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Hamas Contolled Palestenians Burn Up Phone Bank for Obama

barakobamanation.blogspot.com — A clip from Al-Jazeera shows that Hamas-controlled Palestinians are burning up the phone bank from Gaza to rally support for the presidential campaign of Senator Barack Hussein Obama.

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  • shirokage, on 05/13/2008, -28/+5well that just means tht if he becomes prez
    theyll be more likely to listen to us.
    remembering tht they hate the bush family and stuff
    i doubt theres ties but most probably obama being voted might provide a possibility of them to be less vicious to us
    • inboxnews, on 05/13/2008, -3/+17I'm speechless.
      • 4wheel, on 05/13/2008, -1/+12It's called "naive". Of course, if you spell it backwards, it's just bottled water. ;-)
        • KJeffV, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4It's just bottled water . . . and stuff.
    • flossdaily, on 05/13/2008, -13/+3It's a good point. The fact that Hamas likes Obama, despite the fact that Obama openly supports Israel, means that Obama is the best hope for brokering a peace in the middle east.

      Obama didn't ask for that endorsement, nor does he want it. However, the fact that Obama has a foreign-sounding name is finally paying off. The same reason ignorant Americans hate him for it, in spite of the fact the his policies will help them, is now the reason that ignorant terrorists support him in spite of the fact that his policies will hurt them.
      • 4wheel, on 05/13/2008, -4/+13Riiiiight. Talking worked out SO well for Jimmy Carter that they should try it again.
        • flossdaily, on 05/13/2008, -13/+10Carter didn't broker anything. He only met with Hamas.

          What I'm suggesting Barack can do is bring both sides to the table. Whether one of those sides is Hamas, or some non-terrorist Palestinian leadership is something Israel will have to decide. They may find that they need to have actual dealings with terrorists in order to resolve this. Although, I think meeting with the terrorist Arafat is regarded as their biggest diplomatic blunder.

          The great hope is that Obama could convince the Palestinians to adopt non-terrorist leaders.

          The great dream is that Palestinians would start a passive-resistance movement like Ghandi's India. The conflict would be over in a matter of weeks. But they seem to enjoy killing Israeli children too much.
          • 4wheel, on 05/13/2008, -4/+10If the Arab nations around the territory called Palestine opened their boarders, the conflict would be over today. They use the Palestinians as a propaganda tool to fool people like you. No, I'm not Jewish. I'm German American. Kinda like African American without all the perks.
          • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -9/+5You've clearly misjudged my politics 100% if you think I've bought into ANY Palestinian propaganda.
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -3/+11I think you've misjudged what I think,

            "The great hope is that Obama could convince the Palestinians to adopt non-terrorist leaders."

            Yes. That's like a great hope that we can some day reason with crocodiles or stop tigers from eating other mammals. These people have been bread on hatred for thousands of years. To think that reason will work because Obama is president is, well, I do not want to sound insulting. You talk to them all you'd like, but at the end of the day, lock your doors and do not expose your neck.
          • IconoclastStill, on 05/14/2008, -4/+9The only thing these savages understand is violence, the only thing they respect is force. The only way to negotiate with them is with your boot on their neck and a gun in their ear. Their 7th Century culture is less enlightened than that of civilizations which pre-dated them by thousands of years. If it were not for their oil, they would still be picking at fleas as they herded goats and humped camels (or was that humping goats and herding camels?). Genetically they are Cro-Magnon, culturally Neanderthal.
          • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4Wow, I'm pretty much as anti-Palestinian as you can get, but at least I recognize that their problem is lack of leadership and education. Yes, its deplorable that they elected Hamas to be their leaders, yes its unforgivable and inexcusable that they use terrorism to fight their battles- but to liken them to animals? Calling them "savages"? That's a step too far. You need to reexamine where you're coming from, because you're starting to sound like the monsters that the anti-Israeli crowd claims we are.

