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MD Pledged Delegate Switches Sides, Endorses Obama
washingtonpost.com — Prince George's County Executive Jack B. Johnson, a Democratic convention delegate pledged to support Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, said yesterday that he thinks Sen. Barack Obama has 'in a real sense' won the Democratic nomination and that he now plans to support Obama at the August convention.
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- kelalo, on 05/13/2008, -2/+66Well, I guess he took Clinton at her word when she said that pledged delegates are free to switch sides.
- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -1/+19Update!
Total
....Delegates: 3253
....SuperDelegates: 795
....Overall: 4048
Simple Majority: 2025
Standings
....Obama
........Delegates: 1591.5
........SDs: 283
........Overall: 1874.5
........Needed: 150.5
....Clinton
........Delegates: 1425.5
........SDs: 270.5
........Overall: 1696
........Needed: 329
....Remainder
........Delegates: 236
........SDs: 241.5
........Overall: 477.5
Projected
....Obama: 115
....Clinton: 103
....Needed SD's
....Obama: 36 (15%)
....Clinton: 226 (94%)
....Needed results in remaining contests for Delegate Tie:
....Clinton: 207 (76%)
....Obama: 29 (24%)- dagamer34, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7It's like taking that last final you don't really need but want to walk out 10 minutes after getting it just to make everyone else in the room go "WTF?"
- Fordi, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1I don't understand.
- dagamer34, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7It's like taking that last final you don't really need but want to walk out 10 minutes after getting it just to make everyone else in the room go "WTF?"
- headzoo, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9Thankfully Obama isn't the type to take the low road just because the other candidate is taking it. I'm an Obama supporter, but I think it's wrong for a pledged delegate to cast aside the will of the people, and do whatever they feel like.
Just more proof that this whole delegate system is messed up.- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Besides, he doesn't need to. In WV, the projected win for Clinton is around a 33 point spread. Compared to the 76% she needs to even *gain ground*, WV and all remaining contests are going to be a wash for her.
- jgzman, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1I concur. I hate to say it, but I hope Obama tells him to 'vote his duty' not his heart, or some such noise.
- Lukesed, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Exactly the same thing happened on an episode of Boston Legal two weeks ago. Pledged delegate switched from Clinton to Obama because he didn't agree with his state.
- ben_nushmut, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4And it was allowed to stand (in the episode) because the DNC is a private organization and can essentially do whatever it wants. I support Obama, but I believe the pledged delegates should be required to vote for the candidate their district chose, until the candidate releases them to vote freely. But then that makes sense, unlike the clear implication here that our individual votes ultimately mean nothing. And we wonder why people get so cynical about our electoral system...
- burnblue, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3He shouldn't do this. This is not the democratic way. He represents people's votes.
- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -1/+19Update!
- obamabranch, on 05/13/2008, -17/+8Uhm! Jack's an asre here in MD. I'm sure this is a calculated step up the career ladder for him. And who cares, he first agreed to support Obama, however when it was made known to the public he flipped and said, he was supporting HRC and had from the beginning. Now he wants to jump on the wagon again. Sorry pal, but unless you've persuaded the uncommits SDs in MD to follow your lead and support Obama,
I'll make sure to remind people of your duplicity, when you make your next career move. Disappointed in P.G.!.- talonstriker, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2I also live in PG County (Greenbelt) and I assure Obamaniacs that having Jack Johnson on your side isn't something to be proud of. Knowing him, someone probably bribed him to get him to switch sides. I'm not implying that Obama or his associates bribed him, I'm just pointing out that he is a shady character.
- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2I am Jack's colon. I get cancer, Jack drops dead.
- Shiftgood, on 05/13/2008, -16/+9Seriously... Obama Camp.... lets just post some of the more important stories... this is getting a little tiring.
that being said... Obama 08- BrendanSheehan, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2Yeah, who cares about those Supers anyway. They serve no purpose. /sarcasm
P.S. Digg/townhall = Why no mention of the fact that Safari doesn't work on digg. Yet it was the first browser to past the Acid3 test? It works on all other sites. Eh Kevin?- cg4et, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1This isn't about a superdelegate. This is a pledged delegate who has decided to vote counter to the popular vote that elected him.
- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1I don't really mind; each change requires an adjustment of my standing figures, so the notification is appreciated.
- BrendanSheehan, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2Yeah, who cares about those Supers anyway. They serve no purpose. /sarcasm
- MystDarkarma, on 05/13/2008, -29/+4I'm so sick and tired of seeing Obama this, Hillary that. Does it make you feel good when I say I'm just gonna not vote because of all of this sensationalist *****? I'm literally brought to exhaustion by hearing both of their names in the same sentence any more. Digg used to have a lot of REAL news on it with REAL content. And now theres nothing. Congratulations, you've ruined digg.
- tjbeyerl, on 05/13/2008, -0/+23http://digg.com/settings/topics
Uncheck 2008 US Elections. Problem solved.- makenshin, on 05/13/2008, -1/+7So many people who wished they knew that long ago. I on the other hand, like to know what is going on in the 2008 elections on all sides.
- crazyjake, on 05/13/2008, -0/+13well, seeing as how this election determines the future of the US, and has a major impact on the world in general, these stories are moderately important. Informed voters are some of the most valuable assests america has. but i guess you are only concerned with more pressing matters like half naked pictures of Hannah Montana. Sorry that Digg is dissapointing you with articles about topics that acutally matter.
/rant done- Mejari, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8I agree. Elections are important and we need to- wait, did you say naked pictures of Hannah Montana?
- xrant, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4I'm Canadian and even I know the importance of not electing a Bush clone like Hillary. I agree that Digg is Obama this and that but hell yeah, about time there was some good news and not Bush did this, Bush did that. Like tjbeyerl said above, uncheck us elections in your settings and voila, problem solved.
GO 'BAMA!
- tjbeyerl, on 05/13/2008, -0/+23http://digg.com/settings/topics
- trackerbishop, on 05/13/2008, -11/+12funny how if an obama super delegate switched there would be an uproar, since they arent really supposed to switch are they?
just saying- jamesLankford, on 05/13/2008, -3/+9you obviously don't understand what a super delegate is
- trackerbishop, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1hurt me more!!!!!
- makenshin, on 05/13/2008, -0/+10This is a Pledged candidate they are talking about, not a Super delegate. I believe this is the first time I've seen a story about a pledged delegate switching for this election.
- Mejari, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4It wasn't a super-delegate, it was a regular delegate.
- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6Pledged delegates have the option to switch under the bylaws. Mind you, then end their chances of reelection if their public disagrees with that decision.
- OffPiste, on 05/13/2008, -28/+4God help us. Sharia law looks to be inevitable. TIme to start stockpiling guns and ammo.
- Fordi, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8Poe.
- natchiketa, on 05/13/2008, -1/+11wtf are you talking about? he's. not. a. muslim. were you kidding? god help you get some brains.
- headzoo, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7Don't feed the trolls!
- Barackalypse, on 05/13/2008, -7/+5And this is why it doesn't matter what pledges the delegates have made, they can and will change their minds. If they'll do it now in public, why wouldn't they do it in a vote?
- WilliamDavis, on 05/13/2008, -7/+2Hillary knows that Obama will be stunned at the convention. That's why she's still running.
- Barackalypse, on 05/14/2008, -3/+0I hope they get the reaction to that on tape, it will be like 10,000 of that crazy chick crying about leaving Brittany alone. "Racists, leave Obama alone!" Hopefully it will cause all the naive little liberals to lose heart and never believe in another candidate again.
- WilliamDavis, on 05/13/2008, -7/+2Hillary knows that Obama will be stunned at the convention. That's why she's still running.
- antiorblkflag9, on 05/13/2008, -3/+8Whew, glad my state is starting see reason...
- antipro, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4I'm surprised he even supported Clinton in the first place given the decent sized african american community in PG County
- trackerbishop, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2im surprised. your state has so many blacks.
- sup3rnautx, on 05/14/2008, -0/+0hellz yes terps for obama!
- headzoo, on 05/13/2008, -5/+43I'm a strong Obama supporter, but this is f'd up. This is why the delegate system is wrong, wrong, wrong. Thousands of people have had their vote thrown in the trash.
