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huffingtonpost.com — Why do I paint such a ridiculous scenario? Well, because it stands in stark contrast to how John McCain is treated. He can seemingly say the most ridiculous and obviously false things, and yet he is never taken to task by the media or the American public for his fabrications.

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  • ScienceDoc, on 08/19/2008, -11/+41How does he get away with it? Oh yeah, the neocons own the MSM.
    • ftx437, on 08/20/2008, -25/+8WTF are you talking about.msm is so far up obamas ass!
      • publiclurker, on 08/20/2008, -3/+12Repeated lying does not change the facts. I'd have you look at who owns each media outlet, but that would imply that you were even moderately interested in the truth. Something that has a well known liberal slant.
      • InetRoadkill, on 08/20/2008, -2/+13That's not quite correct. A media watchdog group did a study comparing the coverage of Obama vs. McCain. They found that Obama was getting more coverage, but it was for things like his former pastor saying stupid ***** or his battle with Hillary rather than discussing Obama's campaign platform.
    • ftx437, on 08/20/2008, -18/+4Also Obama has had WAY more time in the msm then Mccain has..(recent trip to Europe ring a bell?)
      • publiclurker, on 08/20/2008, -0/+13What about that trip was not newsworthy?
      • hipnerd, on 08/20/2008, -0/+13McCain challenged Obama to make such a trip. And how could you not cover it? Obama was wildly popular overseas, drawing enormous crowds. Having a U.S. president that is loved around the world would not be a bad thing.
      • n00ptic, on 08/20/2008, -1/+10Yes, Obama has gotten more coverage. However, Since roughly March most of Obama's media coverage has been negative while McCain is a lot closer to 50/50 negative/positive. This was all covered extensively in a George Mason University study released last month.

        So, do you really think the media is helping Obama if they're constantly pushing negative stories? I'd say it's more likely that the coverage follows the front runner and negative stories draw more eyes, along with a close race just being inherently more interesting. Now that McCain finally appears to have narrowed Obama's lead, however, I expect the coverage will balance out a bit. Plus, McCain is no longer on the friendly terms he once was with the press, and his campaign has been downright belligerent to them in recent months. So, on a personal level, they will probably be more inclined to cover him critically.
      • nick1971, on 08/20/2008, -1/+7250K Germans took a day of work and stood in 35 degree Celsius to hear a speech in a foreign language.
        This statistic was only beaten by the almost record high audience figures for the Tageschau (evening news). It was billed in the newspapers the next day as being the greatest hope of rebuilding a once strong relationship with a once proud country.
        I think that this can be counted as news.
    • czarr, on 08/20/2008, -1/+9They try to air McCain but the most interesting thing he was doing was visiting a Supermarket.
    • KnowYourSelfs, on 08/20/2008, -9/+0
    • InetRoadkill, on 08/20/2008, -0/+10Damn liberal media.... oh wait.

      One reason is that the MSM is owned by big business which typically supports the GOP. Another reason is that the MSM are cowards. They don't want to face a ***** storm of controversy by challenging McSame's lies and being labeled as discriminatory against senior citizens or as being unpatriotic for attacking a war hero.

      If you want news, stay away from MSM outlets in the US unless you enjoy having smoke blown up your ass.
    • flink405, on 08/20/2008, -3/+1First rule of politics: The party that starts looking for implausible and unprovable conspiracy theories about the opposition candidate is in trouble.

      Tip to Democrats as Celebrity Obama goes stale and out of fashion - Hillary Clinton can still be the Democratic Presidential nominee. Voter her in.
  • TheRhinoceros, on 08/19/2008, -6/+56His tactics are underhanded.

    His campaign is being run by the same neocons that brought Dubya to power.

    He lies the way he does because it is what the people want to hear. They don't want the truth, they want "America's best days are ahead of us" not, "America's best days might be ahead of us, long term, but, because of the damage done by the Bush Administration, the next few years are going to hurt." Which is much closer to reality.

    They don't want to hear that drilling won't help, so when McCain says it will help, they jump on the bandwagon.

