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McCain Lies About His Support For MLK Jr. Day in Arizona
crooksandliars.com — Clearly, McCain is not used to the YouTube generation where you can no longer lie without a bunch of bloggers furiously fact-checking. And the facts for McCain, they don’t look so good.
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- iupetre, on 08/03/2008, -9/+87Anyone know what this brings his tally to?
- Bakka, on 08/03/2008, -13/+40Over 9000!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI- Emelius, on 08/03/2008, -13/+2Dude.. i have never seen that meme, props
- evilesttoast, on 08/04/2008, -0/+3@Emelius
Are you serious
- inboxnews, on 08/03/2008, -13/+12Gallup Daily: McCain, Obama Remain Tied: 44, 44. http://www.gallup.com/poll/109180/Gallup-Daily-McC ...
- stagmire, on 08/03/2008, -5/+7Check out the swing states though where Obama seems to be kicking major ass.
- shakbhaji, on 08/03/2008, -2/+3I think by tally, he meant number of lies he's been called out on.
- bloomanchoo, on 08/04/2008, -1/+2http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama ...
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
- lajaw, on 08/03/2008, -14/+8Check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6syUD1I4U
Is he lying now?- vexingmodstwo, on 08/03/2008, -11/+7That was the last time I actually had some respect for Obama. When he went back on that, I knew he was a fraud.
- someguy92, on 08/03/2008, -6/+6http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt3Vk4AJwN4
- Stormwern, on 08/03/2008, -4/+5Yes, he is still lying!
- elipabst, on 08/03/2008, -5/+8Lying != Changing your mind
He made those statements in 2004 before even serving a day as a Senator. He didn't announce his candidacy for President until May 2007. He even said in the video that he felt that he was one of those people who wouldn't run unless he felt he was qualified for the job. So after working for 3 years he now feels qualified, what's your point? George Bush was only governor of Texas for 5 years. - stevelasseter, on 08/03/2008, -3/+5Are you saying Bush was qualified?
- elipabst, on 08/04/2008, -1/+3"Are you saying Bush was qualified?"
Based exclusively on how much political experience he had, yes. Obviously the bulk of Americans though he was as well. On everything other than that the guy was a freakin retard, that I wouldn't let watch my dog.
To further illustrate my point, Abraham Lincoln only served 2 years in the Illinois House of Representatives. Was he "unqualified"?
- ruddy, on 08/03/2008, -15/+4why would he support mlk day in arizona? That's like celebrating independence day in Russia. there's like 3 afros in arizona, tops.
- stagmire, on 08/03/2008, -1/+17If blacks were MLK's only supporters he wouldn't have gotten very far.
- ekdevdas, on 08/03/2008, -3/+1i think it shows that mccain's a big pandering phony, sucking up to neocons. regardless, it also shows he's out of touch, because a heck of a lot of people in az support mlk day.
- pintomp3, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2even those 3 "afros" have benefited from the civil rights movement.
- Rotzooi, on 08/03/2008, -4/+8Here's a tally, documented and annotated:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/3/0717/55 ...- BadgerDigger, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/
- wilywondr, on 08/03/2008, -4/+15More than enough to eliminate him from any job where he needs to be trusted.
Maybe he should just retire and live off of his $2000month SS check/$4800month Military pension/$4000month Congressional pension or maybe just his wife's $40 million inheritance.
This guy is a joke to anyone that works for a living and firmly re-enforces the fact that 40% of Americans are complete idiots if they believe anything this guy says. - DanPlainview, on 08/03/2008, -18/+7Rabble rabble, McCain lies, rabble rabble, McCain is a racist, rabble rabble, McCain raped my mother, rabble rabble...
- Stormwern, on 08/03/2008, -4/+15He also lied about Obama retracting the comments.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/01/ ... (last two paragraphs) - rtmag, on 08/03/2008, -14/+5"McCain isn't trustworthy," you say.
Do you believe everything *Obama* says? He doesn't really have any substance to his speeches (facts, numbers, tangible data...). So he can make all the promises he wants and doesn't really have to keep them.
As for McCain and MLK day:
All politicians change their views from time to time. McCain himself wishes he would have been for MLK day from the start.
Look, I realize McCain isn't a perfect man. Neither is Obama.- seddyei, on 09/18/2008, -2/+4The whole "hey McCain might be a deceitful and disastrous presidential candidate, but Obama probably is too" rebuttal is wearing thin.
- bloomanchoo, on 08/04/2008, -1/+2strawman
- 5urr3al5am, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1 wow getting dug down? people can't admit that O'Bama isn't perfect.. LOL terrific!
- Jauladeoro, on 08/27/2008, -2/+5McCain couldn't pass the ethics test to get a job at Wal-Mart at this point.
- Rotzooi, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2Considering Wal-Mart's "don't vote Democrat, they'll destroy the country" ethics, yes he could.
- Rotzooi, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2Considering Wal-Mart's "don't vote Democrat, they'll destroy the country" ethics, yes he could.
- Bakka, on 08/03/2008, -13/+40Over 9000!!!
- meese, on 08/03/2008, -10/+121How long was that pause? And then he forgot her question and she had to re-ask.
I think we just saw the first real obvious "senior moment" of the campaign.- OstrakonX, on 08/03/2008, -6/+26You honestly think that was the first?
