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Catholic Priest Rips Fox News a New One over Rev Wright

dailykos.com — Looks like Fox News thought they were going to embarass Obama supporter Father Michael Pfleger, by sending out one of their henchmen to ambush him over his ties to and support of Barack Obama. Instead they got their tiny, little bigoted and ignorant heads handed to them. Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

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  • Krisgi, on 04/19/2008, -13/+193Let he who has actually DONE something for his Nation cast the first stone. All others should shut the ***** up and show some respect to those who have demonstrated their love and patriotism through ACTIONS.

    Thank you, Father Pfleger.

    Dugg. Shared. Cherished.
    • Dugo, on 04/19/2008, -5/+5Amen, Krisgi.
    • mw113, on 04/19/2008, -2/+10He spoke some very true words. Glad it was on Fox.
      • tastypaste, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6It's great to see people stand up to Fox News' bully journalism tactics. They use their reporters to attack people being interviewed. They're not interested in facts and journalism, they're just looking to stir up a fight so they can use that to make their targets look bad. I always love to see a well-spoken person throw the truth back at them and shut down their game.
        • Harmutt, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Unreal. When the "reporter" asked about Wright's comments after 911, I would have mentioned Pat "God's Own Weather Forecaster" Robertson and Jerry Falwell's little ditty about how it's the hama-hamashexels's fault.

          Dicks.
    • andrew1193, on 04/19/2008, -12/+1Does that "love" and "patriotism" include calling for the murder of gun shop owners, and legislators who oppose gun bans?

      http://armedandsafe.blogspot.com/2007/05/i-knew-fa ...
      http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT= ...
    • Pillage, on 04/19/2008, -19/+3I don't think a CATHOLIC priest should be the one casting any stones.
      • gkwillie, on 04/19/2008, -2/+12Fine. Label him and marginalize him before you hear what he has to say.
        • Pillage, on 04/19/2008, -10/+2I did hear what he had to say, and it's typical attack propaganda that Digg loves. Someone attacks FNC and people cal them a genius (despite him believing the world is 6,000 years old and a cracker and some wine are the body and blood of a 2000 year old dead guy). Honestly it is getting ridiculous, attacking FNC is like shooting fish in a barrel with a shotgun. Show me an attack on a real news organization, then we'll talk.
          • a1532b, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1Did you even watch the video dude? You say you did, but I think you're lying. Name one point that he said that was incorrect. Just one. They were the ones that attacked him, dude, and he did a triumphant job in wading through their *****.
            You have to pick one that he mentioned, by the way. No cheaping out and saying "OMG HE"S CHRISTINAIN SO HE"S WRONG HAHALOLZ" After all, that seems to be your main argument against the guy, his own personal beliefs. Just because someone thinks differently than you doesn't mean they are any less valid.
        • B3000, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5You know, there are a lot of Christians who don't actually believe that the Earth is only 6 thousand years old - myself included. So stop making judgments about people's beliefs based on simple conjecture.
    • RickyBarnes1960, on 04/19/2008, -0/+4"Shut the ***** up" is extremely disrespectful and anti-freedom of speech and doesn't really belong in a free and respectful forum ... or anywhere for that matter but, I understand and agree with the sentiment. All too often, it seems those at FOX simply like to hear the noise coming out of their own mouths.
    • pilzburybizkit, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8As an atheist but I wouldn't mind sitting in on one of his sermons, this man is intelligent.
    • S1ngular1ty1, on 04/19/2008, -11/+1Hahahahaha, people who believe in god have morals? I guess that is why the crusades happened, or the inquisition, or [insert holy war here]. Please, that guy is full of crap. In fact, most religious people are hypocritical and full of crap.
      • flip2trip, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2Well thank you so much. I had know idea there was a person who had met MOST religious people, in that case sir we should all believe what you say.
      • mikebaldwin67, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5So if all Christains are immoral because of the crusades and inquisition, then arent all Americans immoral because of slavery? Are all Germans immoral because of the Holocaust? Is EVERY culture/creed/race immoral because of blood-soaked history? I think not. I hope your post is just you trolling because your logic and intolerance truely outshadow those of any religious person I have ever meet.
        • S1ngular1ty1, on 04/19/2008, -4/+1All the things you just named were probably backed by people who called themselves religious. In fact, Hitler was raised Catholic and believed in Christianity and praised its heritage.

          More often than not, religion has played a negative roll in history. Just like it is doing now with the Islamic holy war.
          • mikebaldwin67, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3Evil people will use whatever neccesary to commit their acts. Because religion is a major role in so many peoples lives across the world, it has been used to manipulate it's own followers. Just as the rise of Nationalism spawned endless wars across the world. It is not the ideology that is to blame but the people who abuse it. Hitler was not a Christian, he did not follow it's teachings in any way. He used Christianity as a tool to gain broad-based support. Just as Saddam Hussein a true hedonist professed himself a Muslin in order to maintain control.
            Everything I named in my previous post was never about religion, it is all about politics and power. There has NEVER been a 'holy war' in this world. All of this conflict used religion as a vale for the true motives. Do not blame religion blame those who distort it and manipulate it's followers.
          • S1ngular1ty1, on 04/19/2008, -3/+1Read this and then tell me there were no holy wars.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war

            Just face the facts, the world would be a better place without religion and religious zealots.
          • mikebaldwin67, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3The Crusades: A territory war to stop the advancement of the Arab and Persian forces and to gain strategic territory in the region. Not to mention making a ***** of money.
            French Religious Wars: A way for the French to declare sovereignty from the conflicting rule of the Pope. A king can't really be king if the Pope is superceding all of his decrees. This is also the cause for the creation of the Church of England, it had nothing to do with theological differences.
            Thirty Years War: Same thing.

            now just because I can put this url into my argument.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right
            Doesn't make my point any more valid.
          • S1ngular1ty1, on 04/19/2008, -3/+1http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/wtwtgod/3513 ...

