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Dennis Kucinich Excluded From Des Moines Register Debate
earthtimes.org — The highest polling Democratic Presidential candidate among the Party's progressive, grassroots, activist base, Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, has been excluded from the Des Moines Register-sponsored Presidential debate here on Thursday because his Iowa field director operates from a home office rather than a rented storefront.
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- cashman57, on 12/13/2007, -8/+106Just another case of the media trying to decide for us. I guess if anyone still subscribes to that rag they already know what's up.
I hope Dennis has a rally outside the debate forum.- Fabc001, on 12/13/2007, -3/+36Too right, if Kucinich supporters don't swamp that Old media rag and cause a ruckus than he is finished.
- an10ae, on 12/13/2007, -5/+6Yeah because being excluded from the douchebags who are present will really hurt you in this race. I mean no one in the country wants healthcare or to stop the war for that matter.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -26/+4Sorry, but Special K was finished before he started.
- BlackStrain, on 12/13/2007, -3/+14Never underestimate the powers of a man who can marry an insanely hot 30 years younger wife. I'm keeping my fingers crossed we get a FLILF
- subliminalurge, on 12/13/2007, -23/+5As someone who lives in Des Moines, I can honestly say I don't care about the reasons behind his exclusion, I'm just happy that douchebag won't be visiting my town.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -18/+5Special K has always had a thing for pretty young things. Hell, who doesn't?
But that in no way qualifies you for anything other than getting laid.- pintomp3, on 12/13/2007, -2/+13you seem to show up whenever there is a submission about kucinich to bad mouth him. you troll and comment over and over in each thread. why are you so obsessed with him? are you that threatened by him?
- wolfiemouse, on 12/13/2007, -3/+17This is so outrageous ... I am just frantic with outrage!!!
This can't be true!!! America is better than this!!!No Dennis??? Somebody needs to correct this ASAP!!!
I just wrote to CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and the Register, every blog I belong to, and to everybody else I could possibly think of.
Come on folks ... HELP!
This is outrageous!!! Dennis is a valid presidential candidate ... let all the candidates have EQUAL and fair treatment! Dennis deserves to speak!!!
LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE!
This is outrageous no matter what party you support, or what candidate!!!
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article ...- monkeyvoodoo, on 12/13/2007, -5/+2Wow. Uhhh, that's... a large amount of enthusiasm, there. Out of curiosity, just how many politically-charged emails do you send on a daily basis?
- wolfiemouse, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Thanks for asking ... at least one letter... sometimes 3 or 4 or more to a number of officials, news media outlets, action groups, blogs, and about 100 personal political commenting buddies.
... and you?
- wolfiemouse, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Thanks for asking ... at least one letter... sometimes 3 or 4 or more to a number of officials, news media outlets, action groups, blogs, and about 100 personal political commenting buddies.
- ISIfunded911, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6That is nice of you!
I would like to know if you also spend time campaigning for him in real life, giving leaflets, going door-to-door. I believe this is the only way to help him win, because the corporate media when they invite him give him very little time to express himself compared to the other candidates.- wolfiemouse, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1No giving of leaflets yet, or door to door ... personal issues with a disabled daughter curtails a lot of 'out on the street' activity. I prefer letters/emails as I can do that while she is resting. Both of us though have participated in local 'sign-carrying' protests, at times when she has been physically able.
So you do a lot of door to door leafleting?
- wolfiemouse, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1No giving of leaflets yet, or door to door ... personal issues with a disabled daughter curtails a lot of 'out on the street' activity. I prefer letters/emails as I can do that while she is resting. Both of us though have participated in local 'sign-carrying' protests, at times when she has been physically able.
- monkeyvoodoo, on 12/13/2007, -5/+2Wow. Uhhh, that's... a large amount of enthusiasm, there. Out of curiosity, just how many politically-charged emails do you send on a daily basis?
- monkeyvoodoo, on 12/13/2007, -3/+1Replied to the wrong post...
- andrgo, on 12/13/2007, -1/+11The Des Moines Register has an online message board, in case anyone wasn't aware:
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section ...- wolfiemouse, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Thanks so much for the link! It saves people so much time when searching for ways to leave their opinions.
- CH3CH2OH, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4What really ticks me off here is that they're not inviting Kucinich or Gravel, but they invited Alan Keyes to the Republican debate yesterday. He's absolutely nuts; there's no way he's polling above 1%. At least Kucinich and Gravel have support in some corners. Keyes belongs in a padded cell.
- askantik, on 12/22/2007, -0/+1KUCINICHCANTWIN.COM
- Fabc001, on 12/13/2007, -3/+36Too right, if Kucinich supporters don't swamp that Old media rag and cause a ruckus than he is finished.
- galeninjapan, on 12/13/2007, -50/+12"The highest polling Democratic Presidential candidate among the Party's progressive, grassroots, activist base"
Give me a break. You could just as easily say that Zombie movies are the best when polling college aged, horror, cult fan movie goers.- proseandpromise, on 12/13/2007, -3/+11They are though. Are you trying to tell me you've seen a zombie movie that wasn't completely awesome? I just don't think I can respect the comment of someone with no love for zombies.
- h4mx0r, on 12/13/2007, -4/+2Flight of the Undead was not awesome. It was retarded.
- flogistan, on 12/13/2007, -1/+3That's it! I knew something ate bush's brain. Return of the living dead was the best. I say that as a person who likes movies in general, but generally dislikes zombie movies, so your comment has been proven completely absurd.
- h4mx0r, on 12/13/2007, -4/+2Flight of the Undead was not awesome. It was retarded.
- proseandpromise, on 12/13/2007, -3/+11They are though. Are you trying to tell me you've seen a zombie movie that wasn't completely awesome? I just don't think I can respect the comment of someone with no love for zombies.