            For ***** sake. Stick to the argument: History, facts, logic. Stop dehumanizing the enemy. Palestinians may be many things, but they are not animals.
          • bamapachyderm, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2I must respectfully disagree. While not ALL "palestinians" are animals, a dangerous proportion of them clearly can be called animals (apologies to animals, of course). Mothers who raise their children to dream of strapping on suicide bomb vests? People who have murderous hate peddlers on childrens' shows? A culture that reveres murder?
            Of course there are some people who call themselves "Palestinian" who are perfectly fine just like anyone else. But far too many, especially the ones in power in Fatah and Hamas, are...well, "animals" doesn't even cover how inhuman (yes, savage) they are. I have pets, but I wouldn't have some of those palis in my house. They dehumanize themselves *daily*.
    • MrDuke77, on 05/13/2008, -4/+14Oh I see. So when they were dancing in the streets after ~3,000 citizens of the U.S. were slaughtered by Muslim Terrorists on 9/11, it was simply because GWB was President...yeah, that's the ticket. When we get attacked with B.O. at the helm, I guess they'll be weeping in the streets, tearing their clothes, lining up to help track down their vile brethren who would do such a thing. Get a grip.
      • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -13/+8You're being purposely obtuse, but you accidentally raised a good point.

        George W. Bush has characterized the invasion of Iraq as some sort of Christian crusade- and that certainly hasn't helped us any.

        Muslims respect Obama because of his name. I think if he got elected, we'd finally have an American President that Muslims would actually trust. I don't think Obama's values will favor the Muslims in any way, I just think he earns points for being brown and having a funny name- and you know what? I think that's ***** fantastic.
        • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -4/+18Actually, he said nor implied nothing of the sort, He did imply that it was to bring democracy to the middle east, which I believe is foolish. On the other hand, I wasn't elected president by the majority of this country. If I had been, I would deserve the same respect that our president deserves. That's just a ***** common courtesy for the leader of this country.
          • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -11/+1You don't understand America if you think that dissent is unpatriotic. You also don't understand that respect is something that a President must earn. Bush has not done that.
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -3/+9"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion." -- Dwight Eisenhower

            Actually I seem to understand it better than you believe you do.
          • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -9/+1You're quoting the words of man who was paranoid about communist subversion. I think we can all agree that our governments paranoia about "the reds", and its persecution of any dissenters under the label of subversives was a major low point in our history.

            Our government is at its most oppressive when it tries to label dissent as subversion, and it is weak-minded sheep like you that allow it to happen.
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -5/+8I know history. You seem to know nothing but your emotion. You're a true fascist. You can be proud of that. It's what will bring this country down except for men that believe in America.
          • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -8/+4You're the one preaching obedience to the state.

            You need to go look up 'fascism'.
          • BigBenKlingon, on 05/14/2008, -5/+3That's what you old ***** just don't seem to get. Just because you're an AARP member doesn't mean you get automatic respect. Same for the president.
        • MrDuke77, on 05/14/2008, -3/+8"You're being purposely obtuse, but you accidentally raised a good point. George W. Bush has characterized the invasion of Iraq as some sort of Christian crusade- and that certainly hasn't helped us any..."

          You may or may not be posting ignorant statements on purpose, and you raised no good points.

          You do make up some doozies though. Snorting some of that same powder as your hero B.O.?

          Go ahead and post the statements that GWB made characterizing the invasion of Iraq as a Christian crusade. If you can't, a gracious retraction would suffice.
        • rjwusa, on 05/14/2008, -2/+8"...he earns points for being brown .."

          So, Obama's qualification finally comes out?
        • MrDuke77, on 05/14/2008, -3/+8"...On Sunday, Bush warned Americans that "this crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take awhile..."

          That's it? That's all you got?! You poor little foul-mouth putz!

          He made how many speeches about our war against the terrorists that attacked us? He uses the word crusade (NOT Christian crusade) once. That, in your twisted pea brain justifies the irrational hatred you (and your anti-American soul mates who empathize with Muslim extremists) have for GWB and our Country??? The hatred Muslim maniacs have for the West predated GWB's presidency and single speech on our war against them by decades.

          You are just a sick puppy who needs some intensive psychotherapy to get over your GWB-hating obsession. Best of luck to you.

