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McCain Plagiarized Retired Admiral in Foreign Policy Speech
thinkprogress.org — Yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) gave a foreign policy speech to the Los Angeles World Affairs Council. The words he used were not McCain ’s own. They were in fact taken largely from a 1996 speech by ret. Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer.
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- rgodfrey, on 03/28/2008, -32/+16I'll give someone a dollar if this makes it into the mainstream press.
- RepubOperative, on 03/28/2008, -35/+12Obama then and now
Old Barack:
Don’t tell me words don’t matter.
‘I have a dream.’ Just words?
‘We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal.’ Just words?
‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself.’ Just words? Just speeches?
New Barack:
'God damn America.' Just words.
'US government created Aids, supplied drugs to our community.' Just words.
'US of KKKA.' Just words.
'What we are doing is the same thing al-Qaeda is doing.' Just words.
'Until now, I was never proud of my country.' Just words from my wife.
As George Burns said of acting, “Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.” Looks like Obama has a chance the fraud!- okayokayokay, on 03/28/2008, -10/+13Can't criticize Obama's words, so you focus on everyone's but his. Nice. None of the words under New Barack are HIS WORDS. They are other people's words. I give you points for cleverly constructed smear, with the just words thing... then you loose them all for sleaze.
- masterm1nd, on 03/28/2008, -5/+599% of communication isn't by words. Actions.
- trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -5/+1Well if you love this country you need to accept that he has a right to not only hate whoever he chooses but also to spout that hate from the mountain tops. I've read plenty of your gung ho George Bush is god posts and realized a while ago you don't think but if you want to live in this nation and be afforded it's protections you must honor those rights when others choose to exercise them. There's an old saying in this country "I may not agree with what you say but I shall defend until the death your right to say it." Seriously though don't attempt to use one man's words to smear another. It's not even logical hun.
- masterm1nd, on 03/28/2008, -5/+599% of communication isn't by words. Actions.
- DanOnTheMoon, on 03/28/2008, -13/+7Old Barack: Spam.
New Barack: Still spam.- DanOnTheMoon, on 03/28/2008, -5/+10Oh yeah, and there is no 'new McCain', he's old as balls. Cryptkeeper in '08?
- trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -4/+4Nah, old age often goes along with being closed minded and completely set in your ways. The younger crowd is usually a bit more capable of change. It should be obvious enough just listening to that idiot that he's a bullheaded moron who will always assume he is right about any issue. That's a dangerous man to have in power, we've had one now for 8 years and look what's happened!
- TimDigg, on 03/28/2008, -2/+2we certainly don't need another stubborn president in office
off topic....
just look at Motorola...president is so old, he doesn't even know how to use a computer
- DanOnTheMoon, on 03/28/2008, -5/+10Oh yeah, and there is no 'new McCain', he's old as balls. Cryptkeeper in '08?
- dOOBiEx213, on 03/28/2008, -9/+6Those "words" are 100% accurate, if you can't see that please go back to Imagination Land...nubcake.
- chromerium, on 03/28/2008, -5/+6Dude, every single time you post, you make Barack's point for him.
- okayokayokay, on 03/28/2008, -10/+13Can't criticize Obama's words, so you focus on everyone's but his. Nice. None of the words under New Barack are HIS WORDS. They are other people's words. I give you points for cleverly constructed smear, with the just words thing... then you loose them all for sleaze.
- Sogui, on 03/28/2008, -10/+41Do you know how many front page stories from Thinkprogress, DailyKos, HuffingtonPost, CrooksandLiars, etc... have made the front page only to be marked as blatantly inaccurate? Believe it or not but the mainstream does have SOME standards, I can't remember the last time I saw a cnn.com story get retracted... but these liberal blogs seems to do it on a weekly basis.
- tatltat, on 03/28/2008, -9/+13This post should be on Digg's front page.
- Sogui, on 03/28/2008, -3/+6Also as an additional clarification (not like it matter much this deep in a comment tree), I'm not attacking liberals in general... It's just that on Digg we are often subjected to submissions with liberal blogs as the source, I don't even read conservative blogs, and they never make it to Digg... so that why I focused my criticism on the liberal blogs above.