- diggerydood, on 12/13/2007, -6/+80The following contact info and phone number was posted at Buzzflash: "Call the Des Moines Register. Outside Iowa:800-247-5346. Inside Iowa:800-532-1455. Ask for the Newsroom. I complained to the woman who answered the phone. She said they have already received hundreds of calls. It was the decision of the editor and publisher of the Des Moines Register to exclude Dennis. Reach the editor at cwashburn@dmreg.com. Her name is Carolyn Washburn."
- caferrell, on 12/13/2007, -1/+40thanks diggerydood, this Paulite has now sent Ms. Washburn an email.
- notque, on 12/13/2007, -1/+25Email sent, phone call tomorrow.
- phnx0221, on 12/13/2007, -1/+24Email sent, thank you so much for this information diggerydood!
- tcsucks, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Email sent!
- Sep11insidejob, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Sent
- lookbehindu, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Phone call made, when they picked up it sounded their phones systems were having a melt down. Hopefully this is due to the digg effect!
- wolfiemouse, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1I am starting to hear that Pelosi was behind it because of HR333.
Someone is behind it ... right now I am focusing on the official Democratic Party and why they did not stand up for Dennis ... a legitimate presidential candidate, and a US Democratic Congressman.
Why is Howard Dean not hollering??? Why are the rest of the candidates silent???
- rahamm, on 12/13/2007, -27/+22All he had to do was have an HQ and 1 yes just one person campaigning for him in Iowa. That is not a lot for Iowa to ask for, Alan Keys made it for gods sake. No one is censoring him he is censoring himself.
- rootnik, on 12/13/2007, -23/+9Prepare to get dugg down for speaking the truth. The Kucunich campaign new what the requirements were. They let his supporters down, not PBS/Iowa.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -18/+5Kucinich manages his campaign as well as he managed Cleveland as mayor...which means poorly.
- rhedwolf, on 12/13/2007, -7/+26Except he DOES have a campaign HQ and dozens of people working for him in Iowa. The real reason he can't come is because the corporations don't *want* him to have a chance of winning.
- fuzzmeister, on 12/13/2007, -9/+6Considering he could get around this by making just one small official office, it doesn't seem that onerous to me...
- Bing11, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5Then they'll just change the requirements to say "and you're first name isn't Dennis."
The point isn't him meeting B.S. requirements -- it's about the fact that he's getting targeted exclusion for it. - alexforcefive, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3And considering how unnecessary "one small official office" would be, why do you think they're using it as a reason to exclude him?
- Bing11, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5Then they'll just change the requirements to say "and you're first name isn't Dennis."
- fuzzmeister, on 12/13/2007, -9/+6Considering he could get around this by making just one small official office, it doesn't seem that onerous to me...
- Dustin00, on 12/13/2007, -1/+26He wasn't given a list of requirements. They wanted to block him from the debate, they just picked this as an excuse.
If they were interested in having a good debate, they would declare their requirements and give candidates time to respond.
They're not interested in a debate. They just want to advertise the candidate they want to win. - GroundhogBoy, on 12/13/2007, -1/+12And this is what's stupid about these debates. Kucinich, who has participated in almost every debate, gets blocked out while someone like Alan Keyes gets on stage. If anyone caught the debate, he was a completely self righteous distraction. His whining about God being taken out of the educational system was pretty much where I draw the line.
- rootnik, on 12/13/2007, -23/+9Prepare to get dugg down for speaking the truth. The Kucunich campaign new what the requirements were. They let his supporters down, not PBS/Iowa.
- shadash, on 12/13/2007, -21/+103I'm for Ron Paul but this is *****
- georgemason01, on 12/13/2007, -5/+14Money talks. Sad but true.
That said, you should know the game by now. Ron Paul supporters did and took action.- XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 12/13/2007, -26/+2Who the ***** past the age of five doesn't understand that money can be very convincing?
- Yage2006, on 12/13/2007, -3/+5Thats yet to be seen he has to get nomitaed .
That said I would vote for either of them . But thats probly not going to be your choices.
I would even bet money you are going to be stuck choosing between hillary and guliani or huckabee so you will just have to choose the one thats sucks less .
- georgemason01, on 12/13/2007, -5/+14Money talks. Sad but true.
- jeanine22, on 12/13/2007, -20/+18as RP supporter I say lets ask Ron Paul to issue a press release condemning this absolute assault on democracy...
- spyd3rweb, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4100 of those already exist.
- Protonz, on 12/13/2007, -8/+8Secretly RP isn't a fan or democracy. 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. Too bad that 'democracy' gets a free pass... government power keeps expanding, and it all appears to be justified thanks to 'democracy'.
- madroneDorf, on 12/13/2007, -3/+16Ron Paul would probably say its well within the right of private companies to set requirements for appearing appearing on their shows, and they are under no obligation to have anyone.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -11/+3And he's exactly correct. No one should have any obligation to listen to Special K.
- notque, on 12/13/2007, -3/+8Unless he was being excluded.
- jmpeagle, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4no, he has a right to complain as does Kucinich. Neither of whom are proposing some legislation to force the parties/media to give them equal time. It's absolutely within the rights of the media/parties to exclude candidates, they are under no obligation and any obligation would be constitutional.
- ISIfunded911, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4One more proof real democracy (direct democracy) and capitalism are mutual enemies. Capitalism only accepts a fake (called representative) democracy it can control through massive capitalist propaganda and exclusion of the people who beg to differ.
- jmpeagle, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4no, he has a right to complain as does Kucinich. Neither of whom are proposing some legislation to force the parties/media to give them equal time. It's absolutely within the rights of the media/parties to exclude candidates, they are under no obligation and any obligation would be constitutional.
- numb, on 12/13/2007, -3/+10And he would say it's well within the rights of Kucinich supporters or any other interested parties to make their dissatisfaction known to the Des Moines Register.
- ISIfunded911, on 12/13/2007, -2/+3And if that protest does not change anything?
And if the corporate media give less air time to the candidates their owners hate?
- ISIfunded911, on 12/13/2007, -2/+3And if that protest does not change anything?
- CondoleezzaRice, on 12/13/2007, -2/+5You should take the time to read some of his speeches and statements.
http://www.house.gov/paul/legis_congrec.htm - Lolerdong, on 12/13/2007, -2/+0Then you don't know much about the guy you support.
