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Clinton Supporters to Women: Don't Vote for McCain!

blogs.abcnews.com — While there may be some residual bitterness after Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential bid defeat, her most loyal supporters are now shifting gears, warning Clinton's strong base of women supporters against swinging toward presumptive Republican Sen. John McCain. "Senator McCain is out of touch with the lives these women are leading."

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  • erranttv, on 06/11/2008, -6/+48Please, god, I'll do anything to help you get over Clinton's loss. You cannot vote for McCain. Three Supreme Court appointments people!
    • Ryan166, on 06/12/2008, -4/+2Do you really think the senate is going to let his supreme court nomination go through? He'll be forced to pick a moderate.
      • rottencod, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3Yeah, I'm sure they will stand up to McCain the same way they've stood up to Bush. Congress is so negligent in their duty to enforce and protect the Constitution, we might as well just have a dictator in this country.
        • Ryan166, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1...but the Republicans were the majority in the Senate when he nominated his 2 guys.
        • rottencod, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1So what? So now, Congress is absolved of its duty to uphold the Constitution just because it's controlled by the same Party as the White House? How does that make sense? If the jackasses on Capitol Hill think that party affiliation is more important than loyalty to the American people and our Constitution, then it just proves my point that we have a rubber-stamp Congress that has no actual relevance in our process anymore. Just dissolve it, declare Bush Emperor, and be done with it.

          And if Americans are going to keep sitting on the sidelines while they get sucker punched over and over again by a corrupt system in Washington, then we should just throw in the towel now. Admit that Freedom isn't for us after all, and petition the UK for re-admission.
      • dennisrhidalgo, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2Do not take things for granted. The only way to make sure that the supreme court stay away from a conservative majority is not electing McCain to the presidency! Congress used to have power in the old times of yore; its power today has been greatly diminished and the conservative block may still get away with it. Keep in mind that their purpose is to roll back the gains of the Civil Rights Movement, and they will stop to nothing on their way to achieve this.
        • Ryan166, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1The senate still has the power to block a nominee, as long as they hold a majority. And no filibustering needed.
    • Tr3mulant, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1These Clinton feminists are ridiculous. Because Obama won the nomination, everyone who voted for him is a misogynist? Give me a break. McCain will do nothing for those women. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, I guess.
  • FTWmovin2canada, on 06/11/2008, -5/+29McCain's new campaign slogan: Ready (to nuke Iran) on day one.
    • Ryan166, on 06/12/2008, -12/+2We can only hope.
    • RRJackson, on 06/12/2008, -13/+1Well, he just got my vote.
      • chrissku, on 06/12/2008, -1/+2So...... before you read this article you were an undecided voter? You just picked a candidate based on what???
        If there was a digg intelligence meter you would be rated very high I'm sure.......
    • 335io07, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3Have you heard/seen McCain singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" as a parody of the Beach Boys song? At first it was funny, but then it started to scare me once he became the nominee.
    • flink405, on 06/12/2008, -3/+2Better to have a President ready to defend America and it´s allies, then one ready to surrender on day one.
      • didiman, on 06/12/2008, -4/+5Obama wouldn't surrender on day one! Day one is pattycake, day two is kumbaya, day three is surrender.
      • MalenfantX, on 06/12/2008, -2/+1And this relates to anything in any way? Are you a right-wing kook? They babble about surrender a lot, so I think you might be one.
      • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0Damn, they're on to us
  • chrissku, on 06/12/2008, -7/+39At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you *****." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.
    • sinurgy, on 06/12/2008, -5/+6I tried to google that to see if McCain really did say that but all I got was a bunch of political blogs.
      • monoa, on 06/12/2008, -2/+5"When he was two, he would have tantrums in which he held his breath until he fainted. That character trait runs through his later military and political careers,..."
        http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/05/johnmc ...
      • Lenoxus, on 06/15/2008, -0/+0Tantrums at age two? But he was supposed to be ready on day one!