            SELECTED EXTRACTS FROM RELIGIOUS TEXTS
            'Then you must utterly destroy them; you shall make no covenant with them and show them no mercy' (Torah, Book of Deuteronomy 7:1-2)
            'Thou shall not kill' (Torah, Book of Exodus 20:13)
            'All who take the sword will perish by the sword' (New Testament, Matthew 5:43-44)
            'Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but aggress not' (Koran 2:190)
            'Whoever fights in the cause of God, then gets killed or attains victory, we will surely grant him a great recompense' (Koran 4:74)
            'When all efforts to restore peace prove useless and no words avail, lawful is the flash of steel' (10th Sikh guru, Guru Gobind Singh)
            'May your weapons be strong to drive away the attackers, may your arms be powerful enough to check the foes, let your army be glorious, not the evil-doer' (Hinduism's Rig Veda 1-39:2)
          • S1ngular1ty1, on 04/19/2008, -4/+1Christians often forget that a large portion of the world doesn't believe in their god and this doesn't stop them from trying to spread their beliefs to the rest of the world. No doubt this has started or exacerbated many of the conflicts throughout history.

            Also, whenever you hear a military leader speak they bring god into the mix and say their followers are doing God's work, or God is behind them. Who's god would want his/her followers fighting in unnecessary wars for stupid reasons? Why do people continue to do it in the name of their God? Why don't all the moral people just stop fighting?

            Like I said, most religious people are hypocritical and full of crap when it comes down to things that effect their own lives.
          • S1ngular1ty1, on 04/19/2008, -4/+1Let's take it even further. Religion has coined the idea of a "just war." How can a war be just? How can religious people believe that taking other people's lives is just? Most religious texts try to teach tolerance, right from wrong, and that you shouldn't hurt your fellow man. Fat lot of good that has done. Why you ask? Probably because most people who follow religious beliefs tend to omit those parts of the teachings when it is convenient for them or when their own lives are at risk.

            Moreover, who is to say what qualifies a "just war"? Who's religion should be used as the basis to establish what wars are "just" and which wars aren't?

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_War
      • MiddleOfNowhere, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1Listen, buddy, I am a hardcore atheist, but by spouting out all this hateful, ignorant crap, you make "our" side look pretty bad. And frankly, no-one asked for a pile of data on Christianity's crimes. This is about someone standing up to the typical Fox hate cycle.
        Newsflash (and you may want to ponder this *slowly* before pasting in another twenty clips of why Religion Is Really Bad For You):
        Just like an atheist (to the astonishment of Christians) can be a moral person, so can a Christian. And if a catholic priest is able to say something smart when attacked by a slimy little Fox News weasel, I can appreciate that without having to go into a "Christians suck" routine.
        Really, you're kind of embarrassing here. Stop it and consider the possibility that the world is not just black and white. There are atheist douchebags and smart, wellmeaning Christians. Get over it.
    • DMedina, on 04/19/2008, -2/+10As a young (20) modern day Catholic, it is exciting, refreshing, and disappointingly rare to get such an honest commentary from a priest representing the church.
      Now if only the Church could stop building on some of the huge errors in the past (and if people would not associate Catholics now with them), and if the Church could continue focusing on helping society rather than individuals, then I think we could get more credibility and support for the causes that HAVE been changing the world (do some research on Catholic Relief Services in Africa, or the Jesuit Volunteer Corp in the poorest areas of the US)
  • kdawg1012, on 04/19/2008, -7/+133This is a great video. The priest did a great job.
    • rspeed, on 04/19/2008, -2/+18Seriously. That was amazing.

      I'm not the biggest fan of either Obama or the Catholic church, but he was absolutely correct.
  • UNDERSTAR, on 04/19/2008, -30/+30***** FAUX NEWS!!!!
    • SpamDog, on 04/19/2008, -4/+9not exactly the most intelligent and helpful of comments...
    • cyberdork, on 04/19/2008, -0/+4Did Fox News really air this? It didn't look like a live interview, so why did they air a taped 10min interview where they are getting their ass kicked? Weird. Nobody else wondering about this?
  • Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -7/+201I'm not a big fan of religion, but I was impressed by what the guy had to say. It's refreshing to hear such candor and straight talk. More power to him.
    • dsmx, on 04/19/2008, -12/+38There is nothing wrong with religion, it's what the people in charge of the religion turn it into that is the problem. None of the holy books were written to be taken as the literal truth it's what the people in charge do with that text that is the problem.
      • Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -3/+8Agreed. I have no problem with spirituality - I think more people should pursue it.
      • ssn697, on 04/19/2008, -9/+5"There is nothing wrong with religion, it's what the people in charge of the religion turn it into that is the problem. "

        To be truthful, there are a lot of things wrong with religion, but I will accept you basic premise as more than just a simple answer.
    • Methodius, on 04/19/2008, -2/+50I am ambivalent as far as religion is concerned. What I AM a fan of is awesome dudes. This guy has demonstrated that he is one.
      • crazydiode, on 04/19/2008, -2/+20never once did he lose his cool.. mann I swear to God. I would have smacked the reporter.. ***** bastard.
        The Rev tried to put some mind into that ***** in vain.
      • rpaffett, on 04/19/2008, -1/+9I find it impossible to disagree with your sentiments. This dude ran the reporter over like a cement truck full of wits and straight intelligence. The best part by far is how the Fox guy whimpers at the end after Father Pfleger's thunderous finishing move.