- honeybrass, on 08/03/2008, -10/+5You honestly think he forgot to dig himself a political hole and instead went with digging himself a political hole? The only reason this doesn't happen more is the media is GOP.
- Marmeladov, on 08/03/2008, -0/+5He didn't forget the question. He was just stalling because he knows the Obama pulling the race card is BS and he's never done ***** and doesn't care about African Americans.
- chassach, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2Really? The first! How old are you?
- cg4et, on 08/03/2008, -9/+59Poor old guy probably just forgot. It seems to happen a lot.
- user500, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5He is so electable like President Ronald Reagan, who when questioned couldn't remember his actions as President.
- satirical, on 08/03/2008, -10/+49Wow-- he sounds remarkable like President Bush when answering tough questions. Pause . . . stall . . . stutter . . . articulate the "r" in "America". . . and say things that run around and don't really mean anything. I guess that's what all politicians do nowadays.
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -25/+5Kind of like Obama w/o a teleprompter and prepared speeches.
- xedd, on 08/03/2008, -4/+8McCain probably has the same electronic gadgetry as Bush under his suit that tells him what to say...
- Alucard010, on 08/03/2008, -7/+81He would know not to lie like this if he knew about the internet.
- charm803, on 08/03/2008, -4/+23The internetS.
- UltramegaOK, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2You search for things with "The Google"
- JFitzpatrick, on 08/03/2008, -0/+7It's funny but my wife and I were just talking about this the other day. I couldn't believe how many times I'd read articles about McCain (or many many politicians for that matter) saying they did things they didn't, voted on things they hadn't, etc. Don't they understand that while they are saying it, any kid in the audience with a cellphone and a data plan can be looking up their voting record instantly online? It's like McCain among other elected officials simply doesn't understand that the world is that connected.
- Arishia, on 08/04/2008, -1/+1Or is it that it doesn't matter that the world is connected and WE don't know that? eep...I hope not.
- charm803, on 08/03/2008, -4/+23The internetS.
- stinkymonkey, on 08/03/2008, -6/+39Don't be so harsh on him.....He acts as presidential as anyone in a nursing home would.
- Carv, on 08/03/2008, -4/+92"Oh! Oh! Oh! I think his, I think his..Oh! Because I think his, his comments were clearly, were clearly the race card. Because of what he said."
Wow. Very intelligent. - DD2CC2U, on 08/03/2008, -4/+29Someone needs to do an accurate and referenced list of McCain lies and post the entire list on the Internet. It would not hurt to have a easy way to email the entire list to your friends.
- augustcandi, on 08/03/2008, -3/+22heres one
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/3/0717/55880/ ...- Rotzooi, on 08/03/2008, -2/+6Worth a separate submission!
- Rotzooi, on 08/03/2008, -1/+8...and it has been submitted:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/An_Accurate_and_ ...
Thanks, jamesalfaro! - foreignwarren, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3would be nice if something like that would make FP, but I'm pretty sure the McSame bury brigade will get to it first....dugg anyway.
- tjmb9, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2It's a good list, but someone should make one that isn't on dailykos, because there are a lot of people likely to just ignore it because they have already decided not to trust that website. Those people probably need to see that list more than the rest of us.
- augustcandi, on 08/03/2008, -3/+22heres one
- jodimcmullen, on 08/03/2008, -8/+16McCain is a PUPPET - A total egomaniac.
- inboxnews, on 08/03/2008, -8/+4FISA. Just words.
- spinchange, on 08/03/2008, -1/+4Immigration reform. Just straight talk
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -5/+3Let me guess, Obama is some sort of radical, free-thinking, rebel politician?
- pullablank, on 08/03/2008, -2/+1Maybe not but I think it makes him the better candidate.
- PolishLogic, on 08/03/2008, -5/+5So does that make Obama a marionette?
- inboxnews, on 08/03/2008, -8/+4FISA. Just words.
- richirwin, on 08/03/2008, -6/+85So on Friday McCain met with black leaders in Orlando and said that he was wrong for not supporting MLK day.
Then, the very next day, McCain claims that he voted for honoring Dr. King?
He is either a really bad liar or he is deranged.
Either way, he's an unacceptable candidate for President.- tb0n3r, on 08/03/2008, -8/+3Yes. I prefer my Presidential Candidates to be really GOOD liars!
- exomni, on 08/03/2008, -0/+10Yes. ***** yes. Lies have to be told, why the hell would you want someone who you can see straight through hold the secrets and keys to this country?
- cyberprunes, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Lies do not have to be told. Misleading the public to support your corrupt agenda is not Democracy. If you think that lying is an acceptable part of politics you have been corrupted by years of propaganda. The government belongs to the people, we are their authority. They are accountable to us. That's the theory anyway.
- crunchdigg, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2yep
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/orl-m ...
"McCain's appearance -- which included exchanges with his black audience on everything from affirmative action to his vote against a Martin Luther King Jr. holiday -- continued his recent efforts to dismiss his rival as untested and insubstantial." - crunchdigg, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2yep
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/orl-m ...
McCain's appearance -- which included exchanges with his black audience on everything from affirmative action to his vote against a Martin Luther King Jr. holiday -- continued his recent efforts to dismiss his rival as untested and insubstantial.