        In all seriousness, that's an pretty stupid thing to base one's vote on.
    • obamayomama, on 06/12/2008, -5/+0The fact that a comment like this is heralded with so many diggs is proof that most of you are scum.
    • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1That one may be true, but it's totally apocryphal, so there's no reason to believe it.
    • Lenoxus, on 06/24/2008, -0/+0Well, just in, here's a video of McCain not denying it when asked outright at a town hall meeting: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iOl4iT46Eec&feature=Pla ...

      The asker really should have said "c-word" instead of "*****" — as it was, it left McCain an out of sorts, to simply refuse a vulgar question.

      So it appears likely that he used the word, but the rest of that article might be an embellishment.
  • acegi, on 06/12/2008, -15/+8even with hillary's graceful exit, some people feel they need to vote for mcsenile as retaliation?

    grow up fgs
    • patpl22391, on 06/12/2008, -7/+4Why are you judging McCain on his age? Just because he happens to be older, doesn't mean he can't think. I reject, as I'm sure Obama would, racism, sexism, and ageism -- all equally offensive.
      • B1663r, on 06/12/2008, -7/+3No, the last 6 months has pretty much conclusively pr oven that racism trumps all the other isms. For example if Keith Olberman had said those sexist things in a racial context he would have been fired just like Don Imus. So no, sexism is ok, racism is bad in Obamaland.

        I'll just borrow a thing from DailKos and retask it. IOKIYAAOB (It ok if you are an Obama Bot)
        • JekJob, on 06/12/2008, -2/+1Olbermann didn't say anything sexist. You're just mad because your candidate gave him more material to use against her.
      • Andrwmorph, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1He does not know how to use a computer.
        • patpl22391, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1He has said he used the internet, so that would be false.
  • paraforce, on 06/12/2008, -6/+32"Senator McCain is out of touch with the lives these women are leading."
    He's also out of touch with his cerebral cortex.
  • cycledesign, on 06/12/2008, -16/+3Not according to http://www.hillaryis44.org/ and those are some loyal supporters.
  • thebrinkman, on 06/12/2008, -8/+5The Patriot Act is a vehicle for peeping toms in high places. And have you seen John McCain's grin? Unsettling, to say the least.
    • patpl22391, on 06/12/2008, -5/+5Our Lord and Savior Obama voted for the Patriot Act.
      • zacharytelschow, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2When he wasn't busy voting present, he voted for a lot of things most folks wouldn't like. But shhhhhh, don't tell, he's the messiah.
      • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0Here's Obama's record on the Patriot Act:
        http://glassbooth.org/explore/index/barack-obama/1 ...

        And here's the senate Web site for Obama giving his speech when he voted (along with every single other Senator) to reauthorize:
        http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060216-floor_statem ...

        The word he uses several times is "compromise" — he's clearly unhappy with the act as it was and the changes then proposed by the House, but felt more or less content with the in-between version. It's his moderate, aisle-working side in action.

        And Zachary — care to link?
  • Dysarthria, on 06/12/2008, -13/+3Its not the female Hilldog voters who will bail on Obama, its the men.
    • 335io07, on 06/12/2008, -1/+0yeah sadly but true. logic tells me that many men who supported hillary can't be feminists unless they are post-op... so they are problebly racists. i'm speaking in generalities here, i'm not saying all men who supported hillary is a racist.
      • Dysarthria, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2Me neither. Just that feminists who supported her simply because they shared the same private parts won't vote for McCain. The men who supported her were more conservative and not as blinded as the Hilldogs girls by her gender. Obama's gonna have to fight to get white people.
  • MaxterICC, on 06/12/2008, -9/+3So let me get this straight. the same people who wouldnt give up for the sake of the democratic party as a whole are now preaching unity against McCain?

    go away.
  • chrissku, on 06/12/2008, -2/+2Now try to Google McCain's denial.....yep...you won't find it.
    • Lenoxus, on 06/24/2008, -0/+0Um, in this particular area, McCain doesn't have to deny anything…
  • smilemon, on 06/12/2008, -2/+2"Malcolm said white, non-college educated women will be the critical lynchpin to Democratic success and to Obama's victory in November."

