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- mauleriscool, on 10/03/2008, -195/+29Biden owned Palin in the butt on myspace in the butt
- richbleak, on 10/03/2008, -2/+48wtf?
- TunaFishGangsta, on 10/03/2008, -7/+18what what in the butt
- Danby123, on 10/03/2008, -3/+16wat
- TunaFishGangsta, on 10/03/2008, -13/+9what what in the butt
- divrekku, on 10/03/2008, -0/+6@ Tuna:
Its funny once. But only once.
- gravityPersists, on 10/03/2008, -5/+13Obama owned McCain in the butt on myspace in the butt too!
- aznpwnzor, on 10/03/2008, -2/+6lolwut
- Zlorp, on 10/03/2008, -0/+38Hai guyz! im a Maverick ;D
- EpicSelekta, on 10/03/2008, -5/+3Speaking of Mavericks getting it up the butt, have you seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyN8VN4BSzM
- EpicSelekta, on 10/03/2008, -5/+3Speaking of Mavericks getting it up the butt, have you seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyN8VN4BSzM
- AnalJustice, on 10/03/2008, -10/+5troll
- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -2/+4your space is in the butt, and Biden owned Palin in it?
pics or it didn't happen - RSMiller, on 10/03/2008, -0/+6What what in your butt?
- samard2002, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4I get the joke, Mauler. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? myspace! in the butt!
- AriaStar, on 10/03/2008, -2/+3PLEASE tell me you're not old. PLEASE tell me you're not actually old enough to vote...!
- mauleriscool, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4of course I'll be voting for Obama
- southeastbeast, on 10/03/2008, -3/+1What what in the butt?
- MikeDirntRulez, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2For those who are confused:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqoBQ4nP2VE
- richbleak, on 10/03/2008, -2/+48wtf?
- snuggletummy, on 10/03/2008, -16/+181She has been told to stick to a simple story. If she sticks to it people might not see past that.
- Neiby, on 10/03/2008, -6/+102She's superb when she is prepared and is allowed to stay within a small box. But get her outside of that box into areas she isn't prepared for, she wilts and starts making ***** up. It's embarrassing.
- richbleak, on 10/03/2008, -1/+86I respectfully disagree with the assertion that she was superb at any point.
- jeffkee, on 10/03/2008, -0/+27Well, superb at reiterating what her campaign advisors had her memorize.
- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -0/+21I'm sorry if I'm not going to answer the question that the moderator asked...
Actually scratch that, I'm not sorry at all - yacks, on 10/03/2008, -1/+23@Mujokan: Here's the quote you are referring to.. ;)
"I'm still on the tax thing because I want to correct you on that again. And I want to let you know what I did as a mayor and as a governor. And I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also." - Palin on a rebuttal against Biden when he brought up McCain's "plan" to deregulate teh Health Care system like the Banking industry has been deregulated.
I think talking straight to the American people is a great idea.... in public speeches... and in debates as long as what you are talking about is germane to the question at hand. There's a reason why debates have a moderator.. - Spuy767, on 10/03/2008, -20/+6Palin [random insult here]. Obama [hyperbolic praise].
I can has diggs? - bhamss, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Superb in a beauty pageant Q&A kinda way. Yea I see what you are saying. I mean lets face it the bar was set so ***** low for her to really fail she would have had to whip her jugs out or something(which could conceivably be a win). I wonder if that was an option her handlers gave her if things were really starting to go bad??
- davidrools, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2I wonder what happens when she goes into a big box store. She must feel completely overwhelmed with all those big boxes.
- Samsauce, on 10/03/2008, -4/+8Matt Drugde: Winner is.......
http://www.drudgereport.com/- bjornski, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3This headline made me LOL.
"Sandra Bernhard denies issuing Sarah Palin 'gang rape' warning..."
- bjornski, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3This headline made me LOL.
- toetagger, on 10/03/2008, -2/+7At 330AM CDT:
Sarah Palin 37%
Joe Biden 63%
Total Voters:153864 - aquafire, on 10/03/2008, -8/+1I think the real story is that Palin got into the 30s and 40s when everyone expected her to tank. And that's on the Internet polls, which are biased toward Democrats at the outset. Digg me down if you know I'm right.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7Is that because republicans fear computers? I mean, surely their "net-nanny" software lets them go to Fox's website...
- enki25, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4Yes it is shocking how many people will vote in favor of a VP candidate whose two main selling points are that she's attractive and that she speaks in generalities.
- Quinpool, on 10/03/2008, -1/+0Also, she should stick to a simple story, also.
- Neiby, on 10/03/2008, -6/+102She's superb when she is prepared and is allowed to stay within a small box. But get her outside of that box into areas she isn't prepared for, she wilts and starts making ***** up. It's embarrassing.
- woofer1125, on 10/03/2008, -38/+444anyone else think palin is a tool.
cuz i do.- larsone86, on 10/03/2008, -2/+44gimmick 2008
- Treadstone801, on 10/03/2008, -41/+4
- Azerael, on 10/03/2008, -0/+16no u r
- CoryTrevor, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4I'm rubber, you're glue :P
- lamiaconfitor, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2Odd how quick you were to judge that, so I dub thee: "Ironic Clicheman."
- lostarchitect, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1no, it really doesn't.
- blaze99, on 10/03/2008, -4/+12palin, is bush 2.0
- pr0phet491, on 10/03/2008, -2/+21palin, is bush 0.5
- DangerCollie, on 10/03/2008, -1/+7Cheney 2.0
I could see those no-bid government contracts going to the first dude. And Wassilla gets picked as the new home of the 82nd Airborne. - hagfish70, on 10/03/2008, -1/+6Or as I like to say, Bush with a bush.
- lostarchitect, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1you don't know whether she has a bush or not...
- Amazetbm, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Palin is Quayle 2.0
- mushtakrakish, on 10/03/2008, -1/+9no, i think she has represented her self in a clear, concise, intelligent, non-tool manner.
/***** sarcasm - bubba9999, on 10/03/2008, -1/+5A very sexy cookie baking tool that reminds me of the movie Fargo every time she speaks...
- MysticSavage, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1She is Audrey Hepburn to John McCain's Rex Harrison.
