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Giuliani has business ties to FOXNEWS, NY Post, and the Saudi Royal Family

foxnews.com — Giuliani has been getting positive press on FOXNEWS and the NY Post after his factually incorrect response of Texas Congressman and Presidential Candidate Ron Paul. Shouldn't both media outlets have to disclose this relationship when they run stories? Last night Giuliani and Hannity called Ron's statement a crazy "conspiracy theory.

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  • PBronstein, on 10/23/2007, -11/+86Boycott Hannity's sponsors until he admits the truth:

    http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Boycott_An_Open_Letter_to_Sean_Hannity
    • Tabou, on 10/11/2007, -3/+50So the $10 million check from the Saudi prince was nothing but a publicity stunt for both the prince and Rudolph, which they probably planned together since it's a win-win for them. The prince didn't lose a penny, while projecting a good image of himself to both Americans (by being charitable) and Arabs (by speaking for their cause), while Rudolph acted like a "hero" by rejecting the millions of dollars.
      Rudolph is being more and more exposed as the opportunist ***** he is by the day.
    • therightside, on 10/11/2007, -33/+3SWEET, didnt think I was going to get my conspiracy fix for the day.
    • kingkilr, on 10/11/2007, -21/+2How do you have a response OF a person?

      Seriously does anyone actually proofread before they submit, or is spell check the new, actually looking at what I just wrote...
    • CannedMango, on 10/11/2007, -2/+35@therightside

      it seems to me that people who don't have the time and/or skills to connect the dots love to use the term "conspiracy". I guess that anything that falls outside of the range of the official message handed down to you by your leaders is crazy.

      I think the truth of how this world 'really' works would destroy you.
    • uwjames, on 10/11/2007, -1/+37Boycott Hanity? Done and done.
    • geoffg, on 10/11/2007, -27/+0@CannedMango

      Yes yes we all saw the Matrix it was a great movie now stfu!
    • CannedMango, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11@geoffg

      case in point...
    • SniperX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11@kingklr:
      "Seriously does anyone actually proofread before they submit"

      So.. If they put 'beta' after the title, would it be ok?
    • DiggMasterJ, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Let's face it. We live in a country where too many of our leaders belong to the same secret organization, and most of the people don't belive it exists. The sad part is that the fact it exists isn't even the secret.
    • chiricahua, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Hi:

      I used to watch / listen to Hannity / Rush and have stopped after the debates.

      I can see clearly now that they are the best talk host money can buy...

      I am a Republicrat and Ron Paul gets my vote. I have never shared my thoughts or politico views with family members or others, handed out campaign info / stickers, but now I am going to support Ron Paul for President. Just ordered a couple hundred Ron Paul for president bumpers stickers. My liberal family and friends are telling me about Ron Paul!


    • countrygirl31, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Why is this a shock?

      Now a days it is an unwritten guideline to be rich, know someone, or be a crook to hold office now a days.

      Too bad we can't go back to what was really required to run for office.
  • tsoldrin, on 10/11/2007, -7/+63Of course he does... all the neocons have the same basic business ties... if you charted it out on a whiteboard you'd see a massive web of deceit and control pulling the strings that make the world dance. Their time in the sun is closing though... this grand experiment has failed and miserably.
    • fober, on 10/11/2007, -4/+30Not advocating corporate ties here, but don't all politicians have their hands in corporate pockets and vice-versa?
    • EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21@fober, yes and no. So-called "Press" have often endorsed, but not funded, candidates. And they certainly haven't lied about who they like.

      I'd have less problem with Fox News openly endorsing Giuliani than that they are secretly paying him.

      The Saudi connection is also troublesome, given recent events. Giuliani's law firm has its only international office in Kazakhstan, which oddly enough is also about oil. Afghanistan turns out to be the ideal route for a Caspian-to-Indian-ocean oil pipeline. I wonder if Giuliani would claim never to have heard of Unocal?
    • emjaymj, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8See, I'd have less problem having it the other way around. Campaign contributions from corporations are nothing new and ALL politicians do it. The money goes towards getting more positive exposure anyways. Fox News doesn't need to give money to anybody, it would almost be redundant. They control a means of exposure - and, as one of the absolute biggest media outlets, they can accomplish much more through filtering information to make their candidate appear to be the best than to just toss more cash around.