        Father Pfleger, you have my utmost respect as an Awesome Dude.
      • blaze03, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1Could not agree with you more. This guy is an awesome dude and he straight up owned that little bitch from Fox.

        I am amazed they ran this segment on air, must have been live.
    • cheezintern, on 04/19/2008, -1/+9couldn't agree with you more. He responded very well to random faux news guy's attacks about everything. Unfortunately I don't think this interview will get very much air time on faux news itself because Father Pfleger hit on exactly why faux news sucks. It preys on its viewers ignorance to portray things as they aren't.
    • dougdiggerton, on 04/19/2008, -12/+1Im white, and im gettin sick of being called a racist every other day, directly or indirectly i think the term racism is thrown around too quickly
      • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -9/+2The way a neo-liberal sees things anyone who doesn't foam at the mouth for everything multi-culti is a racist. Get used to it and dont take it personally.
        • dn11, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4woah, what? "neo-liberal" LOL....
          • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -4/+3I made it up but it seems to fit. These modern wannabe's are are only aping a distorted image of liberals from the 60's. Most of them dont even seem to genuinely believe or understand the things they say, they're just mimicking whatever they think sounds cool.
            Pseudo-liberal is probably more apt.
  • br0wnstar, on 04/19/2008, -8/+29Hmmm. I could swear this looks familiar....

    I'm a huge fan of Obama, and I also really appreciated the ownage in this video. But for christ's sake, it's in the top stories AS I WRITE THIS.
    • arcticblue, on 04/19/2008, -4/+7Yeah, these dupes are getting ridiculous. Digg isn't even interesting any more since all this Obama/Hillary ***** started getting duped over and over. I like Obama, but this is hurting Digg. Buried.
      • dn11, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1hey, you can disable political stories... if you want to. just a friendly reminder. I do it from time to time just to get away from it for a while even though I digg a lot of the stories
  • Kas70, on 04/19/2008, -8/+61Saw this earlier today but it's still worth another digg.

    LOVE that priest.
  • Tweets, on 04/19/2008, -23/+4Wasn't this story on the front page just last week?
    • queotic, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3Not everyone knows every single story that's made it to the frontpage.
  • Shiftgood, on 04/19/2008, -22/+14I cant tell whats worse. Fox news for trying to shift opinion or the people that believe that *****.

    it all makes me want to poop.
  • camilos007, on 04/19/2008, -9/+58Smart priest. Digg ++.
  • blackbamboo, on 04/19/2008, -60/+9oh ok...now the liberals think Catholic Priest as so cool. So does this mean you will take the Catholic Church's stance on abortion? I love it, after the leftist media forced Huckabee and Romney out of the race because of their religion all of the sudden Obama and Clinton found god.
    • Shiftgood, on 04/19/2008, -10/+22dude, if you died, id be happy.

      not even kidding.
      • Scorpy2643, on 04/19/2008, -37/+3i hope your mother is raped to death, you ***** inbred *****

        not even kidding
        • Arcesius, on 04/19/2008, -3/+12Juicy report-worthy material... thanks!
        • Digger1218, on 04/19/2008, -17/+4@ Arcesius: OoOoOoOo Reported Oh noes!

          Seriously, both are ***** up statements, but you're a douche for reporting an internet comment.
    • chaosium, on 04/19/2008, -3/+14"oh ok...now the liberals think Catholic Priest as so cool."

      American Catholics are in general "liberal" aside from the CDL fundamentalists.
      • MacEnvy, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6This is interestingly true in my experience as well. The Catholic church in the rural hamlet where I grew up had most of the Democrats in town, while the Republicans attended one of the two Baptist churches the next town over. We went to the Catholic church, and my mom was one of only 5 registered Liberals in our whole County (one of the others being a Catholic priest two towns over!).
        • lostarchitect, on 04/19/2008, -5/+1registered liberals?
          • chaosium, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2Dems.
          • MacEnvy, on 04/19/2008, -2/+6Yes, registered as members of the "Liberal Party". There is such a thing, you know. In NYS we have some rather powerful third parties, including the Liberal Party, the Constitution Party, and most importantly, the Working Families Party (union-oriented).
          • lostarchitect, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1i live in NYS. never heard of them.
    • matadata, on 04/19/2008, -1/+28You don't have to concede to the entire belief system of some individual just because you agree with comments they made.
      I'm not sure why I'm wasting words with you. Your inability or unwillingness to understand this is self-evident.
    • Cwan123, on 04/19/2008, -1/+12I don't understand why it even matters that he's Catholic. It's kind of funny that someone expects all Obama supporters to be some sort of cookie cutter Democrat. But isn't that the wonder of Obama's campaign and that he bridges these people together despite the fact they have differences in their world views? This video wasn't about Democrats supporting someone who's Catholic. It's about someone who chose to defend a close colleague and friend against what the media has presented Reverend Wright as. But it's kind of funny that you think Huckabee and Romney were cast down by the media because of their views, but fail to see that the same is exactly what happened to Reverend Wright.
    • malex, on 04/19/2008, -1/+10Blackbamboo, you seem to be unable to differentiate between a individual person and what he has to say and the positions of whatever group or organization that person belongs to. This is probably at the core of many of your problems.
    • MrSalty, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5I'm pretty sure the voters forced Huckabee and Romney out of the election, not the "liberal media."
    • andymci, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2When will you people stop labeling every goddamn thing in existence?! Why does it always have to be one extreme to the next?! Jeez.
  • GrodyChamp, on 04/19/2008, -29/+8Most unbiased title ever.
    • br0wnstar, on 04/19/2008, -4/+9Um.... titles don't really have to be objective...
    • CTK14A, on 04/19/2008, -4/+19I find the title to be quite fair and balanced.
    • MacEnvy, on 04/19/2008, -1/+10The truth hurts. Did you watch the video? I mean, the whole thing?
  • 11familyguy11, on 04/19/2008, -9/+102On Digg, we bash religion all day, but if a religious man wants to own Faux News, i'm game. Dugg.
    • knumbknuts, on 04/19/2008, -16/+11You say that with such pride. Sad.
    • unusualbob, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1This post isn't really about religion, this is probably one of the more intelligent religious people I've ever heard. He brought up his religion a couple times mainly because he wanted to equate a white priest with a black priest and point out that fox was racist for trying to say otherwise.
  • Oea420, on 04/19/2008, -8/+87Dugg for the fox goon's line..