- Pillage, on 03/28/2008, -2/+6I was under the impression that Kieth Olberman's teleprompter has a direct feed to Media Matters.
- trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2Yeah those CNN stories don't get retracted because you don't have a bunch of people who can click a button and make the story go away. Don't kid yourself, the main stream media ***** up plenty.
- onetimer, on 03/28/2008, -4/+28Maybe because it's wholly inaccurate?
- ssn697, on 03/28/2008, -2/+12I will give a dollar if rgodfrey comes back and apologizes. Not a "but let me tell you" apology. Just a straight "wow was I wrong" apology...
- Mier, on 03/28/2008, -2/+6never happen...liberals are never wrong..they're just not always right.
- xptoast, on 03/28/2008, -8/+5Maybe they should hire better speech writers that don't plagiarize.
- spankaccount, on 03/28/2008, -4/+12thinkprogress is a propaganda site funded by George Soros. Whats more, this story is false. Diggbots fooled again.
- TheSabre, on 03/28/2008, -2/+7Just goes to show you how many people will believe anything they read the first time they read it without question. Of course, many of them are the same people that call other people "sheep" or "sheeple".
- dexter411, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2Anyone who dugg this should take a look at what they view as newsworthy.
Even I digg down articles against people I don't like when they're clearly a hitjob, and I'm a crazy conservative. :)
- LastVisibleDog, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2I will give you a dollar if you can prove you have clue - but you can't
- rgodfrey, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1Wow, I was wrong! I wouldn't have given a dollar to someone if this had made it to the mainstream press!
- RepubOperative, on 03/28/2008, -35/+12Obama then and now
- nrioq, on 03/28/2008, -26/+7Seeing that McCain is a foreign policy candidate, this could really hurt him. What are the odds that Democrats will capitalize on this instead of beating themselves up? Low......
- RepubOperative, on 03/28/2008, -4/+21
They've retracted the claim:
"UPDATE: It appears that Ziemer’s speech may have been plagiarized from McCain. According to the McCain campaign, the senator used these lines before Ziemer — in 1995. We regret the error.- nigh7dagger, on 03/28/2008, -4/+9No way. I completely expected Think Progress to be 100% trustworthy.
This is why blogs suck.
- nigh7dagger, on 03/28/2008, -4/+9No way. I completely expected Think Progress to be 100% trustworthy.
- DanOnTheMoon, on 03/28/2008, -1/+6Which democrats, Hillary and Obama, or McCain?
- bingobongony, on 03/28/2008, -3/+2It apparently really hurts YOU for saying this.
I notice you are not coming back to admit that you were wrong now that the facts are known.
- RepubOperative, on 03/28/2008, -4/+21
- CryRightardCry, on 03/28/2008, -36/+5How about that?
And just yesterday the rightards were screaming about Obama plagarizing.
Well I'm sure we can all count on the right wing to be honest and objective and hold McCain to the same standards.
LOL
Damn, I almost said it with a straight face.- ssn697, on 03/28/2008, -2/+15How about that? You freaked out on queue, when it was all a lie?
What are the chances we will get a sincere apology from Dave, that doesn't include a diatribe? I am going with ZERO.
You are going to die young, holding all that hatred. Darwin wins.... - mmmmmbiscuits, on 03/28/2008, -1/+17Retracted: "UPDATE: It appears that Ziemer’s speech may have been plagiarized from McCain. According to the McCain campaign, the senator used these lines before Ziemer — in 1995. We regret the error."
Cry Dave, cry! You gullible douche...- ssn697, on 03/28/2008, -1/+9he disappeared, on queue. Want to bet his plan is to avoid Digg, and this info, until he hopes everyone forgets?
- psion01, on 03/28/2008, -2/+11You know that "wa-wa-wa-waaaah" melody they used to play in the cartoons when Wyle E. Coyote got hit by his own traps to catch the Road Runner?