      A great deal of people stick to a certain network for anything news related. So any network is pretty much able to guarantee a large amount of votes if they wish, because they can be as selective as they want about which pieces of news suit their goals.
    • blaze4metal, on 10/11/2007, -12/+7Digg this down
    • epsilon72, on 10/11/2007, -16/+1lol @ all of this "vast right wing conspiracy" bs.

      "oh noes!!! teh conservative Christians are ebil and taking over the world!!!1! let's bash anything right-wing because popular culture tells us to!!"

    • habman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Your Right, but more likely than not this same neocon slop it will be back again in some other form within 10-15 years, the life span of the American collective memory.
    • LukeSkope, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2See, that's the problem, it's not even a vast right wing conspiracy, it is a concerted effort on the part of the wealthy to consolidate more wealth and protect their own interests. There's no conspiracy, it's common ***** sense!! Most of the people in power are wealthy or backed by wealthy interests, so their policies are going to reflect, most of the time, the desires of their most important constituents.

      You'd never make it to election night without massive exposure in the media, which costs money, either your own money, or that of your donors, so your policies are obviously going to reflect the desires of the people that helped you get in office in the first place.

      What you get is corporate welfare, paid for by tax payers that believe that their tax money is collected to benefit them. People have come to expect certain social services like health care, social security, education, military, etc. So, to deliver on those promises politicians must raise taxes, or print more money (which raises taxes through inflation), instead of ending the massive corporate welfare system we have in place. Ending corporate welfare is biting the hand that feeds, and raising taxes is so unpopular, they just have the Fed print more money, borrow it, at interest and worry about the consequences later.

      And epsilon72, please go kill yourself, there are enough puppets and sheep polluting the world as it is.
  • Xuvious, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14A strange omission is that Giuliani may have corporate ties to Fox News. I mean, I didn't see that in the article though I may have overlooked it.
    • PBronstein, on 10/11/2007, -2/+40NewsCorp is FOXNEWS and The NY Post among others.
    • Xuvious, on 10/11/2007, -3/+23Oh ok...I see now. I didn't catch the correlation. Thanks!
    • SniperX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12I think the biggest news here is that he has ties to MySpace.

      OMFG our childrens are in danger!..
    • gratefulspread, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7myspace is also owned by newscorp
  • Gophergreg, on 10/11/2007, -27/+5Check your 401K, numbnuts. Chances are, you have ties to Foxnews, China, Pakistan and a bunch of other things you don't like.
    • PBronstein, on 10/11/2007, -3/+40These are direct business ties, not some indirect link, that would not be newsworthy.
  • ccagney, on 10/11/2007, -4/+59Cha-ching. Cashing in on 911. What a hero....
    • Groovemaster, on 10/11/2007, -6/+28"We were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse, and it did collapse." - Rudy Giuliani

      I wonder why he was in such a rush to have the evidence removed from the scene of the crime.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNmf76GUCw
    • unicronband, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19Can someone please make one of those videos where it's like everytime Giuliani has invoked 9/11 condensed into 3 minutes. "9/11, 9/11, 9/11. When I was mayor on 9/11. My 9/11's r in ur 9/11, 9/11ing ur 9/11. Did I mention I was mayor on 9/11?"
    • bjornski, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16You'd never be able to fit every invocation of 9/11 into a 3-minute video.

      It's his ONLY running point.

      Well, that and teaming up with the EPA and telling our first responders that sure, the air is safe!

      And then letting them die.

      ***** Rudy.
    • demonic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0This maybe a little of the post but the real question that hasn't been asked directly to Rudy is..."Who told you that the buildings were to collapse?" and from what chain of command did this come from?. Now thats an answer I'm sure the world is waiting to know.
  • my4boyz, on 10/11/2007, -7/+17all I can say is if Giuliani becomes president we will all be singing "away goes America down the drain... Roto Rudy!"
    • trough, on 10/11/2007, -22/+4Very true. Giuliani is a catholic. Last time we had a catholic president, we came close to thermonuclear war.

      Vote non-catholic :)
    • dodus, on 10/11/2007, -5/+14@trough

      That's absurd. There are plenty of reasons to hate on Giuliani, but being catholic isn't one of them.
    • bjornski, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3That's all very true, but I will NOT vote for anyone who bases governmental policies on boogeymen and ghosts.

