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  • rjwusa, on 10/03/2008, -54/+45Biden is a democrat. Whenever he opens his mouth, like all democrats ('cept Barney Frank; -he's opening for something else!), Biden's lying.
    • badqat, on 10/03/2008, -16/+27Leave Barney alone. LOL! He probably can't sit after what O'Reilly did to him tonight. Of course, he probably can't normally most of the time.
  • badqat, on 10/03/2008, -54/+48Biden lied? Oh come on now, next thing I know you're going to tell me he plagiarizes.
    • gbudavid, on 10/04/2008, -4/+2I thought he quit the "P: word in 1988
  • stonebear, on 10/03/2008, -43/+9I didn't watch the debate (chucked anyone related to the McBama campaign in the trash long ago), but I've seen him spewing them steadily on the 911 commission, and the Waco massacre hearings. McCain's got nothing on him, though he does try. I don't think anyone can out lie George W. Bush; he's the world champion so far.
    • skmckinny, on 10/03/2008, -16/+22Aaaw.. you really missed a good one. Biden got really beaten up and he gaffed after gaffe.. and scratched his one cheek, his lips, his other cheek, his eye, his neck, his neck on the other side, his eye, his forehead.. and he sighed about 4 times.

      Quite a show. Palin just excelled in the debate and showed she is READY!!!
      • Dreamzville, on 10/04/2008, -0/+7If you believe that, I have a Bridge to Nowhere to sell you...
        How easily you are fooled ...sad.
      • MarciaJ720, on 10/05/2008, -0/+1What debate were you watching? I guess the winks got you off track and thinking with other body parts.

        Sorry, debate-wise there was no comparison. When someone says to the moderator that I'm going not going to answer your questions but talk about my own - is a lost cause.

        And the dumb Joe-Six-Packs of America will vote for her cause well, they are secretly fantasizing about her in their bathrooms.
    • InRussetShadows, on 10/03/2008, -12/+14Hmm. I think you've got Bush beat for the number of lies. After all, I'm sure you think he lied about yellowcake in Niger, too, which 1 minute of research would disprove.
  • skmckinny, on 10/03/2008, -41/+32Democracy is at risk if we do not mute the interests that counter the "1 person, 1 vote" fundamental principle of democracy.

    Obama rose to power in IL Senate by tossing his mentor Alice Palmer off the ballot along with two others to get a free walk; e disenfranchised the IL voters. You know the fraudulent primaries and caucuses of the 2008 primaries. MI and FL voters were disenfranchised from the get-go, knowing that it would alter the course of the nomination. 5/31 RBC ruling day was a fiasco and utter defeat for democracy. Going into Denver, after "granting" MI and FL delegates full voting in Denver, the gap in pledged delegates for Obama vs.Clinton was down to 17. Did you know that? Inspite of that, the super delegates had no opportunity to exercise their better judgment. The DNC muted their voice by putting pressure on the pledged delegates and by staging a sham of a roll call and muting the roll call. The DNC has tossed democracy and it is mostly thanks to the shenanigans of their candidate.

    Yes, Sarah Palin is absolutely right when she said (during the debate yesterday) that we must safeguard our freedom.. or we will tell our grandchildren what freedom was like.

    Please safeguard freedom. Please save democracy in the US. Please vote McCain-Palin. Thank you.
  • buddywlkr3, on 10/03/2008, -40/+35Over the next few days we will be treated to a series of analysis articles in the media that attempt to show how Palin misstated facts or got issues wrong, but anyone watching the debate saw that Biden was just like his boss, spinning things to suit the moment, rewriting history and saying outright lies in order to make points. Probably the best part of the debate in my opinion was when Palin made her remark about how people from small town America just couldn't understand why those people in Washington can't say what they mean and be consistent in their statements.
    • Dreamzville, on 10/04/2008, -2/+5YES PEOPLE...listen to Buddywlkr3...FOR GOD'S SAKE, *DON"T* let anyone ever tell you the TRUTH!!!

      You can make up your OWN TRUTH...YOU'RE MCCAIN/PALIN FOLLOWERS.

      If anyone ever tries to tell you about ALL THOSE LIES they tell CONSTANTLY...

      JUST PRETEND YOU DIDN'T HEAR 'EM. YOU BETCHA!!!!!!
  • brianmita, on 10/03/2008, -21/+43buried for few references.
  • glinsvad, on 10/03/2008, -28/+9Having dugg so many McCain-lies entries lately, I'm digging this out of a principle of fairness.