- megamod, on 10/03/2008, -0/+10I think anyone that said Palin won the debate is a tool...it's still impressive that even a bunch of Faux news viewers which would already have a blind bias towards Palin realized that Biden won. Maybe the debate started to remove the Faux news blindfold.
- nycmac247, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4dont insult them I love that band
- abbywilson9, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4October 3, 2008
Sarah Palin is sitting on the largest oil reserve in the world. That's why she was the perfect pick. All that oil and Hillary voters.
McCain may have stooped lower that George W. Bush if that could be possible.
People asked me if I thought that Barack Obama could be the Anti Christ. I said, "Oh no because George W. Bush has to have a monopoly on that one."
Oil and Hillary voters is the only reason Sarah Palin was chosen.
Abby- mrraven200, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1And don't forget the fundie nutcases who think the earth is 6000 years old and humans co-existed with dinosaurs and trilobites. WTF!!!!???? A junior high student with a "Golden Guide" to fossils knows more than that. It SCARES me that she is more ignorant than many 10 year olds. :(
- abbywilson9, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3With those Republicans it's always oil.
Abby - finalcloud33, on 10/03/2008, -2/+2***** slut to be exact
- Kakumeikeahi, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3She's been a tool since day 1.
- Jade10145, on 10/03/2008, -1/+1Yes I think she is a complete tool, more so a turd sandwich
Yet Biden is quite the douche bag himself....Check his stance on Internet issues.
http://gizmodo.com/5041044/vp-candidate-biden-is-n ...
- v12kid, on 10/03/2008, -28/+300she was simply pathetic, same ol' dodging the questions, not answering directly etc etc
Biden for the win!- larsone86, on 10/03/2008, -0/+24Anyone who votes for McCain because of Palin can't do it on substantive grounds, that's for sure. It's possible that one could make a half assed case for voting for McCain because of his real differences in policy, but Palin is pure fluff and razzle dazzle with a folksy twist. Of course anyone voting purely for palin has probably already called American idol to do it.
- patho, on 10/03/2008, -2/+2if I want an erection while watching politics, so what?
- BossKey, on 10/03/2008, -1/+28I have a question. Palin stated that McCain "knows how to win a war." Will someone please state which war it was that we won while he was participating in it?
I'm not questioning whether McCain was an honorable veteran; he is one. I just want to know what war Palin was talking about.- thegrantman, on 10/03/2008, -1/+14I laughed out loud when I heard her say that.
Vietnam wasn't exactly what you'd call a win. - frygar, on 10/03/2008, -1/+12McCain knows how to crash jets and get captured by the enemy. That's the kind of leadership our armed forces needs! /facepalm
- NeptuneZen, on 10/03/2008, -9/+2Vietnam wasn't a win but it came close to quote wikipedia:
"On March 15, 1973, U.S. President Richard Nixon implied that the U.S. would intervene militarily if the communist side violated the ceasefire.[125] Public and congressional reaction to Nixon's trial balloon was unfavorable and in April Nixon appointed Graham Martin as U.S. ambassador to Vietnam. Martin was a second stringer compared to previous U.S. ambassadors and his appointment was an early signal that Washington had given up on Vietnam.[125] During his confirmation hearings in June 1973, Secretary of Defense James R. Schlesinger stated that he would recommend resumption of U.S. bombing in North Vietnam if North Vietnam launched a major offensive against South Vietnam. On June 4, 1973, the U.S. Senate passed the Case-Church Amendment to prohibit such intervention."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Exit_of_t ...
Nixon won Vietnam and the democrats tossed it away on politics. This is exactly what we don't need in Iraq. We don't need some democrat to come into office and pull out all our troops, and when there is a huge bloodbath of secretarian violence to blame it all on Bush. Have you ever asked yourself why most of our military is republican? We know first hand all of the mistakes made by the democratic party in fighting wars. We also understand that the government does nothing efficiently. This is why we vote for republicans we want a smaller government and a strong military, and we want someone with a backbone to run it. - lostarchitect, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3I can only assume they mean the 1st gulf war? He was in the senate at that time.. But calling Vietnam a win would be really laughable.
- thegrantman, on 10/03/2008, -1/+14I laughed out loud when I heard her say that.
- Reynardine, on 10/03/2008, -0/+10The best that BBC could say about Palin was that she proved more competent than Tina Fey's parody. No, really. Her "strongest moments" purportedly came from making emotional appeals rather than answering questions:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7649888.stm - rento, on 10/03/2008, -4/+5I was underwhelmed at Biden performance. This woman was allowed to rebuild her image while Biden should have said exactly what she is worth.
What is wrong with the Dems able to put a compelling argument only outside debates?
If I would have been on that podium I would have told that she is not a keen mother by charging women for rape kits, denying violated teenagers a morning after pill even if the bastard was her father, letting her own state being savaged by crystal meth and taking 500mil of taxpayers money.
And what about her political knowledge Biden only questioned her on Iraq and she gave a fits-all answer which rimed with "I have no clue" but that was it. Biden was hitting McCain but the subject of the matter there was Palin.
WTF I am disappointed he still won but allowed Palin to rebuild her image on a highly visible stage, this should have never happened. Ignorant people and believe you me there are lots in US have seen this and probably thanking the redneck god for Palin.
*seriously pissed*- thegrantman, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3Biden was told not to be condescending towards her.The campaign managers didn't want him to appear as if he was picking on her.I think it was the wrong decision.
- SammyJr, on 10/03/2008, -0/+6I agree with your questions, but they might have backfired.
If Biden was too hard on her, it might bring out the sympathy vote. You know, the big bad old man coming down on hard on the mother of 5. Some people, for whatever reason, identify with Palin and they might feel that Biden was coming down on them as well. - daimposter, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1although Biden failed to to take full advantage of Palin's mistakes and inexperience, i wouldn't say he lost. He still easily won the debate by actually providing detailed answers to most questions unlike Palin who sidesteps some questions by using her skills with rhetoric. He could have done more damaged but it's a fine rope to walk as expressed by sammyjr
- poprocksandsoda, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1You are living in denial.