    We the people have an illness, and it is media created. And only with the help of the media can it be contained. But they don't want to help. They want to chase headlines, which means if a story(like McCain and offshore drilling) heads in one direction, they will follow it, even if it is a red herring, while the real story(offshore drilling won't help) gets away from them.

    that's my two cents
    • aussiejan, on 08/19/2008, -2/+19Two cents well spent.
    • SyzygyMan, on 08/20/2008, -2/+11But freedom costs a buck o' five :)
    • poprocksandsoda, on 08/20/2008, -6/+1Neocons ... God that word is hilarious. You guys really need to limit your activism to pro-pot rallies and PTA meetings.
      • SpinningHead, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3Um....but they're the ones who use the term. Look up Irving Kristol....Bill Kristol's dad.
      • buckrogers1965, on 08/20/2008, -1/+1It is what they call themselves. Damn, you are ignorant.
      • TheRhinoceros, on 08/20/2008, -1/+3poprocks, I have a question. what is hilarious about the word neocon? perhaps a thought or two about neoconservatism.

        "Neoconservatism... originated in the 1970s as a movement of anti-Soviet liberals and social democrats in the tradition of Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Humphrey and Henry ('Scoop') Jackson, many of whom preferred to call themselves 'paleoliberals.' [After the end of the Cold War]... many 'paleoliberals' drifted back to the Democratic center... Today's neocons are a shrunken remnant of the original broad neocon coalition. Nevertheless, the origins of their ideology on the left are still apparent. The fact that most of the younger neocons were never on the left is irrelevant; they are the intellectual (and, in the case of William Kristol and John Podhoretz, the literal) heirs of older ex-leftists.

        For the neoconservatives, religion is an instrument of promoting morality. Religion becomes what Plato called a noble lie. It is a myth which is told to the majority of the society by the philosophical elite in order to ensure social order... In being a kind of secretive elitist approach, Straussianism does resemble Marxism. These ex-Marxists, or in some cases ex-liberal Straussians, could see themselves as a kind of Leninist group, you know, who have this covert vision which they want to use to effect change in history, while concealing parts of it from people incapable of understanding it."

        Both are quotes from Michael Lind

        Anything else you find funny?
    • flink405, on 08/20/2008, -3/+1You are now seeing that Obama is losing choice for Democrats, right?
      That is why all the whining here.

      Call up your local Democrat superdelegate and tell him or her to vote for Hillary Clinton at the Democratic convention. Hillary can be the one.
  • TCP7, on 08/20/2008, -7/+49See: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/19/11438/1343 ...

    "The McCain team has constructed a persona that can attack at will, but can never be attacked. They have used McCain's POW history to create a firewall to shield him from all criticism, and as a universal qualifier for all things that pertain to foreign policy or to the military.

    Here are some examples:
    - Any question of McCain's integrity is instantly an insult to all military personnel and all veterans who have ever served.
    - Any opposition to McCain's ideas must be prefaced with a disclaimer honoring his military service.
    - Any McCain misstep or gaffe is instantly forgiven because he was once a Prisoner of War, and must be honored as such.
    - John McCain's war hero status overrides the Ten Commandments, because according to Sean Hannity, his adultery is erased by the fact that he was imprisoned in Vietnam.

    The Legend of John McCain(TM) has been perpetuated by the Republican party and the Corporate Media to crush all dissent and create a teflon candidate that is beyond reproach.

    I have to say it is a masterstroke, because it allows McCain to create his own narrative to any group he chooses. He picked up the Solzhenitsyn story, which is a common Christian fable, and made it his own. He knew that it couldn't really be disproven, and that The Legend of John McCain(TM) would shield the story from further scrutiny. His support of the continued occupation of Iraq is an economic nigh(TM)are, costing taxpayers over $12 Billion a month, but who can question the military knowledge and expertise of The Legend of John McCain(TM)? His foreign policy is tainted by the lobbyists he employs, and his tough guy diplomacy has been a proven failure over the last eight years of the Bush Administration, but The Legend of John McCain(TM) is more American than you are and he just knows how to deal with those pesky Commies…"
    • TheRhinoceros, on 08/20/2008, -1/+20I will hit him despite his status as war hero. It does not make him a great man. Just a victim of the VC. It does not excuse his pandering. It does not excuse his *****, like the fake cross in the dirt story.

      He lessens every Vietnam vet every time he states his status as a P.O.W. There were Thousands of P.O.W's, and yet he's the only one who exploits it for political gain, weak minded fool that he is. That is a mistake he will pay for politically, both short and long term.

      He can't be attacked? That crap don't fly. His status as a P.O.W. means nothing since he's decided to exploit it.

      That doesn't mean I think Obama is wonderful or anything like that. He's not. He's better than McCain, but it would be difficult to NOT be better than McCain. I HATE the fact that this goofball McCain thinks he can get away with exploiting his captivity. Just because the press let's it go doesn't mean we should.