    However, saying #14 is a lie seems mildly prophetic. Get back to me when Obama's presidency is up - then we'll audit.
  • Pitofdoom, on 10/03/2008, -30/+12But he won the debate.....
    It's just you evil conservatives trying to
    demean an Angelic fluffy democrat !
  • Pitofdoom, on 10/03/2008, -29/+12Who could be against the Jesse Jackson school of business & Chicago politics.
    • Dreamzville, on 10/04/2008, -2/+6Same ole *****, Pitofdoom...why don't you write your own material sometime???
      • Pitofdoom, on 10/04/2008, -4/+2I know what I see !!

        I made that up alone,
        with my own tiny little brain !!
  • stevets, on 10/03/2008, -11/+50The polls say that John McCain's support is dropping with his core base of Total ***** Morons. Judging by the comments above, I would say otherwise.

    Bury away!
  • mishelly888, on 10/03/2008, -9/+52Wow you conservatives get lamer and lamer AND more desperate as each day passes. It's quite amusing...carry on.
  • augiegram, on 10/03/2008, -7/+45Once again the Repugs start bleating. Like O'Reilly and Hannity they think it they keep screaming it and yelling over everybody it makes it so even when the facts don't support them. buried.
  • tracygav, on 10/03/2008, -8/+45Palin mistakenly claimed that troop levels in Iraq had returned to “pre-surge” levels. Levels are gradually coming down but current plans would have levels higher than pre-surge numbers through early next year, at least.

    Palin repeated a false claim that Obama once voted in favor of higher taxes on “families” making as little as $42,000 a year. He did not. The budget bill in question called for an increase only on singles making that amount, but a family of four would not have been affected unless they made at least $90,000 a year.

    Palin claimed McCain’s health care plan would be “budget neutral,” costing the government nothing. Independent budget experts estimate McCain's plan would cost tens of billions each year, though details are too fuzzy to allow for exact estimates.

    Palin wrongly claimed that “millions of small businesses” would see tax increases under Obama’s tax proposals.

    Palin said, "We're circulating about $700 billion a year into foreign countries" for imported oil, repeating an outdated figure often used by McCain. At oil prices current as of Sept. 30, imports are running at a rate of about $493 billion per year.

    Palin threw out an old canard when she criticized Obama for voting for the 2005 energy bill and said, “that’s what gave those oil companies those big tax breaks.” It’s a false attack Sen. Hillary Clinton used against Obama in the primary, and McCain himself has hurled. It’s true that the bill gave some tax breaks to oil companies, but it also took away others. And according to the Congressional Research Service, the bill created a slight net increase in taxes for the oil industry.

    Palin said that McCain had sounded the alarm on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago.
    By the time McCain added his name to the bill as a cosponsor, the collapse was well underway. Home prices began falling only two months later.

    Palin got newly appointed Gen. David D. McKiernan's name wrong when she called him McClellan. And, more important, Gen. McKiernan clearly did say that surge principles would not work in Afghanistan. As the Washington Post reported:
    Washington Post: "The word I don't use for Afghanistan is 'surge,' " McKiernan stressed, saying that what is required is a "sustained commitment" to a counterinsurgency effort that could last many years and would ultimately require a political, not military, solution.

    Palin said: “You do what I did as governor. And you appoint people regardless of party affiliation. Democrats, independents, Republicans, you walk the walk, don't just talk the talk.” [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    FACT: PALIN HIRED HER FRIENDS TO KEY ADMINISTRATION POSITIONS

    PALIN: “We have got to encourage other nations to come along with us with the impacts of climate change, what we can do about that. As governor I was the first governor to form a climate change subcabinet to start dealing with the impacts.”
    FACTS: PALIN WAS NOT THE FIRST GOVERNOR TO ACT ON CLIMATE CHANGE OR REORGANIZE HER CABINET TO DEAL WITH IT.

    Sarah Palin said: “Our founding fathers were wise in allowing flexibility in the office of the Vice President and we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president it's agenda in that position. Yes, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there and we will do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation.” [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    FACT: PALIN WOULD NOT RESPOND TO WHETHER THE VICE PRESIDENCY WAS PART OF THE EXECUTIVE OR THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH

    Sarah Palin said: “We need to put more of an emphasis on the profession of teaching, we need to make sure that education in either one of our agendas, I think, absolute top of the line.” [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    The facts: Education has not been a top priority for McCain. He has repeatedly opposed education funding, including funds to hire 100,000 new teachers.
    FACT: MCCAIN HAS REPEATEDLY VOTED AGAINST INCREASED FUNDING FOR NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND, MORE TEACHERS AND FOR FAILING SCHOOLS AND DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS
    FACT: MCCAIN WON’T FULLY FUND NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND LIKE HE CLAIMS
    FACT: MCCAIN SUPPORTS VOUCHERS

    Sarah Palin said: The nice thing about running with John McCain is I can assure you he doesn't tell one thing to one group and then turns around and tells something else to another group [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    The Facts: McCain Has Told Different Audiences Different Stories On Immigration; Palin Does Same With Bridge To Nowhere

    Sarah Palin said Obama opposed funding for the troops. [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    FACT: ATTACK ON TROOP FUNDING IS “HIGHLY MISLEADING”

    Sarah Palin said: “An increased tax formula that Barack Obama is proposing in addition to nearly a trillion dollars in new spending that he is proposing is the backwards way of trying to grow our economy.” [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    The Facts: Palin’s Claims About Obama’s Spending Have Been Debunked. Obama’s Plan Would Cut The Deficit Far More Than McCain’s.