- larsone86, on 10/03/2008, -0/+24Anyone who votes for McCain because of Palin can't do it on substantive grounds, that's for sure. It's possible that one could make a half assed case for voting for McCain because of his real differences in policy, but Palin is pure fluff and razzle dazzle with a folksy twist. Of course anyone voting purely for palin has probably already called American idol to do it.
- doiveo, on 10/03/2008, -9/+30Link to poll?
- jackspayed, on 10/03/2008, -2/+43http://elections.foxnews.com/
2/3rds the way down - not sure how long it'll last though...
currently 58/42 biden- cedarbaydave, on 10/03/2008, -1/+29It is at 60% for Biden now. :-)
The other 40% scare me a bit though. - doiveo, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7Thank you!
- CVL4317, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4oh *****, 4 hours ago , it's 60-70% on palin
- noahgelman, on 10/03/2008, -0/+14Biden: 61%
Palin: 39%
Thats what it is when I voted just now - benplaut, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7B: 62
P: 38
Keep it up! - OpaqueMurdock, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3I just got
Biden: 62%
Palin: 38% - donosaurr, on 10/03/2008, -0/+368%
- heystoopid, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5I get
Biden 64%
Palin 36%
total votes 159,704 - ryogahibiki, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4Biden at 63%.
Fox is hacking the vote! - LawJik, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4Friday morning, 9:30 EST.
Biden 60%
Palin 40%
Total Voters:199496 - nicc, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2as of 2pm EST,
Biden 57
Palin 43
275,842 votes - tab11pitt, on 10/03/2008, -0/+13:28pm EST
Palin 45%
Biden 55%
302,774 Votes - KingGorilla, on 10/03/2008, -0/+12:58pm PST
wtf
53% Biden
Total Voters:337737
COME ON DIGG! WE CAN DO THIS
- cedarbaydave, on 10/03/2008, -1/+29It is at 60% for Biden now. :-)
- Marker809, on 10/03/2008, -2/+259/42 Biden @ 10:40AM EST
- MtheoryX, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3Funny, that's certainly not what Fox News was saying last night after the debate. They simply insisted, and had the poll numbers to back, that Palin won.
Although, every other news stations said that Biden won.
I guess that's Fox being all fair and balanced...and by "balanced," I really mean right-wing nuts. - godofpumpkins, on 10/03/2008, -2/+3what saddens me is how many people think she won... :/
- jackspayed, on 10/03/2008, -2/+43http://elections.foxnews.com/
- brainscab, on 10/03/2008, -20/+58Tell the drudge poll who won the debate:
http://www.drudgereport.com/- dagnabbit, on 10/03/2008, -13/+86***** Drudge, he's a right wing tool. Right now the poll says 76% for Palin. Big surprise.
- mbonzo531, on 10/03/2008, -10/+70How do people look at that site... pathetic designs like that belong in 1996.
- supermutt, on 10/03/2008, -6/+70It's for people that don't like change.
- benplaut, on 10/03/2008, -5/+6http://www.instantrimshot.com/
Spot on! - lifeisahighway, on 10/03/2008, -6/+9Drudge is a maverick, just look at his history of doing mavericky things.
- markgl, on 10/03/2008, -7/+2yeah i guess thats why he's a millionaire because if it.
- mbraynard, on 10/03/2008, -4/+5It is a design that puts efficiency above clutter.
Here's how a fruit like you can better understand it - just think of it as 'retro.' - ItsAllVerbatim, on 10/03/2008, -3/+2Digg (style) over substance (Drudge).
Kind of like this election (Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin) - mbonzo531, on 10/04/2008, -0/+1@mbraynard: efficiency? I can't find *****. I don't care if its conservative or liberal or about ***** my mother. Design = efficiency and this design blows. I'm the one saying it should change into something practical, they're the ones being "retro".
- masterkenobi, on 10/03/2008, -7/+45Hah! That's like going to a fat camp and asking if ice cream is better than rice cakes.
- marketsnipers, on 10/03/2008, -11/+4
- mbonzo531, on 10/03/2008, -5/+14Better question is how did they get 200,000+ votes in 4 hours after the debate. Pretty sure that ***** was hacked.
- heystoopid, on 10/03/2008, -2/+4they get spammed a lot
- ninjacob, on 10/03/2008, -11/+4You all are clueless.
- ditka354, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3Because all the readers are conservatives.
- Tichondrius74, on 10/03/2008, -5/+15Is that link to a picture of ***** or is that supposed to be a website?
- MtheoryX, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1One and the same in this case.
- friz, on 10/03/2008, -6/+9Uhh I voted for Biden to see if it would change and guess what, when I refreshed it didn't show jack. I don't even believe the authenticity of his poll numbers.
- Synkedam, on 10/03/2008, -8/+3Yeah. I think it is scripted.
I refreshed the site in a span of ~15 minutes.
The poll numbers refreshed each 2 mins and here are the results:
193 votes more
194 votes more
231
233
251
245
223
260
So 1830 votes in what.. 15 minutes?
According to alexa, this site has 3000 visitors per day. Sounds fishy. - ninjacob, on 10/03/2008, -1/+10I'm fairly certain that drudge gets more than 3000 visitors per HOUR
- Synkedam, on 10/03/2008, -8/+3Yeah. I think it is scripted.
- Olfster, on 10/03/2008, -5/+12What a mess... 1997 wants their website back.
- lamiaconfitor, on 10/03/2008, -3/+5The "polling data" on the drudge site is taken exclusively from individuals who go to the site. And Ill be damned if anyone with any sense whatsoever goes to the drudge report.
- silverbulletky, on 10/03/2008, -3/+18Haha that's like going to The Huffington Post for news... oh wait
- asurroca, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2Nonsense, the Huffington Post is better-designed. Wait, are we still talking about Drudge Report's awful design?....
- HereticKings, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4Haha that's like going to Digg for news... oh wait
/fixed
- VigRoco, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3Its a POLL, why should we tell other people what to think?
- ldailey06, on 10/03/2008, -3/+4Why does fox news even have a web site? People in their 70s don't use the internet.
