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Clinton Team Acknowledges $20 Million Debt
washingtonpost.com — Clinton aides continued to insist that she will remain in the race even while confirming that she is $20 million in debt. "The voters are going to decide this," senior adviser Howard Wolfson said on "Fox News Sunday," acknowledging the $20 million figure. "There is no reason for her not to continue this process."
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- zephyear, on 05/12/2008, -5/+108The voters already decided this.
- Zarokima, on 05/12/2008, -5/+28As the 2000 election showed, the voters unfortunately don't decide anything.
- ProjectGSX, on 05/12/2008, -11/+8Are Obama supporters even going to show up in mass like they have previously, since the assumption is that he has already won?
- Jexie, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6I think so, it must be fun to completely bury Hillary. I wish I could get in on it. Don't know why people would digg you down over that though, its not an unreasonable question.
- ProjectGSX, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Thats a good point. If I had the chance to add another nail into the coffin I would be all over it.
- Jexie, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6I think so, it must be fun to completely bury Hillary. I wish I could get in on it. Don't know why people would digg you down over that though, its not an unreasonable question.
- dafragsta, on 05/12/2008, -1/+6At this point in the game, I'm an Obama supporter, unless by some miracle, Ron Paul snatches the Republican nomination, but let's be honest with ourselves, and I don't just mean about Ron Paul. Is her deficit in the popular vote really that deep? She is expected to win West Virginia by a wide margin, and I can't understand how she could still be in it rationally if it's truly impossible for her to win the nomination.
Hillary is a nasty skank bitch, but she's still in the running (as in, has a chance at the popular vote) until she quits, correct?- eibborjames, on 05/12/2008, -3/+2how many people live in w. virginia, 5, 6 people?
I drove through w. virginia, once, thank god. Took about 6 minutes. - betterth, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2NO NO NO!
THE POPULAR VOTE MEANS NOTHING!
If you want it to mean something, talk to your democratic representatives and have things changed.
But as it stands, the popular vote is useless and worthless.
Hillary Clinton signed a contract with the DNC stating legally her adherence to the rules of that party and convention. The delegate count is ALL that matters.
She cannot win, without changing the rules.
If she changes the rules, she cannot win.
Therefore, she can not win in any scenario. - kufu91, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2if hillary gets every single voter in West Virginia, 70% in every other remaining state, and gets half the Superdelegates that have not endorsed (a fair assumption to make to match the current tie in the other super delegates), Obama still wins with a 70 delegate lead.
- eibborjames, on 05/12/2008, -3/+2how many people live in w. virginia, 5, 6 people?
- Egoist, on 05/12/2008, -6/+4Perhaps I'm too level headed for Digg, but last I looked the two were still neck and neck (16.7m vs 16.6m). That doesn't sound very decided to me.
- Defuser, on 05/12/2008, -2/+7Oh, please. You're apparently not paying much attention, or you're just a Hillary shill. It's statistically impossible for Hillary to win at this point. I don't particularly care if she continues to pour money on a lost cause, but at this point Obama would literally have to spontaneously combust for Hillary to get the nomination. But hey, keep living in denial if you want. It's a free country. Personally, I think the Obama/Hillary battle is the best thing that could possibly happen for Obama. It keeps his name in the spotlight instead of McCain's. Plus, McCain can't attack Obama while Hillary is still in the race.
- betterth, on 05/12/2008, -2/+4Popular vote means nothing.
The rules are: pledged delegates. She cannot win pledged delegates.
As for your info -- you're incorrect.
Obama +736,579
Unless you're including both MI and FL, which, according to the rules both candidates agreed to in writing, aren't included.
If you include FL, it's Obama +441,807
Now, if you're going to include MI than you're a damn fool because Obama RIGHTFULLY got 0 votes in MI. To include them is not only totally illogical, but completely dishonest.
Anyways, it's irrelevant. If you want the popular vote to count, talk to your democratic representation and have things changed.- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -6/+0****crickets**** (on the reply side of "Egoist")
lol
Obama/ Webb 08
- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -6/+0****crickets**** (on the reply side of "Egoist")
- Egoist, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2Hilarious how the left embrace the electoral college-style system only when it suits their candidate. The popular vote was mighty important to you all back in 2000 and 2004.
