is a biased, left-leaning blog, is Clinton the right wing candidate now? Her stance on major issues (healthcare, tax-and-spending, abortion etc.) are all to the left. What possible reason would a left-leaning blog have to be biased against a left-leaning candidate?
- fyngyrz, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2Her stance on Iraq and Iran, for one.
- gwolf001, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Wrong! Actually, she has 'vowed' to bring the troops home from Iraq. She's even said that she started criticizing the war before Obama.
As for Iran, do you really think one difference of opinion amongst so many issues would incense the Kos writers so much that they'd go for an all-out Clinton attack frenzy? - fyngyrz, on 05/30/2008, -0/+1I think you need to look at her voting record, rather than what she says. To a politician, words are meaningless. The voting record, however, is something they *do*, rather than say.
- gwolf001, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Wrong! Actually, she has 'vowed' to bring the troops home from Iraq. She's even said that she started criticizing the war before Obama.
- fyngyrz, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2Her stance on Iraq and Iran, for one.
- zephyear, on 05/26/2008, -3/+9it's just quoting statistics from a poll source
- gannondork, on 05/26/2008, -11/+7Obama stole my nomination.
-Hillary Clinton
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GDGYGRHmmhQ&feature=rel ...- SpookyPig, on 05/26/2008, -2/+3. . .
wtf?- gannondork, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4that's what I thought when I saw it. lol.
- Zaggynl, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1That's what she said.
She really did!
- SpookyPig, on 05/26/2008, -2/+3. . .
- shdwsclan, on 05/26/2008, -6/+25Montana has a black population ?
- crapmatic, on 05/26/2008, -3/+7Well, looking at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana) it says the population is 0.50% black... which adds up to 4985. But with a ratio like 0.50% it sounds like the census workers were too afraid to go into Billingz West Side and just made something up.
- goon5000, on 05/26/2008, -5/+1well, they're not real blacks, more like Bliggas. Don't front.
- trevorh, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1*Billings
- hoovcluck, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2the richers live on the west side, its the south side they were afraid to go to
- motogoat, on 05/26/2008, -8/+4
- jameskong15, on 05/26/2008, -1/+7Hear that wooshin sound comming from above your head?
- sovietninja, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1TERRORISTS!
- jameskong15, on 05/26/2008, -1/+7Hear that wooshin sound comming from above your head?
- BabyWookie, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1Yes. His name is George. He gets laid a lot.
- crapmatic, on 05/26/2008, -3/+7Well, looking at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana) it says the population is 0.50% black... which adds up to 4985. But with a ratio like 0.50% it sounds like the census workers were too afraid to go into Billingz West Side and just made something up.
- startswithone1, on 05/26/2008, -24/+5
- zephyear, on 05/26/2008, -1/+9hide topics under "US Election 08"
?- kreneskyp, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4the internets are hard
- Zaggynl, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I see what you did there..
- kreneskyp, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4the internets are hard
- zephyear, on 05/26/2008, -1/+9hide topics under "US Election 08"
- PayStation, on 05/26/2008, -7/+19Best Title Ever.
- EffYoo, on 05/26/2008, -3/+42Oh, are there a lot of huge black people in Montana?
- jjb123, on 05/26/2008, -13/+3Sarcasm.
- Metatron197, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5whoosh
- AudioPhil3, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1It used to just be a hue.
But the 'g' is for Gangsta!
- jjb123, on 05/26/2008, -13/+3Sarcasm.
- cowsgonemadd3, on 05/26/2008, -17/+4So its black people who are the racists....now we know!!!
- nemojonze, on 05/26/2008, -2/+59One black family, but they are all 17 feet tall.
- sigafoo, on 05/26/2008, -4/+12I enjoyed how when Mitt Romney won Montana earlier on for the Republicans MSM barely even gave two ***** about it. Like Montana doesn't really matter at all. Yet suddenly it's this big thing... funny how life works.