- seldon21, on 10/03/2008, -3/+2So anyone looked at the voting logic? Seems like for ever vote I cast for Biden, Palin gets 3. Interesting....Also clear your cache/cookies and vote again if you didn't like the results.
- MtheoryX, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1"Also clear your cache/cookies and vote again if you didn't like the results."
I'm pretty sure that's what all the readers have been doing anyway. - seldon21, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Sarcasm is lost on the old and crazy or the young and stupid.
- MtheoryX, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1"Also clear your cache/cookies and vote again if you didn't like the results."
- Infidelcastr0, on 10/03/2008, -1/+5And... it didn't count my vote, big surprise.
Drudge Report LOL, a perfect example of what happens when Republicans attempt web design. - peter3118, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1The Drudgereport is a right-wing blog...so what do you expect? Of course it is going to be biased in favor of Palin. That is like going to michaelmoore.com and being surprised to find that a democrat/moderate/progressive candidate won a poll on his site. This is why it is best to go a mainstream/centrist site (Neither right-wing like Drudgereport nor left leaning/progressive like michaelmoore.com.) like cnn.com or cbsnews.com for a truly accurate reflection of the mainstream public view.
- masterkenobi, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1And CNN shows that Biden won the debate. Users gave him a grade B, while Palin received a D.
- solstice21, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3When I voted I noticed it registered 1 vote for Biden and 2 votes for Palin
for serious - Jonez176, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1LMAO. Google "drudge report wiki". The cached result says:
"The Drudge Report is a CONSERVATIVE, [2] [3] U.S.-based news aggregation website run by Matthew Nathan Drudge."
Someone made a mistake on Wikipedia and omitted the "conservative." Who are they fooling?
- Dipsomaniac, on 10/03/2008, -7/+31Well, the poll agrees with other polls - but it's really not dependable. I am surprised to see that on Fox, though.
- bhamss, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1Even Fox viewers realize now that it is a ***** gimmick
- intro211, on 10/04/2008, -0/+1it s a trap
- brianjlowry, on 10/03/2008, -11/+87What's really hilarious is that it is "broken" now:
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq295/brianjlow ...- facelesscoward, on 10/03/2008, -2/+21I think you just got it at a bad time. It worked for me.
http://elections.foxnews.com/- brianjlowry, on 10/03/2008, -0/+23Sorry about that.
:: takes off tinfoil hat ::
- brianjlowry, on 10/03/2008, -0/+23Sorry about that.
- scheibs14, on 10/03/2008, -2/+6Yeah works here. Up to 61 - 39 now
- koick, on 10/03/2008, -3/+3Just slightly not obvious; you have to first click on a name, then click 'vote'.
- brianjlowry, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2As you can see, I highlighted Joe Biden and the clicked 'vote'.
- tendonut, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1Or just click "View Results"
- Olfster, on 10/03/2008, -4/+1?
- TheLastFreeMan, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1No it happened to me when I kept refreshing and voting. It'll be fine after 24hrs.
- DeviateSeptum, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3Get a real OS, hippie.
- brianjlowry, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1I dual boot Linux. Don't call me a hippie until you know the facts.
- facelesscoward, on 10/03/2008, -2/+21I think you just got it at a bad time. It worked for me.
- gelato822, on 10/03/2008, -4/+54Well doggonnit!! Would ya look at that!
- Veok, on 10/03/2008, -7/+155"now THAT'S a bridge to nowhere"
- myshoeshurt, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3hahaha...
- normlsparky, on 10/03/2008, -1/+13that was probably his best line in the debate. i wish he wouldn't have gone so easy on her. he probably had a lot more lines like that, but wouldn't use them for fear of sounding sexist or some such crap. you can bet your ass that the republicans wouldn't have gone easy on hillary if she had won the primaries. the democrats need to borrow a spine from someone. i'm tired of their pansy image.
- bemenaker, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1He did fine, had he actually debated her like the job demands, the right would have cried and screamed and said "You're being too hard on her". Not that the job needs someone with thick skin, nor would they defend someone like Hillary from that kind of attack. But hey, it's Caribou Barbie.
- mrseptic, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1I think Biden should be applauded for his restraint. Annihilating Palin could've resulted in sympathy for her and perhaps even a backlash on Biden. I'm glad he came off intelligent and not condescending.
- generalchaos316, on 10/03/2008, -0/+16I got up and cheered on that one. Since I was already up...I got a few more beers. I need to stop playing political drinking games where the rules are to drink for every minute that Palin is not answering the question.
- chadsmith729, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3I played "I hear the word Alaska or Governor I drink" ... I was toasted by the end of it.
- Bravesguy18, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2I drank every time I saw her back teeth when she fake smiled.
- jlungu, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1I drank every time the word "Maverick" was used ... passed out in 30 minutes.
- MtheoryX, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1I took a shot everytime someone said "fundamental."
FFS, I was ***** 10 minutes into the debate.
- daimposter, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1i think the line was 'now that's the ULTIMATE bridge to no where'
classic.
- oblique63, on 10/03/2008, -5/+43well, duh, it's not hard to beat your opponent in a debate, when they don't even answer the right questions...
- WayneCA, on 10/03/2008, -9/+245Sarah Palin says "nuc-u-ler" like Bush says "nuc-u-ler". It's NUCLEAR!
- 22catches, on 10/03/2008, -2/+36In her speech to the Republican convention it was spelt "new-clear" in her script so that she didn't sound like Bush.
- lamiaconfitor, on 10/03/2008, -21/+5spelled... when correcting ignorant rednecks on their grammar, it is important not to confuse verbs for nouns.
- mrigns, on 10/03/2008, -1/+19You actually spell it "spelt" in the UK and probably also in Australia where he comes from.
- gcnaddict, on 10/03/2008, -0/+14It's a sad day when there are more non-Americans who care more about this election than we do.
- Bravesguy18, on 10/03/2008, -5/+2When trying to be a douche, it is important not to confuse the meaning of a homonym.
- thedragon4453, on 10/03/2008, -1/+21I don't know if I can take another 4 years of having a president (or VP for that matter) that can't say nuclear correctly.
- IllBeBack, on 10/03/2008, -1/+22She's pronouncing it this way completely purposefully.
