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Hillary Has Not Passed All That Legislation She Touts
boston.com — Hillary Clinton, who has frequently described herself on the campaign trail as playing a pivotal role in forging a children's health insurance plan, had little to do with crafting the landmark legislation or ushering it through Congress, according to several lawmakers, staffers, and healthcare advocates involved in the issue.
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- defska42, on 03/15/2008, -9/+57Well, obviously. But Hilary's uneducated voters believe the "Solutions" catchphrase...because it is just so witty, isn't it?
- Iconoclast25, on 03/15/2008, -16/+15On one hand "solutions" and the other "change! hope!" . . . but both as hollow and calculating as the ones mouthing the slogans.
- RepubOperative, on 03/15/2008, -19/+4http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,35 ...
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/080309_obama.htm
A year ago, March 1, 2007, Rev. Dr. Wright made an angry appearance on the Hannity & Colmes show on FoxNews. It represents one of the few times when someone very close to the old Obama has been directly challenged. The telecast attracted little attention—the discussion quickly devolved into almost incomprehensible crosstalk—but a careful reading of the transcript reveals much about the ideological underpinnings that helped bond Obama to Wright's church for the last 20 years.
Sean Hannity began by asking Wright about the "Black Value System" espoused by Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ. Wright responded:
WRIGHT: The black value system, which was developed by the congregation, by laypersons of the congregation, 26 years ago, very similar to the gospel (INAUDIBLE) developed by laypersons in Nicaragua during the whole liberation theology movement, 26, 28, 30 years ago, yes.
What exactly was going on in Nicaragua 26 to 30 years before this debate in 2007? Well, 1977-1981 were the years of the Marxist revolution in Nicaragua. The Soviet-allied Sandinistas made use of the "liberation theology" promoted by leftist Catholic clerics of the Jesuit and the Maryknoll orders. In fact, three radical liberation theology priests served in the Sandinista cabinet. During a dramatic 1983 visit to Managua, Pope John Paul II had to speak out sharply against liberation theology. He later suspended Marxist priests serving in the Sandinista regime.
So, the black liberation theology of Obama's church is, according to Obama's minister, "very similar" to the "liberation theology" espoused by old Marxist revolutionaries in Nicaragua.
Interesting. - jabberwolf, on 03/15/2008, -11/+6Wait your calling Hillary's voters uneducated when Obama's camp cant even add numbers or read headlines correctly?
But then again Obama has passed ooooo soo much. But to his defense, he's only been a senator for 2 terms (that's it, thats about all he has for his resume). That should be plently for a president, right?! - runCMD, on 03/15/2008, -8/+3You calling Hillary's supporters 'uneducated' serves the same god of truth as those that say Obama's supporters are 'college educated' What are they teaching in college these days ...
- rockdawg, on 03/16/2008, -1/+3Physics, multiple types of sciences as medicine, philosophy, ideologies, past governments philosophical policies and present ones.
You know things the Holy Bible tells you are evil.- runCMD, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1LOL. The Bible doesn't say that silly.
- rockdawg, on 03/16/2008, -1/+3Physics, multiple types of sciences as medicine, philosophy, ideologies, past governments philosophical policies and present ones.
- littlequeenie, on 03/15/2008, -7/+33I hope the moderator for the debate next month brings all this up and doesn't settle for spin in her answers. She has been going on and on about how she brought about SCHIP, peace in Northern Ireland, etc, etc.
WHY am I not hearing this every hour in the MSM??- Pillage, on 03/15/2008, -5/+2From what I can remember watching over the past day, It was on Anderson Cooper, Lou Dobbs, and Special Report w/ Britt Hume.
- Hillsfar, on 03/15/2008, -7/+36So if she really did all these things, how come we never heard of it until this late into the campaign trail? If it was true and if it was so great, we would have heard of it back during her husband's presidency, or during her Senate runs, wouldn't we?
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies... Tell me lies...
Bringing peace to Northern Ireland... but only as a "cheerleader", according to the Nobel Prize winner who actually negotiated it.
Opening the borders in Bosnia... with Sinbad and Sheryl Crow.
Passing the SCHIP children's health care... That Orrin Hatch and Ted Kennedy passed in Congress without her, that was OPPOSED by the Clinton White House!
Against NAFTA... but she was really for it repeated and repeatedly.
Answering that phone at 3 AM... only to hand it to Bill Clinton.- BlackJackJester, on 03/16/2008, -0/+2I really don't understand how they say someone wouldn't be ready to answer a phone at 3am? Heck, i got drunk called at 3am yesterday and picked it up. Its not hard.