      I want an ATHEIST candidate.
  • hgb5150, on 10/11/2007, -26/+3Giuliani sucks, but this is just more Paul astroturf.
  • rawkdown, on 10/11/2007, -10/+12This needs to be DUGG!
  • swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -3/+25Giuliani also has mob ties apparently.
  • Bossy, on 10/11/2007, -7/+48If anyone votes for him, they are asking for another Bush.
    • EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -4/+35In Italian, "Giuliani" means "Like a bush, only more so."
    • greenriver572, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10if anyone votes for Giuliani, theyre voting for another Hitler.
    • Sil369, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5another War.
  • JFen, on 10/11/2007, -3/+36Long live PNAC.

    Anyone who runs on a platform of "Fear" does not deserve to serve the country in any capacity.
    • qazz, on 10/11/2007, -11/+7So AlGore is out.
    • gooup, on 10/11/2007, -9/+6So, Al Gore is out, then?
    • bitcloud, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12Al gore identified a problem and then identified a peaceful resolution to that problem...

      You're a very confused individual
    • blaze4metal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10@gooup, @gazz

      Al Gore isn't even running. Calm down people.
    • epsilon72, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6@bitcloud:

      No, Al Gore fabricated a problem that is totally unsupported by legitimate science - it is supported by "consensus".
  • Look4Truth, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15Gee, what a surprise...NOT! He's also got ties to the NWO.
  • bg785, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13the tide is turning against giuliani
  • tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28BREAKING NEWS: Politicians might be sleazy.
    • bitcloud, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10the breaking news is that now people aren't going to stand for it...
  • Alegoo92, on 10/11/2007, -23/+3STFU ALREADY
    • bjornski, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Quit reading the stories like this then.

      And quit whining, you sound like a ***** crybaby.

    • Alegoo92, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Your a ***** retard -- all you ***** retarted GOP haters.
  • LinearChaos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+33During the debate Rudy Giuliani had a little spat with Paul and got a huge pop from the crowd. It didn't seem real to me, and I think that there is more than meets the eye when it comes the "debate". I don't agree with a lot of the stuff I have read from Cliff Kincaid, but he wrote an article that I found interesting for a couple of reasons (especially if he is correct):

    http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272613400.shtml

    First it mentions a "Conflict of Interest":

    "...the same Associated Press story that named Saudi Arabia as a Giuliani client listed News Corporation, the parent company of Fox News, as another Giuliani client. This AP story, which was not disputed by Giuliani or News Corporation, was carried on the Fox News website."

    I thought that was interesting, but what caught my eye was what I saw about a guy named Michael Steele:

    "Later, Michael Steele, Maryland’s former Lieutenant Governor, was on Fox News, declaring that Giuliani had destroyed Ron Paul. “It’s done,” Steele said of Paul’s campaign. It wasn’t mentioned that Giuliani had campaigned for Steele when he ran for a Maryland Senate seat."

    I remember watching that after the debate, how Scoop and Dump had "crushed" Ron Paul with the big pop and that Ron Paul's campaign was all but over. Yep, Mr. Steele had done the deed, and I imagine he sees the great riches and sexy women that the muslims hate us for in his future. I am sure there is a clip of it on the interweb somewhere. But I looked up that Steele was Chairman of GOPAC:

    http://gopac.org/index.php

    And on the front page:

    "We have reserved tickets for all GOPAC Charter Members to attend the debate in South Carolina. As a Charter Member, you will see the candidates first hand as they debate the issues in front of a world audience. As always GOPAC will also incorporate an exciting array of panels and speakers that we hope will bring new insight to the issues of the day. Please contact Belinda Cook at 202-464-5170 or bcook@gopac.org today to reserve your ticket or to become a GOPAC charter member today. Seating is limited."

    Wow, that sure seems "fair and balanced" to me. I am curious to see exactly who got tickets for this "debate". Was it all GOPAC, whose Chairman Giuliani campagned for at one time, attending an event co-sponsored by a Giuliani client? Is this The Twilight Zone?

    No conflict of interest there, can't have anything to do with why the audience was so pro Ghouliani.
  • obliviousfool, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19Lemme get this straight. Fox News reports that it may be a political liability for Giuliani to have ties to Fox News? Weird.
    • EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17They're not reporting it. They're carrying the AP news wire. They may not even have read this story, let alone approved it.
    • gojeda, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Yea, that's it - FOXnews do not read the stories they run. Nice going *****.