- tedonion, on 12/13/2007, -4/+69The debate will sure be less interesting without Kucinich present.
- LordRedSnake, on 12/13/2007, -0/+0Yeah, but it's a shame he only gets to make it interesting a few times during the whole debate, if that. The Democratic Party (the machine, not the voters) should be ashamed of itself. How can you present yourself as a better alternative to the GOP when you treat your own party members this way?
- scm21st, on 12/13/2007, -1/+1Let me know how it goes.
- PSWTyrant, on 12/13/2007, -5/+21I wonder who owns that newspaper?
- notque, on 12/13/2007, -2/+20Gannett Company, Inc. (NYSE: GCI) is a publicly traded media holding company based in the United States and is the largest U.S. newspaper publisher as measured by total daily circulation. Its assets include the national newspaper USA TODAY, and the weekly USA Weekend. Its largest non-national newspaper is The Arizona Republic in Phoenix, and other large newspapers include The Indianapolis Star, The Des Moines Register, The Honolulu Advertiser and The Detroit Free Press. The company was founded in 1906 by Frank Gannett, and started in newspaper ownership. Its headquarters are in Tysons Corner, a suburb of Washington, D.C. The name of the company is pronounced "guh-NETT", with the emphasis on the second syllable.
One of the Directors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_E._Shalala
Prior to her appointment as University of Miami President, she served for eight years as Secretary of Health and Human Services under President Clinton.- MartyOO, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Will you look at that. Clinton !
- peaceofpie, on 12/14/2007, -0/+2Kucinich outshines all of the candidates, but this certainly explains the situation in most of the press. Let's show them their money can't buy our minds or our votes. Vote Kucinich.
- MartyOO, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Will you look at that. Clinton !
- adcat, on 12/13/2007, -2/+3The Sheinhardt Wig Corporation?
- ISIfunded911, on 12/13/2007, -0/+7From this story:
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/4453
the Gannet company is very closely linked to the military-industrial complex. That they want to get rid of the only democrat who is against the wars that help the military-industrial complex getting ever richer is not surprising.
Also: The Gannett media conglomerate shares directors with Lockheed McCorkindale), and Cummins engine (James A. Johnson).
http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/uav/12.htm- peaceofpie, on 12/14/2007, -0/+2Send this info to the Boston Globe (if they are not owned by Gannett yet) because back on Feb 11, 1996 they did a huge spread about the military profiteering taking over our government "deciders" and so on. Maybe they will find out more.
- notque, on 12/13/2007, -2/+20Gannett Company, Inc. (NYSE: GCI) is a publicly traded media holding company based in the United States and is the largest U.S. newspaper publisher as measured by total daily circulation. Its assets include the national newspaper USA TODAY, and the weekly USA Weekend. Its largest non-national newspaper is The Arizona Republic in Phoenix, and other large newspapers include The Indianapolis Star, The Des Moines Register, The Honolulu Advertiser and The Detroit Free Press. The company was founded in 1906 by Frank Gannett, and started in newspaper ownership. Its headquarters are in Tysons Corner, a suburb of Washington, D.C. The name of the company is pronounced "guh-NETT", with the emphasis on the second syllable.
- proseandpromise, on 12/13/2007, -5/+34Did they really boot Dennis and let in Dodd? I forget that guy is even running in between debates. This is a real shame. I hope no one takes this debate (or really any of the debates so far) seriously.
- looselips, on 12/13/2007, -2/+9Funny you bring that up the seriousness of the debates. It's not a shame, its a sham!
If anyone else watched todays Rep. Register debate they would have seen what to expect tomorrow.
Instead of adding my opinion here, let me just say the moderator of the focus group was none other than Frank Luntz.
Just watch him explain it in his own words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4
Yell out, ***** you Frank!
Fox can suck my ass as well.
- looselips, on 12/13/2007, -2/+9Funny you bring that up the seriousness of the debates. It's not a shame, its a sham!
- nsummy, on 12/13/2007, -19/+6I hate to say it, but how many times has he ran for president and not even came close. Hell he didn't even used to run for the democrats, he was for the green party. I'm sure I will get dugg down, but come on, if your campaign is run out of a home office you have no chance.
- Community1, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Kucinich never ran for the Green Party. You are either lying oe uniformed.
- Mast3rDigg3r, on 12/13/2007, -6/+12anderson cooper said it's because he's not polling >1% in iowa.. don't shoot the messenger
- pintomp3, on 12/13/2007, -3/+28candidate doesn't poll high because of unequal coverage, don't give candidate coverage because he isn't polling high. self-fulfilling prophecy.
- onetimer, on 12/13/2007, -14/+3So when are you going to draw a cut off? Shouldn't I be outraged because they didn't invite ME to the debate?
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -14/+3Bingo bango...anyone could declare themselves a candidate, and be outraged.
If Special K is so incompetent as to meet this one simple requirement, what makes anyone think he has any business running for president. It's obviously over his head. - rhedwolf, on 12/13/2007, -1/+9There are actually certain requirements you have to satisfy to be considered a candidate, and Kucinich fulfilled those.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -14/+3Bingo bango...anyone could declare themselves a candidate, and be outraged.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -13/+2Candidate fails to do what is required, and shows that his management style as mayor of Cleveland is still alive and not so well. Self fulfilling prophecy.
- XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 12/13/2007, -13/+1Shut up. How the hell did we get top-tier candidates then?
- pintomp3, on 12/13/2007, -2/+7corporate media pre-selected favorites. guliani on fox, hillary on cnn.
- undergrace, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2How the hell was Fred Thompson *first-tier* BEFORE HE EVEN ENTERED THE RACE?! Oh yeah, that's right, the MEDIA declared him to be, and the moment he announced his candidacy they gave him so much coverage that everyone now accepts the idea that he belongs up there (even though his popularity is clearly waning). People like Hunter and Tancredo have ALWAYS been described as third (or maybe second) tier, even in the first debate... Giuliani and McCain were first-tier... how can these labels be applied if no one even knows their positions?! Oh, that's right, the media is allowed to throw those little adjectives in hoping to influence people's ideas about the candidates. It's easy to brush someone's ideas off when you've always been told they were "lower" than others.