- wonderchemist, on 05/26/2008, -3/+44Montana white isn't the same as West Virginia white.
- schrutefan, on 05/26/2008, -2/+34West Virginia isn't so much white as red.
- sonnybobiche, on 05/26/2008, -8/+2I don't understand why calling someone a redneck is okay, but calling someone a ***** isn't. Frankly, I'd like to be able to insult anyone I damned well please, but I'm not all for hypocrisy.
- publiclurker, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5Redneck is a choice, skin color is not. Since you can't figure out such a simple concept, I guess we know what group you are in.
- sonnybobiche, on 05/26/2008, -8/+2I don't understand why calling someone a redneck is okay, but calling someone a ***** isn't. Frankly, I'd like to be able to insult anyone I damned well please, but I'm not all for hypocrisy.
- motogoat, on 05/26/2008, -6/+14
- jameskong15, on 05/26/2008, -6/+2Way to stereotype!
- jameskong15, on 05/26/2008, -2/+2Ohes noes, I guess stereotyping is alright to digg users as long as it applies to those they disagree with. Somehow I doubt they would be so accepting of those who stereotype black people as black superiority supporters.
- sulthernao, on 05/26/2008, -1/+6When 21% of WV voted on the basis of race and voted overwhelmingly for HRC... gee I wonder.
- publiclurker, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1Right, just because the facts apply to 95.26 percent of the population there doesn't mean you can go around saying it..
- austin006, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3when over a 1/5 of the population is basing its vote on the candidate's skin color its not so much a stereotype as an actual classification of the group of ***** making such voting decisions.
"I've had enough of that Hussein!"
seriously???? - jameskong15, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1"I picture a bunch of old, white men sitting around in white robes with pointy caps"
Where are the facts there you ***** idiots?
@sulthernao
Maybe you should look up states with a large black population. Than maybe you would have a ***** clue and your point would be proven invalid.
- jameskong15, on 05/26/2008, -6/+2Way to stereotype!
- metric7, on 05/26/2008, -2/+1Generalize much?
/Bigots
- schrutefan, on 05/26/2008, -2/+34West Virginia isn't so much white as red.
- stonewaljacksn, on 05/26/2008, -7/+4seriously, what the hell are you all talking about. just because political pundits on news stations talk about the possibilities of obama only winning states with heavy african american populations doesn't mean they are force feeding it down your throats. this just proves that none of you here who are jumping for joy over this awful article are capable of taking an OPINION AS AN OPINION but instead take it all as some statement of fact (and if this "statement of fact" doesnt agree with YOUR view, then it's automatically an attack on your pride).
- macweirdo42, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3I don't know where you're from, but here in the good old US of A, the opinions of pundits are all that really matter. Nobody really bothers to actually research anything for themselves - whatever the pundits tell them, that's what they believe. And it really doesn't matter - even if you know for a fact that the pundits are wrong, you can't simply ignore what they're saying because it's going to influence a lot of people regardless.
Case in point - the Iraq War. Now, it was far from a sure thing. The intel was sketchy, the plans were sketchy... In general, there were just a lot of unanswered questions. However, all you heard from the pundits and whatnot was "Gee, this is a sure-fire thing." Fast-forward five years. Oh look, the Iraq War wasn't a sure thing. In fact, this comes as no surprise to anyone who actually looked into it, it was pretty clear that the outcome was far from certain even at the time. But now you've got a bunch of angry people running around yelling about how they were lied to. Truth is, nobody was truly lied to - people just tuned out any information that contradicted what they were getting from the pundits and the like. - perogi21, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink...
- macweirdo42, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3I don't know where you're from, but here in the good old US of A, the opinions of pundits are all that really matter. Nobody really bothers to actually research anything for themselves - whatever the pundits tell them, that's what they believe. And it really doesn't matter - even if you know for a fact that the pundits are wrong, you can't simply ignore what they're saying because it's going to influence a lot of people regardless.