      Non-story.....
  • jpatch, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Well, that also explains why I had three links show up side-by-side for a video from the debate entitled, "Rudy Giuliani talks with Hannity"
  • DivisibleByZero, on 10/11/2007, -10/+4I don't get the allegation that his response was "factually incorrect". Giulliani interpreted Paul's statements to mean that 9/11 was specifically a response to our previous treatment of Iraq. I interpreted it the same way when he said it.
    So we can say al-Queda was pissed about us having military bases in Saudi Arabia, etc. That's not the point Guilliani was contesting. Did al-Queda ever publicly say that 9/11 was about support for Iraq in particular? I haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Anybody have a link to prove that it did?
    If the problem here is that Mr. Paul didn't mean Iraq specifically--and Giulliani misinterpreted--then the appropriate response is not to call him a liar, but notify him of his mistake. English isn't a perfect language, so misinterpretations of that sort are common.
    • EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18Paul said a lot more than the part about 10 years in Iraq. It's just that Hannity and others have edited his comments down and repeated them so often you wouldn't know the difference.

      Not that Paul was super-articulate in that forum either, but it's not so easy to convey a complex idea in 16 seconds.
    • PBronstein, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15http://spinfilter.blogspot.com/2007/05/open-letter-to-sean-hannity.html

      I have multiple examples listed here. Even as late as yesterday Giuliani reiterated his comments. He still maintains it is about our "Freedom of Religion" and "Women's Rights".

      We have expert statements to the 9/11 commission, Paul Wolfowitz, just about every interview that Bin Laden ever did and both his fatwas, the CIA, the list goes on. If Giuliani still never heard that from anyone other than Ron Paul he is plain ignorant. If you read what the AEI wrote previous to 9/11 it would be clearer. They are calling for a clash of civilizations and a that piece of information doesn't get discussed on purpose. They want to broaden the conflict as much as possible. They use to talk about it right after 9/11 but it seems once the term "islamofascism" came in, they don't discuss it. The term "islamofascism" is propaganda, it is vague so they don't have to specify the enemies.
    • DivisibleByZero, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3@EntropyMan
      Agreed. I watched the actual debate though, not the edited clips later on. When Paul mentioned Iraq like that, I did the same doubletake Guilliani did.
      Been some criticism of Guilliani playing the 9/11 card, but I think in this case Paul was making a shoddy attempt at playing the Iraq card. While he could have just left it at "We've been interfering in the middle east for years", he decided to give examples, and selected Iraq because people will respond to that.
  • funkmachine, on 10/11/2007, -14/+3Why are Libs so terrified of this guy?
    • bjornski, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Because he's the WORST candidate the GOP has to offer.

      And because so many STUPID PEOPLE are believing his *****, flip-flop stories.

      Rudy will say ANYTHING HE THINKS YOU WANT TO HEAR, if it'll get him that sweet, sweet money and power.

    • gojeda, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3They're terrified of the guy because the Dems do not think they have anyone who can compete once the nominations have been decided.
  • WarPirate, on 10/11/2007, -12/+13Anyone that buys gas for their vehicle has business ties to the Saudi Royal Family
  • akirakurosawa, on 10/11/2007, -20/+5i see Liberals are reaalllyy scared of Rudy hehehe
    • hmmmok, on 10/11/2007, -14/+5Only John Edwards and John Kerry are allowed to make $$$!
    • luther70, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13Yep you know nothing scares liberals more than a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro gun control candidate.
  • Grego123, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5Giuliani is pure evil, or a frightened lil boy
  • thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4So, when are people going to start saying that Giuliani let 9/11 happen?
    • Look4Truth, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7When they conduct an honest investigation.
  • HiCaP, on 10/11/2007, -21/+5If ya ask me, I think Rudy took it easy on Ron Paul, who the Hell is Ron Paul anyways?
    a nobody going nowhere I guess

  • gooup, on 10/11/2007, -10/+3Giuliani's response was factually incorrect? Oh, do tell.
  • iancgi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7u shouldn't throw rocks if u live in fragile fairytales
  • portwojc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Posters please don't ask questions in the description that are answered in the article. It just goes to show you don't read or hope others don't.

    Question: Shouldn't both media outlets have to disclose this relationship when they run stories?

    FTA: Giuliani's law and lobbying clients have included Saudi Arabia, Rupert Murdoch's News Corp., and chewing tobacco maker UST Inc.

    And at the bottom of TA your answer: News Corp. is the parent company of FOX News and FOXNews.com

    Just making sure people see it. Not supporting anyone but getting those important questions asked answered.
  • combustion8, on 10/11/2007, -13/+1keep trying to slam rudy digg-*****, he's still going to be our next prez.
    • Seefate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Thanks for pointing your self out, now if by some act of god, or should I say mob, he get elected I will know who to blame when our country goes into a recession and the world hates us just that much more.