- tb0n3r, on 08/03/2008, -8/+3Yes. I prefer my Presidential Candidates to be really GOOD liars!
- SheilaNoya, on 08/03/2008, -6/+29I can't wait for the 3 debates to begin.
McCain will be a bumbling fool just like Bush was. He'll need the same mysterious "hump" under the back of his jacket that Bush used to feed him the correct answers.- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -30/+5And Obama will need the teleprompter to help him preach his empty promises, as long as they throw a few buzzwords, everyone will cheer.
Too bad big bad Obama can't take McCain up on his town hall debates. Obama has more stipulations to answer questions from the American people in a town hall setting with McCain than meeting with foreign leaders and terrorists.- vinod1978, on 08/03/2008, -1/+11@johndavidjack - Buzzwords? How about McCain's national gas tax holiday, or continually saying that Obama must share Rev. Wright's beliefs, or McCain saying he supports renewable resources while he wants to cut taxes for oil companies, and let them drill ANYWHERE. Buzzwords? Pandering? Are you sure you are talking about the right candidate?
- JoeVet, on 08/04/2008, -1/+2Those town hall meetings have a hand picked pro-McCain audience. Why would Obama attend? What I'd like to see is McCain in front of an unscreened audience. The debates are going to be a blood bath. The old man is going to go down big time.
- johndavidjack, on 08/04/2008, -3/+1First off, I'm sure the McCain campaign would allow Obama to choose spots for town hall meetings as well. I think that would be a reasonable for Obama to ask that, and for McCain to accept.
Now, what I don't get is, what is the problem with a pro-McCain audience asking questions? Isn't Obama supposed to be trying to win over people from McCain? McCain supporters will ask questions that will require Obama to answer with more than just campaign rhetoric. If Obama does a good job answering tough questions, don't you think people will think he is more than just fluff?
If Obama is such a great speaker, electrifying, etc then he should have no problem blowing McCain away wherever they have a debate, not just the 3 joke debates later on... - Origin415, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1So you think a debate where Obama answers tough questions, while McCain gets to recite his campaign platform is fair?
I think Obama would still make it look good, but that is not fair at all. Debates are supposed to be done in front of an undecided audience so that both sides get asked tough questions.
- pintomp3, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1that may not be a good thing, there are a lot of bumbling fools who identified with bush and will identify with mccain.
- hatdrop, on 08/03/2008, -5/+0clearly you've never worn a suit sheila!
it's called a PUCK! everyone that wears a suit gets it! - johndavidjack, on 08/04/2008, -2/+1Edit: replying to wrong thread...
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -30/+5And Obama will need the teleprompter to help him preach his empty promises, as long as they throw a few buzzwords, everyone will cheer.
- flidge, on 08/03/2008, -4/+36my ***** goes off the scale when i read about mccain.
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -2/+9I was going to insult you, but you use the word ***** in just about every single one of your posts, which is funny...
- najibk, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1he totally does too lol.
- foreignwarren, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2where do I get a *****??? sign me up!
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -2/+9I was going to insult you, but you use the word ***** in just about every single one of your posts, which is funny...
- MilitantMarker, on 08/03/2008, -5/+46McCain lies because he knows the MSM won't cover the story.
- DuggDowner, on 08/03/2008, -6/+38McCain is a serial liar.
- lajaw, on 08/03/2008, -18/+6Obama says he doesn't have the experience to be president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6syUD1I4U
Did he lie then, or is he lying now? Wath it if you dare.- DuggDowner, on 08/03/2008, -4/+11You really are a moron.
- lajaw, on 08/03/2008, -13/+4The truth hurts doesn't it? Good.
- someguy92, on 08/03/2008, -0/+9http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt3Vk4AJwN4
- lajaw, on 08/03/2008, -8/+1Hey someguy92, I don't support either of these leftist liars. I was merely pointing out that your messiah is a false prophet and you have been hoodwinked. The truth still hurts though, doesn't it? Good.
- ninti, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5Seriously, you don't see the difference between changing your mind and lying about your record? Seriously? You are that stupid? It's mind boggling.
- ixtapalapaquetl, on 08/03/2008, -7/+1Tell me about it. He claims to eat Cheerios for breakfast, but there's a video clearly showing him eating Pop Tarts.
- lajaw, on 08/03/2008, -18/+6Obama says he doesn't have the experience to be president.
- petsheep, on 08/03/2008, -28/+15diggers full of sweetness, light, perfection, all knowing, all seeing, forgiving and non-judgmental of race, religion or creed, just like Senator Obama
- Endemoniada, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2You know, I've been following this election on Digg and anywhere else as much as anyone, and I've yet to find a single comment made BY AN OBAMA SUPPORTER that claims he is some sort of messiah. I have, however, read hundreds of comments by republicans and McCain supporters claiming Obama is, indeed, the Messiah (sarcastic or not, the comments were made).
Ever heard about shooting yourself in the foot?
- Endemoniada, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2You know, I've been following this election on Digg and anywhere else as much as anyone, and I've yet to find a single comment made BY AN OBAMA SUPPORTER that claims he is some sort of messiah. I have, however, read hundreds of comments by republicans and McCain supporters claiming Obama is, indeed, the Messiah (sarcastic or not, the comments were made).