She also says "Eye Rack" and "Eye Ran" to pronounce Iraq and Iran to align with how military people pronounce it (incorrectly).
This is simply appealing to the republican base. - HangerBaby, on 10/03/2008, -3/+23She also says "yer dern right"
bitch.- eklife, on 10/03/2008, -1/+0lol. True
- jester17, on 10/04/2008, -0/+1Dey took err jerrrrbs!!!
- cslawren, on 10/03/2008, -1/+5I noticed this too! It's driven me nuts for the past 7 1/2 years, we can't let it happen for the next 4.
- mbraynard, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2You're just going to have to get over that. Most people pronounce some words incorrectly and it's not a sign of ignorance.
I can't naturally pronounce the word 'water' correctly. Why? Because my mom can't pronounce it right and her mom couldn't, et cetera.
It doesn't mean I'm stupid. - alarmist, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3you're stupid
- mbraynard, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2You're just going to have to get over that. Most people pronounce some words incorrectly and it's not a sign of ignorance.
- TSK05, on 10/03/2008, -7/+6Voting: because the most important issue of our day is how a VP candidate pronounces a word.
- DarthKozy, on 10/03/2008, -3/+2Well, if McCain/Palin get into the White House there is a very REAL possibility that ***** will go so far south that nukes might end up being used.
i'd hate to spend the last few seconds of my existence correcting some idiot...
"no it's not a nuke-U-ler bomb that's heading at us it's a new-CLEAR bomb" - TSK05, on 10/03/2008, -2/+3.... Are you just pretending to be an idiot? "***** might go so far south that we end up using nukes" - well in that case, I'm sure it'll be real important how she pronounces the word, right?
- evodude, on 10/03/2008, -2/+1Saying nucular implies a lack of understanding of even the simplest principles of the bomb. If you know that the bomb works by splitting the nucleus of an atom, then you'll know that anyone who says nucular is moron. Being that even vaguely knowing how the most powerful weapon in existence works is an important part of making a rational, informed decision on it's use, I would say that using the proper pronunciation is kind of a big deal.
- DarthKozy, on 10/03/2008, -2/+2TSK05 wrote:
".... Are you just pretending to be an idiot? "***** might go so far south that we end up using nukes" - well in that case, I'm sure it'll be real important how she pronounces the word, right?"
First of all, I didn't say WE end up using nukes - I said nukes might end up being used - BIG difference.
Yeah, I'm only pretending to be an idiot - what's your excuse? - PolishLogic, on 10/03/2008, -2/+2"First of all, I didn't say WE end up using nukes - I said nukes might end up being used - BIG difference."
Because that can only happen if McCain is in the White House? Seriously WTF is that about?
You might as well make an asinine claim like "when Obama is sworn in, all the world's enemies will lay down their guns and embrace each other with love".
@evodude
Much like pronouncing it to-mah-to rather than to-may-to implies a lack of understanding of even the simplest principles of food and nutrition. Pronunciation has no bearing on anything. If that was the case, people in New England don't understand the concept of a car, or a yard.
Apparently some people love nitpicking.
- DarthKozy, on 10/03/2008, -3/+2Well, if McCain/Palin get into the White House there is a very REAL possibility that ***** will go so far south that nukes might end up being used.
- evodude, on 10/03/2008, -3/+4Whatever. Everyone knows that nuclear bombs work by splitting the nuculus of the atom, so nucular is clearly the proper pronunciation.
What you got to say to that, you librul sumbitch?- DarthKozy, on 10/03/2008, -2/+4only that it's "nucleus" - you goose-steppin' asshat
just for you...
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s5 ... - evodude, on 10/03/2008, -1/+5I can't tell if you're the idiot for not picking up on the sarcasm in my post, or if I'm the idiot for not picking up on sarcasm that may be in your post. I'm pretty sure that one of us is being an idiot, though.
- bemenaker, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2You both win for the wonderful sarcasm, I'll volunteer to be the idiot on this one. :D
WTF it's friday and I need a drink - DarthKozy, on 10/03/2008, -2/+4@ evodude -
oops! both of us should have used - /sarcasm tags in our posts! I was 100% sure that you were being a smart-ass and i basically "republicaned" your post.
- DarthKozy, on 10/03/2008, -2/+4only that it's "nucleus" - you goose-steppin' asshat
- PolishLogic, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3So is it po-tay-to or po-tah-to.
I'm guessing it's probably difficult for you to figure out what a person is talking about when they say nuc-u-lar weapons.- huggybarrel, on 10/03/2008, -2/+1i think it's potatoe, so says Dan Quayle
- mkameli, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5"Nuc-u-ler, Lisa. It's pronounced 'nuc-u-ler.'"
- Peynis, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1I think what they've been saying was "nukecular", a mixture of "nuke" and "spectacular".
- MtheoryX, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1nuketacular?
- linuxpenguin, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3You know, it's funny but often times I hear the very same people who make fun of Bush for pronouncing it that way. . . saying "nucular". I don't usually say anything about it, but there's a lot of people who say it that way without even realizing it.
- daimposter, on 10/03/2008, -1/+1"You cant say nuclear, that really scares me
Sometimes a brain can... come in quite handy" - brettalton, on 10/12/2008, -0/+1Damn metathesis: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nuclear?r=7 ...
- 22catches, on 10/03/2008, -2/+36In her speech to the Republican convention it was spelt "new-clear" in her script so that she didn't sound like Bush.
- lynchjos, on 10/03/2008, -5/+26
kept expecting to see one of those pull cords for talking dolls.- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -0/+6From Slate's Cartoonbox:
http://content.cartoonbox.slate.com/?feature=7541a ... - thegrantman, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3There was one but it it turned out to be a umbilical cord.
- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -0/+6From Slate's Cartoonbox:
- 5celery, on 10/03/2008, -6/+43Good job Biden!
- kefkaantakrist, on 10/03/2008, -1/+0Wake Up People! This is just the latest dirty trick by the GOP! Mark my words, a few days before the election McCain will run an ad quoting all the agencies who said Biden beat Palin and say, "Do we really want a Vice President who beats women?"