          And please don't go postal when B.O. goes down in flames come election day...
          • dkapuchino, on 05/14/2008, -1/+7Crusade is "any concerted movement, vigorously prosecuted, in behalf of an idea or principle. "
        • bamapachyderm, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3"George W. Bush has characterized the invasion of Iraq as some sort of Christian crusade"

          BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Okay, you've just beclowned yourself. I thought the ONLY people who were parroting that line were Al Qaeda--not even the BDS-afflicted Left uses that one. Silly me!
          Tip: the word "crusade" != the Christian Crusades from a millennium ago. Sorry to disappoint.
  • BabushkaBlue, on 05/13/2008, -20/+11Buried for *****.
    • pitlord, on 05/13/2008, -9/+16OMG, Al Jazeera is the official voice box of terrorism in the Middle East and you STILL deny that Hamas supports Senator Barack Hussein Obama?
      O.O
      Seriously?
      >.>
      You morons would believe the false prophecies of a lunatic on the street as long as he speaks out against Conservative values, but when perfectly rational terrorists stand up and TELL YOU they are working to help get Obama elected, you call it "*****?"
      -_-
      Pathetic.
      • 4wheel, on 05/13/2008, -3/+10I think he meant he's been buried because of his *****. No? Oh well. It LOOKS like he's been buried.
    • IconoclastStill, on 05/14/2008, -3/+7Бабушка, ты дура !!!
    • bamapachyderm, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2Translation: "Buried because I don't want people to see that Hamastinians love my messiah."
  • stienster, on 05/13/2008, -13/+11Hey shirokage. Welcome to Digg. I see it's your first day here. I have a suggestion for you if you're interested. Check out the members of an unofficial government club called Counsel for Foreign Relations. You'll see Obama, both Clintons, McCain, a few Bush names, etc., are all members. The whole political voting scheme is a set up, where Dems and Reps are two sides of one coin and the public vote means squat.
    • flossdaily, on 05/13/2008, -4/+13Yes, yes, we've heard it all before. Now tell us again how the Jews planned 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina?
      • AgentVladimir, on 05/14/2008, -1/+5It's true, I swear! They all got on a boat in the Atlantic and blew really, really hard.
    • bamapachyderm, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Hey steinster. Welcome to the non-conspiracy theory sector of digg. I see it's your first day here. I have a suggestion for you if you're interested: GET HELP.

      / btw, you people do a great job of uniting the left and right--against your insanity.
      // Ron Paul is still isn't winning! haha
  • pitlord, on 05/13/2008, -4/+19That's funny, Shirokage's comment is an exact copy and paste of the first comment on the blog story this submission links to…
    >.>
    Is Hamas patrolling digg now to defend against any anti Obama articles?
    • flossdaily, on 05/13/2008, -14/+5No, pro-Israel, pro-Obama people like me are.
      • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -9/+3Dugg down for identifying my motives? nice.
        • monsieurginger, on 05/14/2008, -5/+3Nice to see other pro Israel pro Obama like me here on Digg.
  • pitlord, on 05/13/2008, -10/+21Hey! I thought "palestinians" were being systematically destroyed by evil Zionist Israel and America.
    O.O
    They don't look like they are hiding in underground bunkers, or suffering from food and fuel shortages. They even have power for their computers and internet connections.
    >.>
    WTF?
    • LadyKofNYC, on 05/14/2008, -10/+8I bet it burns you up that the Palestinians have the audacity to use electricity let alone computers! And how DARE these animals have indoor plumbing. These things are reserves for the human beings in Israel. Palestinians aren't human!!!

      Typical ***** Zionist dirt bag
      • Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -7/+6^
        Vile, pathetic excuse for a "human being"...
        • LadyKofNYC, on 05/14/2008, -6/+13.
          Hortnon, your buddies hate Obama because he's not willing to say ***** like "bomb bomb bomb Iran" or "I will annihilate Iran". If we attack Iran it will be *purely* for Israel's sake. Obama's not willing to make that blood oath to Israel, so they attack him. Zionists accuse Obama of being a crypto Muslim (b/c "Islam *is* a gutter religion" and "Muslims *are* barbarians", as your friend Herkle says). They say that as soon as Obama becomes President, he'll throw on his kufi and start making deals with Hamas to build Jewish death camps all over the Middle East.