You should be hearing that right about now. - trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -6/+2At least ThinkProgress was able to act like adults and admit their mistake. Very simply retracting the article and apologizing. You guys are really cute though being ***** assholes to a guy who believed that a story that was on a few different news outlets was the truth. It must be nice to have never been mislead by the media ever in your lives. Get a hobby scumbags and leave the poor guy alone.
- Rich711, on 03/29/2008, -0/+3You mean rather than act like journalists and check so far as the very same quote on McCain's website. I guess when you are in the propaganda business fact checking just gets in the way.
- LastVisibleDog, on 03/28/2008, -1/+5CryRightardCry - guess you feel like a complete moron moonbat idiot right now - this is your brain on left wing extremist propaganda
Democrats are in complete free-fall - looks like McCain has already won this election - Rich711, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2Wow you must feel like an ass. A real run with the first rumor you hear nutroot left-tard. Way to be open-minded.
- ssn697, on 03/28/2008, -2/+15How about that? You freaked out on queue, when it was all a lie?
- gary210, on 03/28/2008, -19/+8Maybe this explains his Iraq "are they Shiite or Sunni" gaffe -- he probably cribbed the speech from somebody else who got it wrong.
- someguyouknow, on 03/28/2008, -10/+15This was posted on Huffington Post in big red letters for a very short time. I wonder why they pulled it.
- rodball, on 03/28/2008, -2/+21Wonder now more. Thinkprogress had it wrong.
- Pillage, on 03/28/2008, -3/+13hope Kieth sees the correction before it's put in the teleprompter.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 03/28/2008, -1/+10Awesome.
- jabberwolf, on 03/28/2008, -5/+7HUFFINGTON posted biased and wrong information? SAY IT AINT SO!!
OMFG next thing you know they might stop posting lies concerning Clinton and start posting less pro Obama ads... HAHAHA (sorry wishful thinking.) Its funny Im not a republican nor a liberal but the way liberals have been posting anything and everything (whether it be true or not -usually not) makes you wonder who is afraid of being wrong. What ever happened to actually stating facts (and verifying them) and being objective with ACTUAL comparison and perspective?
Keith O' is already preaching this as the Holy Bible of truth or as factual as the periodic table.- Doesnt matter if it is or not.
- okayokayokay, on 03/28/2008, -1/+112They've retracted the claim:
"UPDATE: It appears that Ziemer’s speech may have been plagiarized from McCain. According to the McCain campaign, the senator used these lines before Ziemer — in 1995. We regret the error.
UPDATE: As a blog that strives to maintain credibility and transparency, we would like to explain our mistake. When we were alerted to the tip that Adm. Ziemer gave a similar speech in 1996, we searched LexisNexis and McCain’s campaign site for whether the senator used the disputed phrases before that time. We did not find anything. After we published the post, the McCain campaign contacted us and pointed to a speech given by the senator in 1995, which appears on McCain’s Senate site. As soon as we were alerted to the error, we rushed to publish a correction. Once again, we regret the error."- shakbhaji, on 03/28/2008, -4/+1"Redact it!"
- Pillage, on 03/28/2008, -2/+14I have to say (and I can't believe I am actually saying this.) Good for thinkprogress for owning up to their mistake.
- MixMastaKooz, on 03/28/2008, -4/+1Thinkprogress does a good job of that from my experience...hopefully, this shows you that they may have an obvious bias, they're at least honest about mistakes and attempting to get the facts correct.
- adminmatt, on 03/28/2008, -0/+7what else could they have done? left the story as is? they didn't really own up, they got called out and their story blew up in their faces.
- bingobongony, on 03/28/2008, -4/+14So...to those great bastions of journalism at thinkprogress, all that is required to verify a hit piece is a quick googling and then post it?
- MixMastaKooz, on 03/28/2008, -5/+2They used lexis-nexis and google...it seems that did a bit more comprehensive search than you give them credit for, but they still missed it. But good for them for redacting it when presented with evidence: that's more than we can say about other "news" sources (*cough* fox news *cough*)
- bingobongony, on 03/28/2008, -3/+4PRoof of Fox News not doing this? And no...not some piece that your little bitch as mind claims was a lie just because it got your panties in a bunch. Those don't count. Your pathetic life filled with jealousy is not Fox News' fault.