    I'm sorry ABC news, but lynchpin is spelled linchpin. The Y seems like either a harmless spelling error or.... um... insinuating something else.
  • sinurgy, on 06/12/2008, -5/+13I'm a mid 30's, middle income white guy, does that mean I should only vote for things that directly affect me? Screw women voting for Hillary, blacks voting for Obama and seniors voting for McCain. How about we concern ourselves with things that are in all our best interests!
    • 335io07, on 06/12/2008, -2/+0So vote for the green party to blaze it up?
    • luckbear, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1I agree. I am a senior and vote mostly for issues that will help young people, as viewed as the future of America. I do not vote for selfish issues as the "women, blacks, gays, or seniors" do. I reflect on how will a young person afford a home or get and education. How will they be able to lead this country in the future. There is to much "me first" in this country.
  • patpl22391, on 06/12/2008, -16/+4After one of the dirtiest nomination campaigns in history, Obama supporters expect to say a few words and Hillary supporters will jump on the Barack 'the Magic Negro' Bandwagon. Hillary supporters are rightfully upset and angry. Clinton received 18 million votes, and they have been thrown to the wayside. Look at the vitriolic nature of the comments aimed directly at Hillary on Digg, you guys had no respect for her as a person, or as a candidate, and you certainly don't deserve her or their support now.
    • GregFD3S, on 06/12/2008, -10/+5You know something? Your right.
      Sadly, you will probably be dugg down anyways.
    • PocketWatch, on 06/12/2008, -3/+6As an Obama supporter, I too was sickened by the treatment Hillary got on Digg before and after the concession (shows the agenda of those on Digg). However, you have to weigh the options: Obama or McCain. Digg's treatment of Hillary was unexcuseable, but nonetheless, we can't have another 4 years of this.

      Speaking of unexcuseable, watch your racist 'Magic Negro' comments.
    • xsquirrel378x, on 06/12/2008, -5/+1hey it was all in good fun. dont be so dramatic
    • 335io07, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1Too bad she didn't have the "Magic Vagina" to win. She lost the primary. Barack had about 18 million votes as well. So what are you gonna do? Slice them in half and stitch them together? There has to be a winner in a contest. Please move on and support your party.
    • flashback99, on 06/12/2008, -1/+4You are applying a racist film plot device to a real-life presidential campaign. Shame the ***** on you.
    • JekJob, on 06/12/2008, -1/+4Hey patpl22391,

      Go ahead and vote for McCain instead of Obama. See if anyone cares.

      Like you'd actually care about the 18 million people who voted for Obama if Hillary had won. Sore loser.
  • GregFD3S, on 06/12/2008, -4/+10John McClain:
    "Yippie Ki-Yay *****!"
  • chrismag1979, on 06/12/2008, -14/+3Do not vote for Obama instead.
  • luvdavy, on 06/12/2008, -14/+2I say we all vote Independent and write in Hillary's name. It may do no good, but it will make a statement. And I just cannot see voting for the lesser of two evils with Obama or McCain. One is just as bad as the other.
    • GregFD3S, on 06/12/2008, -2/+10Please reiterate on how Obama is as bad as McCain.
    • fredmv, on 06/12/2008, -7/+4Dear Feminazi,

      Senator Clinton is a boldfaced liar. Can you say Bosnia? Can you say NAFTA? What about her slimy campaign that didn't pay off the rent of their New Hampshire location until news was made about it? What about the blatant racism displayed ad nauseum throughout the campaign, not only by her, but President Clinton as well? What about her spotty voting record? A reminder: she voted for the war; Senator Obama did not. This isn't even getting into the fact that she takes more money from lobbyists than other other candidate combined.