      The strength of Obama's campaign was created with a groundswell of support from the working class and middle class that McCain, Bush and their cronies have continually exploited. That same groundswell will crush this weak attempt at a veneer of invulnerability into dust.

      there's two more cents.
      • barbiesnow, on 08/20/2008, -2/+2And the Cover-up of the USS Forrestal...changed into a hero worship of McCain...His daddy covered up the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1967 and two weeks later Johnny hot-dogs on the USS Forrestal and starts a huge fire..but the story is somehow covered up and 3 months later he is captured...

        Google USS Forrestal...
      • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 08/20/2008, -1/+3The Forrestal fire was caused by a electrical power surge that launched a Zuni rocket and hit an external fuel tank. The idea that McCain had anything to do with an incident that killed 134 sailors is the most disgusting of false attacks. Please go ***** off and die.
      • jayzDigga, on 08/20/2008, -1/+2I see, in a digg of an article full of inaccuracies, it is best to put a link to another site that is full of inaccuracies to back up the original lies.

        Every day, the kool-aid is getting sweeter.
      • hafbaked, on 08/20/2008, -0/+0for everyone who speaks of kool-aid, please explain why McCain is a better choice for America, without mentioning anything about Obama. I'm curious.
      • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1WAT?

        Better than what?
    • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 08/20/2008, -3/+1The Solzhenitsyn story wasn't even from Solzhenitsyn.
    • aduzik, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1Where's the button to digg this up a couple hundred times?
  • Lynx55, on 08/20/2008, -3/+17Why indeed? Probably a variety of reasons, but whichever, it sure pisses me off! I think that is one reason diggers for Obama are so eager to be heard here.
  • TheRhinoceros, on 08/20/2008, -9/+6Im from New York City, they just bumped up the price of freedom to an arm and an *****. Luckily we all have a spare *****. His name is John McCain.

    Joke of the Day folks! Spread it around!

    Later!
  • DD2CC2U, on 08/20/2008, -4/+20It is very simple. No one stops McCain and says that is wrong and here is why it is wrong and then asks the followup question. The MSM all act like McCain is their boss and if they say the wrong thing they will be fired.
  • Consorsha, on 08/20/2008, -2/+9Why are we still asking this question?

    Manufacturing Consent was made in 1992.
  • Airforcefalco, on 08/20/2008, -2/+9If this surprises you then you are part of the problem.
  • Me314, on 08/20/2008, -3/+12You know, the scariest part about this whole debacle of a campaign by McCain is that, according to the latest polls, he is now WINNING!! WTF???

    I think arguably, that McCain would be WORSE than our current president GWB. Yet he is winning, without a comprehensive healthcare plan, a lame energy plan (drill, drill, drill), and outside of vouchers, vouchers, vouchers, does he even have an education platform? The man is talking dangerously to the Russians, making idle threats that we cannot back up. Yet he is winning? Where is the media? Why are they not pressing this man for answers to his many, many blunders, misquotes, and idiocy?? Is this bizarro world?
    • Airforcefalco, on 08/20/2008, -2/+8The polls said Giuliani and Clinton were going to win the nomination.
      • poprocksandsoda, on 08/20/2008, -4/+2I really hope that Obama selects Clinton so McCain can win by a landslide. My concern as a conservative is that he'll select Kerry, since I may then seriously consider voting Democrat. To be honest, had it been Kerry/Obama in 2008 I wouldn't have thought twice about voting Democrat. I think Obama isn't experienced enough to lead this nation. In 2004 I couldn't vote against GW since he protected our nation as he said he would, and to top it off I just didn't like John Edwards. Kerry was a solid candidate though.
      • Airforcefalco, on 08/20/2008, -1/+2I can't, in good concious, vote for any of those goons.
    • jnava121, on 08/20/2008, -8/+5
      Me314 , my tires are a little low do you have a tire pressure gauge? im thinking that might have a butterfly effect and magically create and huge supply/deman tear in the Global Oil Market thus causing my flux capicator to utilize bananna peels as it's main source of energy and the mitochlorians in my blood will let me harness kinetic energy so we can stop using nuclear power .
    • licnyc, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/08-us-pres-ge-mvo ...

      aggregated poll data.
    • vexingmodstwo, on 08/20/2008, -3/+4TASTE IT.
    • scamper22, on 08/20/2008, -6/+3man is it scary that I actually like the platform you just described.

      without a comprehensive healthcare plan
      -GOOD. The only thing I want done to healthcare is to allow nurse practitioners greater freedom and the ability to buy drugs from anywhere. Not huge changes... but something we could convince mccain of.

      a lame energy plan (drill, drill, drill)
      -GOOD. I like lame energy plans. The private sector seems to be handling it quite well. Even that texas wind nutjob (pickens?) seems to be in on it. Google and other private companies are heavily investing in R&d. The least thing I want is for government to be wasting my money on hair brained energy plans like ethanol.

      and outside of vouchers, vouchers, vouchers, does he even have an education platform?
      -GOOD. Has anything helped education in the past 30 years? Nope. And we've tried everything. Maybe its about time we tried vouchers and put the power back in the hands of students/parents/teachers/principals... instead of big bureaucracy.