But then again, you are worthless if you think that a quick lexis-mexis and google serach is thorough verification.- MixMastaKooz, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2Where was their redacted story about Obama attending a madrassa in Indonesia?
Oh, and if you're going to insult someone, have the common courtesy to at least have the semblance of proper grammar and spelling (we all make one or two mistakes).
- MixMastaKooz, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2Where was their redacted story about Obama attending a madrassa in Indonesia?
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- bingobongony, on 03/28/2008, -3/+4PRoof of Fox News not doing this? And no...not some piece that your little bitch as mind claims was a lie just because it got your panties in a bunch. Those don't count. Your pathetic life filled with jealousy is not Fox News' fault.
- MixMastaKooz, on 03/28/2008, -5/+2They used lexis-nexis and google...it seems that did a bit more comprehensive search than you give them credit for, but they still missed it. But good for them for redacting it when presented with evidence: that's more than we can say about other "news" sources (*cough* fox news *cough*)
- pintomp3, on 03/28/2008, -4/+1looks like they pulled the trigger early on that one. kudos for retracting and apologizing. i'm still waiting for the corporate media to apologize for selling the war. i'm looking at you new york times and judith miller.
- dexter411, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2Still doesn't surprise me that a retracted and unfounded claim gets on Digg's frontpage while true allegations against Democrats (that aren't Hillary Clinton) get dugg down. Sad state.
- l0k0, on 03/28/2008, -2/+54False alarm people.
- Sogui, on 03/28/2008, -9/+46Typical Thinkprogress *****, at least they made a correction. Watch this still make the front page.
UPDATE: It appears that Ziemer’s speech may have been plagiarized from McCain. According to the McCain campaign, the senator used these lines before Ziemer — in 1995. We regret the error.- boonesfarm, on 03/28/2008, -2/+6*****.com
- trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -4/+2They retracted the statement, they apologized and admitted they were wrong, what the ***** is wrong with your brain? It's obviously not ***** if the moment they find out a story is inaccurate they remove it genius.
- Jagdhund, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3What's wrong is that this asinine article will hit the front page and people will only look at the title and description and not the correction. Misinformation is the problem. This should be promptly buried by EVERYONE in good conscience.
- trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -4/+2They retracted the statement, they apologized and admitted they were wrong, what the ***** is wrong with your brain? It's obviously not ***** if the moment they find out a story is inaccurate they remove it genius.
- boonesfarm, on 03/28/2008, -2/+6*****.com
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 03/28/2008, -5/+47EPIC FAIL!
- fluxion, on 03/28/2008, -0/+7im actually rather impressed that mccain's speeches are being plagiarized
- ssn697, on 03/28/2008, -3/+12oh how i wish the real deal took longer to come out!
Come on! Give us some more angst! - ScienceDoc, on 03/28/2008, -31/+10Instant media will always make a few mistakes. Nice correction. FOX would never bother. That is what separates liberals from neocons. The ability to use their brains and admit mistakes.
- PolishLogic, on 03/28/2008, -1/+22I'll go out on a limb here and say that if this was posted and then taken down on FOX, you'd probably be raising a hell about them running it in the first place.
- DanOnTheMoon, on 03/28/2008, -7/+4Monkeys to that.. They're both authoritarian statists. They both sanction excessive government, force and compunction. They both suck. What a sad, broken paradigm, that there's a difference.
- keymanjim2, on 03/28/2008, -2/+17Yea? When is that going to start?
You're giving a free pass and a strawman to a website that is so consistently wrong.
Funny how the world MUST stop when someone on the right does something that if someone on the left does is blown of as "Well, everybody does it."
Hypocrite. - mewoot10, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2ScienceDoc you need to calm down and love the world no matter what.
- mmd643, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1WOW. This guy thinks one side is diffrent than the other still. Thats funny.