- kroses, on 08/03/2008, -13/+7McCain has Alzheimer's Disease even worse than Reagan, at this stage in his life!
- DaDrake, on 08/03/2008, -11/+4Great comparison .... since Reagan was one of the most popular presidents and undoubtedly .... a great one. Then again, after Carter, how can you not look good?
- Wartyboskfapped, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5Reagan was a piece of *****.
- DaDrake, on 08/03/2008, -11/+4Great comparison .... since Reagan was one of the most popular presidents and undoubtedly .... a great one. Then again, after Carter, how can you not look good?
- UserNull, on 08/03/2008, -13/+6Why did a story about a politician lying make the front page? That's what I want to know.
- Burrito, on 08/03/2008, -1/+9Because people are tired of it and trying to expose as many as they can. It's a drop in the bucket, but it's better than nothing.
- dinot, on 08/03/2008, -1/+11Maybe because right now, there's some sort of contest going on.... to be a leader of some powerful country? You really should start to pay attention.
- ConfuciusOne, on 08/03/2008, -5/+24I'm not nearly as mad as that he lied, as I am mad that this will never make MSM.
/dies a little more inside- twinklyJesus, on 08/03/2008, -6/+5This didn't need to make the MSM. A majority of people didn't believe that MLK should have a holiday. Historically, at the time, the precedent had been that only dead presidents of historic significance were honored this way. MLK was not a person who had held office and many at the time, Democrat and Republican, felt it cheapened the honor toward Lincoln, and Washington. It was, however, being done as a conciliatory act to pacify an incredibly angry black population during a time of great social upheaval and racial violence.
If he did vote against it, he shouldn't feel the need to apologize. It's another of those media "trick" questions that there is no right answer to. Another example would be "when did you stop beating your wife?", no matter what you answer, the aspersion has been planted. Then, the Digg-monkies run wild with the conspiracy/outrageous indignation and it might as well have been true.
You are so used it's not funny and you don't even realize it.- rz8472, on 08/03/2008, -2/+5He was against it as recently as 1987. This wasn't back in the 60s.
- elipabst, on 08/03/2008, -1/+12Ah yes, Christopher Columbus was a fine President as well.
- ConfuciusOne, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7If you say so twinkly. I'd like to see your sources that "a majority of people didn't believe that MLK should have a holiday." So what MLK didn't hold office, does that make his contributions any less significant? Hmm let's see...a nation clearly divided by race with separate facilities, restaurants, etc electing a black man for anything worth two *****...I bet we'd still be waiting. Ghandi
Also, how was it a trick question? He didn't vote for passing it...common sense would dictate to tell the truth. Hell, if he had given a reason like you had maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal to me.
Then again, maybe I'm just taking this personally because as a black man, I don't know where I would be today if it weren't for the actions of MLK and so many others that pushed for civil rights for all people. - Kas70, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3ConfuciusOne,
Very well said. All people of color would be in an entirely different boat without the contributions of MLK and others, myself included. - zombies187, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3"A majority of people didn't believe that MLK should have a holiday. "
I am John McCain, and I approved this message. - twinklyJesus, on 08/04/2008, -0/+5It was signed into law in 1983 by Ronald Reagan.
My sources on how people felt are from the fact that I was ***** there! We discussed this, it was on the news, it was in print, we communicated with each other how we felt. We didn't just sit around in "our-side-is-good-yours-sucks" circle-jerks like you do now, demon-izing anyone who has an opinion that is not exactly like yours.
Many felt there were others (esp. since no one but Presidents got holidays save Columbus and St. Patrick and I don't understand that, either) John and Bobby Kennedy made MLK's dream come true, both were assassinated, both held high political office. Both Roosevelts also were considered by many to be more deserving of the honor, by many.
It had nothing to do with racism (which is what the article is trying to say) it had to do with whom you felt should and should not be honored by national holidays, and whether or not one deserved it more than the other. It shows more the strength of a person's conviction, to stand by his decision even though Political Correctness Nazis try to paint everyone who disagrees with them as racists, no matter what the real reason is.
Many felt Affirmative Action had more to do with MLK getting that holiday, in an attempt to be conciliatory. This was the age of forced busing and huge changes, culturally were occurring all over the US. There were a lot of reasons it was done and a lot of reasons people opposed it and most had nothing whatsoever to do with race.
- vinod1978, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Actually, I have seen it on MSNC - there are one of the only good guys in MSM that are left, but they didn't spend as much time on it as they spent on discussing other issues like Rev. Wright & Jessie Jackson. I assume this will come out a lot after the conventions. Poor McCain - he has no choice but to push a negative campaign - too bad all the negative news is about him.
- twinklyJesus, on 08/03/2008, -6/+5This didn't need to make the MSM. A majority of people didn't believe that MLK should have a holiday. Historically, at the time, the precedent had been that only dead presidents of historic significance were honored this way. MLK was not a person who had held office and many at the time, Democrat and Republican, felt it cheapened the honor toward Lincoln, and Washington. It was, however, being done as a conciliatory act to pacify an incredibly angry black population during a time of great social upheaval and racial violence.