    Sarah Palin said: “Now, as for John McCain's adherence to rules and regulations and pushing for even harder and tougher regulations, that is another thing that he is known for, though. Look at the tobacco industry." [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    The Facts: McCain Has Flip-Flopped On Tobacco Taxes
    2007: MCCAIN VOTED AGAINST EFFORT TO EXPAND SCHIP TO 5.8 MILLION CHILDREN BECAUSE IT RAISED TAXES ON TOBACCO AND IT EXPANDED COVERAGE TO MIDDLE-INCOME CHILDREN

    Sarah Palin said: “Barack Obama had 94 opportunities to side on the people's side and reduce taxes, and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction, 94 times. Now, that is not what we need to create jobs and really bolster and heat up our economy. We do need the private sector to be able to keep more of what we earn and produce.” [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    The Facts: McCain/Palin Claim On Taxes Is “FALSE”
    OBAMA HAS NOT VOTED 94 TIMES TO RAISE TAXES

    Sarah Palin said: “What I have done as a governor and as a mayor is true, they had the track record of reform, and I joined this team that is a team of mavericks with John McCain also, with his track record of reform, where we are known for putting partisan politics aside to just get the job done.” [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    FACT: McCain Has Been A Reliable Vote For George Bush And THE Republican Party

    Sarah Palin said: “American workforce is the greatest in this world, with the ingenuity and the work ethic that is just entrenched in our workforce.” [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    The Facts: John McCain Has Repeatedly Voted Against The Interests of American Workers.
    FACT: MCCAIN HAS REPEATEDLY OPPOSED EFFORTS TO HELP WORKERS INCLUDING VOTING AT LEAST 19 TIMES AGAINST INCREASING THE MINIMUM WAGE

    Sarah Palin said: “John McCain saying our economy was strong, he was talking to and about the American workforce, and the American workforce is the greatest in this world, with the ingenuity and the work ethic that is just entrenched in our workforce, that is a positive, that is encouragement, and that is what John McCain meant.” [Vice Presidential Debate, 10/2/08]
    The Facts: John McCain Has Said The Fundamentals Of the Economy Are Strong And That Americans Are Better Off Than They Were Eight Years Ago
    FACT: MCCAIN IS OUT OF TOUCH ON THE ECONOMY


















    • spankaccount, on 10/04/2008, -13/+2Can you provide a source for any of this or are we correct in assuming that it's all bs?
      • tracygav, on 10/04/2008, -0/+8You betcha!

        Belasco, Amy. "The Cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Other Global War on Terror Operations Since 9/11." 14 July 2008. Congressional Research Service. Accessed 2 October 2008.

        Pickler, Nedra. "Fact Check: Obama on Afghanistan." The Associated Press. 14 Aug. 2007.

        Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. "Promises, Promises: A Fiscal Voter Guide to the 2008 Election." U.S. Budget Watch. 29 Aug. 2008.

        Williams, Roberton and Howard Gleckman. "An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans." Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. 15 Sep. 2008.

        "Impacts of Increased Access to Oil and Natural Gas Resources in the Lower 48 Federal Outer Continental Shelf." 2007. Energy Information Administration. 8 Aug. 2008.

        Petroleum Basic Statistics. The Energy Information Administration, 3 Oct. 2008.

        NPC Global Oil & Gas Study. “Topic Paper #7, Global Access to Oil and Gas,” 18 July 2007.

        Clarke, David and Liriel Higa, "Blueprints Gain Narrow Adoption," Congressional Quarterly Weekly, 15 March 2008.

        "Iraq Index," Brookings Iraq Index.

        Baldor, Lolita C, "General: Urgent need for troops in Afghanistan now," Associated Press. 2 Oct 2008.

        "Bush: 8,000 Troops Coming Home By Feb," CBS/AP. 9 Sept 2008.

        Tyson, Ann Scott, "Commander in Afghanistan Wants More Troops," Washington Post. 2 Oct 2008.

        Barnes, Julian N., "More U.S. troops needed in Afghanistan 'quickly,' general says," Los Angeles Times. 2 Oct 2008.