- BrendanSheehan, on 05/13/2008, -1/+13Since they voted for Clinton it was already in the trash.
- Plantagenet, on 05/14/2008, -1/+6Hillary gets the white trash vote, so Obama has to get all the thinking people.
- div2n, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2More than the delegate system, the long drawn out primary system is flawed. There is wisdom in not holding all votes on the same day, but a few here and a few there is insane.
Split them up into regions and have a bunch of mini-Super Tuesday's with close to the same number of delegates up for grabs each time so that it won't necessarily be decided early, but can be if the choice is obvious. - Rendonsmug, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7Dugg. I voted for Obama in the Texas primary and most likely I'll vote for him in November, but this is not cool.
- dzw120, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1I somewhat agree; however, by now, the race is effectively (mathematically) over. These delegates are doing the Democratic party a favor by accelerating the inevitable.
- W00DR0W, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1As far as I can see the super-delegates aren't doing their jobs at all, they're supposed to stop the party from getting deadlocked in the event of a bloody battle between candidates like with carter and kennedy right?
So why haven't they all switched to Obama's side by now? He can't lose, so their only job should be to stop Hilary's destructive efforts.
They were a stupid idea to begin with, but now that we have them, they're not even doing their job.
- brownrecluse888, on 05/13/2008, -13/+2Its unfortunate that us Democrats are going to blow it again just like the last 2 elections. The Obama fan boys are so fanatic in their beliefs that they are alienating the very people that they need to win the election(the clinton supporters). Read this from today:
The West Virginia exit polls show more sobering news for Democrats about the deepening division within the party.
We asked the voters whether each candidate shared their values.
Among Barack Obama supporters, 62 percent said Hillary Clinton does not share their values while just 37 percent said she does.
The number is even more staggering among Clinton supporters: nearly 70 percent of her voters say Obama does not share their vales while just 30 percent say he does.
We're getting over 60 percent of the supporters of each candidate saying the other candidate does not share our values – which could spell trouble for the Democrats as they try to unite the party for the general election.
Sobering news for the Dems indeed....- Plantagenet, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2Obama doesn't need the votes of white trash and hillbillies from West Virginia to win.
- brownrecluse888, on 05/14/2008, -2/+1Really? The last 2 elections, just like this one will most likely hinge on one or two key states. WV? Probably not. But if Obama can't bring the majority of the Clinton supporters to his side he can't win. Its basic math. I'm voting for Obama but I'm just amazed at how ignorant many of you Obama fan boys are. Really sad and discouraging. I just can't stand the thought of another 8 years of bush style politics. You have to look beyond your fanatical obsession with Obama and look at the cold hard facts. Obama will win or loose the general election by a tiny margin, I'm hoping he wins. Its simpletons like you that are alienating the clinton supporters(its nearly half of the democratic party Einstein!!) and are handing McCain the white house. Great Job. Now go polish your Ron Paul poster.....
- cadmiumpaint, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3West Virginia is HARDLY a realistic gage of the national democratic party. It has no major Urban centers (compared to Baltimore, D.C. and Philly which are all in the region) This is a state that is overwhelmingly blue collar, Church going, uneducated, working class, white conservative democrat. This is a very niche state, and is an anomaly for the Democratic party
Go spread your Fox News propaganda somewhere else.- brownrecluse888, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3I'll save this post for when President McCain is sworn in. I'm voting for Obama dumb *****!! I'm just pointing out the obvious. I cannot honestly believe how fanatical some Obama supporters are, its truly unreal. Which part of my post do you not agree with? Its almost certain that Obama will win the primary, BUT even the Obama camp knows and repeatedly says they need the majority of the Clinton voters to back him. Did you not follow the last 2 elections?
You Obama nut bags are so anti clinton that you can't see the obvious. Try reading a book or doing some research.- cadmiumpaint, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2From the tone of your post you seemed to be a GOP fanboy using WV stats as the reason why Obama will loose the general election. Today's vote tells us nothing. it is a niche state with an odd demographic for Dems. The majority of Clinton supporters will roll over to Obama if he gets the nod and vice versa. People are Dems first and they'd gladly have either or before they vote for McCain or not vote at all. Obama needs a strong VP candidate that can bridge the gaps in his demographic and he'll be fine.