- pyronik, on 05/26/2008, -16/+11ok whatever i dont even care at this point, but acknowledge that 90% of blacks are going for Obama and thats the only reason he is winning
- AxmxZ, on 05/26/2008, -1/+20Black vote winners
1984 Walter Mondale 90% Ronald Reagan 9%
1988 Michael Dukakis 90% George H.W. Bush 10%
1992 Bill Clinton 83% George H.W. Bush 10%
1996 Bill Clinton 84% Bob Dole 12%
2000 Al Gore 90% George W. Bush 9%
Go stand in a corner.- jabberwolf, on 05/26/2008, -3/+2Stats from? Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies ?
Sadly these are only stats in the FINAL presidency race.
What you ignore is that this on the SAME party vote, and the race voting is so one sided its sad.
Sad that black racism is openly accepted, not questioned, and not reported.
Post other facts that are not comparable to make yourself feel better if you must but the comparable facts are embarrassing.
- jabberwolf, on 05/26/2008, -3/+2Stats from? Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies ?
- quiksliver, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2its not just the percentage, but MOAR black people are voting for him, so sure he'll get 90% of thier support in November, but there will be moar people voting for him, not compared to those voting for McCain, but those from previous elections
- mal1964, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1 Mal1964; "I think the endorsement of African Americans, judging by the percentage of their vote in South Carolina is by far the biggest" (2 diggs,)
Wolfegh, "This endorsement is HUGE. The Democratic establishment is finally on board with Obama. Thank you, thank you, thank you Sen. Kennedy.(175 diggs)
http://digg.com/politics/Senator_Kennedy_Lion_of_t ...- austin006, on 05/26/2008, -0/+0wut
- macweirdo42, on 05/26/2008, -2/+4You wanna dance? Let's dance. I see your race card and raise you West Virginia. If this is how things are gonna go down, then I'll counter by saying that the only reason Hillary's getting any votes at all is because of racists like we saw in West Virginia. Really though, I don't want to stoop to that level, I just wanted to let you know that the race card can go both ways.
- jabberwolf, on 05/26/2008, -5/+3mactard you cant stoop to that level because it isnt there.
Obama gets 90-94 percent of the black vote in about every location he goes.
In West Virginia even though there are many many whites, she does not get near the percentage of white vote.
Which means blacks are voting based on race, not whites. Hmmm but then Racism is ok,,, so long as you're black.- macweirdo42, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3My bad, I thought you actually had something productive to say, you worthless troll. I was perfectly willing to discuss the issue, but the first word out of your mouth is "mactard."
- sulthernao, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4Where is your proof that blacks are voting on race. It's all conjecture. Here is something you can't deny - until Billo pissed of SC with the stupid Jesse Jackson remark blacks favored HRC.
Here is my argument: they see something they like in Obama. In any case, it isn't "racism" because they aren't voting AGAINST someone; they are voting FOR someone.
- jabberwolf, on 05/26/2008, -5/+3mactard you cant stoop to that level because it isnt there.
- benitojuarez, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6I'm pretty sure black people only make up about 14% of the entire united states population. Obamas ahead because people of all races believe in him.
- Kas70, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I think it's about 12.8% - 13%, so your case is even stronger.
- pyronik, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1in races that are disputed by less than 5% of the popular vote, having 90%*13%= having round about 11% of the vote in your corner is a back breaker
- Kas70, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I think it's about 12.8% - 13%, so your case is even stronger.
- AxmxZ, on 05/26/2008, -1/+20Black vote winners
- l800LEMMINGS, on 05/26/2008, -4/+3i think it has less to do with winning black votes as much as it does with every other candidate ***** up royally and hoping voters won't care or notice
- JamesZB, on 05/26/2008, -3/+7If the hardworking white folks weren't such a minority in this country, Clinton would of won the nomination a long time ago. That's what CNN said.
- nemojonze, on 05/26/2008, -0/+6Would H-A-V-E. (Or, would've)
- PacoLugi, on 05/26/2008, -0/+0Hardworking white folks vote republican.