Pintomp3 is completely right, and you're a moron if you think the average American is going to research candidates thoroughly and not trust the "tiering" system the media controls.
- onetimer, on 12/13/2007, -14/+3So when are you going to draw a cut off? Shouldn't I be outraged because they didn't invite ME to the debate?
- proseandpromise, on 12/13/2007, -4/+19Anderson Cooper meant to say, "because we don't give a &^%$ about anyone but Hillary" but he messed up... you know, slip of the tongue.
- BTime, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5Polls are irrelevant anyhow as they can be easily manipulated by the pollster.
- ostm444, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3That's not true. As of 12/10/07 in Iowa, he's polling 2% (per Rassmussen) where they have him ahead of Dodd. He's also at polled at 1% (per Strategic Vision) as of 12/9/07.
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/ - Bing11, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1The major media is only mentioning Kucinich as an "impossibility" (when they mention him at all). Hard to overcome that idea when polled then, especially when the pollsters target demographics they want in their "random" samplings.
- id10tjoeuser, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2F U Frank!
- pintomp3, on 12/13/2007, -3/+28candidate doesn't poll high because of unequal coverage, don't give candidate coverage because he isn't polling high. self-fulfilling prophecy.
- BenMuldowney74, on 12/13/2007, -6/+26i wish the oligarchs would just tell us who to vote for now and lets get it over with. why the pretending? bring in al gore now and tell us how he is going to save the world. yawn... i call bull chit on all of these criminals.
- Bagos1, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5I'm not a Dem, but this man's voice should not be silenced.
- fadeout, on 12/13/2007, -16/+4Wow, kind of amazing he doesn't even have an office. Is he really *that* broke? Even guys running for city council here have a tiny store front in a strip mall..
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -12/+5I don't think it's a question of being broke...it's really more of an indictment on his "management" style...
Look at what he did while mayor of Cleveland, and this failure won't surprise you at all.- pintomp3, on 12/13/2007, -2/+11"In 1998 the council honored him for having the "courage and foresight" to stand up to the banks and saving the city an estimated $195 million between 1985 and 1995."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kucinich- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -7/+3"The Kucinich administration is often regarded as one of the most tumultuous in Cleveland's history. Kucinich relied heavily on confrontation politics as a solution to problems, a style that made him seem bombastic to the general public. His cabinet was often criticized for including members who were too young or inexperienced to handle their respective positions. For example, Kucinich appointed 24-year-old attorney Joseph Tegreene as his finance director, a move that alarmed business leaders due to Tegreene's minimal financial experience (eight months as a stockbroker)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayoral_administratio ...
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -7/+3"The Kucinich administration is often regarded as one of the most tumultuous in Cleveland's history. Kucinich relied heavily on confrontation politics as a solution to problems, a style that made him seem bombastic to the general public. His cabinet was often criticized for including members who were too young or inexperienced to handle their respective positions. For example, Kucinich appointed 24-year-old attorney Joseph Tegreene as his finance director, a move that alarmed business leaders due to Tegreene's minimal financial experience (eight months as a stockbroker)."
- pintomp3, on 12/13/2007, -2/+11"In 1998 the council honored him for having the "courage and foresight" to stand up to the banks and saving the city an estimated $195 million between 1985 and 1995."
- Bing11, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3I take it you missed the part where he DOES have an office -- just the fact that it's not a storefront one just *happens* to be against the rules.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -12/+5I don't think it's a question of being broke...it's really more of an indictment on his "management" style...
- pintomp3, on 12/13/2007, -3/+26well, we can't have anyone who represents real change after all.
- daoism, on 12/13/2007, -3/+46That's really too bad that's he's unfairly excluded (I mean WHO CARES if he has a guy working out of a home office) Kucinich offers a thought provoking perspective to the debates which is not contrived or catered to the media. His opinions matter because it offers diversity. I think the public lose on this call.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -12/+2You could make the same argument for tons of people. Hell, you could declare yourself a candidate and demand to be placed on the debate....Kucinich failed to meet the requirement (that he should have been able to understand, or at least had someone who understood it), thus, he's boned.
- an10ae, on 12/13/2007, -4/+10boo!
f des moines anyway - Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -11/+19He's not on the NWO payroll like Paul so they have to shut them both up. Pathetic.
- MikeFallopian, on 12/13/2007, -9/+3Ah, the good old NWO. A meaningless 3 letter acronym that can apparently explain every bad thing that happens to people of a certain political persuasion. Ron Paul got cut off in traffic? DAMN THAT NWO!
- Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -3/+5Research!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1etgsNU46s4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wEfdUuPeus0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FBYbgRlIqlc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0
Wake up! - Bamborzled, on 12/13/2007, -3/+3Yes, because I always look to the ultra-reliable "youtube.com" when I'm researching.
And I see the Digg "NWO" will soon bury my comment.- Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6I see, so presidents and world leaders ON VIDEO discussing a New World Order is NOT researching? What else do you want?
Ridiculous. It's no wonder this country is a travesty. People can't even recognize the truth when it's spoken to them.
- Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6I see, so presidents and world leaders ON VIDEO discussing a New World Order is NOT researching? What else do you want?
- terrordome, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2The NWO is just that, the new (capitalist) world order. Although it's not exactly new. Once there is another world order, that will be the NWO.
- Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -3/+5Research!
- looselips, on 12/13/2007, -1/+3Source it, and you just got my donation moved up to the 15th for Dennis instead. Perhaps, I will just say ***** it, and spend the money on a passport instead.
- Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -1/+5I worded that poorly, both of them are not NWO and as far as I can tell the only two who aren't on the payroll in this election. Paul is my first choice but DK second.
- Lolerdong, on 12/13/2007, -4/+1You don't even know what they stand for and you're a truther.