- goastros, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Yeah just like hillary's admission that she "misspoke." That's called a lie where I come from, unless your a liberal and you can call it what you want like her husband did.
- notsurewhen, on 03/28/2008, -10/+3everyone can do it but Obama
- se1zure, on 03/28/2008, -19/+13WRONG. Mcain plagiarized nothing. I hate him too, but it was the person who writes his speeches who plagiarized. Belive it or not, Obama and HIllary don't write their own speeches either.
This has nothing to do with Mcains integrity or lack there of. He didn't write the speech.- SuperSunny, on 03/28/2008, -12/+9I think Obama wrote a few of his speeches?
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -4/+1is that a question? yes, that last sentence was- you ***** moron.
- trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1Hey how about you go die in a gutter you piece of human waste? That's a question.
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -4/+1is that a question? yes, that last sentence was- you ***** moron.
- junkwheel, on 03/28/2008, -7/+6Obama wrote his race speech and it's completely obvious he has the ability and depth of understanding to write others.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 03/28/2008, -4/+9That's great! He can write more speeches, put them in a book, and I'll buy it on Amazon. But there's no way I'm voting for that huckster.
- bingobongony, on 03/28/2008, -4/+4the other CAN write them too. OBama is not more of a speech writer than the others.
- SuperSunny, on 03/28/2008, -12/+9I think Obama wrote a few of his speeches?
- nevetS, on 03/28/2008, -13/+1Who says the white house speech writing staff didn't write the original speech?
- z3r0c0O1, on 03/28/2008, -23/+5***** McCain.
- mewoot10, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3on what basis, and why? If your going to commit to something at least write out a good argument.
- trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1Please don't... he's soo... old... you might kill the poor guy.
- Hefelumpman, on 03/28/2008, -1/+31buried - they've retracted the claim
- MackDiesel2010, on 03/28/2008, -1/+3Politics aside, Naval Academy graduates do not plagiarize.
- PolishLogic, on 03/28/2008, -6/+25Hmm, why is it that I choose not to get my news from half-assed, blog-like websites like this one, firedoglake.com, or rawstory.com?
Oh yeah..... - SemiSarcastic, on 03/28/2008, -6/+3This is the dumbest ***** I've ever heard. All politicians have there own writers who write things that are tried a true in appealing to lots of people. For once, just once don't give me "hope" don't give me "Iraq for 100 years" how about will I live long enough to see my next meal tomorrow morning?
- junkwheel, on 03/28/2008, -3/+1I want a president who can't see past the dinner table also. A true visionary. Someone who puts the cap back on the sauce. Real issues. Pass the salt.
- SemiSarcastic, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1I was eluding to bread and butter issues...but I suppose calling me stupid is easier.
- junkwheel, on 03/28/2008, -3/+1I want a president who can't see past the dinner table also. A true visionary. Someone who puts the cap back on the sauce. Real issues. Pass the salt.
- jm4847, on 03/28/2008, -15/+3Politicians rarely, if ever, write their own stuff.
So he took the speech from a fellow former brainwashed killing machine instead of a staffer, big ***** deal.- SemiSarcastic, on 03/28/2008, -2/+3brainwashed killing machines have a lot of insightful things to say apparently.
- JointVenture, on 03/28/2008, -1/+8Cant you read *****? its a bogus story.
- elTito, on 03/28/2008, -1/+3"brainwashed killing machine"
LOL. What a scared, pathetic little creature you must be.
- Shiftyeyedgoat, on 03/28/2008, -2/+9Just because it hasn't been explicitly posted from the website in the comments yet, here it is:
"UPDATE: It appears that Ziemer’s speech may have been plagiarized from McCain. According to the McCain campaign, the senator used these lines before Ziemer — in 1995. We regret the error."
Nothing to see here. Move along, folks. - jedsmith, on 03/28/2008, -2/+11Buried, inaccurate. It says. Right. There.
- LordSkywalker, on 03/28/2008, -16/+7He's a douchebag either way.
- alais, on 03/28/2008, -4/+5So are you but meh.