- digitallysick, on 05/26/2008, -7/+3black people live in montana? seriously? I had no idea that black people liked montana, i thought it was like vermont
- nemojonze, on 05/26/2008, -4/+1vermontanalvaniatuckessee
- motogoat, on 05/26/2008, -4/+9
- TheWorm, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1Or at least read the description
- LukasSmith, on 05/26/2008, -16/+13I wonder why the fact Montana's favor McCain over Obama isn't front page? Guess that wouldn't make the liberal propaganda machine too happy. Not to hard to figure out the Democrat party machine is hard at work covering up reality on Digg.com.
- Lucasban, on 05/26/2008, -3/+4More like the majority of digg users are Democrats.
- nyx210, on 05/26/2008, -3/+2Or maybe many digg users are tired of the republicans...
- LukasSmith, on 05/26/2008, -1/+5Or maybe digg use isn't really a true representation of America.
- knumbknuts, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4here are some poll #s
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/presi ... - blaze03, on 05/26/2008, -4/+10Digg isn't a journalistic site and has no obligation of being fair nor balanced.
Digg is democratic; whatever its visitors are interested in makes the front page. The front page is a reflection of the views of Digg's membership.
I'm not surprised that a Republican doesn't understand how a democracy works though.- jameskong15, on 05/26/2008, -3/+5Well, digg just goes to show why we should never have a pure democracy for our government. If we did, the minority would have zero say on any matter the majority decided we should not talk about. Most opponents to the majority opinion would be dugg down to oblivion and we would never have a legitimate debate on the issues.
If we used pure democracy, we would very likely still have slavery since the majority of people who could vote in those days would vote for it. - azpat, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1BURN
- sonnybobiche, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3I'm not surprised that you don't understand that this country is a democratic REPUBLIC.
As in: we have elected representatives to do the voting. We choose our representatives.
Digg is, in fact, democratic. That's why it's a bag of masturbatory *****. The minority opinion gets completely silenced because the only thing that goes around here is mob rule. That's pure democracy. - pidgas, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1It is a given that Digg = Mob Rule.
If Digg = Democracy then,
Democracy = Mob Rule.
Thank God we live in a Representative Republic. Perhaps you should think twice before doling out the partisan civics lessons blaze03.
As an aside, this is the reason that everyone should vote no on all ballot initiatives.
- jameskong15, on 05/26/2008, -3/+5Well, digg just goes to show why we should never have a pure democracy for our government. If we did, the minority would have zero say on any matter the majority decided we should not talk about. Most opponents to the majority opinion would be dugg down to oblivion and we would never have a legitimate debate on the issues.
- moolaismyfriend, on 05/26/2008, -7/+5Why did Jon tester win Montana in 2006, who is a Democrat and beat a senior Senator Conrad Burns who was expected to blow Tester out of the water?
I know why, cause your comment is full of *****.
Thanks for playing you anti-American right win *****.- LukasSmith, on 05/26/2008, -7/+6You are idiot. My comment was about Mcain's favorability over Obama. I didnt mention this Tester person and I don't give a ***** about Jon Tester either. Thanks. Apparently If I tried to read your mind I would find someone who thinks because Tester is elected Montana is now a blue state? Your mind is quite weak. Democrats typically find a niche in Red states just like Republicans find a niche in Blue states. Nothing new there.
- macweirdo42, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4Well, I don't see the point - the issue here is about Hillary vs. Obama, not Obama vs. McCain.
- LukasSmith, on 05/26/2008, -7/+6You are idiot. My comment was about Mcain's favorability over Obama. I didnt mention this Tester person and I don't give a ***** about Jon Tester either. Thanks. Apparently If I tried to read your mind I would find someone who thinks because Tester is elected Montana is now a blue state? Your mind is quite weak. Democrats typically find a niche in Red states just like Republicans find a niche in Blue states. Nothing new there.
- macweirdo42, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2Montana? A red state? I'm shocked. Seriously, how would that even be newsworthy at all?