I understand that you like to call people names, Defuser, as it makes you feel like you're making a coherent point, but I'm not voting for either Hillary or Obama. Their socialist/feel-good policies will wreck our countries in ways that can't even be imagined now.
You only have to look back to the Democratic primary of 1984 to see a race that wasn't over until it was over. Being a part of a party that allows a large group of elites who sell their votes to the highest bidder to choose your candidates for you, you should wait and see how it pans out.
I honestly believe that the reason so many people want Hillary to drop out isn't so much just to help Obama as much as they don't want to be in a situation where the truth of your party comes out -- that a large group of elites can override the wishes of the rest of the party. I would love to see that day, however.
- jabberwolf, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4Exactly - so include the Floria voters!
PS - 20 public speeches by Bill = break even = no problem!- iainc, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5What about the FL voters who didn't vote because they were told they're state had been disqualified for illegally moving up the primary date?
They should pay for a do-over or shut the ***** up. - m0tbaillie, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2Hillary should pay for a do-over or shut the ***** up. FL and MI don't have the extra money to spare and have already made this abundantly clear. However, being $20m in debt I doubt Ms. Clinton is in any position to front cash for anything.
- betterth, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Okay let's add the Florida voters, that's several hundred thousand for Mrs Clinton and... 0 for Obama.
Sounds real fair to me. Let's punish a candidate for playing by the rules, than mock and insult him for it afterwards. Let's insinuate he wants to disenfranchise voters, when ironically, Hillary is attempting to do just that.
She got her name in Florida, and Barack didn't. Now she wants the results counted. She effectively wants to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of Obama voters with her actions.- mbonzo531, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Clinton should have the florida votes subtracted from her total for breaking the rules herself and campaigning in a state she promissed she wouldn't. She is lucky they didn't punish her at all.
I can't wait for her mission accomplished speach in September when she admits that she was running to be second place the whole time... so technically she won!
- mbonzo531, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Clinton should have the florida votes subtracted from her total for breaking the rules herself and campaigning in a state she promissed she wouldn't. She is lucky they didn't punish her at all.
- iainc, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5What about the FL voters who didn't vote because they were told they're state had been disqualified for illegally moving up the primary date?
- EffYoo, on 05/12/2008, -1/+73It isn't debt if it's her own money that she loaned to her campaign. She only refers to it as 'debt' to hide the fact that she'll be taking future campaign contributions and putting them into her own pockets.
- DaviDTC, on 05/12/2008, -0/+14If I supported Clinton, donated money to her and I saw that she is including her own donation into the debt, I would be asking for my money back too.
- DiggzDE, on 05/12/2008, -0/+20Still, if she can't finance her own campaign properly (and legally) how is anyone supposed to expect her to be able to run our entire country and handle the current issues with our economy? Madness!
- toastgodsupreme, on 05/12/2008, -2/+5Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
- DiggzDE, on 05/12/2008, -3/+2I have a newsletter? 0_o Tell whoever writes it for me that I am grateful. lol.
- Happy_Phantom, on 05/12/2008, -2/+3The Simpsons
- DiggzDE, on 05/12/2008, -3/+2I have a newsletter? 0_o Tell whoever writes it for me that I am grateful. lol.
- toastgodsupreme, on 05/12/2008, -2/+5Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
- FearlessFreep, on 05/12/2008, -0/+4Only about $11M is money she leant the campaign. The rest is outstanding bills to various groups involved in the campaign. Hint: If she asks you to cater a party...get cash up front
- trixterIreland, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4it is debt if it was a loan to her campaign. The campaign is a legal entity like a business. If you run a business you may loan it money and later repay yourself (even with interest if you wanted) there is nothing to say that a loan may not come from individuals. So even though it is her money, by structuring it the way she did she is entitled legally to repayment. Although if she were to take the first money in as repayment she would have to cut another loan to her campaign to keep it going, so she is more likely to only repay herself if she can get a considerable amount of donations, and its unlikely she will see over $20M (some of the debt may be to others who would be quite upset if she repaid herself first) in donations.
The campaign may have financing via a 3rd entity that way she can recoup the losses when/if she runs for senate again. By structuring it this way a campaign finance fund is for the person not the race, as a result they are able to roll over money from one year to the next, and they are able to run for different offices using the same money. At retirement they can often cash out any surpluses, which some have been known to have a spare mil or two in their funds.