          But you go ahead an keep licking your boyfriend Herkle's balls and keep calling me a "Jew hater” just because I can't stand the way Israel treats the Palestinians and because I don't want the US to nuke the ***** out of Iran for Israel's sake. You just go ahead and keep letting racist Zionist assholes do your thinking for you, Hortnon.
          .
          • Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -7/+5I called you vile and pathetic because of how you act, not your beliefs, in this case.
          • LadyKofNYC, on 05/14/2008, -3/+7This coming from someone who goes around calling women bitches. Whatever, Hortnon. Go back to your friend Herkle, who believes Islam is a gutter religion and that Obama is out to kill all the Jews on the planet, and keep licking his butt hole.
          • Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -7/+3Case in point.
          • bamapachyderm, on 05/14/2008, -5/+2Hortnon never called me a bitch. Probably just crazy women like you. And guess what--I agree with him.
            Way to go off-topic, "Lady"KofNYC--although that is your usual MO, at least when you aren't having digital orgasms over the name "Ron Paul" or spewing vile anti-Semitic filth.
          • LadyKofNYC, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4Meanwhile, bama, you dugg this ***** article, which means you believe Obama is some kind of crypto-Muslim out to murder all the Jews in the world.

            No, I think you're the crazy person here. By the way, why don't you show me some of the "vile anti-Semitic filth" I've "spewed" on Digg. I'll be waiting.
          • Herkimer56, on 05/15/2008, -3/+1If Obama was a muslim out to murder all of the Jews in the world you'd be the first person to volunteer to work on his campaign.
            And for what it's worth, I won't vote for Obama because he's a Chicago Democrat and the Democrat Party in Chicago could be listed as a criminal organization under the RICO statutes. The rest of this crap is meaningless.
      • SuperVepr308, on 05/14/2008, -5/+9Without Israel they wouldn't have anything. God knows their Arab neighbors won't stoop low enough to help out these people. Read a book and you might not appear so goofy (actually you probably will but it couldn't hurt). Find a copy of A Durable Peace and get back to us after you digest it.
        • LadyKofNYC, on 05/14/2008, -8/+9Hehehe, without Israel, the Palestinians would have the land that they've lived on for centuries.
          • SuperVepr308, on 05/14/2008, -5/+4Hehehe, you might want to check your facts. Here is a hint: Look up the British and their role in Trans-Jordan. Read up a little bit and come on back.
          • bamapachyderm, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4Forget it, SuperVepr. Facts are useless to her. You can pretty much always just bury her and move on.
          • Herkimer56, on 05/15/2008, -3/+1The only thing that "Lady"K reads is garbage from Palestinian propaganda web sites. Books she burns.
  • flossdaily, on 05/13/2008, -17/+15I'm pro-Israel and pro-Obama. Obama IS pro-Israel. The fact that the Palestinians like him means that he's the best hope the world has for a broker of peace in the middle east.

    Anyone who really cares about Israel's welfare, or the the Palestinians, should be supporting Obama.

    Oh, and using his middle name is a pathetic attempt to play at people's baser fears and ignorance. Whoever does that should be ashamed.
    • 4wheel, on 05/13/2008, -8/+15I don't get it. It's HIS middle name. Why should anyone be ashamed for using it? Before you pull out the "it sounds like a Muslim Name" card, all three of his names are Muslim names. Do you call him "He who shall not be named" in order to NOT be ashamed? Where's this self righteous indignity coming from?
      • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -9/+11It has nothing to do with sounding like "a Muslim" it has to do with the fact that is sounds like "an evil dictator that we just dethroned."
        • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -8/+19Oh good grief. So, because he has the same name because he's from a Muslim father, people should be ashamed for using the name that his father gave him. Oh yeah. That makes PERFECT sense.
          • Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -9/+9What's McCain's middle name, and do you use it regularly when referring to him? Or Clinton? Do you know anyone who does?
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -7/+12No, but I go by my own middle name. My father gave it to me. What point do you think you're making Horton?
          • Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -11/+7Middle name use is the exception, not the rule. Usually there is a specific reason for referring to someone's middle name in normal conversation.
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -8/+9Just so we're clear, I believe Obama, McCain, and Hillary are poison for this country. Now, If one of them gets elected President, I will support them until they are no longer in office, because they are MY president. However, when I go to the polls to vote, I will do a write-in. All of the above are crap as far as I'm concerned. Obama is a little more to the ***** side of crap, but they're all crap.
          • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -12/+6You would have a point IF Obama used his middle name.