    "Obama is about to be....errr has a good shot at being the next President."

    This should all but confirm Obama's win, amirite?
    • kingmanic, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Read it again:
      "OBAMA IS ABOUT TO BE....errr has a good SHOT at being the next President."

      I like the man, I hope he has a long tenure as president but with the state of the US being as it is Obama will be a president for a very short tenure due to some crazed factions and hateful factions within the US.
  • pennvneff, on 04/19/2008, -5/+67Did Bill O'reilly serve in the Marines?
    • pintomp3, on 04/19/2008, -3/+30yes, in the loofah brigade.
    • rodelero2, on 04/19/2008, -23/+1at least bill never said god damn america
      • MrSalty, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5As far as you know. I have my doubts.
      • Atmandk, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3"god damn america"

        -bill
      • alk509, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2At least Rev. Wright never sexually harassed an employee and then lied about it. He also doesn't engage in bizarre sexual practices involving shoving fallafel patties up women's pussies.
    • Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -2/+28No. He never served. But he did lie about being under fire, and was called out on it, on-air, by a marine.
    • dn11, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3he served in the trenches of Inside Edition - digging up the tabloid dirt as a true American hero - keeping the world safe for dishonesty in the media. god bless him.
    • RustyJ, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6What's even funnier is later on in the video just because he made that comment, the goon brought it back on him that he called bill oreily a racist and a bigot. They must go through year-long spin doctoring classes before they can go on field.
    • vidorian, on 04/19/2008, -4/+3Lee Harvey Oswald
      Timothy Mcvey
      Both former military. Just because Wright was a marine does not make him "patrotic" or a "good american". I'm sorry but anyone who claims the U.S. government created the aids virus and sells drugs to black men is a crackpot. Doesn't matter if that person is a left wing or a right wing nut they are still a nut.
      • OatmealBatman2, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3If you watch the video, you'll see that Father Pfleger has known Reverend Wright for a long time and uses this relationship as basis for the determination that he makes. Reverend Wright does not belong with the likes of Oswald or McVey. One man preaches the word of god each Sunday, and the other two will go down in infamy for killing innocent people. Claiming that the three are just different kinds of nuts is ridiculous. The US government creating the AIDS virus is a farfetched claim, but so is a government funded study that infected hundreds of unknowing black men with syphillis to study its effects, and that was called the Tuskegee Study, and was real.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Unt ...
        • vidorian, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1I was not comparing Wright to those two. I was simply saying that just because you are former military it does not make you a good person.
          The only thing i called Wright is a crackpot and nut which i think he is.

          Also what the government did 60 years ago is a whole other issue. There is no basis for his claims of the US creating aids or selling drugs to keep black men down.
  • EvolutionTheory, on 04/19/2008, -5/+37This man is awesome.
    • Arcesius, on 04/19/2008, -4/+11Agreed. I really wish I could have that kind of composure when talking to some *@&# like that.
  • BetterWatching, on 04/19/2008, -5/+50I love this guy! Obama is bringing out the reason and intelligence in this country once again.
    After so many years of retardation it's time we attack the problems and not dwell on sound bites, disillusion, and simplicity. It's a complex world around us, let's treat it as what it is.
    • Scorpy2643, on 04/19/2008, -24/+1no, he's not bringing out anything. his racist priest. he's pals with a known terrorist, one who stated he didn't do enough damage in the crime he was convicted of. this guy is an asshat.
      • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -3/+8Please, come back and reply after Hannity's buddy Hal Turner has given you some new talking points.
      • Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -2/+7Your desperation is palpable! Keep it up. We love it. We love to see your fear.
    • rexreason, on 04/19/2008, -4/+1"Obama is bringing out the reason and intelligence in this country once again. " Yeah, like political geniuses Will.I.Am and Obama Girl. Thank God we have the benefit of their wisdom, all due to Obama.
  • SaladCactusKing, on 04/19/2008, -27/+1Wellp, this headline is just screaming for a pedo joke, fortunately I am better than that.
    • MacEnvy, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8So now any headline with the word "priest" evokes thoughts of pederasty? I'm an atheist but I've known some very kind and caring priests in my life (even after my personal "revelations"), and they are as shocked and disgusted as you at the idea of such betrayal of trust by some clergy members. It takes a lot of sacrifice to become a priest, and we should celebrate the good ones, the ones who demonstrate love and generosity. Let's lock up the bad guys and keep the good guys around, okay?
  • glitchbit, on 04/19/2008, -49/+6Only the dailykos and digg users could think that, that preist actually owned fox o0.