- lynchjos, on 10/03/2008, -4/+93VOTE HERE
http://elections.foxnews.com/- Observer001, on 10/03/2008, -0/+13Hm. I wonder what the odds are they'll say a dangerous hacker group, anon maybe, hijacked the polls and tried to defeat freedom and America(but were stopped by brave Fox techs who took the poll down)?
That's helpful data. Thanks, lynchjos. - dimplemonkey, on 10/03/2008, -8/+2So more liberals go to foxnews for their perspective or more liberals stuff other network's ballot boxes or more people like to criticize than debate the debate?!
- joebaloney, on 10/03/2008, -3/+1Why?
- getbusyliving, on 10/03/2008, -0/+9Makes me feel kinda dirty visiting Fox News.
- Fragalishus, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3Unfortunately, a poll on their website won't really help much. Right after the debate I flipped over to Fox and they had poll numbers something along the lines of +80% Palin - 12% Biden. Obviously people who actually watch Fox News will believe those numbers regardless where they came from (see: out of their ass).
- bitsculptor, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1That was a poll of Palin's immediate family.
- futebollounge, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4my vote alone changed it to 56%-44% :)
- Observer001, on 10/03/2008, -0/+13Hm. I wonder what the odds are they'll say a dangerous hacker group, anon maybe, hijacked the polls and tried to defeat freedom and America(but were stopped by brave Fox techs who took the poll down)?
- blyrehs, on 10/03/2008, -4/+34I saw Biden's yes widen when she said something about the constitution and expanding vp power in senate? I didn't have it recorded so I couldn't go back and listen to it.
- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -1/+20She wants to expand VP powers further, and she thinks the worst mistake Cheney ever made was owning that old lawyer with a quail gun.
So that's comforting. - bainfu, on 10/03/2008, -40/+3My eyes widened when Biden said the powers of the President and VP were defined in Article I of the Constitution. For someone being so critical he should at least get the Article correct.
- siekosunfire, on 10/03/2008, -0/+28The powers of the Vice President with respect to the Legislative Branch are defined in Article 1:
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A1Sec3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_Un ... - Narrwald, on 10/03/2008, -0/+8You have to be correct to make impressive witty remarks, bainfu.
- mrseptic, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1"You have to be correct to make impressive witty remarks, bainfu."
ha ha ha burn
- siekosunfire, on 10/03/2008, -0/+28The powers of the Vice President with respect to the Legislative Branch are defined in Article 1:
- Lythium, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1Transcript:
http://www.debates.org/pages/debtrans.html - ragley, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-877820358 ...
- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -1/+20She wants to expand VP powers further, and she thinks the worst mistake Cheney ever made was owning that old lawyer with a quail gun.
- tabularassa, on 10/03/2008, -10/+128Mrs Sentence to Nowhere
- betheturtle, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1I believe that at one point she stopped saying sentences and phrases and started just saying words.
- Me0wmix, on 10/03/2008, -6/+11Ahaha, that's so unexpected.
- johnskiddles, on 10/03/2008, -8/+9I don't believe it, astonishing absolutely astonishing.
- avataros, on 10/03/2008, -6/+29Unscientific poll, but strangely in line with the snap polling figures announced by CNN and CBS.
Spin: It was a MORAL victory for Sarah Palin. - JazminMillion, on 10/03/2008, -17/+38Palin is an idiot! 100% unadulterated, grade A FOOL!
- algaeturd, on 10/03/2008, -6/+163"I just wanna say we're freedom lovers and darnit, we love freedoms. Terrorists hate our freedoms and that's why were'a gonna stay on top of this situation, dontcha know!"
What a genius.
/s
Does anyone else feel like she creates a labyrinth with her sentences that just start nowhere, go in circles and end back up nowhere? It used to be called rhetoric but I'll be damned if she hasn't raised it to a ***** sad art form of dizzying proportions.- IllBeBack, on 10/03/2008, -0/+28She carefully and in a calculated manner peppers her speech with folksy colloquialisms to attempt to align herself with "Joe Six Pack."
She also purposefully pronounces words such as "nuclear" incorrectly for the same reason.
This is the same reason that George W. Bush affects an artificial Southern accent.
These politicians recognize fully that a large number of Americans are simply stupid people, and they are going to leverage that in these ways in order to be elected.
Don'tcha know? - Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -1/+13Ah, say it ain’t so, Joe. There you go again, pointing backwards again, though.
(Note: If you want to use this zinger, you have to make a big deal out of asking whether you can call the guy Joe, otherwise the liberal media elites might say you were being disrespectful.)- algaeturd, on 10/03/2008, -0/+10I didn't realize it until now but the 'can I call you Joe' thing was nothing more than a setup to toss the zinger. Good catch. I hope Olbermann figures that out because he mentioned tonight that she asked if she could call him Joe and then didn't even call him Joe all night.
- JigoroKano, on 10/03/2008, -0/+12I think she is a robot programmed to say stupid ***** at just the right intonations to resonate with idiots.
- bemenaker, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1mmm tasty fembots
- chadsmith729, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5I didn't see a green dot on the back of her head, so maybe she didn't have the speaker in her helmet of hair like I thought she would have. Can you imagine though that if it was Hillary up there? She would have just unhinged her jaw and ate that woman whole. It would have been pretty darned entertaining to watch.
Don'tcha know? - bubblz, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1You should copywrite that last part there, that's gold.
- EvoMR05, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4I was really surprised after the debate everyone thought Palin did well?!!! Her speech has no content, has no weight, it had no figures, no proofs to back up her debates. Nothing demostrates that she has the knowledge and experience to run for VP, maybe a to cheer a crowd of "Joes Six Packs". But we Americans are smarter than that.
And I was damn sick of her smiles at the camera, I see no difference between a "cute smile" than Paris Hilton saying "that's hot".
What a total waste of time! - lewystud, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3she still can't do it like Bill Clinton can
- yeahaboutthat, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5So, which terrorists that hate freedom was she referring to? Islamic nut jobs, or those currently running the white house, because I'm pretty damn sure they hate our freedoms to--at least they've made it their business to remove or reduce as many of them as they could since 9/11
- RipleyIsDead, on 10/05/2008, -0/+1Just to save you the embarrassment of one day being corrected by a "brainy" neo-con... the correct word is "too" - "...they hate our freedoms, too."