            Also, Hussein didn't have the same association when it was given to Obama as it does today.

            It's politics at their worst. It's the politics of fear and ignorance.
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -7/+9Well, a lot of the folks out here seem to have the ignorance part down pat.
          • ironhide, on 05/14/2008, -8/+5Oh you're a Paulite. That explains the douchebaggery.
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3No. I'm not. But you assume so if you wish. It just makes you that much more of a loon.
      • CajunDigg, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4Give him 4 years and he WILL be the dictactor we dethroned.
    • Stevanoski, on 05/13/2008, -7/+18@flossy: fail. Like most committed Leftist Democrats, Obama, as a true believer, despises little Israel.
      • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -12/+10You've been misinformed.

        Here is his webpage unequivocally showing his support of Israel:

        http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreignpolicy/#o ...


        And here is an interview where he shows his support of Israel in no uncertain terms:

        http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/20 ...

        ----

        It would be big of you to come back here and admit you were wrong after you're done reading.
        • Stevanoski, on 05/14/2008, -8/+13Listen flossy, I think your heart is in the right place but you a committed Democrat and like the Jews who right up to the showers, never believed the Germans would hurt them, I believe that is you. You have too much committed in being a Democrat to ever face the truth. Who was Obama's confidant and adviser for 20 years? Hint, he always gave sermons preaching hate to Israel. Who was one of his campaigns closest adviser? Hint, he had ties to Hamas and was only fired yesterday when his connections were exposed. What terrorist group is pulling for Obama? Hint, they start with an H and end in S. Please remove blinders before it is too late.
          • Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -10/+5So, you can't admit it, then?
          • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -12/+7I'm sorry, but Obama's pro-Israel positions are just way too nuanced for me to believe he is faking it. And the fact that you just likened Obama to Hitler is just insane. Hitler was elected on a platform of Jew hating- it wasn't a secret- he wrote Mein Kampf after all.

            Your argument that Obama is a secret Israel-hater is completely baseless, and your evidence to the contrary is weak and circumstantial.

            Bringing up up Rev. Wright is just lame- I don't believe for a second that Obama's pastors hatred rubbed off on him- besides, Obama already denounced him in no uncertain terms.

            I don't know what other advisor you're talking about, but the fact that he got fired when Hamas ties were discovered is more evidence that Barack is pro-Israel.

            I don't know what it is you have against him, but it sounds like you're determined be anti-Obama no matter what the facts are.

            Let me tell you, I looked long and hard at Obama's Israel stance before I chose to support him- not the other way around.

      • nblsavage, on 05/14/2008, -9/+9Be honest Steve. If you don't like Obama, use real reasons.
        • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -8/+19He did. You don't want to, or you don't have have the comrehensive skills to, understand them.
          • nblsavage, on 05/14/2008, -9/+5comprehensive. And unless Obama is on record as saying he hates jews then no he doesn't have a valid argument.
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -5/+10Martin Peretz of The New Republic -- a supporter of Obama and of Israel -- had this to say about Obama's Foreign Policy team:


            "I have my qualms, as you may know, about Barack Obama, and most especially about what his foreign policy might be. If elected (and actually before he were to be elected), the first decision he would have to make would be who would represent him in the transition to power from early November to January 20. And, frankly, I get the shudders since he has indicated that, among others, they would be Zbigniew Bzrezinski (I don't know much about his son, listed as Mark, but I can guess), Anthony Lake, Susan Rice and Robert O. Malley."
            Lake and Brzezenski both earned their spurs in the Carter Administration. The Carter era led to the fall of the Shah of Iran (a stalwart ally of both America and Israel), which gave birth to the Iranian revolution. We all know how well that has turned out. Jimmy Carter, of course, has led a very public campaign of vilification against Israel-defaming it as an apartheid state (a view that Obama's Pastor would concur with).


            Anthony Lake has been all but retired for the last dozen years-living on a farm in the Berkshires. This makes one wonder what he is bringing to the table, other than his Carter-era pedigree and beliefs. He has been reactivated though-one of his roles seems to be as ambassador to the Arab-American community .