      Your being in favor of Senator Clinton boils down to many other feminazis in your position: "you go girl!" You're nothing more than a cheerleader with a baseless position.

      Thanks,
      fredmv

      p.s. for kicks, I looked up Myrtle Beach Web Design as per your profile. Suggestion: find a new hobby. My dog could ***** out better code. Rule #1) tables are not for layout, rule #2) presentational mark up has gone the way of the Dodo a long time ago.
      • flashback99, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1oh yes, crush his opinion on politics with a jibe about his web ability. Way to go fred.

        No fred, Im sure theres a more rational argument out there somewhere.
    • 335io07, on 06/12/2008, -2/+1What statement? That you're a ball busting bitch who would trade teams if you don't get what you want? What good would that do but make Obama supporting men hate feminism even more than they already do.
    • zacharytelschow, on 06/12/2008, -2/+1One is as bad as the other? The only way that makes sense is when applied to Obama and Clinton, as they are both slimeballs with nearly identical policies. The only difference is Hillary doesn't care if people think she's a broomrider and Obama professes he's a saint and people buy it.
  • multifaceted, on 06/12/2008, -9/+3Clinton Supporters to Women: Don't think for yourselves.

    Just vote for who we tell you to because we are the media and we are always right.
  • TwoKill, on 06/12/2008, -4/+23I like how the Clinton supports are gonna fight Obama by voting for the guy that called his wife a *****. (allegedly)
    Way to support women!
    • pleasureismine, on 06/12/2008, -1/+8Sometimes I really have a hard time understanding women.
  • matadata, on 06/12/2008, -3/+20If your vote's determining factors include spite, race, or gender, please sit out of this election. It would be petty and irresponsible.
    • offthewagon, on 06/12/2008, -8/+1Piss off. I'll vote for a squirrel if I want.
    • KH47, on 06/12/2008, -5/+2Then all the Obama supporters better sit out because his race is the only reason anyone is really voting for him. Besides being black the only thing remarkable about him is his ability to read "change" over and over off the teleprompter.
      • zacharytelschow, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1If he was white, he would have been history long ago. People are still judging him by the color of his skin instead of the content of his character. That's the only reason he's still in the race.
      • Lenoxus, on 06/23/2008, -0/+0I'm sorry, I accidentally reported you, and I didn't mean it. (I did mean to mark you down, but I don't think your comment went so far as to actually be offensive in a bannable way.)

        There doesn't seem to be a good way to directly reach the Digg people, so I hope they see this.
  • Sheri123, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3At this time I plan on voting for Obama but I don't like being told or pressured on who to vote for.
    • offthewagon, on 06/12/2008, -3/+6How digg generates support for their candidate:
      ......

      Praise Ron Paul. Fill the front page with Ron Paul posts, each brimming with a coterie of zealous sycophants.

      (Ron Paul loses)

      Praise Obama. Fill the front page with Obama posts, each brimming with a coterie of zealous sycophants.

      Slam Hillary. Call her every name in the book. Insult anyone who would vote for her. Repeat until she withdraws

      (Hillary withdraws)

      Appeal to her followers. Pretend they haven't been calling them dykes and losers for months. Tell them to vote for Obama. Chide them that voting for McCain is "petty" and that they must overcome their animosity for the good of the country.

      Slam McCain. Call him every name in the book. Insult anyone who would vote for him. Repeat until election.
  • reverland, on 06/12/2008, -7/+0Bitter, party of 1.
  • buckchoris, on 06/12/2008, -9/+6I will be telling the female members in my family to vote for McCain,if Obama gets elected we are doomed.
    • dualboy24, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3Why? I read this all the time from Nobama people but I never hear any actual reasons. Give me some solid reasons I would love to know why you think Obama is a bad choice?
      • KH47, on 06/12/2008, -6/+1No experience, Reverend Wright, elitist, and he's buddies with terrorists.
        • JekJob, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3Okay, now give us some REAL reasons. Preferably ones that have some factual basis.