- LukasSmith, on 05/26/2008, -4/+7Democracy? I've never lived in one. Last time I checked I live in a Republic. As a Democrat I wouldn't expect you to understand that. I do understand how Democrats have nothing better to do then spam Obama propaganda day and night. That I understand. But will spam change the world? Obviously not changing Montana. Hmm thank God nobody thinks Digg.com is a true representation of America.
- blaze03, on 05/26/2008, -6/+4Great comeback dude! Who said anything about living in a democracy? Are you saying you don't know what the term "democracy" means just because the country you live in isn't one?
You're obviously on the wrong site if you're looking for conservative views on the internet. Digg is comprised largely of technologically savvy and young people, demographics which are largely liberal. Republicans are still trying to figure out what the internet is (goddamn series of tubes!), congratulations on making it this far (although it doesn't look like you've yet figured out how to use the reply button)! - LukasSmith, on 05/26/2008, -3/+5hmmm so technologically savvy and young people = democrat? ME = 24, Programmer, Republican, Voting for McCain. My father is also programmer, Republican, voting for McCain. Lol the usual complaint about the reply button. I am well aware of this issue. Could really care less.
- jarofclay, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2McCain? seriously? why?
- BabyWookie, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1There are douchebags in every demographic. It blows my mind how any one can want another four years of Bush (basically, that's what McCain's presidency will be). You must be a masochist.
- ChadN, on 05/26/2008, -1/+0Actually, you live in a democratic Republic; one which is often referred to (even by those who are elected) as a democracy. Because we, the people, get to elect our leaders (unlike the Roman republics, for example), even if we don't vote on every issue. So, it is perfectly normal and reasonable to say you live in a democracy. Can we at least agree on that? If not, I'll wait until you graduate from 5th grade and are a bit better informed.
- TsuruchiBrian, on 05/26/2008, -2/+1A republic is a representative democracy. Although this is different than what the ancient greeks had (a direct democracy), it is a type of democracy nonetheless.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democr ...
People that like to imply other people are ignorant for thinking we live in a democracy, when in fact we live in a republic, are in fact pretty ignorant themselves. For these people, it is apparently a completely foreign notion that something can be accurately described by 2 different words. It must be through some trickery of logic that a government can be both a "democracy" and a "republic".- sonnybobiche, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1You mean the ancient greeks that were completely wiped off the map by the Turks? The ones that no longer exist? Those ancient greeks?
- TsuruchiBrian, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Yes, but not just any ancient Greeks, specifically the ones depicted in the movie 300.
- LukasSmith, on 05/26/2008, -3/+4You obviously need to read this. Was written by one of your dear Anti War friends in congress. From a democrat I believe. I actually agree with his statements here.
http://byrd.senate.gov/speech-repub.htm
"So we pledge allegiance "to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic" -- not to the democracy, but to the Republic -- "for which it stands." We operate by democratic processes. Ours is a democratic society -- I have no quarrel with that -- but we do not live in a pure democracy. This is a Republic. We ought to get it straight. High rhetorical phrases referring to our form of government as a democracy constitute somewhat idle talk, and we politicians especially ought to know better."- TsuruchiBrian, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
"Democracy is a system of government by which political sovereignty is retained by the people and either exercised directly by citizens or through their elected representatives."
OR THROUGH THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES!!!
A republic IS A TYPE of democracy. Like how a Boeing 747 is a type of airplane. Imagine if I said "That's not an airplane, it's a Boeing 747. I even have proof. Look it says Boeing 747 on the side of it." This is a ridiculous form of argument and it's flaws should be obvious even to children.
Also I am not a Democrat, so describing something as "written by one of your dear Anti War friends in congress. From a democrat I believe." doesn't convince me of its accuracy. - BabyWookie, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1Empty rhetoric.
- TsuruchiBrian, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
- BabyWookie, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1Something changed Montana, considering that they have a democratic governor, senators and state senate right now. Also, McCain's 5% lead over Obama is statistically insignificant.