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -4/+2Second, here here my lord........(understood)
- SoxSweepAgain, on 03/28/2008, -2/+8As anyone who's gone to the article knows, it's retracted.
- Weezergames, on 03/28/2008, -11/+1Didnt Obama do the same thing or was it that he doesnt write his own speeches?
Steve Colbert for President - jjive, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2Yes, we probably hold the same views.
But, why in the hell do I have to be bombarded with stupid headlines when I come to digg?
I do have a mind of my own. It's not perfect, but neither is a persons asshole. - ESTEBEVERDE, on 03/28/2008, -7/+1Dugg because it is clearly not the case...
- mewoot10, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1then do the research, look for the documents before spewing your ignorance.
- JointVenture, on 03/28/2008, -9/+18EPIC FAIL, man the democrats are imploding, the HUFFINGTONPOST jumped on this and are now licking their wounds.
Its all over for the Dems.- SemiSarcastic, on 03/28/2008, -5/+3"Its all over for the Dems"
Seeing how they've been around for over 100 years in name only I think it safe to say that they'll still be around for a fairly long time.- SemiSarcastic, on 03/28/2008, -1/+3Jesus, can't I make an objective observation? It's not like I have a personal agenda here.
- mmd643, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2It will really be funny if they blow the general election. I think both sides are crazy, but Obama scares me far more than McCain these days with his socialist concepts.
- trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -2/+2Well obviously capitalism and democracy are having some problems, maybe a little red book is what we need? LOL maybe you should take off the tin foil hat and realize things like universal health care don't make you a ***** communist.
- ASHole71, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2No they make you a Socialist
- trippinlikegod, on 03/28/2008, -2/+2Well obviously capitalism and democracy are having some problems, maybe a little red book is what we need? LOL maybe you should take off the tin foil hat and realize things like universal health care don't make you a ***** communist.
- SemiSarcastic, on 03/28/2008, -5/+3"Its all over for the Dems"
- Cyona, on 03/28/2008, -4/+20Reading all the comments on that story shows just how bias thinkprogress is. Their idea of a retraction is simply crossing out the word "plagiarizes."
Anyways buried for inaccuracy. Please keep thinkprogress off the front page... lets stick to cute pics of animals and web comics.- Pillage, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2What a world of difference of a post (and comments) from when Obama "borrowed" some stuff from Deval. huh?
- willskillz, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1.
- Cooperjones, on 03/28/2008, -4/+15Glad to hear McCain is an original. That's why I like him. He's got the balls to stare down the commies when he had two broken arms and a broken leg in captivity when he was a POW; we need balls right now, not that "down low" gay Obama.
- muckemuck, on 03/28/2008, -7/+1he stared down the commies? .. boy.. that's not what http://vietnamvetsagainstmccain.com think .. and make sure you read this and wonder why McCain fought so hard to have POW records sealed - http://www.shout.net/%7Ebigred/ClintonMoscow.html
- adminmatt, on 03/28/2008, -0/+4wow another conspiracy theory.. color me suprised
- Rich711, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1Wow a conspiracy website.... with actual or pretend veterans who were never POWs with McCain... what a hot scoop you found...yawn. The Government created Roswell for a reason, so you retards without a life who think you know it all can have something exciting to believe in. So do us all a favor and go poke around the desert looking for backdoors into Area 51 and leave Democracy to those of us with alteast half a brain.
- muckemuck, on 03/28/2008, -7/+1he stared down the commies? .. boy.. that's not what http://vietnamvetsagainstmccain.com think .. and make sure you read this and wonder why McCain fought so hard to have POW records sealed - http://www.shout.net/%7Ebigred/ClintonMoscow.html
- interiorss, on 03/28/2008, -12/+0The point should not be overlooked that he threw out this pablum 13 years ago. The guy hasn't had an idea that takes courage to proffer in a very long time.
Who reads Peanuts now? It is never going to be something one can't predict, and most of us are way-passed bored with the plot.
McCain is like Charlie Brown.