          And if you won't vote for him because of the things his (former) pastor said, then maybe you should take a listen to John Hagee.
      • zacharytelschow, on 06/12/2008, -4/+3You want reasons? Look into the company he keeps(including his delusional wife and close personal friends Tony Rezko, Father Flueger, Jeremiah Wright). Look at his policies to "give" Americans virtually everything (unless you're rich, then you can expect your tax rate to go from "crap Uncle Sam is taking a lot" to "can't I at least keep a quarter of that dollar that I made?"). Obama is running on a platform of the government can take care of you better than you can take care of yourself. He has spent his entire adult life, by choice, surrounded by black radicals, academics, and politicians. In addition, Obama spent much of his childhood in Indonesia and Hawaii. As a result, he has absolutely no idea what it is to be an American. Stuttering the words "hope, faith, and change" in various incoherent sentences is not a political platform, its an appeal to the lowest common denominator. Lastly, as the candidate of honesty and integrity, he's had an awfully hard time keeping basic facts about his childhood straight (check the link below for many of them).

        http://savagepolitics.com/?page_id=326

        My reasons for voting for McCain aren't nearly as long as I'd like, but I have a mountain of reasons to question Obama's character and policies.
        • nimbletimble, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1"In addition, Obama spent much of his childhood in Indonesia and Hawaii. As a result, he has absolutely no idea what it is to be an American."

          Is that so bad when the majority of US citizens don't have a passport? Perhaps a wider view is exactly what you lot need at a time when your country has never looked so bad.

          ps. where's Hawaii?
        • zacharytelschow, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1A tropical paradise in the Pacific hardly qualifies as being in America. Would you argue he was in America as the rest of us know it if he were in Guam or Puerto Rico? After all, they are United States territories.
        • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0"A tropical paradise in the Pacific hardly qualifies as being in America." Nice. Very nice. Which precise climate is an American one? Because I guarantee you won't find it spread nicely all around the contiguous states.

          Wait a minute, why am I even responding to that absurd level of argument? McCain was born in a Panama military base and spent his early life shuffling around 20 different schools, and most Americans did not. In fact, I'll venture that every single presidential candidate has a minority background, given that there is no one convenient single majority American experience. Is that lack of instant homogeneity a bad thing?
  • chrismag1979, on 06/12/2008, -5/+3Do not vote for Obama instead.
  • banido, on 06/12/2008, -3/+16What the hell...WOMEN CAN VOTE?
    • zacharytelschow, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3Women's suffrage must stop.
    • TheUngod, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1They can also choose who they have sex with. That's good huh?
  • 335io07, on 06/12/2008, -9/+4What a bunch of sore ***** losers. The nomination has ended. Obama was declared the winner. Even though you might be bitter just take one for the Democratic team and vote for change, not four more years of Bush. Do the right thing.
  • dualboy24, on 06/12/2008, -2/+5Where have these people been hiding? Its like the Anti-Obama brigade both on digg and over in the comment section of the article. I understand many of them are upset that their candidate of choice did not win, and they feel she had more votes for Hillary (even though it was a virtual tie in the popular vote 50/50). But what I really really really want to know is why are they so scared of Obama? I have yet to hear any solid reasons. My only assumption is that its caused by the many months of campaigning and hoping for Hillary has caused a deep rooted hate towards Obama to grow, perhaps a believe in any negative spin or story heard about him, even if the source was questionable? It seems like there were 5 or more make or break things that were going to come out and destroy the Obama campaign but not a single one of them materialized. Just why the hate?
    • KH47, on 06/12/2008, -4/+1Because Obama stole the candidacy from Hillary.
    • zacharytelschow, on 06/12/2008, -2/+2You want reasons? Look into the company he keeps (including his delusional wife and self proclaimed close personal friends Tony Rezko, Father Flueger, Jeremiah Wright). Look at his policies to "give" Americans virtually everything (unless you're rich, then you can expect your tax rate to go from "crap Uncle Sam is taking a lot" to "can't I at least keep a quarter of that dollar that I made?"). Obama is running on a platform of the government can take care of you better than you can take care of yourself. He has spent his entire adult life, by choice, surrounded by black radicals, academics, and politicians. In addition, Obama spent much of his childhood in Indonesia and Hawaii. As a result, he has absolutely no idea what it is to be an American. Stuttering the words "hope, faith, and change" in various incoherent sentences is not a political platform, its an appeal to the lowest common denominator. Lastly, as the candidate of honesty and integrity, he's had an awfully hard time keeping basic facts about his childhood straight (check the link below for many of them).