It's a private organization, if you support Ron Paul you'd be happy that they aren't being forced to have anyone. Let the market decide.
You know what makes me want to vomit BLOOD? Most of you teenage ignorant high school drop out diggers support both Ron Paul and Dennis. They are LIGHT YEARS apart in terms of philosophy. You people have done no research and a just jumping on internet bandwagons to make yourself feel better.
And almost none of you will actually vote- Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -1/+1Whatever troll, go vote for Hitlery or Ghouliani. Oh and btw, I'm a tad older than that you idiot.
- SouthsideIrish, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1How is a Libertarian and a Socialist not light years apart in terms of philosophy? One believes that government can solve all problems and the other believers that government creates those problems.
- Lolerdong, on 12/13/2007, -4/+1You don't even know what they stand for and you're a truther.
- Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -1/+5I worded that poorly, both of them are not NWO and as far as I can tell the only two who aren't on the payroll in this election. Paul is my first choice but DK second.
- parabolee, on 12/13/2007, -1/+1Sorry Look4Truth but saying "you need to wake up" is insulting. You are no more awake because you have chosen to believe one conspiracy theory over the others. People who are awake consider the possibility but do not accept a "truth" that is an unsubstantiated theory at best. The world is far more complex than some imaginary right wing conspiracy theory of elites (usually Jews when you push the NWO believers) that run everything with a unified agenda. The only unified agenda among the powerful/wealthy is power and wealth. The far-right wing are too small minded to understand the complexities of a conspiracy, you think because there is proof of a conspiracy then it is proof of a unified agenda, nonsense.
There are many powerful groups with conflicting agendas, but all are unified only in power and wealth (but not in sharing that power/wealth). And there are many of these groups that do what they do because they feel it is right and just, and some of them probably are and most are not. So every now and again their agendas will overlap and they will work together but this idea that there is a group called the New World Order that are all together in wanting to create a one world government and all agree on how it should be run is pure madness.
you think everyone that attends the Council on Foreign Relations meetings agree's with everyone else that attends? And how is it most attendee's are wealthy capitalists and then the right wing claim they are all plotting a socialist one world government? Conflicting ideals much?
Far too often the far right wing say NWO when they don't have the balls to repeat the lie that is "jewish bankers that run everything".
I applaud your free thinking and critical of authority thought process but don't start believing some wacky belief that all bad things that happen on a political level is the work of a single unified group of evil people.
The world is a big bad place full of bad people trying to manipulate us, but they just because there are many people trying to manipulate you does not mean they are all doing it with the same agenda.- Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1Yeah ok, ignore the actual words, on video, from multiple world leaders. Just a big conspiracy theory that the global leaders like to talk about.
- MikeFallopian, on 12/13/2007, -9/+3Ah, the good old NWO. A meaningless 3 letter acronym that can apparently explain every bad thing that happens to people of a certain political persuasion. Ron Paul got cut off in traffic? DAMN THAT NWO!
- beejive, on 12/13/2007, -9/+69When Ron Paul gets excluded - its red alert. Kucinich is getting excluded for the same reasons - media bias- and we should be just as appalled (no pun intended). Internet user's support for equal access in the political process shouldn't be attached to just one candidate. I'm a Ron Paul supporter, but the Media has it easy if they can shut out one candidate and thereby silence the issue of exclusion. We need to support anyone who gets shutout - democrat or republican!
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -28/+4Ron Paul actually follows the rules...unlike Special K, who proves once again that someone riding the short bus doesn't need to be running for president.
- siszam, on 12/13/2007, -3/+13Using "Special K" instead of correctly addressing Kucinich by his name doesn't make him look bad. It makes you look childish and desperate to get attention and to tear down someone you feel threatened by. Why do people like you feel so angry at the thought of our nation being at peace or all citizens having equal health care? How corrupt your soul must be to support a party who cheers the death of the ill, the slaughter of our soldiers and the neglect of our poor. You're a very small person.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -10/+3He's a socialist, thus, I don't agree with his policies.
Angry? Hardly...more like amused. Very amused.
Special K can't deliver 100% equal health care. You have no idea about my thoughts on soldiers - especially since I come from a long line of military officers. You have no idea on my thoughts on the poor. You have no idea about anything, except that I think special K is a lying scumbag who would say anything to get elected. And incompetent to boot.
Because I think your candidate is a joke, you seem to feel you can pass moral judgment upon me. Feel free...I could care less....- niczar, on 12/13/2007, -1/+8Dear Badgat,
The 50's have called, and they want they jingoistic McCarthyism back.
Thankyouverymuch
- niczar, on 12/13/2007, -1/+8Dear Badgat,
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -10/+3He's a socialist, thus, I don't agree with his policies.
- looselips, on 12/13/2007, -2/+6It explains why a troll like you is not running, and why you appear to know so much about the short bus.
It would be great to see both RP and DK as their respected parties nomination, or as running mates.
You trolling against someone with close to the same ideals who is running in the other party makes absolutely zero sense. And only suggests XXXXXXXXXXX should keep doing the same back to the RP board.- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -8/+2Apparently you rode the short bus. Kucinich has NOTHING in common with Ron Paul. Their ideas are completely opposed...Paul supports the Constitution as framed, Special K supports bending it to meet whatever his politics of the time are...which is socialism right now.
- gofalcons, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1If you disagree with DK then fine, but at least have respect for a man who, just like RP, doesn't pander or change his message to fit in wherever he is. I honestly would expect you to know that being a RP supporter.
- siszam, on 12/13/2007, -3/+13Using "Special K" instead of correctly addressing Kucinich by his name doesn't make him look bad. It makes you look childish and desperate to get attention and to tear down someone you feel threatened by. Why do people like you feel so angry at the thought of our nation being at peace or all citizens having equal health care? How corrupt your soul must be to support a party who cheers the death of the ill, the slaughter of our soldiers and the neglect of our poor. You're a very small person.