      Wowzers. You made McCain sound good. Congratulations.
    • FatherVic, on 08/20/2008, -3/+1Right now, I will take any plan over "Hope" and "Change".
      But I choose to vote "None of the above". Cause they both suck hardcore.
  • litter1020, on 08/20/2008, -6/+8After the last 8 years of imperialism, why would anyone dispute the record of the "A Real American?" And George Bush is a "real cowboy!" He's a liar in a sea of liars. It takes time for the truth to appear and as soon as Obama gets off a campaign that is directed at thinkers and not average American trying to get by, the more off the point he gets. The POINT is that he has to tie McCain as an extension of Bush and by proxie hurts nearly everyone who had voted in Bush and all those who voted against him. Tie him as one of the major proponents of the failed invasion and occupation of Iraq for starters, the economy of Phil Graham and the Reps, and throw in what used to be a Justice Department and following the rule of law!! And, STOP PRAISING MCCAIN"S PATRIOTISM!!! He is no longer a Patriot and hasn't been since the Keating Five. And call him on ALL the decisions he has supported in the Senate that negatively affect 98% of the population of America. In the words of Hall and Oates, "What have you done for me lately?" And even more important, what is he capable of doing in the future? It all ready hurts. Haven't we had enough??
    • nick1971, on 08/20/2008, -0/+4I think one should be very careful in using the word patriot as a positive adjective when it is the name of a set of legislation which has rolled back civil liberties to a level not seen since the 30's in a G8 country

      For a comparison of the German legislation in the 30's and the patriot acts I offer you this link

      http://janschejbal.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/vergle ...
      in German and a translation in English here

      http://janschejbal.wordpress.com/2006/07/19/englis ...

      Yes I know that there are errors in the english but the content is great. If you want to moan about grammar etc please comment in German.
    • SuperVepr308, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2"In the words of Hall and Oates" Man, what do you say to that?
  • david76, on 08/20/2008, -5/+12The reason is very simple. If you point out the errors, the McCain camp doesn't invite you back. This isn't rocket science people, it's revenge.

    So, the MSM sucks it up, lets it slide and keeps their access to the campaign.
    • pintomp3, on 08/20/2008, -1/+5McCain Campaign Restricts Press Access
      http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/07/0 ...

      McCain senior aide Mark Salter quipped this morning that "only the good reporters" would get to sit in the specially-configured section for interviews. "You'll have to earn it," he said.
      http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/3 ...

    • InetRoadkill, on 08/20/2008, -2/+4The worse thing is that the MSM could turn the table on that really quick. Say for example McSame decided to boot an ABC reporter because he had the gall to question a McCain lie. ABC could simply say, "Fine, we won't give you any coverage." As the saying goes, the worst publicity is no publicity... especially if you're running for office.
  • IslandDog, on 08/20/2008, -18/+8This is so hilarious. When has the media questioned the Obamessiah about his past and the lies he tells? Another stupid article from the huffiington and the people who believe it.
    • oinyo, on 08/20/2008, -2/+5Shut up Nazi. If you want to fight freedom so much get the hell out of my country
      • IslandDog, on 08/20/2008, -5/+5Hahaha. Typical response from a Obama cultist. Ask the media to question Obama!
      • ftx437, on 08/20/2008, -3/+4oinyo
        "Blinded by the light"
      • stevetrojanman, on 08/20/2008, -2/+2Umm...so yeah...that was a rational response...