This is not uncommon for most politicians to set things up this way, it would not suprise me if obama, mccain and paul all have similar things.
- Krisgi, on 05/12/2008, -2/+34I can't wait until Obama kicks her ass in Oregon. The only significant state left which could swing to him in November... Where are the superdelegates? Closed-mouthed until then, I imagine.
- aldenhg, on 05/12/2008, -0/+7DeFazio and Wu are already for Obama. It looks like Kulongoski and Hooley will be staying by Hillary's side and I've heard rumors that Wyden is, too. The rest of them will probably wait until after the primary to have a big old Obama lovefest, the size of which will probably depend on his margin of victory.
- billessig, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3Side note: DeFazio rocks, so does Wu. I did some campaign work for Obama here in Eugene, Oregon and I can say that at least here, the Obama bumper stickers and yard signs out number hers 5:1.
- ZebZ, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1He could very well clinch the nomination by the superdelegate activity between now and then, combined with a reasonable margin of victory.
- Gerz1219, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1I'm not sure we're ever going to get the superdelegate bomb bitch-slap that we've all been waiting for. A lot of the superdelegates are terrified of Hillary, and no matter how dead she appears, they're still hedging just in case something ridiculous happens to hand her the nomination. Even if she loses this race, Hillary is going to be a powerful figure in the party for a while, and she's going to hold grudges. It makes more sense for the endorsements to come out in a less humiliating trickle.
- aldenhg, on 05/12/2008, -0/+7DeFazio and Wu are already for Obama. It looks like Kulongoski and Hooley will be staying by Hillary's side and I've heard rumors that Wyden is, too. The rest of them will probably wait until after the primary to have a big old Obama lovefest, the size of which will probably depend on his margin of victory.
- 1cat, on 05/12/2008, -5/+6go obama!
- suzywang3000, on 05/12/2008, -10/+14I can't stand debt. I can't stand when I owe someone money and I can't stand when someone owes me money.
- khail250, on 05/12/2008, -2/+3My heart is in debt to you suzy
- breadfred, on 05/12/2008, -4/+6That is a pretty short sighted view. Borrowing money to get education is not necessarily a bad investment which can pay itself back many times over. In later life, you might want to start a company, for which you will need to borrow money. On the other hand, if borrow money to buy a big fat car while you only need a family saloon is a bad idea. Also, how many people do you know who buy their house outright?
- UberNick, on 05/12/2008, -1/+2dugg for the family saloon. all we have is a family speakeasy
- nickert0n, on 05/12/2008, -1/+3The point is we should live in a society in which everyone could by a house outright, shelter should not be a privlege, it should be a right. Im not saying I have the answers im saying I know wrong from right.
- Factionrider, on 05/12/2008, -2/+2Maybe you know right from wrong, but you don't know reality from fantasy.
- nickert0n, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1I know to never give up. And be the best you can even when your told you cant. Just like your implying its impossible to have that. The 1950's people could buy house's outwright.
- Factionrider, on 05/12/2008, -2/+2Maybe you know right from wrong, but you don't know reality from fantasy.
- septicmadman, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Sounds more like you're trying to convince yourself. Apparently I can't click the proper reply link...
- HoratioHellpop, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0Er ... that could be interpreted a number of different ways, including your profession ...
- betterth, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1Idiot. How are you going to buy a house?
How are you ever going to make money? What do you think buying stock is - it's a loan to a company on the premise that the company will be successful and give you a return on your loan.
Investing is loaning your money to the bank.
You apparently hate intelligence too....
- Homerr, on 05/12/2008, -1/+23HRC, your ego is writing checks your body can't cash.
- insanebrain, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6yup. . she's a real American
- airwalkery2k, on 05/12/2008, -0/+33I'm pretty sure this is one of the few jobs where you'd spend millions to just get the chance to work a $400,000 a year gig. I'm sure it has something to do with the perks.
- Rekoil, on 05/12/2008, -6/+1If I had millions of dollars I'd sure as hell throw a $400,000 gig a year!
- hayzeus, on 05/12/2008, -1/+13interns
- nihilite, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1mispost
- BigPapi, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5She'll spend $20 million now, but if she does win, then once her presidency is over she can cash in on those million dollar speaking engagements and book deals. That can easily lead to $100 million over the course of a few years.