- numb, on 12/13/2007, -2/+16Right on beejive. I'm libertarian, but I appreciate the fact that Kucinich is an honest guy that supports the constitution. I truly am as "appalled" that this happened to Dennis as I would be if it happened to Paul. It's just not feasible for everyone to agree on everything, but we're all getting screwed when ***** like this happens. We need to end this despicable behavior.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -10/+2Whoa...supports the Constitution? More like bends it to meet his socialist agenda.
- Lewie, on 12/13/2007, -2/+9Where in the Constitution does it say "NO SOCIALISM" or "NO HEALTH CARE"? If you've read the constitution, you will understand that it only gives the ground rules for government. It says who can do what and for how long, in addition to a list of basic human rights. It never said anything about the FCC, CIA, IRS, or any other agency or program!
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -7/+2Yes...and your whole socialist agenda, including "free" healthcare, and the rest of the executive branch agencies are WAY BEYOND what the federal government is authorized to do.
- terrordome, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2What point are you trying to make? That you are clueless about socialist ideology?
- Lewie, on 12/13/2007, -2/+9Where in the Constitution does it say "NO SOCIALISM" or "NO HEALTH CARE"? If you've read the constitution, you will understand that it only gives the ground rules for government. It says who can do what and for how long, in addition to a list of basic human rights. It never said anything about the FCC, CIA, IRS, or any other agency or program!
- Lolerdong, on 12/13/2007, -2/+0You're not a libertarian if you're appalled by this.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -10/+2Whoa...supports the Constitution? More like bends it to meet his socialist agenda.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -28/+4Ron Paul actually follows the rules...unlike Special K, who proves once again that someone riding the short bus doesn't need to be running for president.
- StarofTroy, on 12/13/2007, -1/+21The media is already telling us to vote for Hillary. But they're so fond of polls why don't they quote these? Scary scary stuff.
- kreatre2007, on 12/13/2007, -31/+5Kucinich is irrelevant... Just like Ron Paul. Neither of them have a snowball's chance in hell of getting the nomination.
- beejive, on 12/13/2007, -4/+14Exactly, but not because of their positions, but because they are treated as fringe candidates. BUT they do shape the discussion and force the major candidates to address issues they'd rather dodge. Thats obvious - and your simplistic dismissive attitude makes you look like an apathetic, status quo dick.
- kreatre2007, on 12/13/2007, -5/+2I'm any thing but status quo. I merely don't agree with these guys. They represent the fringe of the Democratic and Republican parties. I'm a very logical and realistic person. Honestly, I don't like any of the candidates out there. I'm very disappointed in the choices that we have. I have never been apathetic. Don't draw conclusions from a single statement... Dick!!
- Bing11, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5Thank you for letting us know not to waste a vote on them, Mr. Hannity.
- terrordome, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4"It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it."
-- Eugene V. Debs
- beejive, on 12/13/2007, -4/+14Exactly, but not because of their positions, but because they are treated as fringe candidates. BUT they do shape the discussion and force the major candidates to address issues they'd rather dodge. Thats obvious - and your simplistic dismissive attitude makes you look like an apathetic, status quo dick.
- darkciti2, on 12/13/2007, -3/+38What the ***** is happening to our COUNTRY!?! The country where people repeatedly gave their lives JUST TRYING to keep Old Glory flying high...
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -16/+1Why are you outraged? And what the hell does anything you said have to do with any of this?
- Yage2006, on 12/13/2007, -4/+2WTF is old glory is that like old spice or something ?
- Observant1, on 12/13/2007, -1/+3it's pretty simple to understand once you research into Prescott Bush's NWO NAZI connection, Operation Paperclip, the formation of the CIA with Bush senior.. all the elements are there: propaganda artists, secret service, torture, secrecy in government, brownshirt programs and domestic spying.. the Nazi's didnt lose a war, they just changed their base of operations to the US ! you'd have to look into it for yourself, THIS is the truth of it, it HAS happened HERE !
- ponycat, on 12/13/2007, -11/+17Buried for inaccuracy. It wasn't cause the field director operates from a home office, it was because Kucinich is an honest candidate who won't tow the party line.
- adm58, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2It's toe. T-O-E. Look up the etymology of that idiom.
- notque, on 12/13/2007, -4/+25Call, and Email. We must bomb them with complaints. I intend to call often tomorrow.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -14/+3All you will accomplish is showing what douche bags Kucinich supporters are...
- Lewie, on 12/13/2007, -2/+8Yeah, supporting a candidate is douchebaggary!
- Observant1, on 12/13/2007, -2/+2as opposed to being an enema nozzle like you maybe?
- Lolerdong, on 12/13/2007, -3/+1I'm sure they'll take him more seriously when 4 people harass them all day.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -14/+3All you will accomplish is showing what douche bags Kucinich supporters are...
- Community1, on 12/13/2007, -4/+22This is WHAT HAPPENS TO DEMOCRACY, when the media is in private hands! SHAME! Drop your arbitrary criteria and include KUCINICH as well as all the presidential candidates you money hungry pigs! Yes, that includes you Des Moines Register.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -13/+4Ok...and you think it's better if media is in public hands?
I'll take private over having the state own media any day of the week.- Community1, on 12/13/2007, -2/+10It is a private decision to censor a public election. All the candidates should be heard.
- roystgnr, on 12/13/2007, -2/+1Keep digging badqat down, you naive hippies. I'm sure it would be just *awesome* if the media was run by the same people as FEMA, the US military, the CIA, etc, right? Surely no government-run organization would dare try to silence Dennis Kucinich!
- terrordome, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Public media is not state media. State media is private media provided by the state. Corporate media is private media provided by corporations.
- badqat, on 12/13/2007, -13/+4Ok...and you think it's better if media is in public hands?
- madroneDorf, on 12/13/2007, -18/+5If Kucinich met the requirements he would have got in the debate, it wasn't the monitor saying "This dennis guy is crap, lets not include him" its
"YOu have to do A, B and C to be in the debate"
Kucinich did not do A, B and C, so he wasn't in the debate- vegascoop, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6But you wonder... When did they set the standards? 3 days before the debate after pre-determining who would qualify?