- chronically420, on 03/15/2008, -7/+27and she ***** wonders why the media is slamming her so much? well if she didnt ***** ***** up and over exaggerate her role in things, MAYBE THEY WOULDNT. and they reason why they "craddle" obama is because they cant really find much in the way of dirty politics with him. with hillary you might as well compare her dirty politics to an overflowing dump site...hell even the dump site might pale in comparison
- Stevanoski, on 03/15/2008, -32/+9Bet all you here on digg back her when she wins through the corrupt super delegate system Dem.s have set up. Why don't Dem.s just trust in the people and let them pick their candidate? Is it because they never have really bought into the idea of Democracy?
- Acewrap, on 03/15/2008, -8/+16Go ***** yourself troll. No one has subverted democracy more in the past decade than the republicans.
- topgigmedia, on 03/15/2008, -8/+10Neo-con trolls a rare but still very annoying breed here on Digg. Might I suggest that you go kindly bend back over and reburry your head in the sand sir?
- Stevanoski, on 03/15/2008, -8/+2Neither one of you answered my question. Why did the Dem.s set up the corrupt system of Super Delegates. The only answer can be they don't trust the people to pick the right candidate. i.e. They do not really buy into the idea of democracy. Can you do something besides name call or snide quips? Can you answer even one of the questions I've posed?
- bitspace, on 03/16/2008, -1/+6You're probably not even aware that the Republicans have a similar system. The difference is that for the Republican party, this year they account for about 5% of the Republican delegates, while they account for roughly 20% of the Democratic delegates. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(Uni ...
Having said that, there are many people who don't think that the system of unpledged delegates is fair or democratic. I can see both sides of that debate, personally, but my conscience tells me that the pledged delegate count should be what determines the candidate.- Stevanoski, on 03/16/2008, -1/+1bits, thank you for your reply
- bitspace, on 03/16/2008, -1/+6You're probably not even aware that the Republicans have a similar system. The difference is that for the Republican party, this year they account for about 5% of the Republican delegates, while they account for roughly 20% of the Democratic delegates. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(Uni ...
- kingbling169, on 03/15/2008, -16/+3http://youtube.com/watch?v=rYpz3rDfACM
- mkling176, on 03/15/2008, -23/+7obligatory Obama 08 comment
- cinematiks, on 03/15/2008, -11/+4seconded
- hansonc, on 03/15/2008, -6/+1and yet neither was necessary
- cinematiks, on 03/15/2008, -11/+4seconded
- br0wnstar, on 03/15/2008, -13/+2Hillary is the doubleviking.com of presidential candidates.
- mexicanpower, on 03/15/2008, -20/+4I've said it before and I'll say it again, but I really think it's time for a Mexican president to lead the USA. Concerning healthcare, Mexico is attempting to implement a universal healthcare system, so if they can do it then a Mexican can lead the USA to do it too. A Mexican (in my opinion) would also handle foreign affiars better and solve the immigration problem fast. Hopefully we'll get a Mexican president someday.. the day the US is finally liked by the world (including Mexico) again.
- forsight, on 03/15/2008, -8/+1Mexico has Mayan and Aztec history, these people are kind and truthful...then white man like everything else ***** it up. ps I am white so I am not being racist, simply stating a fact
- cheezintern, on 03/15/2008, -1/+3if you call sacrificing 10's of thousands of people kind...
- shig, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3Truthful, maybe... but compulsory labor(slavery) for every citizen, years in the lime pits, is not what I would consider "kind".
- shig, on 03/15/2008, -8/+1The day a Mexican scumbag leads the United States is the day I march on Washington. Unfortunately, the day some Mexican suggests that I should be lead by another Mexican happens to be the day I march on Mexico City...
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -1/+2Hehe.
Yeah the mexicans sure have done a bang up job with their own country. Now they want america too because they're running out of walls to spray paint on.
- forsight, on 03/15/2008, -8/+1Mexico has Mayan and Aztec history, these people are kind and truthful...then white man like everything else ***** it up. ps I am white so I am not being racist, simply stating a fact
- Malvolio421, on 03/15/2008, -20/+6Once again, Digg shows it's bias. I don't know if you heard, but Obama's preacher is a racist. Maybe that news should be making it's way to digg again and again like the Hillary Bashing always does.