        One of you more moderate libs needs to buy a muzzle for oinyo...he's scaring people.
  • eh123, on 08/20/2008, -14/+7How much more HuffPo spam and comments from their sock puppets must we tolerate? buried. AGAIN.
    • diggapleeeze, on 08/20/2008, -5/+7Doesn't surprise me that the truth hurts for you.
      • vexingmodstwo, on 08/20/2008, -2/+3Define "truth" in relation to this article.
      • sifuchar, on 08/20/2008, -2/+2Doesn't surprise me that the truth escapes you, if you think the HuffPo stories have merit.
      • AssJuice, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1As well as it will in November for the Dems... Welcome to 4 more years of GOP rule and we can thank the pussy ass Democrats for that.
      • eh123, on 08/21/2008, -0/+1When an article from HuffPo contains any truth, you be sure to let me know.
  • TJATL, on 08/20/2008, -12/+9As much as you think the MSM doesn't call shenanigans on McCain, they do it less for Obama. Prime example Huffington Post. But that's not MSM, it is to Digg.
    • Dumbledorito, on 08/20/2008, -2/+2Is it Obama's fault that he doesn't spout complete contradictions to previous statements like McCain? Or that he doesn't appear to have some kind of Bizarro-like tic that makes him utter things that are the opposite of reality?

      Perhaps the media is just used to such things after eight years of George W. Bush mangling his statements and appearing to live in a world all his own, and is extending the same "he doesn't know any better" courtesy to yet another Republican.
  • pintomp3, on 08/20/2008, -5/+6they are afraid to be called anti-american. the same reason they were such cheerleaders for the iraq war. McCarthyism in full effect. if you call him on his lies, you are being unfair to a war-hero. if you talk about his affair or keating five, you are slandering a war-hero. it would be downright mean if you mention that his bluster towards russia is not only counter-productive, but biased because he has lobbyists for georgia on his campaign. if you don't let him keep repeating the lie that "the surge is working", you want america to lose.
    • stevetrojanman, on 08/20/2008, -3/+2Haha...

      but you can't challenge Obama or you're a Nazi and/or a racist...
      • davewashere, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2I see lots of criticism of Obama, and rarely do I see it countered with the race card. If anything, I think they're letting a lot of things slip by because they don't want Obama to be seen as "the black candidate". Some of the criticism has been racist. For instance, some people refuse to just use "Barack Obama" as he prefers and insist on using "B. Hussein Obama". We all know that's his middle name, but why does it need to be pointed out over and over again? They do it because it's a name that many people associate with Arabs and (thanks to Saddam) evil. Highlighting that middle name over and over again is bigoted. They want people to judge a man by his name and his family background rather than his character or policies.
  • RegalBegal, on 08/20/2008, -10/+3It's cause he's a reptilian and like, all those dudes are reptilians.... oh and the huffingtonpost is like the last bastion of honest to goodness fair and balanced news, keep it up kids!
  • ftx437, on 08/20/2008, -11/+6Why don't they also look at all the lies that obama tells...

    To question Obama or to Speak against obama is equal to being a racist...
    Obama has set him self up more to not have anyone question him then mccain has.
    • mikesoba, on 08/20/2008, -4/+10And McCain is untouchable because he became a war hero by crashing his plane and sitting out the war as a prisoner. So they're even on that point. Time to move on.
  • AgainstObama, on 08/20/2008, -14/+12Keep drinking the Obama kool-aid!
    • zeusthemoose, on 08/20/2008, -5/+4When this country is in a bath of flames, I hope you look back and see how wrong you were.
  • pintomp3, on 08/20/2008, -2/+3teflon john.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ly56Feejo
  • TiCL, on 08/20/2008, -16/+2
    • moor6998, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3Did you miss the other 25 posts? WTF r u talking about!
  • jnava121, on 08/20/2008, -10/+5Must be a conspiracy that McCain is winning! funny how this publication constantly insults his intelligence along with the millions of conservatives in the country-


    and now...
    neo con ultra right wing consipiracy - emperor palpatine jedi mind tricks! only way McCain can win !!! on the irony ..

    Go make up some more emotional reasons why mcCain equals bad ! I love to hear them. The people who are old enough to vote and can read, will make up their minds by negotiating the issues themselves and then determining the correct person to vote for.
  • Mr.Gone, on 08/20/2008, -3/+2Wha wan t kno i ho the expec t buil credibl platfor fo a actua presidentia campaig. S fa it' lik he' stil strugglin t wi th nominatio.
  • timmy6591, on 08/20/2008, -6/+5Because he's a million ***** years old and old people get away with all kinds of crap. My grandfather used to goose the young women working in Wal*Mart - and would get away with it because he's just a "cute old man." Go ahead... elect McCain America. I dare you... let's see how you like an old man's hand digging up YOUR ass for the next 4 years.
  • mikesoba, on 08/20/2008, -2/+6Holy smokes, Spears and Hilton are virgins?!?!
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 08/20/2008, -2/+9Propagandist: Why Are People Not Believing Our Propaganda?
  • richirwin, on 08/20/2008, -5/+10To quote John McCain to Cindy McCain - *****.
  • TheMayor, on 08/20/2008, -10/+13More huffington post garbage on Digg, how surprising.