- Lolerdong, on 12/13/2007, -0/+0Yeha it's not like he hasn't run for president before. Oh wait he has.
- vegascoop, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6But you wonder... When did they set the standards? 3 days before the debate after pre-determining who would qualify?
- HoldenCfld, on 12/13/2007, -14/+6"The highest polling Democratic Presidential candidate among the Party's progressive, grassroots, activist base, Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich"
Nice framing there, but no matter the framing, he's not a top poller when it comes to the ones that matter at all.- notque, on 12/13/2007, -4/+8Like corporations.
- HoldenCfld, on 12/13/2007, -4/+2Like the polls that show how little of the votes he's going to get.
I don't dislike the guy, I just think that was funny framing.
- HoldenCfld, on 12/13/2007, -4/+2Like the polls that show how little of the votes he's going to get.
- notque, on 12/13/2007, -4/+8Like corporations.
- eean, on 12/13/2007, -12/+5They are actually very good set of requirements I thought. Better then using polls. If you don't even have a HQ with a paid staffer by this point, you're not a serious candidate.
- Lewie, on 12/13/2007, -1/+7So you have to be rich to be a serious candidate? I don't see that anywhere in the Constitution.
- Treoinmypocket, on 12/13/2007, -6/+43Ron Paul gets locked out of debates for the Republicans, Kucinich for the Dems...we have to wake up and actually DO something people. BOTH these parties want nothing more than to retain or regain power.
They don't give a ***** about you or what you think - unless its what they TOLD you to think.
You still have the power of the write in ballot - USE IT- livestradamus, on 12/13/2007, -3/+13Both parties are basically the same. Vote for the person who you feel is the right one for the job, never mind what party they represent.
DK & RP are very different, but they present a threat the ruling elites within their own party.
I could really care who wins out of those 2; a change must come. - looselips, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Before we all decide this as a last resort, lets please debate and decide who would have a greater chance so it doesn't split the vote and ruin our last chance to vote as a democracy.
- Lolerdong, on 12/13/2007, -1/+0
It's a private organization, if you support Ron Paul you'd be happy that they aren't being forced to have anyone. Let the market decide.
You know what makes me want to vomit BLOOD? Most of you teenage ignorant high school drop out diggers support both Ron Paul and Dennis. They are LIGHT YEARS apart in terms of philosophy. You people have done no research and a just jumping on internet bandwagons to make yourself feel better.
And almost none of you will actually vote.
- livestradamus, on 12/13/2007, -3/+13Both parties are basically the same. Vote for the person who you feel is the right one for the job, never mind what party they represent.
- trogle, on 12/13/2007, -3/+24Why should personal wealth be a determining factor in public debates? Frustrating at very least.
- Lolerdong, on 12/13/2007, -3/+0What does that have to do with this?
- Community1, on 12/13/2007, -3/+34Call the Des Moines Register at 1-800-247-5346 and protest their private decision to censor a public election. The Iowa Caucus has National Implications and the Des Moines Register is excluding Dennis Kucinich from the Debate based on local politics. If that infuriates you, step up and call the Des Moines Register at 1-800-247-5346.
Better yet, call their Editorial Board too:
Carol Hunter - 515-284-8502
Laura Hollingsworth - 515-284-8041
Those of you calling The Des Moines Register to prtest their censorship of Kucinich, should also email their editors at the following...
Carol Hunter - 515-284-8502
chunter@dmreg.com
Laura Hollingsworth - 515-284-8041
Lhollingsworth@dmreg.com
They were scared of having a repeat of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWWBwf2wHE
Let the Des Moines Register know at 1-800-247-5346- aboyd, on 12/13/2007, -1/+14Kucinich is a badass in that video. His blunt answers were great.
Wolf: "You were the only one to vote against the Patriot Act..."
Dennis: "Yeah, because I read it." - Sep11insidejob, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3Dennis is the man!!!
- aboyd, on 12/13/2007, -1/+14Kucinich is a badass in that video. His blunt answers were great.
- thewump, on 12/13/2007, -5/+15Sadly DK hasn't managed to get the same army behind him as RP. Nothing would please me more than a DK / RP ticket. No doubt you will have many of us RP supporters backing you up when we see DK being excluded.
- id10tjoeuser, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2While both are honest candidates and I would be proud to have either at the helm of this great nation, at the end of the day, one is a economic liberal, the other is a economic conservative. I think a DK/Mike Gravel ticket would be the shizle!
- SouthsideIrish, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1And most of the RP supporters will take a pass on voting for this ticket. I would end up voting for whomever is the Libertarian candidate, since I would never vote for a socialist candidate.
- FascistNation, on 12/13/2007, -4/+8I figured it wouldn't be much more until the Democrats dumped the last remaining anti-war candidate from the debates. Now yo will have to settle for Johnny come lately's. And they won't win the nomination. Suckers. Antiwar my ass. Not a lick of difference between the two parties.
- shunter99, on 12/13/2007, -1/+14Speak louder than the MSM on Dec 15.
http://www.december152007.com - searob1, on 12/13/2007, -14/+4The conspiracy theory nuts and DK spammers are out in full force on Digg tonight!
- Look4Truth, on 12/13/2007, -1/+11And so are the brain dead zombies who wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the face.
- babcat, on 12/13/2007, -3/+24I'm a Ron Paul supporter but this is absolutely crazy! Kucinich is the only "real" democrat!
- PrettyMuchBryce, on 12/13/2007, -0/+7With Ron Paul being the only real republican and Kucinich being the only real democrat there should be a third party for the rest of these assholes called the ***** party.
- Lolerdong, on 12/13/2007, -0/+0Then you shouldn't like Kucinich.
- sanic11, on 12/13/2007, -3/+11Are you kidding me? They invite Alan Keyes and not Kucinich? The Des Moines Register is a joke and the moderator of tonight's Republican Debate was just plain awful. I'm not looking forward to the Democratic Debate.