- easy4lif, on 03/15/2008, -11/+4this is the same ***** that happened with Ron Paul. don't worry, their bubble will burst as did Ron Paul's fanatics.
- NelsonR, on 03/15/2008, -4/+3Hillary's supporters have been caught in this type of sleaze campaign. Is that all you have? Every candidate could be falsely judged by the friends you have and Hillary proves it. Did you know Hillary gets more lobbyist and special interest money than any Democrat or Republican who has run this time for office. Yet you think she will conduct change, get a life.
- forsight, on 03/15/2008, -4/+1do you believe everything you read? let me guess grade 12 equivalent?
- EricCiccone, on 03/15/2008, -3/+5Obama's preacher said some sketchy things regarding race relations, that does NOT mean that Obama is racist in any shape or form. Only an idiot would make that connection. Hilary's campaign is jumping at every chance it has to stop Obama's momentum, this is senseless and despicable.
I'm sure you agree with everything your preacher says though, I bet your preacher is perfect right? Can you remember everything your preacher has said in your years at a church?- Malvolio421, on 03/15/2008, -6/+3I'm an atheist. But if I did have a spiritual advisor for 20 years, I'd hope that he had more respect for human life and not think that the people of 9/11 "had it comin'".
As for special interest money, who cares? Take their money and do what you want. As for change... she's a Democrat and a liberal... that's good enough for me. Oh and you get two presidents for the price of one. I like that. - jabberwolf, on 03/15/2008, -4/+3Your right, even though his preacher is a racist, that does not mean Obama is.
Even though Obama had that same preacher for 20 ***** YEARS - and he never knew?
GIVE ME A ***** BREAK !
- Malvolio421, on 03/15/2008, -6/+3I'm an atheist. But if I did have a spiritual advisor for 20 years, I'd hope that he had more respect for human life and not think that the people of 9/11 "had it comin'".
- EricCiccone, on 03/15/2008, -2/+6I'm not Christian malvolio, but I was eluding to the fact that even if Obama's preacher is "racist" it doesn't make Obama racist. To say that that story should be making the front page is ridiculous, its a baseless story, it has no merit or worth in this election.
- Malvolio421, on 03/15/2008, -6/+0I've seen alot of crap just and unjust thrown at Hillary on this site. Just seems like piling on for a bunch of people who have similar beliefs. I'm just tired of it.
Will I vote for Obama if he gets the nom? Of course. I'm just really tired of this Civil War.- EricCiccone, on 03/16/2008, -0/+3Agreed, but if you don't like the stories against Hillary, don't take it out on Obama, he's not submitting them ;)
- Malvolio421, on 03/15/2008, -6/+0I've seen alot of crap just and unjust thrown at Hillary on this site. Just seems like piling on for a bunch of people who have similar beliefs. I'm just tired of it.
- Gerz1219, on 03/15/2008, -2/+3All preachers say nutty things, because all organized religion is insane. It is impossible for an atheist or agnostic person to become president, so any viable presidential candidate will have an insane preacher. Because that's what a preacher is. An insane person. Doesn't mean Obama believes every word the preacher says. Only that he chose a preacher who says insane things about race instead of insane things about homosexuality, gender equality, or abortion.
- bitspace, on 03/16/2008, -0/+2Yes, Pastor Wright is a fire-and-brimstone preacher for sure. He's repeatedly said some incendiary and racist things. Senator Obama has also responded to the growing concern in a piece he wrote for The Huffington Post, "Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-f ...
The fit hits the shan, Obama wastes no time in stepping up to the plate and addressing it immediately and with no uncertainty. - ryan83189, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1i don't recall obama's preacher being his running mate.
- easy4lif, on 03/15/2008, -18/+8yet another hillary is the devil post, this is getting old fast.
and no I'm not voting for her, Obama, or McCain Their All worthless to me and I'd rather not vote for any of them this time.- forsight, on 03/15/2008, -4/+3dude, haven't you ever watched South Park's "Douche and Turd" Season 8 Episode 119
- WhereAmI, on 03/16/2008, -1/+2Good, don't vote. I don't want people that think like you to choose any candidate for any position.
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1Thats the spirit.
Apathy is glue that holds modern democracy together.
- winnestow, on 03/15/2008, -28/+4I'm a superdelegate. And the other day Barack HUSSEIN Obama's pastor told me there will be 72 virgins waiting for me in heaven if I'll only vote for Mr. Obama at the convention.