The only fanatic I see on here is you. Get a llife. - EtherGnat, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2It's a heated, highly contested race. There is no surprise it's created temporary division in the party. Most of that will likely go away once the party finally has an official candidate. Don't forget that McCain is a controversial figure in the Republican party as well. All the Republican talk show hosts trashed him, many people said they'd rather have a liberal in the office, etc.. Will all those people stay home or vote Democrat? Nope.
It will likely be a close race, and people shouldn't be too cocky, but you're making too big a deal over divisiveness in the Democratic party.
- cadmiumpaint, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2From the tone of your post you seemed to be a GOP fanboy using WV stats as the reason why Obama will loose the general election. Today's vote tells us nothing. it is a niche state with an odd demographic for Dems. The majority of Clinton supporters will roll over to Obama if he gets the nod and vice versa. People are Dems first and they'd gladly have either or before they vote for McCain or not vote at all. Obama needs a strong VP candidate that can bridge the gaps in his demographic and he'll be fine.
- brownrecluse888, on 05/14/2008, -2/+1I'm saving this post for the day McCain is sworn in......Your ignorance is overwhelming.....The point is that we need the VAST majority of clinton supporters to back Obama, and every exit poll shows that is not going to happen. I'm sure your right, that once Obama gets the nod that many clinton supporters will back Obama, but you Obama Fan Girlies who keep blasting clinton and her supporters will do nothing more than keep them at home on polling day.
You say: "The majority of Clinton supporters will roll over to Obama"
So if by some crazy situation Clinton gets the nomination you'll vote for her? I'm guessing not, and many clinton supporters feel the same way.
What are you 21 years old? You must have not been around during the last 2 elections. Or you were home drinking wine coolers writing love letters to Ron Paul....- cadmiumpaint, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1you're a f@cking idiot. nuff said.
- brownrecluse888, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3I'll save this post for when President McCain is sworn in. I'm voting for Obama dumb *****!! I'm just pointing out the obvious. I cannot honestly believe how fanatical some Obama supporters are, its truly unreal. Which part of my post do you not agree with? Its almost certain that Obama will win the primary, BUT even the Obama camp knows and repeatedly says they need the majority of the Clinton voters to back him. Did you not follow the last 2 elections?
- Plantagenet, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2Obama doesn't need the votes of white trash and hillbillies from West Virginia to win.
- louiebaur, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2This just keeps on going and going and will continue can't wait to read more about obama and hillary
- Bkaufman, on 05/13/2008, -11/+2Hey guess what Obama Supporters? all of your Hillary bashing is torpedoing your campaign!!! Obama is following in the footsteps of past far left wing candidates that have beaten moderates in the primary: (think Dukakis, Michael). And all the Hillary supporters are going to vote for Mccain!!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/13/wv.primary/ ...- Plantagenet, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2Hillary and her Hillbillie voters are going down.
- vinnyvenus, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Since 1916 no democrat has won white house without winning West Virginia. I think that state is pretty important to democrats even if Obama doesn't acknowledge it.
- Rendonsmug, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2"With the exception of the time it foolishly cast its lot with Adlai Stevenson in 1956, in every presidential election since 1900 Missouri has proudly voted for the winner."
Don't read too much into trends like that. They can be cool, but its not the best Idea to extrapolate stuff like that with something as important as a nomination. - br0ck, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4No democrat has ever lost DC like she did and won the White House either. Comparisons like that are just ridiculous.
- Rendonsmug, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2"With the exception of the time it foolishly cast its lot with Adlai Stevenson in 1956, in every presidential election since 1900 Missouri has proudly voted for the winner."
- vinnyvenus, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Since 1916 no democrat has won white house without winning West Virginia. I think that state is pretty important to democrats even if Obama doesn't acknowledge it.
- Plantagenet, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2Hillary and her Hillbillie voters are going down.
- Xihix, on 05/13/2008, -3/+6It's believable the moment you hear it if it's regarding Obama... But when I told people on Digg months ago that Paul supporters would try to do pretty much the same thing, I was just ridiculed. I suspect many Diggers don't really understand the actual delegate process.