      http://savagepolitics.com/?page_id=326
      • swellman, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Oh please. A little extreme, don't you think? But fine, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if you can explain to me how Hilary is so different. Their platforms were very, very similar. What put Obama over the top was a better run campaign and a country wide desire to get someone in the White House this is not an old school politician.
    • Andrwmorph, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3But its not faaaaaair wah wah!
  • mikefitz2, on 06/12/2008, -8/+5THIS JUST IN: Women can't think for themselves and need Clinton supporters to direct their voting choices.
  • flink405, on 06/12/2008, -11/+3Hillary in 2012!
    Vote McCain, write in Clinton or don´t vote in 2008.
  • headinthesand, on 06/12/2008, -4/+4So what your saying is we should vote for the OLD,WHITE, CRAZY MAN instead. That worked so well for us with George Bush..
    • obamayomama, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Another nice racial jab from the "tolerant" left.
  • flintmecha, on 06/12/2008, -1/+4Gulp.. I thought maybe reading the comments on the article page would be less detrimental to my IQ than reading Digg comments.

    I was wrong.
  • Lavarock, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1HEY WOMEN. Yes, all of you. Every one. I need to speak to you about something.
    • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0What is the deal with all women being Clinton supporters, instead of a heterogeneous group of people with a diverse array of opinions? Seriously? They're as bad as blacks.
  • amightywind, on 06/12/2008, -9/+2It is pretty obvious that Obama's vile attacks on Hillary left women voters disenchanted. Lets face it. Obama wants to enrich his supporters with the money of hers. Hillary's tepid backing of the Obama candidacy didn't help. McCain is an excellent excellent alternative for these abandoned voters.
    • JekJob, on 06/12/2008, -1/+5Obama's vile attacks? There were none of those. Hillary was the one shooting out personal attacks every other day. But that doesn't matter right now so why bring it up?

      "Hillary's tepid backing..." Her endorsement was not tepid. It was a full blown endorsement where she proved to everyone that she was going to work as hard to make Obama the next president as she did for her own campaign.

      Maybe you Hillary supporters should actually LISTEN to your candidate that you love so much and vote for the person she endorsed. You don't want McCain running the country. If you think McCain is better than Obama then why are you even Democrats?
    • Andrwmorph, on 06/12/2008, -0/+4What attacks by Obama oh Hillary?
    • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0Well, they weren't so much attacks from Obama himself as from the *idea* of Obama, you know? He didn't have to actually say anything, you could just sort of tell it from his eyes. Don't get me started on how Clinton made all those racist jabs with a subtle tone of voice.
  • coolkatz321, on 06/12/2008, -4/+3As if feminists would EVER vote for a pro-abortion candidate. I just can't see this country being stupid enough to elect McCain. Oh wait, we reelected Bush... never mind.
  • MrFurious2k, on 06/12/2008, -6/+4LMFAO. After all the things Obama and his surrogates said about Hillary and her supporters, he deserves losing their vote.
    • JekJob, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3And she and her supporters deserved to lose the nomination.
    • flintmecha, on 06/12/2008, -0/+4What did Obama and his "surrogates" say about Hillary?
  • misfit410, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3I mean, I'm all for not voting for McCain and all, but I mean, you are expecting people to take advice from people who supported Hillary, I think someones credibility can go no lower than that.
  • bobjohnsonmilw, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3It's no wonder we continue to have problems in this country. Instead of voting for what matters we vote out of ***** spite.