    No wonder McCain is winning, you obamabots sound like a bunch of clueless zombies.

    Huffington post--please.
    • kolyana, on 08/20/2008, -7/+6Says the lemming who obviously feels that the country is on the right track and we need 8 more years of the crap we've just gone through.

      Go jump off a cliff.
      • stevetrojanman, on 08/20/2008, -2/+4Evidence that he is a lemming?

        I'll give you 30 minutes...otherwise...buried.
      • TheSavant, on 08/20/2008, -3/+3Mass lemming suicide is a myth perpetuated by the Disney corporation. Lemmings can swim and do not jump off cliffs. Please refrain from defaming lemmings by spreading this lie and comparing them to some of the most mindless creatures on this planet.
      • stevetrojanman, on 08/20/2008, -3/+1Hey Savant...

        You must have misunderstood...he was calling republicans lemmings, not Obamaniacs
  • jdenzer, on 08/20/2008, -0/+7"Americans would boycott Spears's next recording and whatever it is Hilton does to make money."
    No they wouldn't, the public doesn't care if they lie or not.
    Look at R.Kelly, Ashlee Simpson on SNL, Martha Stewart, etc.
    Unless they are on trial for murder, the public doesn't care.
  • iamthearm, on 08/20/2008, -8/+14A waaaayyy better questions is: "Why does the media ignore Obama's shortcomings?"
    • scamper22, on 08/20/2008, -5/+4The massiah's only shortcoming is that he tries too hard.
  • Engine24, on 08/20/2008, -6/+2McCain is I don't know what to say but just rubbish!
  • SaperKain, on 08/20/2008, -6/+6It’s simple. John McCain & his rich buddies from republican party already bought off most of the mainstream media thus assuring positive coverage throughout.
  • vexingmodstwo, on 08/20/2008, -8/+10Is anyone else getting a kick out of watching the far left moonbats lose their minds? I'm loving this.
    • stevetrojanman, on 08/20/2008, -1/+6The funny thing is watching their explanations...

      Either we're all racists, we're all paid, we're all sheep...the list goes on...

      They can't possibly fathom that every single person doesn't see things as "clearly" as they do.

      Yep, the moderates and conservatives are definitely the loons here...
  • dan222555, on 08/20/2008, -5/+8Why do the people at the Huffington Post even bother expressing their opinions anymore? We know where they stand---McCain sucks, Obama is God...end of story.
  • Noods, on 08/20/2008, -4/+5Because mainstream media is worthless.

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/20/ ...
  • AYork, on 08/20/2008, -4/+4To start, if the election were held today, I'd vote Obama. I think his policies and ideas are, on the whole, much better than McCain's. But that said, I just can't let some of these statements stand. Logic has been thrown out the window.

    1) Energy policy: No real energy plan could affect anything for ten years, minimum. We're going to have to build a lot of stuff no matter what plan is put in place, and that will take time. Anything this big will take at least a decade to be seriously impacted, regardless. Also, the article says drilling will not significantly affect gas prices. McCain says it will give us energy independence. Those two claims are not mutually exclusive. Gas could cost more than it does now, and McCain's goal of energy independence could still be valid.

    2) The Veteran's bill : One statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense "The only change made to Webb's bill was a transferability provision... and it was one that Webb said had been in the bill for six years". How can it be both a change and something that had been there for six years? Also, McCain says "this bill will better help our troops." Well, funding troops in combat will help them. Troops with no armor is bad, but so is giving them more money? You can't have it both ways. We shouldn't be over there at all, but we shouldn't hold back support (men, money, and material) for the troops that are there now. That's just another way to sacrifice troops on the altar of politics.

    3) Flip-flops: You can't really compare Obama to McCain here. I agree that McCain has a lot more flip flops than Obama, but then again, he's been in the Senate for 26 (1982-2008) years vs Obama's 3 (2005-2008). It's like saying there's more good music made in the 1960's and 1970's than there is "today." True, but not really fair.

    Again, McCain is not someone I want as President. I think he will be, at BEST, marginally better than Bush. But if you're going to hit him, please use good logic.
    • vexingmodstwo, on 08/20/2008, -3/+2I applaud you for being fair-minded. But I need to ask you which Obama policies you think are better... because from my perspective, I don't see any. I see wealth redistribution, increased government spending, and tax policies that will put the brakes on an already weak economy.