They are eqally stale - Pillage, on 03/28/2008, -4/+15Still gonna digg it, McCain gave a pretty good speech and it's worth seeing.
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -12/+2I bet your IQ is ummmmmmmmmmmmm at least uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
maybe, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm 100....yeah or lower- SemiSarcastic, on 03/28/2008, -2/+4razorsharpwit I wish you luck on your dream of a utopia where people like pillage are hauled to gas chambers and their remains fed to dogs. A place where liberals and conservatives like yourself will frolic freely and openly destroy the livelihoods of moderates and/or inquiring minds who prefer to see a different perspective. The best society is closed society, why compromise your reality with others if all your personal fantasies have come to fruition?
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -7/+1***** you you ***** hipster.....godamnit I hate young people who think they know everything
- SemiSarcastic, on 03/28/2008, -1/+3Hipster? Really? And who said I know everything? Pillage wanted to know something, McCain is a presidential candidate, there are others besides Obama and Hillary I think we ought to know what the man said at least.
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1all three of these candidates want to take away your rights a as a human being. If you defend any of them I'll brand you're nothing but a tory. Don't make bust out the tar and feathers.
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1oops.... spelling error...haha. If you can't laugh at yourself you don't know how to laugh!
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -2/+2JACKASS!
- Pillage, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2I appreciate the defense SemiSarcastic, but feeding the trolls just makes them grow.
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -7/+1***** you you ***** hipster.....godamnit I hate young people who think they know everything
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1hahahhahahahahhahah grammar error!..............ok I am gonna laugh myself to sleep, go phils.
- adminmatt, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2you can't expect any of us to take you seriously when you make idiotic, outlandish statements and then go on a laughing spree making even less sense.
- SemiSarcastic, on 03/28/2008, -2/+4razorsharpwit I wish you luck on your dream of a utopia where people like pillage are hauled to gas chambers and their remains fed to dogs. A place where liberals and conservatives like yourself will frolic freely and openly destroy the livelihoods of moderates and/or inquiring minds who prefer to see a different perspective. The best society is closed society, why compromise your reality with others if all your personal fantasies have come to fruition?
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -12/+2I bet your IQ is ummmmmmmmmmmmm at least uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
- thinkerbelle, on 03/28/2008, -6/+1well at least you accepted your error and regretted on it. nevertheless, we all learn out of experience. =)
Writing and Speaking Articles
http://www.articlescopy.com/ - jellygraph, on 03/28/2008, -11/+2War. War never changes.
The Romans waged war to gather slaves and wealth. Spain built an empire from its lust for gold and territory. Hitler shaped a battered Germany into an economic superpower.
But war never changes.
In the 21st century, war was still waged over the resources that could be acquired. Only this time, the spoils of war were also its weapons: Petroleum and Uranium. For these resources, China would invade Alaska, the US would annex Canada, and the European Commonwealth would dissolve into quarreling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth.
In 2077, the storm of world war had come again. In two brief hours, most of the planet was reduced to cinders. And from the ashes of nuclear devastation, a new civilization would struggle to arise.
A few were able to reach the relative safety of the large underground Vaults. Your family was part of that group that entered Vault Thirteen. Imprisoned safely behind the large Vault door, under a mountain of stone, a generation has lived without knowledge of the outside world.
Life in the Vault is about to change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE
Greetings from newly annexed Canada.- jellygraph, on 03/28/2008, -6/+1wow, who ever voted me down is a loser who obviously has never played fallout
- CHANNELOCK, on 03/28/2008, -10/+0Easy to write the typical uber patriotic tripe
"Money for defense,
"War on Islamic fascist"
"Superb job are young men and women blah blah bla "
"Are Allies blah blah bla"
"9/11"
"Republican"- metaknite, on 03/28/2008, -1/+5Did you RTFA? That was an anti-war speech.
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -3/+1I belong to the NRA and the ACLU......