- yeahaboutthat, on 12/11/2008, -0/+1Thanks, RipleyIsDead
- IllBeBack, on 10/03/2008, -0/+28She carefully and in a calculated manner peppers her speech with folksy colloquialisms to attempt to align herself with "Joe Six Pack."
- sulthernao, on 10/03/2008, -5/+42 CBS NEWS/KNOWLEDGE NETWORKS POLL (Uncommitted Voters who watched the debate):
46% of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Joe Biden was the winner. 21% thought Sarah Palin won, 33% thought it was a draw… 98% after the debate saw [Biden] as knowledgeable (79% before the debate).
CNN's poll of all debate watchers, MoE 4%:
Who did the best job in the debate?
Biden 51
Palin 36- thedragon4453, on 10/03/2008, -0/+15I'm a little afraid that 54% didn't see a clear victory for Biden. Watching the damn thing was painful. Palin didn't answer any of the questions at all, while Biden demonstrated clear knowledge. When Palin was attempting an answer, it was all "hockey moms", "joe six pack", "maverick", "create american jobs", and on and on.
The fact that 54% don't see a clear win for Biden is proof that 54% of Americans are easily swayed by rhetoric and not by facts. Of course, the last 8 years or so shows that as well.- nedzeve, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7I can see how mothers of hockey players self-identify as "hockey moms", but who self-identifies as "joe sixpack"? I thought her comment was condescending.
- hanielperigueux, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3A-MEN. I share your worry.
- thedragon4453, on 10/03/2008, -0/+15I'm a little afraid that 54% didn't see a clear victory for Biden. Watching the damn thing was painful. Palin didn't answer any of the questions at all, while Biden demonstrated clear knowledge. When Palin was attempting an answer, it was all "hockey moms", "joe six pack", "maverick", "create american jobs", and on and on.
- audomatix, on 10/03/2008, -8/+61She tried to pull that bs act again but Biden was on target. He actually for real choked up talking about his kids. And that line that he said, "The Past is Prologue." ***** Brilliant.
- NocturnalLee, on 12/08/2008, -2/+28I thought that was a great line, too. I think it went over her head, though.
- monkiboi, on 10/03/2008, -2/+17You can take the "I think" out of your sentence.
- MeaCulpaBandB, on 10/03/2008, -2/+6he surprised me with that. I didnt know that he was a single parent, too. I bet a lot of average americans didnt either. I think she tried to impress all the single moms, but Joe had something on that too - sad, but at least he showed that he's been a single parent too and can understand the trubles
- sfanetti, on 10/03/2008, -0/+19I thought that was a good line until my mom said "what does prologue mean?". To the stupids, Palin won. To anyone with half a brain Joe Biden mopped the floor with her.
- NocturnalLee, on 12/08/2008, -2/+28I thought that was a great line, too. I think it went over her head, though.
- Disturbedsavio, on 10/03/2008, -7/+59NEITHER OF THEM SUPPORTS GAY MARRIAGE X(
- Gemfinder, on 10/03/2008, -3/+41I agree, it's sad to hear that Biden was against it but keep in mind he's staunchly Catholic. And if past history is anything to go by, I'm sure the Mother Church is getting ready to do a Kerry on him, "Denounce abortion or we'll deny you the sacraments." Not defending it...I'd love to see the GLBT community get their deserved rights...and I'm not even gay.
But, the Obama/Biden side is definitely more hospitable towards gay marriage than McCain/Palin would be.
Hang tight, keep the faith, it'll happen. My generation thought the Berlin Wall was there forever and peregrine falcons would go extinct before the century was out.- johnnr2, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5Already have denied him sacraments in Philly (prior to his showing up).
- hanielperigueux, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2I totally concur, and it cannot be stressed enough how different these admins would be on the issue.
- MrTea, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7What they need to do at the official (govt.) level is take the whole religious aspect out of the whole thing by calling it a civil union and let couples and their friends call it whatever they want at the social level.
- chadsmith729, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Very well said. Arguably one of the best comments on this entire page.
- pavanb500, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7Another thing..he clearly outlined how they should have rights and such, but she carefully worded her answer..the only part she said she agreed with was the lack of marriage part.
Additionally, even though I don't even think I can name a single homosexual friend/co-worker (I lived in Iowa...diversity vacuum), it still annoyed me that she used the word "Tolerate" many times on the issue...basically implying that she'll put up with it because she has to.. Than and she's a slunt.
- OrdinaryPanda, on 10/03/2008, -5/+77Government should never be in the business of marriage. Marriage is a title of a union bestowed by a church. Everyone should be getting "Union Certificates" from their local gov't, and getting MARRIED at their church. If a gay couple can find a church willing to marry them, that is their prerogative, IMO.
- sugarazor, on 10/03/2008, -0/+20Fine with me, then we need to eliminate all forms of the word "marriage" from government. If gay people have to call what they do in their bedroom a "civil union," then so does everyone else.
- kinseyincanada, on 10/03/2008, -0/+13well fine then tell your damn government to make civil unions legal then.
- chaosblade77, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5I thought Civil Unions did allow for homosexual couples, at least in some states? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else, but a guy I know brought up a point about how very few gays actually care to see "Gay Marriage" legalized, since a non-religious alternative already exists.
It was a while back though, so I don't remember the details. - sugarazor, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4A couple states allow civil unions, but the contract is void if they move to another state. So if you're married in Massachusetts and your spouse is hospitalized in Kentucky, you can't visit them.
- sindex, on 10/03/2008, -1/+6Yet another reason to never go to Kentucky.
- whahaa, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1IT'S JUST A WORD
noun.
1.
a. The legal union of two people in a romantic relationship.
b. The state of being married; wedlock.
c. A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage.
2. A wedding.
3. A close union of two objects or concepts.
does anyone see anything even remotely relating to any religion in there????? - inkswamp, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3> Marriage is a title of a union bestowed by a church
Really? You mean you can get legally married without ever involving the government at all? I've never heard about this. Care to elaborate? - bdit1200, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1Marriage is over-rated. I tried it once. ...take the civil unions.