      Where's the good stuff?
      • AYork, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2Energy policy: Although I do like McCain's nuke power stance (will build 30(?) reactors in the next 20(?) years vs "meh" from Obama), Obama's overall plan is more long term . McCain focuses on clean coal, offshore drilling, that kind of thing. Sticking with primarily fossil fuels, just doing it better and smarter. This is fine for the short term, but not so good for the long term. Obama focuses more on renewable power (wind, solar, etc), which is not as good for the short term, but MUCH better for the long term. And the long term is more important. But don't see a false dichotomy here; both have planks on both aspects; I'm just talking about where the focus is.

        Iraq : Obama got a LOT of respect from me when he changed his stance after coming back from Iraq. It went from "Out of there ASAP" to "Well....we'll have to see how it goes as we go." It shows he responds to new information. I like that. He is dedicated to getting us out (and we shouldn't be there; it's a civil war now and our presence will only make things worse), but he's being a realist about it. I like dedicated realists.

        Economy : ... I don't think either one has said or planned anything real or effective regarding the economy, so that's a wash.

        "War on Terror": McCain supports Bush's policies too highly. I see the current policies as sacrificing freedom for security, and that is counter to what I think this nation stands for. Obama is wishy washy on it, but at least he doesn't loudly support it. It leaves the door open for the possibility that some of this stuff might go away. McCain doesn't offer such a chance.

        GOP : I am pissed off at the GOP. I know it's petty, but I've been a loyal Republican since I did a grammar school project during Reagan's 1984 campaign; it was my first real exposure to politics. But Bush really pissed me off. I'm a Conservative. The GOP bills itself as Conservative, and that's why I've always supported them. But the last 8 years have shown that they are now anything but. Clinton was more Conservative than Bush (small govt size, fewer intrusions into personal and commercial life, reduced budget). I have no faith that McCain will reverse any of the anti-Conservative policies of Bush (Patriot act, DHS, Prescription drug bill, massive increase in govt spending and size). Obama.....maybe. I'll go with the ""maybe" over the "no freakin' way" any day.
      • vexingmodstwo, on 08/20/2008, -1/+2Okay... fair enough.

        I urge you to look into the economic policies. Obama's tax scheme is going to put the brakes on the economy. As a conservative, you'll definitely see it if you want to.
      • AYork, on 08/20/2008, -0/+0I've looked at them before (granted it's been a few months) and most of his tax stuff isn't all that radical. He's jacking up Social Security, which is pointless. It's throwing good money after bad, but it's not exactly going to wreck the economy.

        Closest I see is the capital gains stuff. He's increasing established max capital gains, but he plans to eliminate or reduce it for new investments, including farmland and startup companies. I can see how people could balk at the big max gains increase, but that helps pay for the cut for the newbies. Kind of balances out in the end; hurts established companies some while helping new ones. I like this; it makes it easier for individuals to start new things up; very conservative.

        What, specifically, do you think are problems with his policies?
    • vexingmodstwo, on 08/20/2008, -3/+1Still waiting... It doesn't have to be the guy above... I'm asking anyone who supports Obama to explain it.
  • PennFarmer, on 08/20/2008, -1/+9I would just like to point out that everyone would actually be more likely to laugh at Britney and Paris rather than boycott them.

    The author also seems to be deliberately twisting definitions when he compares "path to energy independence" with no oil for a decade and lower prices. Path == destination. Everyone knows that it will take ten years. The only question is when are we going to start the clock? If we start now, it will be in ten years. If we wait 2 or 3 more years while we complain that it will take 10 years, it will be 12 or 13 years from now. Had we started 10 years ago, we would be done by now. The time span isn't getting shorter. Focusing on that is a shell game for simply not wanting to do it, which is what the Dems actually think.

    Also, energy independence == lower prices. It means that we will produce our own energy, a laudable goal.

    I don't like McCain, but let's at least be intelligent in our attacks.
  • poprocksandsoda, on 08/20/2008, -3/+9Huffington/Left Blogs of America ... as a conservative undecided (but now decided) I want to thank you for helping give McCain a 5 point advantage:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUKN1 ...

    That's a 20 point swing in just a couple of months. I think McCain could have taken a vacation during the past couple of months and leaped in the polls because you are doing all the work to turn voters towards him.

    You can attribute the McCain lead to all the negative, biased and outright offensive "reporting" that people like yourself continue to perpetuate. Perhaps attacking the character of a war hero isn't the best approach to turning voters onto the message of the Left. I was very, very close to voting for Obama but now I associate voting with him with siding idealogically with entities like yourselves.