Mccain is for gun control and for the amendment to ban flag burning........That's the 1st and 2nd amendments he wants to ***** on people- how free are you if you're not free to burn a symbol of you own freedom? Not very free at all..... and as for guns, I think we all know that registered gun owners don't commit crimes.- tricks574, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0McCain might be for gun control, but he wouldn't ban the manufacture and sale of firearms like Obama voted for. Its sad that its come to the lesser of two evils but it is. Plus, McCain did vote against the Brady Bill and teh Assault Weapons ban, so he's not that bad as far as guns go. The flag burning stuff is a bad vote though, and although i think he was only voting that way to garner support from the farther right, thats still a bad sign.
- Sogui, on 03/28/2008, -1/+10I gotta say it's wonderful seeing the inaccurate tag and the submissions having a RETRACTION at the top of the page, yet it still doubled in Diggs within the hour and hit the front page.
Is Digg trying to be ironic today? Or maybe people are digging it for ulterior motives, oh well. - cheezemunkey45, on 03/28/2008, -4/+4You all plagiarized in high school
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1some of us finished high school before it was easy to plagiarize off the internet. Well the jerkstore called and they just ran out of you.....oh yeah huh hah caught me hehe.
- Pillage, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3Why should they be worried, you're their all time best seller.
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1some of us finished high school before it was easy to plagiarize off the internet. Well the jerkstore called and they just ran out of you.....oh yeah huh hah caught me hehe.
- xen0blue, on 03/28/2008, -9/+3I don't understand why the liberals are trying to muckrake one of their own
- jabberwolf, on 03/28/2008, -2/+11HUFFINGTON posted biased and wrong information? SAY IT AINT SO!!
OMFG next thing you know they might stop posting lies concerning Clinton and start posting less pro Obama ads... HAHAHA (sorry wishful thinking.)
Its funny Im not a republican nor a liberal but the way liberals have been posting anything and everything (whether it be true or not -usually not) makes you wonder who is afraid of being wrong. What ever happened to actually stating facts (and verifying them) and being objective with ACTUAL comparison and perspective? - RRJackson, on 03/28/2008, -3/+6And he eats babies! Everyone must vote for Obama's subprime bailout! What else would make any sense?
- tricks574, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0That must be why Obama voted against the ban on partial birth abortions, in case McCain was waiting outside the door to eat the baby!!!
- Pedestrian101, on 03/28/2008, -3/+10IT'S FALSE IDIOTS, nice try though.
- mal1964, on 03/28/2008, -6/+5*****, At his age there is no way he could remember anything from 1996
- razorsharpwit, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1Well Done!
- Rich711, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1Yet Obama doesn't remember his preacher saying those comments and Hillary remembered snipers... Odd how your young mind conveniently forgot those facts. Remember this, you're a dooche.
- jayfarer, on 03/28/2008, -1/+4There is no need to play "Plagiarism Police" with McCain because he's not the one that tried to burn Obama on it.
- iamnotrich, on 03/28/2008, -8/+3so McCain is the new Hillary?
- charliet007, on 03/28/2008, -8/+2McCain is an idiot
- aserer511, on 03/28/2008, -2/+3just like obama 'borrowed' from deval...
- NelsonR, on 03/28/2008, -8/+1Who cares what Iraqi Johns rhetoric is. If you are listening Iraqi John how is the surge going today? Idiot!! 55,000 American lives lost in Vietnam based on a lie, The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution and now over 4,000 Americans lives lost in another god-dam lying war about WMDs and supposed absent terrorist in Iraq. Jerk, may you meet your maker for squandering Americans and our treasury for your inane, lunatic, dementia, evil, senile old mind.
- spankaccount, on 03/28/2008, -0/+10Hey diggbots, thinkprogress is a liberal propaganda site funded by George Soros.
- Pherdnut, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1Seriously, and I speak as an Obama supporter, who the hell cares even it's not false? This whole speech plagiarism of a simple turn of phrase thing is one of the dumbest attack routines of the entire campaign. "Karl Rove playbook?" I don't know where I heard that but I say it a lot and I don't think I invented it. So what? It's not like the plot of sophisticated work of fiction with all the names changed. The DFL campaigns don't need this kind of support. It just makes us looks stupid. Stop digging garbage. Buried.
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