- LMControl, on 08/03/2008, -16/+9Yes, that's all well and good, but no one cares except the fanatical extremists who live to point out every mis-quote, sidestep or non-direct answer. While I'm sure you just came in your pants when you discovered this little tidbit, but 99.9999% of America won't hear about it, won't care about it, and won't even give a damn if they do.
- mikelist, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5i'm pretty sure a significant number of black and other minority voters would take exception to your 99.9% figure.
he literally opposed the mlk holiday, probably before he found out that coloreds really do vote sometimes.
an apology, a la george wallace, would be a better place to start than lying about it. the guvnuh got a surprising amount of props for that apology.
as you say though, this new tidbit is unlikely to change many minds, and if they previously planned on voting for mccain they are even less likely to be swayed.. racism in america hasn't disappeared, merely changed in ways that aren't as likely seen as immediately malevolent. - FairDinkumMate, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3LMControl - I am a little confused! Could you please explain to me whether LYING about your voting record is considered a mis-quote, sidestep or non-direct answer?
As far as I can tell:
mis-quote - Well it's on video tape that appears undedited, so unlikely
Sidestep - Not really, he answered
Non-direct answer - No, the answer he gave related to the question, it was just untruthful
- mikelist, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5i'm pretty sure a significant number of black and other minority voters would take exception to your 99.9% figure.
- pablo0713, on 08/03/2008, -12/+5Too bad most McCain supporters don't know what a blog is. And most can barely even get on the Internet.
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -8/+6I forgot that being able to use the internet and read sensationalist, baseless, ***** blogs is a requirement to be well educated.
- PabloMac, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2Don't give our name a bad name.
- OffPiste, on 08/03/2008, -8/+5Why even hold the election at this point? Judging from the opinions expressed here on Digg McCain will be lucky to get 5% of the general electorate. I personally don't know anyone who will vote for McCain. Seems like an awful waste of money. Shouldn't McCain just do the honorable thing at this point and quit, then we wouldn't have to hold an election we could just have an inauguration in Jan. McCain and Obama could just donate the hundreds of millions they've raised to the poor.
- rowjimmy, on 08/03/2008, -1/+11digg's not really a representative sample of the vast intellectual prowess that is the united states citizenry.
- DaDrake, on 08/03/2008, -3/+3Yea the new polls from the gallup show McCain and Obama tied. While Obama surged slightly during the start of his European trip, the polls show him go back down towards the end. This election will be close.
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -9/+4@OffP
Read some of the poll numbers before saying something stupid. Obama is so incompetent that this race is close...- SkinnerBox, on 08/03/2008, -0/+6I think you meant to say, "America is so racist" or at least, "America is so partisan and uninformed."
Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review, McCain finished at the bottom if his class in the Air Force Academy. Who's incompetent? - SkinnerBox, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Check that, Naval Academy.
- OffPiste, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2How in the world could you ever mistake the naval academy for the AF academy? That's not a mistake that's just utter incompetence.
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -2/+1@OffPiste
My bad, I missed the sarcasm in your earlier post. - OffPiste, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2@johndavidjack
Whew! I was worried for you. Nice save. - FairDinkumMate, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1So this is your 'defence' of McCain's lying now?
Oh it doesn't really matter that Digg readers know he lies because the people that will elect him are too stupid to use the internet! - cyberprunes, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1Please elaborate on this alleged "incompetence". Give me examples..
You may not like the man but incompetence is not one of his qualities.
The poll number are not from incompetence. Obama has run a near flawless campaign. The incompetence lies witth the people who buy into these ridiculous political ads. The incompetence lies with the people who after witnessing the devastation and carnage left by the Bush administration are still willing to allow another Republican administration. I say let the pendulum swing back to blue. The republican party needs at least 4 years to regroup and remember that eroding freedoms and liberty is no way to protect them.
- SkinnerBox, on 08/03/2008, -0/+6I think you meant to say, "America is so racist" or at least, "America is so partisan and uninformed."
- senatorpjt, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Judging from the opinions expressed on Digg, you'd expect Ron Paul to be running unopposed.
- nontoxyc, on 08/03/2008, -2/+38Old Man Yells At Cloud
- SkinnerBox, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3I love that, even though the show sucks now, the odd Simpsons reference from the good old days still pop up from time to time.
- freethinkerusa, on 08/03/2008, -5/+4Talking about dancing around a question.
- Misogyny, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5Dancing? More like "I've fallen and I can't get up."
- nastronomical, on 08/03/2008, -5/+23I am black not "African American" whatever that is. To be honest MLK day means nothing. He on the other hand means alot. African Americans have perverted his memory and stray far from his teachings. 99% of the fools you see celebrating his Day do not give a damn and are the typical race baiting fools such as Jackson and Sharpton.
- ..eD, on 08/03/2008, -0/+6I lived in Arizona when the state was debating on creating the holiday or not. One problem was that a lot of people were not in favor of giving all of the state workers another holiday. Unfortunately, if you took that view, some people felt it was ok to call you a racist.
- filldeviant, on 08/03/2008, -0/+5Damn, you hit that nail on the head. MLK's teachings are completely forgotten. The black community has failed him with people like Jesse Jackson. We need another MLK in our generation to lead the community back to peaceful solutions to their problems.