- thisisntjon, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3Dollar bills are just symbols... they represent power. Being president is basically the most power you can have.
- eibborjames, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Ha, ha, ha, ha, genious.... never thought of it this way.
- modifiedbears, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3These are people who crave power more than anything.
- fr0ng, on 05/12/2008, -0/+61How could anyone vote for someone who isn't capable of managing their own budget or finances? Didn't we just have 8 years of retardation in the White House? Why do some people want more? :(
- pianomahnn, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5Because people are idiots. That's WHY we had 8 years of this. asdf
- koft, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1The debt is an investment. If she wins the primaries the debt will be canceled as more money flows in to run against Mc Cain. If she beats Mc Cain she'll be the next prez and will never have to worry about money again, ever. But this is more than just money, it's also about power.
- daizaru, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1It's customary for the winner to help pay back the losers debt. She knows what she's doing unfortunately. She'll get her money back and Obama will be out $20 million he could be using to fight McCain.
- BabushkaBlue, on 05/12/2008, -1/+31Hillary's inability to face reality scares the hell out of me.
- cambob76, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Me too. I still feel like she's got something up her sleeve. Don't ask me what.
- SheilaNoya, on 05/12/2008, -1/+60Three points/questions:
1. How many of her supporters are still willing to donate money, knowing that it goes back in her pocket now, or to pay off the $10 million she still owes Mark Penn for his "campaign strategist" fees? Since she brags that poor white people and elderly white people over 65 are her "base", I'd be willing to bet that they don't have a lot of extra cash to throw around, like Hillary does.
2. If she runs her campaign finaces this badly, how would she ever be able to fix the financial mess our country is in?
3. Isn't this just like Bush in Iraq... where instead of changing our strategy, we just keep throwing money at the problem, hoping it will get better?- NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/12/2008, -1/+83. That applies to just about every government program in existence. Especially in CA
- Pritchard, on 05/12/2008, -1/+22. The president doesn't fix our financial problems, but they can sure talk to Congress about it! If the President did everything you guys want them to do, we wouldn't be America... A smart President gets along with Congress best they can and stays out of Wars. Doing otherwise causes severe problems...
- eibborjames, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0Smart, smart, love it..
- haeriphos, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1I completely disagree with #3. Obviously Clinton has been changing up her strategy. Why, just recently we've seen lying, race baiting, and "creative counting" of voters and delegates. How dare you imply she can't find creative solutions!
- bsdboy, on 05/12/2008, -1/+17Her insistence on remaining in this race reminds me of Bushes insistence that Saddam had WMD and going into Iraq was a good idea.
- rhabd0mancer, on 05/12/2008, -0/+25I'm sure Hillary will be able to pay down this debt. After all, she's a hard-working American, white American.
- eibborjames, on 05/12/2008, -2/+0Yeh, passed a black dude in a porche today, something must be wrong!!!
- odinfire, on 05/12/2008, -3/+1NO. She's a "Typical White Person", isn't that what Obama calls us?
- gypsi, on 05/12/2008, -1/+28we've already had a lousy leader who knows how to make bad decisions and accumulate debt. next applicant please.
- masterm1nd, on 05/12/2008, -6/+1I don't think that argument supports what you think it supports.
- biggdigg13, on 05/12/2008, -1/+18How can she manage the economy when she can't manage her campaign finances?
- djSyndrome, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5Defecit spending.
(next up, look to her to refund $600 to each of her major contributors)
- djSyndrome, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5Defecit spending.
- jaznova, on 05/12/2008, -0/+14Howard Wolfson: "There is no reason for her not to continue this process."
C'mon Howard, you can't think of one single reason?- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1Yeh Mr Wolfson...I can give you:
1,535 reasons why....and if that doesnt sway you I'll throw in an extra 279 reasons on top.
free of charge.
**My name is PaigeInPhilly and I approve this message***
Obama/ Webb 08
- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1Yeh Mr Wolfson...I can give you:
- marcabminion, on 05/12/2008, -0/+10Howard Wolfson: "If I am to keep my job as a spin idiot, she has to continue this process."
Fixed. - Grumps, on 05/12/2008, -0/+9If she couldn't even manage her campaign's expenditure, how is it ever possible for her to handle this country?