- EtherGnat, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Is it possible a delegate or two could flip for Paul? Of course, but delegates are much more likely to flip for a winning candidate. Nobody likes to be associated with a loser.
- KLBP, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1You are right about most people not understanding how the process works. Sadly this part of American civics all too often is taught in a boring and incomplete way.
- booshack, on 05/13/2008, -0/+15I'm an Obama supporter, but this is just idiotic, and will do nothing but further help Clinton argue that pledged delegates can just switch to her at the convention.
- superkendall, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5If she's correct, and then can, then why is it such a bad point to make?
- EtherGnat, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1Lots of things are possible, but not things we want our elected leaders to encourage. They're called pledged delegates for a reason--they've pledged to support a specific candidate and that's why they've been chosen. Going back on that pledge rather than representing the people in your district is sleazy. Encouraging pledge delegates to do so is even more sleazy IMO.
- superkendall, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5If she's correct, and then can, then why is it such a bad point to make?
- RockMuncher, on 05/13/2008, -1/+15I'm a Canadian, so I really have no say in your election (but I prefer Obama anyway). I'm also consistently baffled by your system... though I imagine the reverse is just as true (Bloc Québécois FTW!).
However, it strikes me as a *very* bad idea for any delegates who are 'encouraged' to vote the way their districts and people have voted to suddenly switch candidates. I thought that was what superdelegates were for... to break a tie in the event of two strong candidates, without ignoring (much) the voting public's opinions. It just seems like a big old 'screw you, you don't know what you're talking about!' towards their own voters... which isn't likely to get them elected again.- KLBP, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2Actually, the system we have now is the closest the American citizen has ever had to being able to directly elect the President. Originally voters had virtually no direct influence on who was the nominee for each party.
- AZRoboto, on 05/13/2008, -1/+20What happened to Democracy? He is a pledged delegate. The people elected him to vote for Hillary.
No matter how much I like Obama, this is simply unforgivable.- EtherGnat, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2I agree with you (see my other posts) but keep in mind the Democratic and Republican parties are private organizations. They can choose who they wish to support in an election using whatever method they want. If it happens to resemble democracy it's only by choice.
- PamalaLauren, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Remember when everyone bitched about Ron Paul spam? Seriously people there's a way to avoid this stuff, use it.
- mycoplasma, on 05/13/2008, -0/+12I hate Hillary Clinton, but i still think this is insane. pledged delegates should vote for who they are pledged to vote for. This guy needs to realize that he's not a superdelegate. If he can switch from Hillary to Obama, then there's no reason that other delegates cant switch from Obama to Hillary, and that is undermining democracy.
Also, we'll probably soon be seeing some really stupid speech from hillary very soon in which she cries about how she thinks the election is rigged, and I REALLY dont want to have to deal with that. - Plantagenet, on 05/14/2008, -1/+11Obama better tell this guy to vote as he is pledged by his primary results, or Clinton will use this as an excuse to raid the Obama pledged delegates.
- dmcbride6, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3You don't think she's been trying?
- KLBP, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Early on Clinton said she would try to steal Obama pledged delegates. This is part of how the system is set up to be run. In the past, the "will of the people" had even less influence on who would become the party nominee. Party rules allow pledged delegates to switch.
- superkendall, on 05/14/2008, -4/+2It's great one switched to Obama, so that people from Digg can realize the rediculousness of asserting anyone has a "numerical advantage of pledged delegates". If any of them can switch, any time (which they can) any supposed advantage in that regard is somewhat illusory.
I think most of the people pledged for Obama will stay, but you should never declare something certain when it's not actually certain.- EtherGnat, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2A few pledged delegates switching is nothing new. Enough to swing this election would be unheard of though.
- Hangly, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Can't we call it yet?
- Dimbleby, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5I agree....he better stick to his pledged guns...this could end up nasty.
/obama 08!! - zephc, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Something else that I don't think anyone has noted is that he also changed his vote because he feels Obama has a better chance of winning, in effect voting for the most popular instead of voting by who has the best policies (although, as others pointed out, he is a pledge delegate and already has his vote committed to HRC). I think she is a *****, but people who vote should vote on principles, not popularity, and representatives of a voting block should vote based on those they represent, not on whatever they feel like.