- hatdrop, on 08/03/2008, -2/+1like the fact that we shouldn't be in racist wars like vietnam and his emerging move towards socialist beliefs?
hell yea people have forgotten his teachings. the neo con right in the country have been twisting his words to reinstate an inequitable social order that keeps the people of all colors down while promoting a select few of all colors up.
and sorry you folks are wrong if you believe he wanted to bring "peaceful" solutions. he recognized the inherent violence that was going on. the point of selma was to show the world how violent some parts of the country were towards blacks, that doesn't really sound peaceful to me. but while i particularly don't agree that one should be non-violent when the other side is trying to kill you, i do respect the man a lot because it did the job.
- acroyear2, on 08/03/2008, -7/+2John McCain is familiar with YouTube traditions... and more recently facebook ones.
- crackberri, on 08/03/2008, -12/+6"I am the ONE the world has been waiting for"
- SkinnerBox, on 08/03/2008, -2/+1Idiot
- xman8, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1Well said!
- DaDrake, on 08/03/2008, -8/+22Not sure why MLK day is such a controversy. There been tons of American leaders who never had their own holiday. In fact, no President has his own holiday... they all must share the insignificant "president's day" holiday (and share it with horrible Presidents.... like Jackson). Not to mention, having a national holiday for MLK lowers the significance of the struggles other minorities faced. Where is the national holiday for the crimes against Native Americans? How about the harsh treatment Irish and Germans faced when coming to the USA. Blacks aren't the only group that has struggled in the USA .... and MLK isn't the only great leader.
- elipabst, on 08/03/2008, -3/+5That's actually false. You'll see it called "President's" day a lot, but it is technically called Washington's birthday by the Federal Government. All official calendars of Federal holidays call it Washington's birthday.
Example of Federal holidays:
http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedh ...
http://www.archives.gov/news/federal-holidays.html
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/k8.htm- Maynza, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1Not to mention extremely recently it was Washington's birthday and then Lincoln's birthday on the 12 and they consolidated them into "presidents day".
- Burrito, on 08/03/2008, -2/+8I agree with your point (kinda) but for the record, blacks didn't "struggle" when they came to America. They were taken from their homeland, in bulk and enslaved here for generations. Even after slavery was abolished, they were denied basic human rights and even today, continue to "struggle" for socio-economical equality.
- crunchdigg, on 08/04/2008, -1/+1I think you missed the point.
McCain clearly knows he voted against the holiday, thus the discussion
he had the day before.
Then he claims the exact opposite the next day. He's either REALLY
forgetful or he's lying and counting on no one checking the facts.
It could have been about being 100 percent behind the president and SURE
the war would be "easy" and then oddly being the war's "biggest critic". A
couple of examples like that and you've got a predictable trait. - ObamAmerican48, on 08/04/2008, -1/+1True, but the fact that other leaders don't have their own special days is no reason to negate the importance of MLK day.
- elipabst, on 08/03/2008, -3/+5That's actually false. You'll see it called "President's" day a lot, but it is technically called Washington's birthday by the Federal Government. All official calendars of Federal holidays call it Washington's birthday.
- worldtrade2890, on 08/03/2008, -8/+29America, if you elect this dumbass, you will once and for all prove your stupidity. It'll be official.
- kd1s, on 08/03/2008, -5/+20Wow, seriously reduced cognitive function. Had to ask for the question to be repeated before he could even attempt a vacuous answer.
You mean to tell me people want a mentally deficient old man as their president?- techweenie, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2Sure, he reminds some of Reagan.
- monkeyod, on 08/03/2008, -6/+20This senior moment was brought to you by Depend Undergarments.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 08/03/2008, -6/+11Another day, another McCain lie. It'd be easier to simply record the days that McCain doesn't lie...
- EvilCan, on 08/03/2008, -10/+5I'm sick of this ***** on digg everyday. We all know McCain sucks. We all know we're going to vote for Obama, I really don't think you're reaching out to any republicans on this site so why bother posting this crap?
- rowjimmy, on 08/03/2008, -4/+5i'm not going to vote for obama.
- SatoriSeeker, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4An informed electorate is necessary for a democracy to function.
That, and not having diebold count the votes.- EvilCan, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1So that means you read all the propaganda that the GOP puts out right?
- FairDinkumMate, on 08/04/2008, -0/+3Not the GOP, but I sure as hell will look at information provided by a right-winger in a well thought out response to an article or comment.
- SkinnerBox, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Well, it might not change any of our minds, but it might eventuall get some traction in the MSM if it becomes a big enough story on the internet.
Maybe Stewart or Colbert will mention it. They have been known to spill stories over to the MSM before.
It also gives us a link to send to our family members who aren't informed. - ninti, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2Because you need to look at what the Republicans do. They repeat a lie so many times that most people think it is true. From Willie Horton to swiftboating to WMDs, that's how they win. We need to repeat the truth as many times as they lie, to have any chance of countering it.
- jeffbw, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Because it's the truth and it'll never make it on the teevee. Somebody has to do actual reporting.
- Cuchanu, on 08/03/2008, -2/+39Reporter: "What have you done to fight for equal rights?"
McCain: "Lower taxes"
Me: "WTF?"
He has got to be kidding. He has opposed the MLK holiday, he has fought to end affirmative action and then to top it off he plays the race card by accusing Obama of playing the race card.- cnot3, on 08/03/2008, -2/+8Affirmative action is the antithesis of equal rights. It is inherently unequal.