- AvangionQ, on 12/13/2007, -1/+14Unbelievable - they make arbitrary rules for who can and cannot debate, rules which go against polling results. Perhaps if there are enough voices of dissent, the Des Moines Register Debate may feel the pressure and revise their standing policies.
- andrgo, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6I'm surprised they don't require candidates to wear a certain color of underwear for crying out loud, this is ridiculous!
- andrgo, on 12/13/2007, -1/+14At least I can say I did my part, left a couple of 'meaningful' voicemails.
Everyone else should do the same, DO NOT let the media think they can control this election! - bingobongony, on 12/13/2007, -14/+1Good. IT is about time they start eliminating hte jokes. There is simply not enough time for thee debates with 10 canddiates. By now, if you are not getting more than 1-2%, you do not deserve air time.
- rhedwolf, on 12/13/2007, -1/+5Poll numbers are meaningless until the votes have been cast. Watch this video if you think pre-election polls have any value whatsoever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4
- ftwn00b, on 12/13/2007, -1/+11thats some *****. ***** the media
- saahmed, on 12/13/2007, -1/+8And they let Alan Keyes in the Republican debate? damn.
- caponumen, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6MSM: Nope no patterns here, ignore that giant flapping paisley flag behind the curtain.
- Tommyhawk, on 12/13/2007, -8/+1ENOUGH DEBATES ALREADY IM SO TIRED OF DEBATES
- amd9495, on 12/13/2007, -1/+10Mike Gravel, now Dennis. They will probably try to exclude Ron Paul next. Damn the military-industrial complex!
- Gemfinder, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1Wrong party. R.P.'s running with the elephants.
They'll probably stiff Gov. Richardson next, if he gets any closer to the front-runners.
- Gemfinder, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1Wrong party. R.P.'s running with the elephants.
- colberrep, on 12/13/2007, -0/+16Contact the Des Moines Register and urge them to include Dennis Kucinich in their debate.
Letters to the editor e-mail: letters@dmreg.com
Circulation Customer Service
(877) 424-0225
Telephone switchboard
Iowa: (800) 532-1455
Outside Iowa: (800) 247-5346- vwvan, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2i called them on the outside iowa line just now and got through. way to go. the digg effect lives.
- Gemfinder, on 12/13/2007, -0/+12They're carrying it on CNN. There's a red flag right there. Remember how Mr. Blitzer kept snubbing and cutting Dennis off in the last Democratic Party debate? He practically had to jump on top of his podium, wave his arms and yell before anyone paid him any attention.
This is straight-up *****, coming or going. - pezbrigade, on 12/13/2007, -0/+6diggerydood had a good idea. call 800-247-5346 and ask for Carolyn Washburn. She didn't answer but I left a message on her machine asking her to call me back and explain why Kucinich wasn't included in the debate. It'd be nice if she had about 500 messages to the same effect to sort through =D
- vwvan, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2this worked. I just got through, was switched to the newsroom and talked to karen. they are feeling the heat over this one.
- stealthc, on 12/13/2007, -5/+2After reading what they said about him in Cleveland, I'm not too broken up about his exclusion. "The fighting politician" is just a character he plays. He's a great media manipulator and a strong preacher, but according to the article about him from Cleveland, he ran that town into the ground, appointing almost underage Kucinich loyalists with no experience to public offices.
- scm21st, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Who is "they"?
- peaceofpie, on 12/14/2007, -0/+2The truth haters.
- GoreTex, on 12/14/2007, -0/+3DK was in office for 2years in cleveland however wiki sources states Cleveland has admitted due to one particular policy he made has saved them over $120+ for not selling the city electric company.
- TrevaLVF, on 12/14/2007, -0/+3I've seen this message by stealthc on another Kucinich related digg post. As I've explained before, the city was being run into the ground before Kucinich ever became mayor there. Kucinich was under pressure by bankers and investors wanting to take over Cleveland's publicly owned utility company to privatize it so they could buy it, jack up rates (Like Gulf Power does) and let quality degrade from neglect. As I said before, Kucinich spared Cleveland residents this type of agony, which is why they didn't endure what Californians went through, and what people along the Northeast did when they went through a major black out a few years back.
Kucinich was smeared in the press through a vindictive campaign spear-headed by the people that were pressuring him to sell out. It cost him re-election in the Mayor race. Years later, the people of Cleveland realized, he did them a big favor. It's a shame, this smear campaign continues to run through an echo chamber of people that don't know the facts, including ones that do not want to get their facts straight before they repeat inaccurate rumors.
- scm21st, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Who is "they"?
- stealthc, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1http://www.clevescene.com/2007-12-05/news/the-king ...
- ganymede2010, on 12/13/2007, -5/+2Do you all you Ron Paul supporters support his views on 911? He's a regular on Alex Jones Show. The reason I ask is simple. 911 truthers are berated on this site. While Ron Paul, (a 911 truther) gets praised to exalted status?
- rv36116, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Hey, way to lie and expect Ron Paul supporters not to notice, FAIL. By the way, this is an article about Kucinich, not RP (I'm a supporter).
- sanic11, on 12/13/2007, -1/+1As far as I can tell, Ron Paul is not a 911 Conspiracy Theorists like the Truthers running around here. He simply understands that our intervention in the Middle East (supporting authoritarian regimes, keeping troops in Saudi Arabia and biased support for Israel) is the reason Al Qeada attacked us. Ron Paul deserves the respect he receives.
I'm not a supporter of his because I disagree with his idea of dismantling a number of the social service programs this country provides, but I have total respect for his integrity and honesty about what he believes, as well as his thorough understanding of the history of U.S. Foreign Policy. - SouthsideIrish, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1There are lots and lots of supporters of RP. I have friends that are minarchists, 911 truthers, 20 something anti-war types, green and me the anarco-capitalist. I would love if the 911 truthers would go away, but they aren't and RP does not believe any of there theories, but he still does believe the government story but he is willing to give them an investigation.
I wish the wackaloons would go away, but we need all of the warm bodies we can get to go door to door.
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