            The appointment of Brzezenski elicited much dismay among supporters of Israel since Brzezinski is well known for his aggressive dislike of Israel. . He has been an ardent foe of Israel for over three decades and newspaper files are littered with his screeds against Israel. Brzezinski has publicly defended the Walt-Mearsheimer thesis that the relationship between America and Israel is based not on shared values and common threats but is the product of Jewish pressure. Brzezinski also signed a letter demanding dialogue with Hamas-a group whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel and is filled with threats to Jews around the world.


            After Hezbollah launched attacks against Israel in the summer of 2006, murdered Israelis and took hostages, Israel tried to get its citizens back by moving into Lebanon. Warfare resulted. Brzezinski wrote that Israel's actions amounted to the "killing of hostages" (the hostages being Lebanese caught in the battles). http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-clemons/zbig-b ...


            Brzezinski's son, Mark, is also on Obama's foreign policy team. Evidently the apple does not fall far from the tree. Mark recently co-wrote an op-ed advocating that America forge ties with Iran.


            Susan Rice was John Kerry's chief foreign policy adviser when he ran for President. One of the major steps Kerry suggested for dealing with the Middle East was to appoint James Baker and Jimmy Carter as negotiators. When furor erupted at the prospect of two of the most ardent foes of Israel being suggested to basically ride "roughshod" over Israel, Kerry backtracked and blamed his staff for the idea. His staff was Susan Rice.


            Drilling down further we have Robert Malley. He was part of the American negotiating team that dealt with Yasser Arafat at Camp David. He has presented a revisionist history of those negotiations since then: presenting a view that blames Israel for the failures of the negotiations. His version has been radically at odds with the views of Americans and Israelis (including the views of American Middle East negotiator Dennis Ross-also an adviser to Obama- and President Clinton).


            He has spent years representing the Palestinian point of view, co-writing a series of anti-Israel articles with Hussein Agha-a former Arafat adviser. Palestinian advocate. These have appeared in the New York Review of Books a publication that has served as a platform for a slew of anti-Israel advocates from Tony Judt to the aforementioned George Soros to the authors of the Israeli Lobby book Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer. Malley has also called settlements "colonies" -- implicitly condemning Israel as a "colonial" state. His writings have been so critical of Israel that the media-monitoring group CAMERA has a "dossier" on him. (CAMERA also has a listing for Brzezinski).


            Then there is this disconcerting article in the Financial Times about Democratic Presidential candidates and Israel. One of the key advisers to one of the Presidential candidates admitted to some tactical moves to garner pro-Israel support in America:


            "The plain fact is there is no upside for candidates to challenge the prevailing assumptions about Israel," said one of their advisers, who asked not to be named. "The best strategy is to win the White House and then change the debate."
            One well-regarded blogger, Rutgers Professor Judith Apter Klinghoffer believes this adviser was Ivo Daalder, who was quoted throughout the article and who is one of the foreign policy advisers to Barack Obama. Professor Klinghoffer is skeptical about Daalder and his feelings towards the American-Israel relationship. .


            A snapshot of Daalder's views: He has, like Obama, singled out Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz as being responsible for manipulating the levers of power to serve the interests of other countries (it bears reiterating, Perle had no official position in the Administration; Bush, Powell ,Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice-those were the decision-makers). Daalder has seemingly advocated talks with Hezbollah, Syria, Iran. Daalder stated that Israel's bombing of Qana (an attack targeting Hezbollah missile placements that resulted in civilian death) in the war against Hezbollah imperiled Israel's claim to the moral high ground. These and assorted other positions lend credence to Professor Klinghoffer's view.
          • nblsavage, on 05/14/2008, -8/+6I see nothing but some guy's opinion on what Obama's foreign policy may or not be. Big hairy deal. Still waiting for that quote from Obama saying he hates jews. Oh and that bit about the Shah of Iran? Countries don't tend to like us putting puppets in control.
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -7/+8You just dug it down without even thinking about the implications. That's what idiot sheeple do.
          • nblsavage, on 05/14/2008, -8/+5You ever think that I don't consider the implications the same way you do? People do have differences of opinion without being "sheeple".
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -7/+8The above isn't "opinion". It's what's in store.
          • nblsavage, on 05/14/2008, -6/+6in your opinion.
          • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -7/+74wheel, that article did give me pause, but what it comes down to for me is this:

            Obama hasn't dodged question of Israel, or given vague half-hearted responses. He's been unequivocal in his support of Israel. He has a problem with the Israeli settlements in the west bank, but when it comes right down to it, so do I. Frankly, I think the Israeli government has allowed those settlements to be built so that they can be bargained away in the next round of real peace talks.