- blaze03, on 05/26/2008, -6/+4Great comeback dude! Who said anything about living in a democracy? Are you saying you don't know what the term "democracy" means just because the country you live in isn't one?
- Lucasban, on 05/26/2008, -3/+4More like the majority of digg users are Democrats.
- mal1964, on 05/26/2008, -3/+1It has my 1/4 of an "Black Gold" well (The Land) I own in Baker Mt.
- MetalGear7, on 05/26/2008, -15/+9I Dislike Obama on the grounds of turning diggers into Obamadiggers
- blitz718, on 05/26/2008, -4/+1I would say a large majority of us diggers are in the younger generation and he has a greater appeal towards younger people.
- PacoLugi, on 05/26/2008, -3/+0There is a reason you have to be at least 35 to be president. Most young people will not be as liberal in 10 years. Unless your on welfare, or work in academia.
- pyro12, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3Uh, actually I'd be prepared to say that's a myth. The last couple studies I've seen on the topic have either said that people's attitude's didn't change or they actually become MORE liberal as they age.
Here's one of them, probably not the best example but it's the first I could find.
-http://www.livescience.com/health/080310-liberal-s ...
- pyro12, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3Uh, actually I'd be prepared to say that's a myth. The last couple studies I've seen on the topic have either said that people's attitude's didn't change or they actually become MORE liberal as they age.
- PacoLugi, on 05/26/2008, -3/+0There is a reason you have to be at least 35 to be president. Most young people will not be as liberal in 10 years. Unless your on welfare, or work in academia.
- kreneskyp, on 05/26/2008, -0/+9heaven forbid people actually get interested in politics and concerned about our countries future enough to openly debate it. we should go back to focusing on britney spears.
- sonnybobiche, on 05/26/2008, -1/+1There is no debate happening here. The majority (Obama supporters) all listen to each other, and the minority (everyone else) is silenced.
- DCusaVietnamVet, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2That is sarcasm right??? Oh i am over 50 and a woman and a veteran fully supportive of Barack
- blitz718, on 05/26/2008, -4/+1I would say a large majority of us diggers are in the younger generation and he has a greater appeal towards younger people.
- Homerr, on 05/26/2008, -1/+17From the headline I was thinking this was an Onion article at first.
- happyhead7, on 05/26/2008, -5/+2I thought this was an article about Hannah Montana and her black fans.
- bobbknight, on 05/26/2008, -10/+1Elliot Spitzer will make a comeback, spelled with cum.
- ReyX, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2What is WRONG with you??
- LukasSmith, on 05/26/2008, -13/+4Probably Americans are sexist. Who wants a woman as their leader?
- nyx210, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5Maybe we are sexist. Or maybe we just hate the ***** tactics that she uses.
- goon5000, on 05/26/2008, -0/+0massachusetts voted for her, that's all you need to know.
- azpat, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2I don't really care what's in her pants. I've seen enough of what's in her heart and mind.
- austin006, on 05/26/2008, -0/+0and the fact that her husband was already the ***** president. what the hell
- ZenMojo, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1Americans are sexist. It's why Hillary Clinton gets a net +5% after subtracting people who won't vote for her because she's a woman once you add in those who vote for her BECAUSE she's a woman. Hillary is being propped up by a massive number of sexist woman voters this election and she's STILL losing.
- JLSN, on 05/26/2008, -7/+10What is the point of this article, other than that Obama will likely lose to McCain in Montana?
- ibone, on 05/26/2008, -12/+4Sad that Obama is unelectable. You will see this in November. Get ready for McBush.
- amightywind, on 05/26/2008, -10/+5The dailykos neglects to mention that Montana is inhabited by that other failsafe Oblabber constituency, the latte sipping liberal artists who moved in from California. Montana has scads of those. Fight fiercely Hillary!
- Hurshai, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2There aren't as many as you would think. Most of them are up around Kalispell and Flathead. That's LaLa land anyway, not Montana.