    Some solid advice for 2012: instead of demeaning the political process with rhetoric, why not attempt to create a positive open discussion about the issues while being respectful to candidates you don't agree with?
    • PennFarmer, on 08/20/2008, -2/+3I would suggest you check out worldnetdaily.com and see what Farah has to say about voting for McCain. Farah is conservative and believes that McCain is not. Needless to say, he does not support Obama either. Consider third party if you really are conservative. If you always choose the lesser of two evils, evil is what you will always have to decide between.
      • poprocksandsoda, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2I will in fact check worldnetdaily.com out. I appreciate your intelligent and informative input.
  • Springdaddy, on 08/20/2008, -2/+7Uh oh ... McCain is up by 5 points!
  • Horace, on 08/20/2008, -2/+4While McCain was being held captive and tortured as a POW, Barack Obama was studying in a madrasah in Indonesia.
    • PennFarmer, on 08/20/2008, -1/+2This is true yet irrelevant. Obama was a child at the time and had little to no control over where he was. Compare what he has done with his life after he turned 18 to McCain's of the same period if you wish to make an actual comparison. This sort of comparison is as bad as most of the stuff thinkprogress and Huffpost put out. It's nothing but fear mongering.

      BTW - Madrassa means "school" in Arabic. It is a generic term for a place of learning below the college level (they have a different word for university). Only in the West is it always used as a term meaning "extremist indoctrination camp for young children to learn to blow themselves up and kill non-Muslims".
  • tst1212, on 08/20/2008, -3/+3Anyone want to adopt a poor African kid? Maybe Cindy McCain will adopt this poor kid.

    http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_s_lost_bro ...
  • zacharytelschow, on 08/20/2008, -1/+4Any article that uses blatantly false positions as its leaping off point will lead to nowhere. The only reason it might take a decade to bring domestic crude to market is because of liberals making it so through bureaucracy.
  • Jaguwar, on 08/20/2008, -2/+3 Blah, blah, F-word blah blah moveon.org talking point. blah blah George Bush is Hitler blah blah shredding the constitution blah blah Guantanamo fascists. Blah blah something I heard on the Daily Show blah blah F-word blah blah Huffington Post talking point, blah blah torture fascists Blah blah Fox news blah blah.

    Blah blah something my college professor with the pony tail once said blah blah Dick Cheney blah blah Abu Ghraib blah blah lied about Iraq blah blah. When will America wake up blah blah neo-cons blah blah Karl Rove blah blah NSA blah blah neo-con blah blah. fascists racist homophobic blah blah.

    Whewwww, I am drained, speaking truth to power is so exhausting, I think I will listen to the new Coldplay on my iPod, have a latte and edit my Facebook page.
  • ayeroxor, on 08/20/2008, -2/+2"Mitchell Bard: Why Does the Media Allow McCain to ignore fac"

    Nice job, lazy ***** submitter.
  • flink405, on 08/20/2008, -3/+2Attention Democrats:
    Obama is failing fast. He's the wrong choice.
    Call up your local Democrat Superdelegate and tell him or her to vote for Hillary Clinton at the Democratic convention. Hillary can be the the Democratic nominee.
    It is not too late.
    Do it today.

    Watch this video:
    Obama’s Invesco sell-out an “underground fundraiser”
    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/20/video-obamas ...
  • RidgeRunner5, on 08/20/2008, -2/+3I think the correct answer is because they are trying to show they are unbiased after chopping the head off of anybody who dare question the legitemacy of the great ObaMessiah!!
  • dejanigma, on 08/20/2008, -3/+2Preaching to the choir...
  • SpookyPig, on 08/20/2008, -2/+1Jaguwar, Ayeroxor, Flink, Ridge, and Dejanigma show the stereotype of the McCain supporter who'll just deflect and insult instead of thinking about things.
    Kind of like McCain's entire campaign.
  • AssJuice, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1lol, go cry some more and keep posting ***** from huffingtonpost.com it really helps your cause.
  • Ricemanstm, on 08/21/2008, -0/+1Oh brother. Which is it? 'Cause y'all can't have it both ways. Is the left wing media (with the exception of FNC- thank God!) stomping for Faux-bama or on him? He hasn't exactly been put to task by the media as of late, in fact they've been ignoring a lot of his background. How about the fact that the lawyer (read fundraiser) that has been trying to help out that snake Edwards (...b..b..bb..but my wife's cancer was in remission!...) was also a one of HIS fundraisers. Go cry somewhere else...
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