    That preist is a nut and the reporter did a good job showing the preists own inconsistances in his arguments. (Also I think that African american behind him is holding a gun to his back j/king ;)
    • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8So you think the reporter came out as the "winner" in this interview?

      Take off your blinders, you dittohead!
    • Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -3/+10You know, when the website you're posting on actually supplies a spellcheck feature, and you can't use it, that's a pretty good measure of the unreliability of your intellect.
    • Aensland, on 04/19/2008, -2/+10If you pulled your head out of your ass, you might actually hear what they are saying instead of having to imagine things.
    • MrSalty, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4I before e, except after c.
    • futebollounge, on 04/19/2008, -1/+8omfg i cant beileve you actually believe that.... OMG it blows my mind that people like you exist.
    • Atmandk, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1you're a digg user.
    • alk509, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1Who or what is the "preist"?
    • S1ngular1ty1, on 04/19/2008, -5/+1I sort of agree with this guy. The priest believed what he wanted to and didn't even consider the reporter's point of view. Hmm, sounds familiar. Isn't that how religion usually works?

      There is no doubt Obama's preacher said things he shouldn't have on several occasions, and some of the things could be taken as racist remarks. The fact the preacher can't see this means he is truly arrogant and ignorant. People who say things like Obama's preacher said usually believe what they are saying even if they don't say it in public and say it just in front of the "family." The preacher's defense was sort of weak.

      I personally don't hold it against Obama just as I wouldn't hold against anyone what their acquaintance or friend says. As long as Obama doesn't believe the same things, then I could care less what some crazy preacher says.
      • alk509, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Well, I'll respectfully disagree with your analysis and ask, if you don't mind, that you explain how Reverend Wright's comments can be interpreted as racist (other than by completely mangling the meaning of the term "racist"). I'm not being facetious here: I can see how some people might be offended by his comments, but I can't really see how they were racist, yet I've seen a lot of people claim they were.
        • S1ngular1ty1, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788

          Oh, I don't know. Maybe when he calls the USA the US of KKK A. That guy is crazy. He says "The government lied. The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied."

          He also said "America was founded on genocide, and a nation that is founded on genocide is destructive." Among other such comments.
          • alk509, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1Again, those comments may offend some people, but how are they racist?
      • MrSalty, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2Reporters aren't supposed to offer points of view. They're supposed to report. And why should an interview subject "consider the reporter's point of view"?
  • totallydismayed, on 04/19/2008, -5/+101I love how the reporter tried to throw a Dr. King quote at the priest and not only did the priest own him on the quote but was able to basically say "I actually knew Dr. King..." completely pwning him.
  • sivsta, on 04/19/2008, -4/+41This priest threw back just about everything Fox News threw in his face.
  • DONFLYGUY, on 04/19/2008, -4/+42Damn. That ***** was the truth. We need more people who are willing to stick their neck out for the truth if we want any changes.
  • Revlution4ever, on 04/19/2008, -6/+54holy crap, he just pwned that fox news reporter.

    wow. i wanna attend this guys church. one of the smartest men i have heard in a while. god bless him.
    • MortalynFlux, on 04/19/2008, -2/+9Reporter? Not by any standard. More like a guy with a big mike. I wonder if that big mike is compensating for something.
  • MidgardMurda, on 04/19/2008, -5/+19That is the definition of Truthism.
  • JFenC, on 04/19/2008, -36/+1and in other news the Pope eats rats and tries to kill Jesus! see the video here: http://digg.com/comics_animation/Pope_Benedict_eat ...
  • pintomp3, on 04/19/2008, -3/+41how long until billo declares this priest a terrorist lover?
  • xcrunner1422, on 04/19/2008, -3/+52The reporter is probably sitting at his kitchen table right now, wondering what the hell just happened.
    • crazydiode, on 04/19/2008, -1/+16no he wont. Even after the priest tried to reason with him.. he was still stubbornly stupid.
  • skunkmere, on 04/19/2008, -3/+31wow that priest is the MAN!!!
  • Stowz, on 04/19/2008, -3/+905:31
    "When white people criticize America, they are critical. When black people criticize America they are haters of America. Its very interesting to me how we have those double standards in the media."

    Great Comment!
    • glitchbit, on 04/19/2008, -19/+2yea I remember when Obama first started his campaign everyone said he was hating on America... wait a minute they said he was being critical..

      only later after after seeing the people he surrounds himself with did they start connecting the dots did they propose he may not love america as much as they once thought. Sounds a like unbaised and fair shake down to me...

      Second of all the News is OWNED by democrates, not little old conservative fox (being the Only conservative news station though their ratings do soar)..
      • asdfkane, on 04/19/2008, -1/+8Please read the book "What Liberal Media?" and do not comment again here before you complete it.

        Thank you. Good day.

        P.S.
        Obama is a senator. That is a 'white man's job'. And I seem to recall people saying that he is 'not black enough' which would spare him from criticisms of 'hating on America' even though, yes, he did receive those as well. He's 'unpatriotic' and 'un-American' for not wearing a flag pin, for being the acquaintance of one of the Weathermen, for going to Rev. Wright's church, etc. etc. etc....