            The real reason I trust Obama on Israel is because he said he understand that Israel has right to exist as a Jewish nation, because he understands that the world's Jewish population needs a place to call home, and a place where they can defend themselves against all aggressors. As long as he understands this, he will be as much of a friend to Israel as Israel requires.
          • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -8/+6He's said a lot of things that, when taken in context, don't add up. He's a professional politician. Just like McCain, and just like Hillary.
    • IconoclastStill, on 05/14/2008, -8/+17Obie is a hypocritical, lying, far left empty suit. The only reason he *seems* possibly better than the shrew is his shorter time in the public eye and deliberate effort to minimize his voting record. The reason hamas likes him should be obvious - he was born and raised moslem, only converting (?) when it became politically expedient. Trustworthy? HA! He works as a salesman at Nixon's Used Cars.
      • Tangaroa, on 05/14/2008, -7/+10Obama was born and raised as an Atheist. His father rejected Islam.
      • flossdaily, on 05/14/2008, -10/+8#1) Obama isn't far left. he's just left. Trust me, I'm far left and I know my own kind.

        #2) Ain't nothing wrong with being far left. We're for personal liberty and much needed regulation of corporate greed.

        #3) The reason Hamas likes Obama is the same reason that a lot of ignorant American's don't: he has a muslim sounding name.

        #4) He's not a muslim- I don't think he ever was. And so what if he was? Its clear that he doesn't hold onto any of the divisive beliefs that make SOME muslims scary. Its clear that he is a secularist, and tolerant of all peoples- which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for you.
        • IconoclastStill, on 05/14/2008, -8/+7(1) From where I stand, obie is way far, lynching-eligible, left.

          (2) See comment (1) above; it applies to less prominent leftists, also.

          (3) And what flavor Kool-Aid is it you prefer to sweeten with those hallucinogenics? The terrorist vermin love him because they know he will be their buddy, just like jimmuh pea-nuts, pierre kerry and the other liberals.

          (4)
          (a) He is not *openly* a moslem *now,* but he was born and raised one - those wahhabi mandrassas (I may have mis-spelled those two words, but there is no reason for me to care about that) in Indonesia are what? Lutheran? And please, 20 years of sucking up his "mentor" wright's sermons, however many years of michelle's anti-American views (which he must have known before he married) and this PoS "doesn't hold onto any of the divisive beliefs" ‽‽‽‽‽ RIGHT, You have a lucrative career available producing organic fertilizer.