    All I can say is Obama better ***** win, even though the change he mentions is never really spelled out. It's easy to say, and easy to take advantage of a climate where change is the only option at this point.

    Would be nice to know the specifics that politicians have in mind instead of hearing the same rhetoric that we've been hearing for ages. Don't get me wrong, Obama gets my vote, but what is his actual plan?
    • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0For an outline of issue positions and plans, see http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

      Each issue page gives a PDF link at the bottom. Admittedly, they don't all translate into word-for-word bills, but neither would anyone else's plans at this stage of the election.
  • nimbletimble, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3reading all this anti-Obama shows how easily manipulated the US people are. McCain is good for one thing, pushing the red button

  • obamayomama, on 06/12/2008, -1/+0I wouldn't put too much stock in a Gallup Poll! Or a Pew Poll, or a Quinnipiac Poll! These polls almost Never Show a Republican Presidential Candidate in the lead until about 2 days before the election! McCain only needs to get about 5 percent of Hillary's supporters and that's enough to be the difference in a close race!
    • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0Please demonstrate with numbers in what sense the polls "almost never show a Republican Presidential candidate in the lead." It shouldn't be hard, since numbers are what those polls are made up. Unless numbers themselves are what you wouldn't put too much stock in.
    • Lenoxus, on 06/15/2008, -0/+0whoops! "numbers are what those polls are made up" should be "numbers are what those polls are made OF". But without capitalizing the OF. Because that would be a weird word TO capitalize.
  • Shellius, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1An awful lot of women are going to vote for John McCain because they think Obama supporters and the media are sexists. Some of them definitely ARE and owe women everywhere an APOLOGY for the sexist BS they have been spouting for the last 8 months, but that's not a good reason to send this country straight to hell with another four years of Bush policies and WORSE. Obama supporters need to apologize to women and prove they aren't sexist though. Obama is going to lose a LOT of women's votes because of how she was treated. I think some Obama voters wanted that, but I don't, I would prefer we save this country with someone who's at least moderate versus a warmonger.
    Obama has to address the issue of sexism too. He's got to do it fast. More and more women are joining the McCain campaign every day. McCain is actively courting them and even going to hold conference calls to talk to them. If you are an Obama supporter with any clout in his campaign you should tell him to directly appeal to women and apologize for the sexism in this primary ASAP. If Obama ever expects their votes he's got to address it. He will be losing women's votes if he doesn't. I know a lot of women who are still furious at how Hillary was treated. Anyone who makes it worse will lose them for Obama and they won't go back.
    • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0In terms of his actual speeches, I think he's done everything he can (not that he should stop). I'm not sure I can think of a specific incident that he would apologize over or condemn. Meanwhile, those people who really are sexist, regardless of party affiliation, are generally not going to have an epiphany and apologize — for them, anything is justified because she's a female politician. It'll be very interesting to see the approach from McCain supporters.
  • Homerr, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2Nice mess you made HRC, now clean it up.
    • Lenoxus, on 06/24/2008, -0/+0She herself did not make the mess, but she's doing her best to clean it up. Go Obama!
  • randumbusername, on 06/12/2008, -3/+3strange. obama supporters talk down to hillary supporters like little children but hillary supporters should vote for obama so they will be treated with respect??
    • tehsilentcircus, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1First off, being a cry baby and doing something intentionally out of spite and just to be difficult sounds like a very childish act to me so, why not?