I don't know if you live here, but the folks who showed up for the Obama Rally at UM didn't seem to be those you described.
- Hurshai, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2There aren't as many as you would think. Most of them are up around Kalispell and Flathead. That's LaLa land anyway, not Montana.
- goon5000, on 05/26/2008, -7/+1needs Al Sharpton as a running mate, all bro ticket.
- n3tfury, on 05/26/2008, -4/+3huge and black. i see what you did there.
- psylemon, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1you caught that too? =)
- mal1964, on 05/26/2008, -10/+5Do you think its anything like this,
[the Johnsons load their guns and point them at Bart. Bart then points his own pistol at his head]
Bart: [speaking in a low voice] Hold it! Next man makes a move, the ***** gets it!
Olson Johnson: Hold it, men. He's not bluffing.
Dr. Sam Johnson: Listen to him, men, he's just crazy enough to do it!
Bart: [low voice] Drop it! Or I swear I'll blow this *****'s head all over this town!
Bart: [now speaking in a higher voice] Oh, lo'dy, lo'd, he's desp'it! Do what he sayyyy, do what he sayyyy...
[the Johnsons drop their guns. Bart jams the gun into his neck and drags himself through the crowd and towards the station]
Harriett Van Johnson: Isn't anybody going to help that poor man?
Dr. Sam Johnson: Hush, Harriet, that's a sure way to get him killed!
Bart: [higher voice] Oooh! He'p me, he'p me! Somebody he'p me! He'p me! He'p me! He'p me!
Bart: [lower voice] Shut up!
[Bart places his hand over his own mouth, drags himself through the door into his office]
Bart: Ooh, baby, you are so talented! And they are so DUMB!
Blazing Saddles (1974) > Memorable quotes
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071230/quotes- goon5000, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1oh boys, looky what I got here!
Hey, where da white women at??- Kas70, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1dugg for Blazing Saddle reference.
- fuzzybeard, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3You know, that's so goddamned crazy, it might just work for Obama in a pinch!
- Kas70, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1you too
- mal1964, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1I'm talking about the people of Montana if they're like the townspeople in the movie. You re not the only one who thought that i think, Some just type before they think.
- goon5000, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1oh boys, looky what I got here!
- rgranger, on 05/26/2008, -2/+9...this article = epic fail.
He uses a chart to illustrate a point, then he points out the chart must have typos.
Please digg something that isn't just a one sided rant in the future lacking a coherent thought.
Buried as spam. - Zacktopia, on 05/26/2008, -4/+8Montana - like Idaho, Kansas, and other Red States - has a small enclave of mostly elitist Democrats who look down on both their Republican neighbors and working class Democrats in other parts of the country. They have bad news coming in November, when a national coalition of people they sneer at will rise up and defeat them.
- chimx, on 05/26/2008, -1/+4As a Montanan myself, I can tell you first hand that this is false. The only thing I could possibly think of that you could be referring to is out-of-state democrats that move to Montana that are generally out of touch with Montana culture (e.g.: Californians)
- jarofclay, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2As a Montanan myself as well, I'd say the parent is right on except for the part about the rising up and defeating them part.
Montana has good blue so hard in the last 5 years...Check this we now have:
1. A speed limit
2. No smoking in public buildings
3. No drinking in your car
So much for wild west. I want my old state back. :)- chimx, on 05/26/2008, -1/+0We lost our no-number speed limit law because the supreme court found it unconstitutional I believe. I believe the drinking and driving law was finally passed because the federal government was withholding money for road construction until we passed something.
These kinds of things change, but I haven't seen a significant shift in culture in Montana. The democrats that are in charge now still seem pretty adamant about limiting federal involvement in Montana's affairs. And I certainly have never seen any Democrat elitism.
- chimx, on 05/26/2008, -1/+0We lost our no-number speed limit law because the supreme court found it unconstitutional I believe. I believe the drinking and driving law was finally passed because the federal government was withholding money for road construction until we passed something.