          (b) So what if he is a "secularist" ?? I am an atheist. Tolerant ‽‽‽ Yeah, right - he runs with wright, farrakhan and the black panthers. Certainly I am most definitely not tolerant of all people - nor in the least bit concerned about this. This world, and particularly this nation, would be far better off without the nanny state leftist scum represented by obie and his lemmings.
          • nblsavage, on 05/14/2008, -4/+5That "Obama was born and raised a moslem" drivel is pure unadutrated grade-a *****. You should be ahsamed of yourself for even mentioning it.
          • bamapachyderm, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3I agree he's WAY far left, and that Obama is no friend of Israel.
            But he wasn't born and raised Muslim. Tangaroa is right about that. And even if he were born and raised Muslim, he would not have exactly been in the position to make up his mind about religion as a young child.
            No matter anyway--there are enough reasons to not vote for the guy regardless of his religious background (although his adult choice of "spiritual mentor" certainly says quite a bit about him).
      • nblsavage, on 05/14/2008, -7/+7IconclastStill, if someone's philosophy doesn't match up with yours, you advocate lynching? Get the hell out of my country and go to one more in line with that type of thinking. I hear Iran is beautiful this time of year.
        • IconoclastStill, on 05/14/2008, -5/+8Sorry, savage (an apt name for someone who so defends "the religion of peace" - nothing noble about it, though) . . . my comments are nothing more than the crap thrown at patriotic Americans for the past 40 or so years by the cowardly traitors on the left repackaged and returned. I simply will no longer tolerate those maggots. Don't like it? Too bad, so sad. I hear there some lovely worm burrows in france's yellow soil; you ought to check it out.
          • nblsavage, on 05/14/2008, -5/+5I'm sorry, did you see me defending any religion whatsoever? Of course I don't expect a hypocritical douchebag like yourself to notice such subtle details.
          • IconoclastStill, on 05/14/2008, -5/+4You defend obie and hamas . . . what are *they,* dude? They smell moslem to me - the stench of camel dung and rancid goat tallow is rather unique.
          • nblsavage, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4Funny, I merely pointed out that you were spreading lies. I wasn't aware I was defending Hamas. You are a touchy sonavabitch.
    • rjwusa, on 05/14/2008, -4/+13"....he's the best hope the world has for a broker of peace in the middle east..." There will NEVER be peace in the middle east.
      • IconoclastStill, on 05/14/2008, -5/+8Or at least none as long as 99.99% of moslems have any influence.
      • KJeffV, on 05/14/2008, -5/+7"There will NEVER be peace in the ME."

        ...until He returns.
      • CajunDigg, on 05/14/2008, -2/+5You obviously are oblivious to BHO's comments on Lebanon & Iranian takeover. A BHO presidency will lead to bloodshed in the ME on a scale we haven't seen in a long long time.
    • rjwusa, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5"...Here is his webpage unequivocally showing his support of Israel:..."

      You believe everything you read on the net?
  • VinBea, on 05/14/2008, -6/+10Of course hamas - and probably hezbollah (and virtually every middle-eastern group oppose to Christian ethics [not that America isn't very much a post Christian nation already]) - is pushing B. ""Hussein"" Obama; they know one of their own when they see one.
    It's just to bad Americans schooled (dumbed down) in the Government ran screw system are to dumb to know the enemy when they see it prancing on some stage somewhere.
    America is literally screwed - and will be lucky to see much into 2009 if any one of these three main politician figure heads end up getting elected; especially after the shame-job of governance by George HW Bush, followed by 8 blasphemous years of Billie Bubble-Butt Clinton -- which King Jorge Boosh Jr. ensured wouldn't be out done by virtual of the fact that King Jorge Boosh is steeped in occultic BS (pure deception from start to finish) who's ensured anything the previous two presidents were lacking, he made up the difference: as anyone can see just by looking at the middle-east!
    King Bushes' shuttle BS diplomacy to the middle east to pressure Israel is more occultic BS - you want to know the true borders of Israel; look here: Exodus 23:31-33
  • Sludgehammer, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4Man, this thread is filled with angry, angry people.
    • obamanation, on 05/15/2008, -1/+1Oh nooo!!! I see bitter white people!
  • LadyKofNYC, on 05/14/2008, -9/+3Looks like the douche bag Zionists don't like Obama very much.
  • yellowcakewalk, on 05/14/2008, -10/+3Why are the Palestinians angry anyway?

    "Every year Palestinians commemorate the Nakba ("The Catastrophe") - the expulsion and dispossession of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their homes and land in 1948. In 1948 more than 60 percent of the total Palestinian population was expelled. More than 530 Palestinian villages were depopulated and completely destroyed. To date, Israel has prevented the return of approximately six million Palestinian refugees, who have either been expelled or displaced. Approximately 250,000 internally displaced Palestinian second-class citizens of Israel are prevented from returning to their homes and villages."

    http://electronicintifada.net
    • SuperVepr308, on 05/14/2008, -1/+7Here's one for you: With the massive amount of land and money available to the neighboring Arab countries, why do they not assimilate these folks and therefore end the "suffering"? I'll give you three guesses...
      • 4wheel, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4To give people like yellowcakewalk and Ladykof nyc a forum to show their ignorance? Just guessing.
        • SuperVepr308, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2That's not it but the point is sound nonetheless:)
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