        Table T08-0164 "Distribution of Tax Units with Business Income by Statutory Marginal Tax Rate, Assuming Extension and Indexation of the 2007 AMT Patch, 2009" Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, 20 May 2008.

        [Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation, Website ]

  • AWBoy666, on 10/03/2008, -22/+5---WARNING TO LIBERAL BURY BRIGADE---

    Digg has affirmed that shouting a story for the purposes of having it buried is AGAINST THE TOS. Your account will be BANNED for shouting with instructions to bury a story.

    For the sake of your account, please take this into consideration. Thanks!
    • JenniferInMO, on 10/04/2008, -2/+11et tu
      • AWBoy666, on 10/04/2008, -11/+2@JenniferInMO:

        Glad you saw my comment. It was squarely aimed at YOU. Enjoy.
      • JenniferInMO, on 10/09/2008, -1/+2@AWBoy666: I will continue to point out factually inaccurate articles. I do not bury articles that are opinion or are true. It is the McCain brigade which buries for inaccuracy videos of a speech, op-eds, and everything from a particular source. Feel free to look at my history. I hide nothing, but maybe you would benefit from actually reading some of the articles I digg and looking at why the articles I bury are factually inaccurate. I almost always leave comments as to why I bury something (except when they are so absurd that it's obvious).
    • dn11, on 10/04/2008, -5/+4http://i34.tinypic.com/2qj9grd.jpg
    • jperson, on 10/04/2008, -1/+14I disagree. By allowing promotion but forbidding demotion of articles, Digg will become overrun by smears and mudslinging articles from both sides. Voting an article up or down is a choice made completely by the person receiving a shout. No one is being forced. They can choose to ignore the shout or choose to contradict the shout with a Digg. The ability to freely vote content up or down is the cornerstone of Digg, in my opinion, and trying to control this behavior won't improve the overall quality of content. If anything, this changes the language of all shouts from "Please bury" or "Please Digg" to "What do you think?" with the same end result.
    • Evilena, on 10/04/2008, -0/+15It sounds like you are making things up. I just checked the TOS and I didn't see anything of the sort. Where did Digg supposedly affirm this?
    • ironhide, on 10/04/2008, -0/+14Point out the section in the TOS that indicates this. As with most of your accusations, I'm willing to bet you can't provide any bona fides.
    • Dreamzville, on 10/04/2008, -0/+13LIBERAL BURY BRIGADE???
      HOW DO YOU KNOW???
      You want to know why McPain and Failin' are tanking so badly??? Because there are actually some SMART conservatives out there who really DO honor the truth and they are now supporting Obama.

      Some of the "Liberal Bury Brigade" are YOUR CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS. GET A CLUE!!!
  • DCMAT, on 10/04/2008, -17/+1Just 14?
  • Echota, on 01/05/2009, -4/+16You people are desperate!

    Buried.
  • wherearemymeds, on 10/04/2008, -4/+15buried.
  • jimchap, on 10/04/2008, -4/+14buried for stupidity
  • goforbroke, on 10/04/2008, -9/+2Welcome to all the DailyKOS folks glad to see you all know how to follow marching orders. Please feel free to bury it allows us to calculate the skew on the polls.
  • AWBoy666, on 10/04/2008, -9/+2From the TOS:

    "By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree not to use the Services:

    # with the intention of artificially inflating or altering the 'digg count', blog count, comments, or any other Digg service, including by way of creating separate user accounts for the purpose of artificially altering Digg's services; giving or receiving money or other remuneration in exchange for votes; or participating in any other organized effort that in any way artificially alters the results of Digg's services"

    According to my correspondence with Digg management, that last sentence means you can't shout for burials. Eat it :P
    • sharpfork, on 10/05/2008, -0/+1someone call the wambulance...

      PS- McCain is gonna lose.
  • AWBoy666, on 10/04/2008, -8/+2Me: Could you please clarify for me if shouting a story for the purposes of burying it (IE: "Bury this!") is against the TOS? Thank you!

    Digg: We would need to see specific examples but on the surface, yes it violates our Terms of Service (digg.com/tos).

    Enjoy!
  • jimchap, on 10/04/2008, -3/+11how bout buried for stupidity?
    Is that in the rules?
  • MediaWeasel, on 10/04/2008, -6/+4Wow tracygav's post hit a raw nerve ;-)
  • imaginos91, on 10/04/2008, -2/+8Why would anyone give any credit to anything said by a website of Austria? See the WHOIS info below. They have nothing to do with us. They are on the other side of the world. And anyone who would give their malarkey any credibility has to be a fool. And 'goforbroke', the original poster, must also be a fool to post anything from a country such as Austria.

    Come on people, if you are going to attempt spreading malicious unfounded lies, at least get them from a source which will outwardly appear credible.

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