      US Revolution here come!



  • zeebusboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Hillary and Rudy are the Rupert Murdoch candidates.

    NO HILLARY NO RUDY.
  • luther70, on 10/23/2007, -0/+18Its kind of sick that if 911 didn't happen Rudy wouldn't even be a serious candidate.
  • moxley, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Rudy is a piece of *****. If he becomes our next president, then let's just hope there are still people hanging out in the grassy knolls of the world.

    The guy is a fascist by every definition of the word. He is corrupt and was complicit in the 9/11 attacks, and even people who don't understand or believe that are aware that he (as much as any of the neo-right fascists) gained enormously from exploiting the tragedies.
  • my4boyz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Why the New York City Firefighters despise him so much...
    http://firefightingnews.com/article-US.cfm?articleID=27125

    • BigDaddyBucyk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Thanks for the link, my4boyz............ scoop and dump? funny how many times i saw little Rudy wearing a police or firefighter cap. he should be scooped and dumped.
    • blaze4metal, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2@my4boyz

      New York Firefighters = Democrat Swift Boat card
    • bjornski, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Blaze: are you saying the swift boaters are full of *****?

  • opiophile, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4We should have a Ron Paul Digg blackout day. Digg only Ron Paul articles. Mwahahaha....
  • alastar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6"What Giuliani showed is a disgraceful lack of respect for the fallen and those brothers still searching for them. He exposed our members and leaders to arrest. He valued the money and gold and wanted the site cleared before he left office at the end of 2001 more than he valued the lives and memories of those lost."

    And to think that he positions himself as the expert on the 9/11 attacks and the trauma that followed. Ouch.
  • markgl, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2ron paul blames us for what happened. we did nothing!!! if someone close to you died from a terrorist attack here in the US I doubt you be saying, oh well, it's ok for them todo it. my mom sets foreign policy so she had it coming... And even that isn't a good excuse.
    • blaze4metal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9@markgl

      Sigh...read up on what Ron Paul said (not from Fox News, CNN, or MSNBC) and maybe you'll start being part of the solution, not part of the problem.
    • gasconne, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Gosh, I suppose all our militant foreign policy approaches abroad couldn't possibly have annoyed anyone. We're the universal good guys! We have to be, someone attacked us and people died! And terrorist attacks NEVER happened until the nasty brown people started hating us for our freedoms! Oklahoma City never happened! Pay no attention to the complete idiocy with which Europe and the US have approached foreign policy in the Middle East for the last several decades! The great and powerful markgl has spoken!

      No, dude, you do not get a pass for being a complete moron because your mother died. Wake the ***** up. It does no honor to her memory if you insist on swallowing the Flavor-Aid (no, it wasn't Kool-Aid in Jonestown; look it up).
    • hotelactual, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3if your Mom set foreigh policy then three thousand people, who in fact were close to you, namely sovereign and free Americans, would not have died.
  • PBronstein, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Giuliani_Spins_Calls_Ron_Paul_s_Debate_Statement_a_Conspiracy_Theory

    Here is where he calls Paul's statement a conspiracy theory. Please just read the spin he uses. He appears to be trying to say that since there is no operational connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq that Ron's comment is crazy. Rudy appears to be on of the biggest liars I've ever seen, and watching politics you see a lot of liars.
  • MacintoshSauce, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Rudy Giuliani bloody scares me.
  • itsxclusive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Rudy Giuliani is a another neo-con like Bush and his admistration.

    When doesn't the public get it??? it's not bush and his admiinistration...it's the collaborative effort of these neo-con republicans. Republicans in general just can't be trusted...u never know who's a neo con.
    • ptrr, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2"Republicans in general just can't be trusted...u never know who's a neo con."
      You have to look at their individual voting records, you shouldn't just clump them all together and say they're all bad, it's not that easy. Saying they're all untrustworthy is rather ignorant and short-sighted.
  • PBronstein, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9The importance of the Saudi part is that he turned down 10 million dollars from Saudi Arabia to 9/11 victims, but he has no qualms about pocketing Saudi money himself. At first I thought FOXNEWS and NY Post was the big story but the Saudi money he gets is the big story. We have to keep hammering him on this, among other things.
    • jp007, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Man, I wish I could hear Ron Paul bring up that very fact in the next debate. That would be awesome to some Ghouli get so owned. Again.
  • falseleftright, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Rudy Guiliani = more of the same with a sentimental "Soprano" twist. He really has two claims to fame:

    1. Cleaning up NYC. Some say he cleaned up the city and brought the crime rate down. Some say he was responsible for propagating thousands of civil rights violations via authorizing brutal police tactics. Well, I'm from the area and it does smell a little better. However, whatever criminal element there was has been replaced by the current criminal element. Just an opinion from a resident.