- jarofclay, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2As a Montanan myself as well, I'd say the parent is right on except for the part about the rising up and defeating them part.
- coyoteblue, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2I don't know, I'm sure Missoula will throw it towards Obama.
- BabyWookie, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1LOL. Keep dreaming, wingnut. People like you said that Jon Tester would be defeated by Burns too. It must have been only those "elitists" who voted for him, right?
- chimx, on 05/26/2008, -1/+4As a Montanan myself, I can tell you first hand that this is false. The only thing I could possibly think of that you could be referring to is out-of-state democrats that move to Montana that are generally out of touch with Montana culture (e.g.: Californians)
- Thefascist, on 05/26/2008, -1/+2
- HappyProgrammer, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5> Yeah, brilliant journalism here, find a state that's white and won by Obama, and write an article about Obama cross-racial appeal, and Hillary's defeat.
Don't be a retard. Obama has won several heavily white states. Very recently Oregon, by a huge margin.
Make that idiotic one white state claim again and I may have to block you to shield myself from your stupidity. - sulthernao, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4When was the last time any Democrat won the white vote, *****? That's right 1964. It isn't a ***** Obama problem, its a ***** Democratic problem. And guess what - if it means that we have to appease a bunch of racist whites in order to have appeal among white voters, good for the Democratic Party.
Want to know some white states that Obama has won? How about Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Minnesota, North Dakota, Maine, Vermont.
One more thing. These so called "democrats" in southern states aren't really democrats - they are remnants of the dixiecrats. They don't vote Democrat in the Presidential stage, period. In WV Democrats out number Republicans 2:1, and yet both Kerry and Gore lost by sizable margins. If we let these democrats vote for a nominee, no ***** they aren't going to vote for Obama. Hell they won't even vote for Clinton in the GE. - chimx, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2The Democrats are in power in Montana. Read the news more.
- BabyWookie, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1Does Montana ever go democrat? Let's see... they have a Democrat governor, both senators and state senate now. What do you think?
- HappyProgrammer, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5> Yeah, brilliant journalism here, find a state that's white and won by Obama, and write an article about Obama cross-racial appeal, and Hillary's defeat.
- Thefascist, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2
- sulthernao, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1It is definitely a typo unless there is a third gender somewhere... Think about it. If he has only 48% of the Male vote and 48% of the female vote, how does he get 51% of the total vote?
- 808ethan, on 05/26/2008, -3/+2More than anything, I think this election has demonstrated that there are dumb blacks, dumb whites, and smart blacks and smart whites.
I see the dumb groups divided, hating each other while the smart groups all seem to be together voting for Obama.
I knew dumb people made republicans richer but I didn't know they gave republicans power too. - nirav72, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2Damn..for a second after reading the headline, I thought this was an article from The Onion.
Indeed, the best title I've seen in a while. - somespecial, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2Montana's gross product was 4th lowest in the US, but so what? There's only 1 Million people there. That doesn't mean people in Montana are poor. They have the one of the lowest unemployment rates in the US... Anyway
- jarofclay, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4That's because we all have 2 jobs.
- Hurshai, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2Hahaha! I worked two jobs in Helena for a year.
- jarofclay, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4That's because we all have 2 jobs.
- beyeg, on 05/26/2008, -0/+8I went to the Obama rally at University of Montana, it was freaking packed in there, with overflow crowd sitting out in the football stadium watching on Griz-Vision, they estimated about 9,000 or so. The Hillary rally the next day, less than 2000 people. Obama will carry Montana pretty big, at least a double digit win. He has a major effort here, with offices in most major (by montana standards) cities, Clinton only has 2 or 3.
- solid12345, on 05/26/2008, -5/+4Can we just change www.digg.com to www.obama.com now because that has what it has become.
- WarfareArtist, on 05/26/2008, -2/+1For a second there I thought it was referring to Hannah and almost buried it...
God! I hate her... -
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