        What liberal media?
        • mal1964, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Thanks for the book reference. Myself when I hear "people saying" I never really hear it from people i hear it from the media. So I then use my own judgment not the media version.
      • Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5Sad failure.
      • SkinnerBox, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Reverend Wright is in the news because he is connected to Obama, and Obama is black. (Well half, so why is he considered black and not white? It's called hypodescent and it's a white purity thing, but that's another story). Once again, what crazy things have the ministers that support McCain or Bush said? Katrina was God's punishment for gays? Why is this not making the news? Becuase Bush and McCain are not black. Obama is not an "angry black man" so they had to find someone to stand in for that.
    • mal1964, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4I believe that quote is used in the media at times, But it never stuck out so blatantly different as it really is. So I think I must of viewed it as having the same meaning. I'm not saying that's good or bad I'm saying I think that's how i heard and viewed it over the years.
  • Noiremorte, on 04/19/2008, -4/+18Woot! Kick his ass, sea bass!
  • elfprince13, on 04/19/2008, -3/+33glad to see news coverage of other Christians, like the ones I know--and am, who are concerned about social justice, and spreading God's message of love, and who don't forget that jesus was criticized in his time for eating with prostitutes and tax collectors.
    • glitchbit, on 04/19/2008, -16/+3What in the world? You are actually comparing Wright to Jesus? I am sorry but when you compare any man on earth to Jesus there is something wrong with you.
      • enclaved, on 04/19/2008, -0/+9Of course Jesus is held up for comparison, his actions are the basis on which christian behavior is defined. You're an idiot, even with my disassociation from religion I can see the validity in the above posters statement.
        • flip2trip, on 04/19/2008, -2/+2No he's comparing someone who said that whites infected blacks with HIV/Aids, and that white people give blacks drugs and then put them in jail for selling those drugs, with Jesus. You think that's a valid comparison?
          • enclaved, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1No, he's comparing someone who is friends with someone who said those things. Besides that, you really think it's not racist that the penalty for crack is vastly more punitive then cocaine while the user base of the two drugs is starkly divided down racial lines?
            Even if the 'whites' aka the government didn't stick a needle in a monkey and then use the same needle on a black person they are culpable for the misinformation regarding the disease in its early days by vigorously equating it with inter venous drug use and homosexuality it left a woefully large population of african americans unprepared for the epidemic both in the United States and even more so in Africa.

            Let's not forget, that the bible tells a tale of Jesus up heaving tables in the market place as a protest to the abuse of a temple, and it's in the same vein that people like this Priest, and King, and even Wright speak out against the what THEY PERCEIVE as injustices against them and those they consider theirs. It's in those actions that they are more like the biblical Jesus then you could probably imagine.

            (Disclaimer: I do not believe in religion or that the bible is a historically accurate account of events)
    • rewinn, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Yep. Jesus taught that "Love" is not "Servility to Power" as the Fox dude would have it. It's nice to see Christians do the right thing, and unfortunate that worshippers of Mammon use Christ's name in vain.
  • theboozer, on 04/19/2008, -9/+4Goddamit, when did FOX news get trashier than late night infomercials?
  • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -20/+1Interesting. He's got some good points. But his somewhat patois like accent causes me wonder a little.
    • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -2/+6So, "he sounds like a black, so we should doubt him"?

      Your racism is showing.
      • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -10/+1I didn't say we should doubt him. I said he made some good points. I didn't even say he sounded black, but your right he does. It just seems to me that if he's gone so far as to adopt black speech patterns, then he has obviously immersed himself in that culture to a degree which in my experience usually dictates, especially for an outsider that he tow the line as far as the things he says.
        Basically his apparent adoption of african american culture tells me I'm not sure that I take what he's saying as a neutral opinion.
        Gee bjorn, you hurt my feelings. I hope your proud of yourself.
        • Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -1/+7There is no such thing as a 'black speech pattern'. It's cultural, and it has nothing to do with the color of your skin. What you're demonstrating, probably without knowing it, is bigotry.
          • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -8/+1What you just said makes no sense. Is there no such thing as a black speech pattern or is it cultural? You want it both ways but it doesn't work that way you *****.
          • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5British blacks don't sound like that.

            It's a cultural thing, not a racial one.
          • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -4/+1"It's cultural, and it has nothing to do with the color of your skin."
            "It's a cultural thing, not a racial one."
            So who's culture would you describe it as?
          • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3It's an American thing.
          • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1^ You liberals really are delusional. But I've been to Minneapolis so I know why your all ***** up. I feel sorry for you.
        • superdoofus, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4why don't you just come out and say it, you think he's a "nigger lover".
          no need for all your convolutions, just say it, it's rather obvious that is what you're trying to thinly veil.
          • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -5/+1Did you just type the word "nigger lover" and accuse me of racism. You fake liberals ***** twisted.
          • superdoofus, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2"nigger lover" is longtime term for whites that offer consideration or sympathy towards the plight or concerns of black americans. judging by your sentence structure and swayed interpretation, i'm going to guess that you're rather drunk now and are firing on one barrel.
            and if you think he spoke with a patois, i suggest comparing his speech to mr. rodgers. his speech patterns sounded quite similar to, and i would equate his style more towards early pbs or.1950's newsreels.
          • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -3/+1I don't need the definition. Your the one who said it, thats your word.
            Did you learn that word from your black friends or from a black history course you took in college?
          • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3It's got it's roots with the KKK crowd. It's hardly a "liberal word"

            If he really needed to attach the /s tag so you'd understand, I'm sorry.
          • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -3/+2Are you implying superdoofus is in the KKK crowd bjorn? He may be a little insensetive but I wouldn't go that far.
          • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3Nope. I'm implying he's baiting this rob guy who made a silly snarky comment which didn't quite say what he thought it did.
          • robthom, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1I know exactly what I said, and I'm not the one who said nigger lover. Amd your the one resorting to leet talk and going in circles because you dont have any point to add.
  • Infidelcastr0, on 04/19/2008, -5/+29This video needs to be played over and over and over again every single day, quoted on every news show, brought up at every debate and generally pounded into voter's skulls.
    • glitchbit, on 04/19/2008, -15/+6lol sure go right ahead.... it is funny how liberals think certain things will help them end up doing the opposite, because they are too blind to see how it can be taken by the other side.