      Second, if they aren't happy with the nominee who won fair and square, then don't freaking vote at all or go write in Hillary. It's sickens me that a group of people would be so selfish and would rather put this country into further destruction by voting for McCain just because they are a bunch of whiners and poor losers.

      Dumb asses like these people are the reason we have had an idiot in the white house for the past 8 years. I'm sorry, but if you cant vote like the adult you are then you shouldn't be voting at all. If the American people don't get their act together and grow up things are just going to get worse.
  • Krisgi, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1I think that if Obama would have lost, we would all be doing basically the same. Protesting and threatening.

    I understand that a lot of women needed this to happen in their lifetime and looked to Hillary as a cause more than just a candidate. Still, we should keep in mind that THE GREATEST CAUSE is refusing to have another 4 years of Bush *****.

    Hell, I've been pissed off at their reaction. Their vehemence. Really, really pissed off, but I have never thought for a second that more than just maybe a small percentage of these Hillary supporters would still go ahead and vote against everyone's interests come November, and their are gradually proving me right. And more power to them!

    Sooner or later, most, if not all, will come around to Obama in the end. There's waaaay too much at stake for people to want the luxury of personalizing this presidential race. It's not about anyone in particular. Not about you or me. It's about ALL of us. Not to mention the rest of that World out there who is starting to look at us already with a surprised smile.

    Given the right and the privilege to really change things once and for all, I doubt anyone is selfish enough to fail this huge responsibility.
    • Lenoxus, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0Thoughtfully put. I really doubt very many of these quixotic people are going to put their votes where their mouths are, except for those who had always held a mental hierarchy of Clinton-McCain-Obama (or who only voted for Clinton strategically, assuming she'd lose the general — which probably happened for Obama as well).

      Among other things, in terms of Obama's own actions and words, there's hardly any fuel to sustain real anger at him visa-vis Clinton. During the whole slog, he may have said something stupid once or twice, but not once did he attack her character or gender in any way (and, might I add, the equivalent goes to her as well). Whereas it was McCain who'd laughed when asked "How do we beat the bitch?" It's always been Republicans — not just card-carriers but office-holders — who were openly viscous to her. Not, of course, that personal vendettas of any kind are any reason to vote one way or another…
  • pajeff2, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1If Hillary doesn't get the VP slot her supporters will turn to McCain or stay home
  • swellman, on 06/12/2008, -1/+2I understand that Clinton's supporters are upset at losing. And yes, unfortunately she had to endure some sexist behavior during the campaign. But none of that was from Obama himself so I really don't understand this desire by some of Hilary's supporters to now vote for McCain. Aim your frustration at the people, (and in particular the media in my opinion) who did exhibit these sexist views, but not a man who was and is nothing but a class act.
  • Apocrypha, on 06/12/2008, -1/+2Any woman who would vote for John McCain doesn't care too much about womens rights or your country for that matter. Don't be so stupid. Vote Obama.
  • chase001, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2I can't believe this is even a race. The idea that McInsane might even come close to getting elected because a bunch of house fraus in their suburban assault vehicles are upset because theri girl lost is horrifying. The idea that they might subject this country to four or eight more years of Bush or his Neocon master's policy by abstaining or voting for tumor-face is traitorous. It's way past time the US had a woman President and and Black President. Pasty old white men like McCain are the minority now and shouldn't be running the show.
    • Lenoxus, on 06/24/2008, -0/+0sorry, but… "house fraus"? "Tumor-face"? Those are some really unappetizing and stupid slurs, right up there with "towelhead." I'm an Obama supporter, and I digg that ***** down.
  • libr3volution, on 06/13/2008, -1/+0McCain or Obama= screwed!!! Vote Bob Barr 2008!
  • Gracenotes, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1Some women are going to vote for McCain anyway because, guess what, they were never Hillary supporters to begin with. It's a bit irritating that on the internet, you can't really tell if someone has heartfelt convictions, or if they're a ***** Operation Chaos participant. But,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobo ...
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