- randumbusername, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3i say get rid of it. i don't see how it helps black folk but black folk get the blame of wanting reverse racism.
- Origin415, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2Part of the arguement for it is that minorities typically go to poorer schools and will test lower solely because of that, so need the boost AA gives them. However, that's a dumb arguement as minorities != poor, there are well off minorities, and there are poor whites.
I would be in favor of income based AA, just take the race part out of it because that is completely irrelevant. - Cuchanu, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1If all things were equal I'd agree with you. But because of social inequality they are not, and AA's goal is not to give preferential treatment to minorities, but rather to help even things out a little.
- dagnabbit, on 08/03/2008, -2/+1And yet, he'll probably get at least 43-46% of the vote in November. "Don't take mah guns!"
- cnot3, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1The right to bear arms is fundamental to a free society. Nearly every dictatorship that has every come to be began with the seizure of citizen's weapons.
- Endemoniada, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2I'd say a free country is a country where you don't NEED guns. If you feel the urge to "protect yourself" against the government (so, do it already!!!) you're not really living very "freely", are you?
- Origin415, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1I don't believe a military uprising is a good way to protect yourself from the government. Look what happened to the French, to Russia, etc. If you take down the government with force, history shows you rule the country with force.
Freedom of speech/press is really what is necessary, if the government is widely disapproved of, it can't do much, especially if other governments get behind the citizens. - Cuchanu, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1What drives me nuts is that dems will never take people's guns (as a whole) and republicans will never make abortion illegal so people should stop voting on those two things because it doesn't matter who you pick they will stay the same (for the most part).
- cnot3, on 08/03/2008, -2/+8Affirmative action is the antithesis of equal rights. It is inherently unequal.
- maxer64, on 08/03/2008, -6/+7How many John Mccain.com blog spamming points do you get per day on digg? What happens when you get 1000? Are they like Marlboro points?
- cmonroe, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4He acted like he was looking for Cindy to whisper the answer to him. She looked lost; the poor governor appeared stunned/embarrassed. What can I say? Bottom line is: This man is least qualified for the job than I am.
- hatdrop, on 08/03/2008, -0/+0but you'd love to have a beer with him right?
that totally means he deserves to have the arguably most powerful office in the world.
- hatdrop, on 08/03/2008, -0/+0but you'd love to have a beer with him right?
- cmonroe, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4He acted like he was looking for Cindy to whisper the answer to him. She looked lost; the poor governor appeared stunned/embarrassed. What can I say? Bottom line is: This man is least qualified for the job than I am.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 08/03/2008, -4/+8I see the McCain "tubes" contingent is out busily burying all critical comments...
- stinkymonkey, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5They are doing there best, but its a loosing battle...its like supporting a senile grandfather for president.
- gnocchi1442, on 08/03/2008, -1/+6Hey, at least they're aware the internet exists, unlike their candidate.
- SniperZ, on 08/03/2008, -1/+9Alright... Uhh... um.... oh... err..
- morepowerr, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5McCain is just saying to much wrong to even think about getting my vote. If i vote at all it will not be till i see the running mates. I just cant get over the ad's i have seen him run there all FEAR ad's. It is fear campaign just like something Bush would pull. And i do not like his Victory or Death! view on the war. It bring to mind the "Alamo".( The US is starting to look like 1 big Alamo any way.) And his view that Nuclear Energy is Safe. Brings to mind the words "Chernobyl" & "Homer Simpson".
- Kas70, on 08/03/2008, -2/+6It's unfortunate that some, like McCain, did not appreciate (and many still don't) the life altering contributions MLK made in the lives of their fellow citizens.
- mgard7331, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Just because someone doesn't support a national holiday in honor of somebody doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate what that person did.
- serenity67, on 08/03/2008, -1/+10What a scary combination... borderline senility AND a liar!! YIKES!! What UNDESIREABLE QUALITIES in a presidential candidate!
- dupswapdrop, on 08/03/2008, -1/+10McCain Bush Nixon whats the difference? Their all just big company controlled rich white guys.
- SatoriSeeker, on 08/03/2008, -2/+6If McCain wins I'll know for sure we don't live in any sort of democracy.
- SkinnerBox, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5No, you'll know for sure that we live in a country of uneducated rednecks who are easily led around by fear and distrust. And their religion, don't for get religion.
Who ever said Democracy worked?- curtisag, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1No one ever said Democracy works, not even the founding fathers. They were highly skeptical of democracy and likened it to mob rule. That's why only land owners and men could vote initially. Personally, I think we need a current events exam and IQ test for every election. People should earn the right to vote, not just be given it.
- SkinnerBox, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5No, you'll know for sure that we live in a country of uneducated rednecks who are easily led around by fear and distrust. And their religion, don't for get religion.
- kenedamick, on 08/03/2008, -1/+6Oh boy looks like "the Maverick" has lost it again! Quick - someone grab old man McCain's crazy pills! He's lost it again!
- xman8, on 08/03/2008, -3/+1OH look! Baby Obama has soiled his diapers again. Your turn to change them!
- aurorazz, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2I'll change his, if you'll change Grandpa McGoo's depends. Yuck!!!