    2. His leadership on 9/11. Some say he was the heroic figure that led NY out of the rubble, ruin and chaos of the day. Others say he let first responders down when he ordered them in without respirators. Many today are and have paid the price for that, so I am told. For some odd reason, this event vaulted him from obscurity, to stardom. It is enlightening, I think, to glance at those whom have benefited from the events of Sep 11th.

    Rudy Guliani is a bully and a cheat, with a complete disregard for human rights or accountability. He is reminiscent of a Tony Soprano, someone who elevates himself by force and who coerces others into following.

    Is it any wonder he has diverse financial dealings with an organization like Prav.. erm, Fox News.
  • xdream, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Guiliani got his ass kicked by Ron Paul. Ron Paul is very articulate, and not a slave of the corporate elite. Guiliani only repeated what the moderated asked Ron Paul. Read the manuscript next time before sputtering nonsense and making yourself look foolish.

    Buried
    • gojeda, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Ron Paul is an imbecile, and it showed in the debate and subsequent polling numbers.
  • pjp500, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Rudy
    Is a former attorney who sees the world in good and evil, he is the worst possible choice for President, maybe attorney general, he did get the mob out of the Fulton Fish Market..
  • Corrosionx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Giuliani's answer to everything:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSk4SUpWVuY
  • n0gnuz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Sure, the relationship should be disclosed. And every single ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN anchor needs to admit to being a Democratic Party fundraiser and to involvement in radical causes. And the Israeli-American presidents of AOL-Time Warner, Disney, Viacom, Vivendi Universal, Newhouse, US News & World Report, ABC, CBS, NBC, News Corp., the WSJ, the Chicago Times-Herald, Evening Post, Bertelsmann, et al., need to admit that their primary allegiance is to Israel and world Zionism, not the United States public.

    Good luck with your (one-sided, partisan) crusade for media transparency.
  • Lrn2Fish, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3There is basically limited number of political and social agenda pushing ideologues who effectively reach the masses. You have your Hannity, Rush, Savage, Beck, Stewart, Colbert, olbermann, and others. These figures as an idea are great, They get a stream of conversation going that millions can listen in on. However, when a conversation can influence the opinion's of several million people, there need to be checks in place that very easily and openly allow listeners to check on the validity of the messages these ideologues push out.

    In arguments, Hannity has more than once put forth a defense that manipulated the truth to invalidate ideas he didnt approve of. Hannity uses the "crazy conspiracy theory" defense to invalidate ideas to his devout followers when in fact the idea may have truth to it. When a speaker has so many loyal followers, he begins to wield a power over the social opinion of his followers. When this speaker uses this power to alienate others, we need to know if this person is working towards the social good or if they have hidden motives such as political and financial ties to other entities wishing to control social agenda.

    We need to begin open source projects that create transparency in these social machines. Sean Hannity is not a person, he is a machine with many moving parts that control the message that reaches the airwaves. The inner working of this machine should be easily visible to any one who wants to know if one of their sources of national social activity of information is truly fair and balanced or if the source is skewed to positively affect their puppet masters.

    Full records of any financial relationships should be available.
    Fact-checked transcripts of their shows should available with debate from both sides of the issue.
    Message trends should be recorded and discussed by both sides of the issue.
    Most importantly, complete neutrality must be maintained so that this source of data can be called a left wing nut job or a right winged fascist.

  • mojibyrd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I really cannot believe the idiotic posts by some of those neo-con lover's who do not really understand that they want to put people like hillary or guiliani in office at the detriment of themselves and the country....cannot these simpletons really not understand the implications? or do they just prefer to have a corrupt government cause it creates chaos and they actually enjoy it?
  • Cmonkey67, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3pfffft fox news! This is obviously dribble from the continuing Gulianni bashing liberal media!
  • facereplacer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I believe it.
  • stuckinOK06, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The President and Vice President aren't technically considered government employess? WTF?!?!?!?! Who the ***** do they "technically" get their paycheck from? And who's house does the President live in??? And who's money is he spending??? (Remember the 1 BILLION dollars for "unanticipated needs" for the office of the president? http://www.thebudgetgraph.com/poster/?
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