      Remember those clips of Wright played on national TV? Well guess who gave them that footage? His own church was passing that stuff out on DVD.

      I can see it both ways, but like you I agree with a view point that I feel is most valid, but if you can't see it being taken any way but one then it only helps the opposing side.

      There is a reason why Bush got a second term and it had more to do with democrates than it did conservatives lol...
      • MortalynFlux, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6"The clips" themselves were not "passed around" like flyers or candy. It is standard practice in most churches to keep a library of sermons and make them available for a donation. The New York Times knew Rev. Wright was a controversial figure and they dug through hours and hours of sermons until they found the clips they thought would be most damaging to Obama.
        • MortalynFlux, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Correction: I meant to write "ABC News" instead of "The New York Times."
      • alk509, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Who or what is the "democrates"?
        • flip2trip, on 04/19/2008, -4/+2Good catch. Spelling Nazi.
          • alk509, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2Don't like spelling nazis? Then don't be a spelling jew!
        • lydecker, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Socrates' younger brother.
          • MisterFreeze, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2I always thought that was Lacrates.
  • DragonDawg, on 04/19/2008, -5/+7Spread the word.
  • semrocks, on 04/19/2008, -22/+3Buried. I lived in Chicago for a number of years and have heard him speak several times. He's not all he's cracked up to be...
    • Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4Yeah, & I went to the moon and boffed Marilyn Monroe.
      • superdoofus, on 04/19/2008, -3/+2i'll give you $1.6 million dollars for the footage! yeah, you heard me, one point SIX!
      • semrocks, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Idiot.
    • queotic, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4So basically, what you're saying is that instead of watching the video and judging the priest on his words, his logic, his points etc, you choose to bury this because you know and disagree with him?
      • semrocks, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1No, what I'm saying is that my knowledge of him extends far beyond this clip. Have you heard him speak, other than this little clip?
  • sheebz, on 04/19/2008, -4/+23Wow, this really shows how rediculous Fox News is. Almost every question the guy asked him was completely loaded. Great job Father Pfleger.
  • srfrogger, on 04/19/2008, -3/+32Holy crap, last minute is priceless. "You repackage him [Dr. King] into this loving little sweet guy."
  • avaiki, on 04/19/2008, -5/+42I think that reporter was in a state of shock at Father's last words, following up on an earlier comment about speaking "truth to power."

    "Martin Luther King spoke the truth and that's why they had him killed."

    Then Father simply turns away, leaving the reporter to understand the real meaning of righteousness. Thrilling.
    • Risingashes, on 04/19/2008, -1/+11The reporter was a stubborn blockhead. He will not of absorbed any of that and tomorrow he'll be pulling the same tricks.
  • dmbchris, on 04/19/2008, -3/+28Did they actually air this whole thing on the main Fox channel? It seems odd they would show someone speaking the truth for so long.
    • jun2san, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Fox probably aired it because they thought the reporter was the one doing the pwning. Perspective is a funny thing.
  • Photokon, on 04/19/2008, -3/+23Damn that guy got schooled. Last minute is gold. I love how they try to say the preacher said Bill O' Reilly is a racist, he never said that, lol. Then he tore the guy up on MLK.
  • p0s3r, on 04/19/2008, -8/+9Why must we focus on Wright's actions of 40 years ago but ignore Ayer's actions of 40 years ago? Makes no sense.
    • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -5/+4IOKIYAR
      • Wartyboskfapped, on 04/19/2008, -4/+3(he's too dim to parse that, you may have to supply a link to urban dictionary)
        • p0s3r, on 04/19/2008, -6/+3Why would I know dailykos & huffpo comment lingo? How does it even apply to my comment? What's ok if I'm a Republican? The Liberals telling me what a great Marine Wright was back in 1960 while in the same breath telling me to ignore what a dispicible terrorist Ayers was back in 1960? That's supposed to be ok if I'm a Republican? It makes no sense.
        • flip2trip, on 04/19/2008, -5/+1@p0s3r---when does a liberal EVER make sense?
  • voxlisa999, on 04/19/2008, -3/+26Amazing. I wish this Priest was at a Church near me- maybe I would go once in awhile. The sleaze just oozes out of that reporter- I can't believe he kept at it for so long. Didn't he realize how dumb he sounded? I wish all politicians would speak as candidly as Father Pfleger!!
    • litfsh, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1The reporter kept going for so long hoping to get the priest to say something negative about Wright or Obama. All of the other stuff would have been edited out at that point, and the negative sound byte would have then become the first 'question' at the next democratic debate.
  • Ryan805, on 04/19/2008, -9/+1Huh?
  • mal1964, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4Bill and Hillary Clinton. Just a reminder that nothing negative has been said about them in these comments yet.
    • JeffD, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3They both have two L's in their names... damned double consonant loving hillbillies.
  • rodelero2, on 04/19/2008, -18/+6I am a big Obama supported but seriously.