- trghpy, on 05/12/2008, -0/+8Huh, maybe she's ready to be president.
She runs her campaign budget like the President runs the Iran.. er Iraq war.- bjornski, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2Well, kinda.
I'd like to see him put some personal money into it to keep it going.
- bjornski, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2Well, kinda.
- cslewisster, on 05/12/2008, -0/+7She can't even keep her campaign budgeted, how would she balance the national budget if she were president? I can't wait until she announces that she's done.
- Inohavehalos, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0http://www.nypost.com/seven/11212006/news/national ...
gotta love speculation for the ratings - Sbebo, on 05/12/2008, -0/+4So basically whatever plan she has for our economy as president is a load of ***** since she can't even take care of her own campaign? Wait, her WHOLE campaign is *****.
Not even president yet and already FAIL. - kencurran, on 05/12/2008, -3/+3GOBAMA! We can't bear to have a woman who can't be realistic or control finances. Remember she's not even paying her staffers for all of this work. Her reality check came months ago, and she still hasn't cashed it. Instead, she still wastes all of this money and time of OTHERS!
- boomqweeshaa, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5The price of running for president is ridiculous.
- wrillo, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2hhahahaha! and I'm worried about my school loans!
- rodgerse, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2The funny thing is, even mitt romney atlest just fully financed his campagne and not loaned...
So obviously she's willing to destroy the party , but not giveup any of her own dough, even for a while..has to profit.- rmxz, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2Sure, but Romney (founder of Bain Capital which owns or owned much of Burger King, ToysRUs, Guitar Center, Doubleclick, Warner Music Group, etc) makes even the Clintons look poor.
- rodgerse, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0Give me a break..your telling me the 100m+ clintons can't invest at all for the job they're seemingly fighting tooth and nail for?.
And you know, even after tanking 30m+, romney knew when to drop out..and endorsed mccain withought demanind vp spot or nothing...
Even mister "double guantanamo" has some respectability here...
- rodgerse, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0Give me a break..your telling me the 100m+ clintons can't invest at all for the job they're seemingly fighting tooth and nail for?.
- rmxz, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2Sure, but Romney (founder of Bain Capital which owns or owned much of Burger King, ToysRUs, Guitar Center, Doubleclick, Warner Music Group, etc) makes even the Clintons look poor.
- INTERNETMASTER, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2I hope she stays in forever and goes billions into debt. she will become an old bag lady on the street holding up cardboard signs about the end times.
- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0Said sign will say...
"working...hard working white woman...will work"
Obama/ Webb 08
- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0Said sign will say...
- ShempRider, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2"Clinton told reporters that she had gotten flowers from her daughter and husband, as well as a vase and a perfume bottle made in West Virginia."
And if elected President, Hillary will run moonshine on Air Force One.- eibborjames, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1hahahahahaha!!!
- Groovydoo, on 05/12/2008, -1/+16Fact: McCain and Clinton are friends.
Fact: Clinton has voted the same way as McCain
Fact: Clinton appeals to "hard working voters, white voters" as she calls them. (read as "red state red necks.") So does McCain
Fact: Clinton has no chance of winning.
Fact: Clinton is in debt
Fact: Republicans want her to keep going so as to hurt Obama
Conclusion: Hillary is a Republican and wants Obama to lose- jessehadden, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3Don't forget the financial support from Rupert Murdoch, and the stumping from Rush Limbaugh.
- Groovydoo, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1You're right! I forgot about that.
- BraveQuail, on 05/12/2008, -1/+1Fact: Clinton and Obama's policies are nearly identical
- Groovydoo, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1oh rly' How about that Iraq thingy?
- jessehadden, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3Don't forget the financial support from Rupert Murdoch, and the stumping from Rush Limbaugh.
- papipablo, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5Just like a woman to spend more than she has in her budget. Does she really need so many pantsuits?
- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1OK...That was funny.
well if ya cant laugh at this point...lol
oBAMa/WeBb 08
- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1OK...That was funny.
- snotrokit, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3I really wonder if she is racking up the debt as it is "customary" for her debt to be absorbed by the party and/or the winning nominee
- daizaru, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1I'm not wondering, I'm certain of it. She's going to get all her money back while sticking it to Obama in his fight against McCain. It's vindictive at this point and truly the only reason I can see for her continuing to invest money and fight in a battle she can't win.
- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0Well she cant touch the millions he has pulled in during the primaries...Obama will have to give a seperate fundraiser for her once he is officially nominated...oh yes i can see the email now.... my response??
DELETE.
Obama/ Webb 08
- paigeinphilly, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0Well she cant touch the millions he has pulled in during the primaries...Obama will have to give a seperate fundraiser for her once he is officially nominated...oh yes i can see the email now.... my response??
- daizaru, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1I'm not wondering, I'm certain of it. She's going to get all her money back while sticking it to Obama in his fight against McCain. It's vindictive at this point and truly the only reason I can see for her continuing to invest money and fight in a battle she can't win.
- kingUssop, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Hillary is going to annex some new states I guess, because the voters already decided with numerical certainty.
- gerrylazlo, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3Not just a river in Egypt.
- daizaru, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4I'll give her $5 to quit
- eibborjames, on 05/12/2008, -2/+0Ha, ha, ha, me too!
- firebirdx01, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1If Clinton used that 20 million to sponsor lone of a small educational or health program, I'd easily would have nominated her next candidacy.
Right now the 20 million sinkhole just comes off as stubborn. - jcastillo81, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1So she can't even run a campaign fiscally responsible, yet we're supposed to trust her to help our economy?
- jessehadden, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3Wow. And this is a person who wants us to trust her with the nation's budget. "Just charge it!"
- xenex11, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Actually, there are 20 million reasons for her not to continue this process!
- rowlodge, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2she's gone totally insane!, call 911!
- fuzzynyanko, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Nah, that'd make her look too much like Rudy Giuliani
- BrandonAbell, on 05/12/2008, -1/+2It's not about what the voters want. The DNC is under no obligation to select the "winner" of the primaries. They could pick somebody who got zero votes if they wanted to. It's not a real election; just a publicly financed opinion poll. People need to learn about how the government works. I don't mean this rhetorically either. . .
- eibborjames, on 05/12/2008, -2/+1Oh yeh...
All that ***** is about to CHANGE!
- eibborjames, on 05/12/2008, -2/+1Oh yeh...
- pell, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Hmmm i think it makes a bit more sense why she is not dropping out, an investment like that just to give up would be tough to swallow, even for her.
- Berek, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Geez, when is enough enough?
- ph1sh55, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1At least we got a free preview of how she would run the country!
- jimbo92107, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1$20 million dollars of debt, and most of that she borrowed from her own finances, because the American people stopped sending money to Hillary Clinton's campaign. Bad judgment of that magnitude goes beyond determination to something more disturbing.
That said, we've all gotten distracted by the ridiculous notion that Obama will repay Clinton's debt (illegal) and make Hillary his VP (political and marital suicide).
Given that this is a distraction, we should be asking what's flying under the radar? Plenty.
Start looking at the back page stories, where the real news hides.- MrSkrilla, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1you should have stopped after "disturbing"
- rootbat, on 05/12/2008, -4/+2Clinton / Lieberman 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- anubis2night, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0I really hope the democrats don't offer to pay off her campaign. They should do it if she shut down now or if she closes up shop at West Virginia but not for the West Virginia cost's. It pure hubris on her part to keep going and I see no reason to reward it. If she stay all the way then she should pay. Simple as that. And no rewards like Vice President either, she's made no real contribution to the Democratic party to deserve it. In fact all she has done is help the republican party and further her own political agenda's. At this point it's time to put that money into the presidential campaign and let her pay her own debt.
- robbob, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5Call me naive, but why would she risk losing millions for a job that pays $250K a year?
- icexe, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Because with great power eventually comes great wealth. Bill Clinton has made well over $100 MILLION since leaving office.. Also, it's a $250,000 salary, but ALL your living expenses are paid by the taxpayer, so you don't even have to spend a penny of that income while in office.
- parallaxbass, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2If she is running a political campaign that is $20m in debt, what will she do to our economy?
- bhod, on 05/12/2008, -2/+1gobama!
- theonedigg, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3If she can't manage her campaign, how is she going to manage anything else? Much less on a trillion dollar scale??
- wizzroom, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2If I were Obama, I wouldn't trust her one bit as my VP. Can anyone say 'backstab'? I mean literally, stabbing in the back! We've already seen the lengths she'll go to obtain the presidency.
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