- xman8, on 08/03/2008, -3/+1OH look! Baby Obama has soiled his diapers again. Your turn to change them!
- Fanboy88, on 08/03/2008, -1/+9What has happened to McCain? Now he has the mentality of a child and he is a racist. How did he get nominated as a candidate for the Republican Party? The so called "Maverick" is an establishment tool. The Republican Party used to stand for fiscal responsibility and discipline, limited government and a foreign policy guided by realism and coalition building. Now it is the party of bitter white racist tools.
- aurorazz, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Bush & Co. have been running things for 8 years!!!
- MindyB, on 08/28/2008, -0/+1The Republican party, in theory stood for the things you stated. However, in practice, the Republican party has been the party of bitter white wheatlhy racist tools.
- slr51, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5He said it was a mistake he made because of "youthful ignorance".
Heh - he was 48 at the time!
So when you're as old McGramp is then 48 counts as youthful?
Hey - you kids get off my lawn!! - MikeFallopian, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1"You will damn well do this. You will make this a holiday. You're making us look like fools."
- McCain to Republican legislators in Arizona
McCain always opposed the federal holiday, but changed his position to support the state holiday and lobbied heavily to get it passed. You can say that he flip-flopped on the issue, but it's not a lie for him to say that he supported the holiday. - amightywind, on 08/03/2008, -11/+6I am strongly opposed to MLK day. He is a hero, but most definitely one on the second tier. I want Washington's birthday and Lincoln's birthday back.
- dagnabbit, on 08/03/2008, -2/+4gee what a surprise coming from a racist moron like yourself
"I don't know if he is too thin, but he is too liberal and too muslim." BTW how can people muster the energy to be "strongly opposed to MLK day" or any other holiday. Get a ***** life.- amightywind, on 08/03/2008, -6/+3That quote was bigoted, not racist. There is a difference. I reject the moral and spiritual values of islam. If you cannot muster the energy to reject political correctness and revisionist history, I feel sorry for you.
- dagnabbit, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2He's a Christian, idiot. But keep your head in the sand if it makes you happy. McCain is still going to lose in a blowout.
- sjm20k, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1So hypocritical wind - you reject "revolutionist theory" yet want George Washington, a famous revolutionary, to have a holiday of his own? I feel sorry for you for being so damn vapid all the time. You really need to THINK!
All of the logical problems in your argument aside, brushing off the civil rights movement as "second tier" is pretty racist, *****.
I really hate that you always speak from rhetoric or blind speculation and never from experience. You pollute intelligent discussion.
- bacchante, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1Amen, ***** blacks.
- dagnabbit, on 08/03/2008, -2/+4gee what a surprise coming from a racist moron like yourself
- tehknotte, on 08/03/2008, -2/+4He never said that he voted for it. Maybe at the time he thought the national holiday wasn't needed.
- seth556, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Amen. Why does everyone take something and make it seem like something completely different. At a speech thing here in Orlando he was asked about why he voted against the creation of the holiday and he simply said "because I was wrong." Nowhere in this video did he say he voted for the creation or pushed the creation.
- soulonice, on 08/03/2008, -7/+2Ok, let's get this straight so i don't have to explain it again:
In the first half of the 1980s then Arizona Gov. Bruce Babbitt approved and enacted an annual MLK state observance and holiday in a manner that was illegal according to Arizona constitution. His successor Evan Mecham struck down the action and took away the holiday, saying a taxpayer-supported holiday should be approved by a public vote. He was bound by law to do so, its enactment was an illegal executive order on Babbitt's part. This caused Arizona politicians to take sides on the issue. McCain took side with those who wanted a public vote.
Okay? OKAY?
Sheesh.- dagnabbit, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3Umm what about creating the federal holiday?
In 1983, McCain opposed creating a federal holiday in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr. The House vote was 338-90 and President Reagan signed the bill into law later that year,[242] creating Martin Luther King, Jr. Day.
-wikipedia - Speaf, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1Wow, look at the facts get buried. Obama supporters are getting so desperate.
- dagnabbit, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3Umm what about creating the federal holiday?
- senatorpjt, on 08/03/2008, -2/+3Well, as it turns out, this isn't entirely a lie. McCain didn't support a MLK holiday as late as 1987, but before Arizona recognized MLK day, McCain had in fact already changed his position on it, and DID lend it significant support by 1990, leading to its eventual recognition in the state by 1992.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/th ... - southwestnut, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2Digg seems so quick to check mccain;s "flip flops" what of obama's?
headline in the paper I got today: "Obama would agree to change his stance on offshore drilling to fund alternative fuels"
Who flip flops now?- cquinnd, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1How is being willing to reconsider your position a flip-flop?
We are talking about saying one thing one day, then saying something different the next and expecting everyone to pretend they never made the first statement. - southwestnut, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1on the logic you presented, how is mccain flip floping?
for obama, he is spineless and will not stick to his guns. Do you want someone as a leader that will pander to the masses or someone who can make a choice in the face of opposition(mccain)?
seems simple to me- aurorazz, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1I want someone who can still think...McCain is toooo old has mush for brains. Don't want his finger on the "button".
- southwestnut, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1and you want obama's on the button instead? obama does not think, he simply follows what the masses want him to do
- cquinnd, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1How is being willing to reconsider your position a flip-flop?
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