- forsight, on 03/15/2008, -6/+3no luck with the ladies..sad
- NelsonR, on 03/15/2008, -4/+7You are no super delegate but you are though a super bigot!!
- felman87, on 03/15/2008, -2/+4Bill OReilly, is that you?
- Rhenthalin, on 03/16/2008, -1/+1Hey he told me that too
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1Awesome post. Now tell me how you really feel.
;)
- NelsonR, on 03/15/2008, -10/+4She has one quality, she's yet with Bill regardless of all his philandering. My, how the thought of power will corrupt the soul while having to put up with extreme embarrassment.
Forgot one, you do not have to divulge your tax returns along with Bill's donor list for his Library. What are they again hiding? - MortalynFlux, on 03/15/2008, -4/+15Exposure does not equal experience. Overhearing does not equal doing. If that is the case, then any clerk, intern, or chauffeur in the Whitehouse or in congress could run for president. Monica, Sinbad, and Sheryl would all be able to run on their own ticket.
- mal1964, on 03/15/2008, -8/+2"If You Tear It Down, They Will Come"
- dizilbdog, on 03/15/2008, -4/+14She is starting to be like the X girlfriend who keeps calling and emailing, and saying it will be different this time, it will all work out, ahhh no.. Time to quit Lady Clinton you had a nice run and that's me being polite...
- forsight, on 03/15/2008, -6/+21watch Micheal Moore's film "Sicko" to find out more about this shiester.
- BlackJackJester, on 03/16/2008, -2/+1That guy is 400 pounds of fail.
- FormatC, on 03/15/2008, -24/+5At least she doen's attend racist church sermons that are on par with a Nurenburg rally.
- rgersmrk, on 03/15/2008, -2/+8You should make Bill Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro aware of this preacher. They would fit in great with him.
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+3At least Baracks supporters dont stoop to dramatic race baiting and personal attacks on an opponent because their candidate is losing.
Although I suspect your not even a Hillary supporter. You sound more like a racist.
- shig, on 03/15/2008, -11/+1Who would have ever thought she was the ONLY big government socialist in Congress? Parish the thought, because it's literally full of them.
- 1view, on 03/15/2008, -4/+8That's pretty low of you FormatC, the words & beliefs of his pastor are a really weak thing to judge someone on
- forsight, on 03/15/2008, -4/+4I am glad someone has brains around here! kudos to you :)
- forsight, on 03/15/2008, -5/+5i think something is going on here..'diggers' are smarter than this...good one Billary...having people spam digg to make you look good.
why am I surprise, this is just like you- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1You noticed it to.
It might not be all hillary fanatics. Theres probley anti-barack racialists and possibly right-wing baiting. But there is definitely some spam goin on 'round here.
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1You noticed it to.
- junkwheel, on 03/15/2008, -4/+15She is still a monster.
- forsight, on 03/15/2008, -11/+4Hillary has nothing to offer but her douche in the trash
- RHandler, on 03/15/2008, -4/+6Summary of this shocking news: Hillary is just a politician.
- 1view, on 03/15/2008, -2/+2why do we continue to let mongrels run our country?
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1Apathy. The cornerstone of modern democracy.
- Enjia, on 03/15/2008, -10/+3you can still vote ron paul =P
- GenNove, on 03/15/2008, -4/+5Bitchola.
Please quit already Hillary. - p0s3r, on 03/15/2008, -16/+8Atleast she's not a racist America-hater like Barak.
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1She more of a racist coward, like you.
- jjmelch, on 03/15/2008, -2/+2Gee... Another Clinton lie?? No way, your kidding. These people need built-in lie detectors. Call Guinness. I need a beer.
- tomgsmyth, on 03/15/2008, -5/+3i remember back in 96'....man i really wanted health insurance for kids...i used to bitch and complain to everyone, telling them that the country really needs a plan for its youth... now that i think of it doesn't that qualify me for president...
me for president 08'
what a crock of *****. why does she think that her advocacy on issues translates to experience.- tomgsmyth, on 03/15/2008, -1/+1sorry i forgot /sarcasm
- NumNutz, on 03/15/2008, -9/+3mccain, obama and hillary are slime.....just right now, obama is the slimiest of them all with the wright and rezko *****. jesus, doesnt he realize he cant win the general election now?
- Megnluv8, on 03/16/2008, -0/+0Breaking news...Senator Obama answered 13 pages worth of questions from the Chicago Tribune on Friday about Tony Resko, and the conclusions was that nothing illegal happened between them. The transcript is available on the Chicago Tribune's website. Look it up!