- turbonium, on 05/14/2008, -3/+3I'm getting sick of all this Digg Obama crap. He should support the person he was elected and entrusted to support. I don't care if that is Hillary (best choice for a head to head against McCain).
- Joo52, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3This all makes a ton of sense seeing that 79% of the vote in the primary in PG county went to Obama. I live here and I can attest to how much Obama support there is here. The county plays host to the University of Maryland campus and the rest of the county's population is predominantly black. No surprises here.
- CashflowGenie, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2It is still so interesting to me that the people who have such hateful things to say about Obama just repeat what the TV pundits have repeatedly told them to say. I guess that's why Hillary is going after the uneducated Americans because she and Bill can manipulate you into saying and doing anything they want. Watch her as she points and shakes her finger at you when she is talking to you like you are children, telling you what she is going to do for you. Huh Huh Huh!
Obama on the other hand speaks of all Americans working together to bring change for our country. Nothing personal. But if there are more uneducated voters than educated, then I guess Hillary or John do have the advantage and America will get what it deserves, a continuation of white hatred, discrimination and worldwide disgrace.
Think about the children, not just yourselves, Hillary and John are old people trying to hold onto what they have instead of stepping aside and passing the torch. America needs new blood in the government, Obama will bring new people with new ideas and ways to better the country. Let's be for change, not more of the same. As an older person, I say "Go Obama, challenge America, we need it!" - drschloss, on 05/14/2008, -1/+5I'm an Obama supporter here and I just wanted to post a little comment directed at those people that are shunning this guy for switching sides. I live in Prince George's county, I voted in the primary for Obama and when my county rocked that pesky Clinton 94,741 votes to 23,965 I was thrilled. I'm more surprised to find out that there were any Clinton supporting delegates in my county when she got put under the table by 59 points.
- Andyschism, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1I agree, this has always boggled my mind.
- dmcbride6, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5I can't wait to vote for Obama...but I must be missing something here...doesn't the fact he is a pledged delegate mean he is representing the votes from the people?
It just doesnt seem right for pledged delegates to switch endorsements based off of what they feel is right - it isnt their endorsement to switch.- KLBP, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1When you vote in a primary, you are actually voting for which side gets to choose who the pledged delegate will be that will represent you at the national convention. You are not actually voting for a candidate. What you have to hope for is that the chosen delegate remains loyal to the candidate they were pledged for. Of course if the candidate starts doing things that raise concerns for the pledged delegates (e.g. Hillary's pandering and stirring up race as an issue) they those loyalties might be strained to the breaking point.
In a way this is a good thing because the primary process is very long and pledged delegates being able to change who they vote for at the convention helps keep the candidate accountable to the voters in states that voted early.
- KLBP, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1When you vote in a primary, you are actually voting for which side gets to choose who the pledged delegate will be that will represent you at the national convention. You are not actually voting for a candidate. What you have to hope for is that the chosen delegate remains loyal to the candidate they were pledged for. Of course if the candidate starts doing things that raise concerns for the pledged delegates (e.g. Hillary's pandering and stirring up race as an issue) they those loyalties might be strained to the breaking point.
- yunus, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Slippery slope and stupid rule. Delegates should be bound to their candidate. In the case of something crazy like death of a candidate or they go crazy or go to jail or something drastic happens the DNC chairman and a committee should vote to allow delegates who are bound to that specific candidate to change votes.
- Burnse, on 05/14/2008, -4/+2You are all a bunch of sheep supporting CFR Member A or CFR Member B
Why don't you guys get a grip, and take a look at the country, I mean really take a look.
Turn off the damn TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPlvdSQ6cAM
Mike Huckabee Advisor President of the CFR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN4bqvuchNs
Huckabee Heckled in N.H MUST SEE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brahQNVy9ss- dupe, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Sheep? And your solution to turning off the TV is YouTube...? Pfff.
- WikiEasy, on 05/14/2008, -3/+1More ObamaSPAM
- oldcyborg, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1The longer it goes, the better it gets..... But worry about the American People, as they can be really fickle... Or at least, this has been my experience...... :)
Cyborg
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