    Rev. Wright's comments are inexcusable, I know we all love obama and are blinded by him already. If Obama murdered his wife you would find an excuse to dismiss it as another fox news smear right?

    The fact is that "god damn america" is not taken out of context, and I dont care if he was a marine. Even if the president himself said "god damn america" I'd be ***** just as much.
    • shugdoo, on 04/19/2008, -3/+8Geez Louise, haven't YOU ever said anything while pumped up that you might have phrased differently upon reflection? You're buying into one of that little jerk-off's talking points hook, line and sinker. Faux Noise and all the others goosestepping along are trying to dilute a real American's entire distinguished career into a small soundbite loop and you're letting it affect you. Let's roll the Howard Dean scream a few more times while we're at it. This country claims to be the light of the world but rarely seems to deserve it lately.
    • acroyear2, on 04/19/2008, -3/+1Many of us feel the same way but don't have a well enough understanding of Wright to judge him as much as the media has. It's a difficult sentiment. He's made a very poor first impression for many.
      • queotic, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3When I first watched the clips, they did not leave a bad impression on me. I thought - what exactly is the problem? Speaking out against racism is not racist.
    • Risingashes, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4You listened to 5 second sound bites of an entire speech. What he said was not inexcusable- I ask you to actually think about what you're saying as you've clearly been conned in to thinking any of this has any kind of legitimacy.
      Patriotism is recognizing a societies ills- not excusing them.
      Wright's "god damn America" was specifically addressing the blind patriotism that has been employed by Fox News to ridicule him. It's a prime example of what is wrong with the media today.
    • Ryland, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3If Obama is guilty for supporting Rev. Wright, then what about people who support the Falwells and Pat Robertsons of the world? If someone listens to Pat Robertson, the man who said that gays are responsible for the September 11th attacks, do you dismiss them as you're dismissing Obama? Is anyone who ever supported Ted Haggard guilty of supporting drug use and gay prostitution? Even if Rev. Wright is as bad as you say (which isn't proved), it doesn't mean his congregation are a crowd of bigots and extremists for going to his church.
      • rexreason, on 04/19/2008, -0/+0"If someone listens to Pat Robertson, the man who said that gays are responsible for the September 11th attacks, do you dismiss them as you're dismissing Obama?"

        You bet. And rightly so. Neither Robertson nor Wright should be spiritual advisors to anyone running this country.
    • Safat, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4“And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent, she failed. She put them on reservations.”
      “When it came to putting her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in interment prison camps.”
      “When it came to putting the citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains. The government put them on slave quarters. Put them on auction blocks. Put them in cotton fields. Put them in inferior schools. Put them in substandard housing. Put them scientific experiments. Put them in the lower paying jobs. Put them outside the equal protection of the law. Kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education, and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness.”
      “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strike law and then wants us to sing God Bless America. Naw, naw, naw. Not God Bless America. God Damn America! That’s in the Bible. For killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating its citizens as less than human. God Damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is Supreme.”
      This is what offends you so horribly? You want us to change the 'damn's into 'bless's? God bless America for killing innocent people? God bless America for treating its citizens as less than human? God bless America for Japanese internment camps, Indian reservations, Jim Crow, and slavery? Well, damn, you're a bigoted asshole!
      • p0s3r, on 04/19/2008, -10/+2Do you know why we must still suffer from the sins of America 200 years ago? Because it's profitable to race pimps like Wright, Obama, Jackson and Sharpton.
        • alk509, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Actually, it's because the descendants of the people hurt by those sins are still being hurt by their legacy. If you can't see the race inequality in America, you're a moron. If you can see it, and still think people like Rev. Wright are "race pimps" out to make a profit, you're a bigoted asshole.
      • queotic, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5I don't know why you're being dugg down. If people read the entire quote in context, they would see that Wright wasn't being racist. He was speaking out against the well-known and documented racism which is still a problem in this country (though we have made enormous strides in these past 40 years). Is there anything in the above quote which isn't true?
  • malex, on 04/19/2008, -1/+25Okay, seriously... who exactly did Fox send to do this "interview"? This kid is so inarticulate and argumentative that he makes Digg trolls sound scholarly in comparison.

    "But... but.. some people... people say that..."
    • bjornski, on 04/19/2008, -3/+8Fox News makes diggers sound scholarly in comparison.
    • SkinnerBox, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1I know, when did this become passable for journalism? A real reporter doesn't editorialize right in an interviewee's face. I love that with Digg and the internet, these little flubs can't just be buried in a warehouse at Fox. Once they are out, they are OUT.
  • Gustavus, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6Fantastic. Simply Fantastic.
  • T3hJ3hu, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3That was awesome.
  • acroyear2, on 04/19/2008, -1/+12"He spoke truth to this country... that's why he's dead now..."

    frighteningly true.
  • jmwood42, on 04/19/2008, -1/+8wow. that was strong. if more clergymen demonstrated that sort of intelligence and strength of character, my cynicism toward organized religion would be all but erased. It was nice to have my stereotypes completely crushed by this man's speech. well done Father Pfleger!

    being placed next to someone like Father Pfleger really puts into perspective how much of a goon that fox reporter is. i almost felt sorry for that goofy little tool... he must have messed something up really bad to get thrown to the wolves like that! down with fox noise.
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