- DaDrake, on 03/15/2008, -8/+2And then there is Obama.... who hasn't done ***** except tell people about the plan he plans to do in the near planned futured. =p
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1You sir are a scholar AND a poet.
Buried.
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1You sir are a scholar AND a poet.
- Pinhedd, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2So you mean to say that she did not infact name a whole bunch of post offices after people?
- jabberwolf, on 03/15/2008, -10/+5Great, Obama has barely passed ANYTHING he has legistlated for.
But then again to his defense, hes only been a senator ofor 2 terms - which is plenty for a president... right?- tomgsmyth, on 03/15/2008, -1/+6the point is she never legistated for it she advocated ....dick
- Megnluv8, on 03/16/2008, -0/+0I guess authoring and passing nuclear proliferation acts and ethics reform bills in the United States Senate does not mean much to you.
- RRJackson, on 03/15/2008, -6/+3Man, that's bad. And yet she's still going to get the nomination in Denver. Funny, huh?
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1Denvers a weird place. You see lots of cool ***** there, but lots of weird stuff to.
You cant never really figure out what denvers thinking.
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1Denvers a weird place. You see lots of cool ***** there, but lots of weird stuff to.
- dshey, on 03/15/2008, -3/+1Hillary has passed all the hot air she touts.
- joeyzr, on 03/15/2008, -3/+0Uh huh. Same point made in this article.
http://www.dallasobserver.com/2008-02-28/news/obam ... - runCMD, on 03/15/2008, -3/+2Come November it will be so nice to see all this moanin' end.
- Mrdudeperson, on 03/15/2008, -2/+2Don't worry, the closer we get to the election, the more and more of this ***** is going to come up about all the candidates.
- riseabove, on 03/15/2008, -1/+4MONSTER // LIAR
- Trails123, on 03/16/2008, -1/+2Hitlery (no typo) is a (credit-grabbing) legend in her own mind!
http://klintons.com - buddywlkr3, on 03/16/2008, -3/+1According to GovTrack, a Congressional monitoring service, the following is reported for Obama and Clinton:
Barack Obama has sponsored 129 bills since Jan 4, 2005, of which 120 haven't made it out of committee (Poor) and 1 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers). Obama has co-sponsored 555 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).
Hillary Clinton has sponsored 356 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 309 haven't made it out of committee (Extremely Poor) and 2 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers). Clinton has co-sponsored 1733 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).
Looks like Obama and Clinton have equally poor records.- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1Interesting stats, dont know why it was dugg down.
But even if they do have fairly equal records in congress I'd still rather vote for Obama because of the the difference in morals and behavior shown by them during their campaigns.
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1Interesting stats, dont know why it was dugg down.
- bennew11, on 03/16/2008, -0/+3hillary clinton is not a leader. nothing that she says is inspiring. i am sure that she would get some things done as president but a president has to be more than a mere bureaucrat. a president has to be a leader. people have to be willing to follow her without question.
- seejunaid, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1Now we all know about "The Clintons"
- StusGhost, on 03/16/2008, -0/+7George Bush would never have been president if his father weren't. Hillary would never been in this position if her husband hadn't been president. Lets not make the same mistake twice. Obama's father was a goat herder. He's gotten to where he is because of who HE is. Nuff said.
- robthom, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1Thats true. The dems are as full of ***** as anyone else. they were all flustered and aghast when dubya got in on his fathers name, and now they're trying to pull the same thing but with a different agenda. We really need a third party around here. Thats one of the things I like about Obama the most, is he'll be a major step towards busting up the Old boys/girls club and knocking down the third party stonewall.
- mnchrist, on 03/16/2008, -0/+2Were in a sad state of society where someone has to make a statement that "legislation is a bad thing." Every time Congress meets together we lose that much more freedom. Less government=more freedom. But oh well who is John Galt?
- LavaWarrior, on 03/16/2008, -0/+0Hillary is the Anti-Christ!!!
- MindyB, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Senator Clinton has lied about her foreign policy experience (bringing peace to Ireland, ending war in Bosnia, etc.) and not surprisingly now her claims of her being "instrumental" in our nation's health care are also lies! Don't we already have a President who makes it a practice to lie to the American people? hmm, yup we do! We don't need another Bush in office, we don't need more lies, exaggerations, deceptions and secrets--we've had over 7 years of that and they have nearly destroyed this great country of ours. No More Lies, No More Bush, No More Lies, No More Clintons!
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