- jdmCrush, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Do you really think it's the job of religion to say weather or not two people who love each other can get married?
Seriously... - mnemy, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1Excuse me, but I will not get "Married" in a church because I am not religious. And I will be "Married" because that is what this society calls a commitment to be with your significant other for the rest of your life.
Saying marriage is a religious term is retarded and extremely close minded. Gays should be allowed to "marry" as well. Does it somehow devalue your "marriage" when same sex couples have the same title? If it does, you're extremely self-centered and a bad person.
- algaeturd, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4Well, neither does Fox News.
- soot, on 10/03/2008, -3/+20Technically, "marriage" is not the federal government's business to tamper with at all.
What they can do, and what Obama and Biden want to do is to strengthen civil union laws so that gay couples can recieve the same benefits of and be seen the same way in the eye of the law as married couples. But marriage in itself is a construct of institutions such as the church, and not of the state.. - Berkana, on 10/03/2008, -1/+20As far as I could tell, Biden was for granting gay couples visitation, property, and inheritance rights, but wasn't for calling it "marriage." If the rights are there, whether people call it marriage or not is really inconsequential for any gay couple who takes part in civil unions.
- Velnich, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7A civil union is better then nothing, but there's no good reason not to call it a marriage if you are going to take it that far. Best solution is to leave civil unions to the government to be offered to gay and straight couples and for "marriages", people can seek their houses of faith.
- AppleMacStud, on 10/03/2008, -33/+3Thank God. That is a good thing. Two men swapping fluids is gross in every sense of the word.
- BoSuu, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7I find it a bit gross as well, but that doesn't mean I don't support gay marriage.
- AppleMacStud, on 10/03/2008, -14/+2LOL. So you find that smearing sh*t across your face is gross but that doesn't mean you would object to using it as tooth paste?
Wow, you can't make this stuff up. ^__^ - fadeddragon, on 10/03/2008, -1/+1No he means hes not an intolerant *****.
- plhearn, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3Wow what a horrible analogy. No reason gay people shouldn't be able to get married. Not like its gonna make a difference about whether they do gay stuff or not. You're just a homophobe.
- SilentRamble42, on 10/03/2008, -1/+1I love that I just got to report AppleMacStud twice.
- AppleMacStud, on 10/04/2008, -1/+1Good luck with that one sweet cheeks. I've been reported hundreds of times. ^__^
Oh and by the way... you're blocked. :)
- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -2/+17No-one who supports gay marriage will get within spitting distance of the White House.
I know, I tried. My case comes up in six weeks.- BoSuu, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4sadly you are right :(
- AppleMacStud, on 10/03/2008, -23/+1That's good to hear. I hope you and the other sodomites fail every time. :)
- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -0/+3lol
Supporting gay marriage doesn't make you an inhabitant of Sodom, or even of Gomorrah.
If you don't like it, you should support gay marriage. I think most of us have found that once you get married the sex drops off something frightful.
- NecroDigg, on 10/03/2008, -23/+6Neither do I. ***** *****
- BoSuu, on 10/03/2008, -1/+4Dugg for impressive trolling skillz.
- Asheis, on 10/03/2008, -2/+4I get it! you're playing the "lets see how many negative diggs I can get for being insensitive" game! AWESOME.
- VanishingLex, on 10/03/2008, -3/+2An excerpt from the digg terms of service section 5:
"By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree not to use the Services:" ...
... "2. to post or transmit, or cause to be posted or transmitted, any Content that is infringing, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, abusive, offensive, profane, or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party; "
NecroDigg reported. - NecroDigg, on 10/04/2008, -1/+1@VanishingLex, in that case I reported you for infringing on my right to have an opinion.
- VanishingLex, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1I didn't infringe your right to have an opinion. You don't however have the right to express an offensive comment on somebody elses website where the terms prohibit it. Unless you run digg that is....
- nedzeve, on 10/03/2008, -1/+1At least they don't admit it they support it. On the other hand, neither of them admit to being homophobic.
- yacks, on 10/03/2008, -1/+7Actually read the transcript of the debate.. Biden is not for gay marriage in terms of the government regulating it and does not think the government has any say in it..
BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. ***We do not support that. That is basically the decision to be able to be able to be left to faiths and people who practice their faiths the determination what you call it.*****
The bottom line though is, and I'm glad to hear the governor, ***I take her at her word, obviously, that she think there should be no civil rights distinction, none whatsoever, between a committed gay couple and a committed heterosexual couple. If that's the case, we really don't have a difference.***
Palin rebuttal
IFILL: Is that what your said?
PALIN: Your question to him was whether he supported gay marriage and my answer is the same as his and it is that I do not.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/debate.tran ... - inkswamp, on 10/03/2008, -1/+1Be careful about judging politicians for what they say during debates. They sometimes have to parse their words to a ridiculous degree, and during presidential elections especially, a candidate must be cautious not to say anything that will chase away potential voters from the other party. I'm certain that Obama and Biden are both far more open to the concept of gay marriage/rights than McCain and Palin, but he's not going to be too emphatic about that when he knows that Republicans are watching the debates and many are looking to vote against more of Bush's policies. The last thing he wants to do is scare them off by appearing too liberal on that issue especially.
- jacquesm, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2yes, because of course you want the voters no matter what your stance is ?
Come on, grow some backbone and get a principle (or two). Democracy is all about stating your views and then getting people to vote for you because of your views. Excessive parsing of your words may increase the vote by a bit but it really makes the word-parsers look like they would do anything to get voted in to office, especially twist about their stance on subjects.
There ought to be a law against that. - inkswamp, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1> Come on, grow some backbone and get a principle (or two).
Not sure why you're attacking me for that. I have plenty of principle, thank you very much, but what I described is sadly part of the political process, for better or worse. And much of the blame shouldn't be put at the feet of the politicians, but rather at the feet of the fickle public who *will* judge a candidate primarily for one or two statements they don't like instead of looking at the details and trying to understand their policies and positions. Why attack me or some word-mincing candidate when it's largely caused by a batch of voters out there waiting to pounce on the wrong thing said about gays or abortion or guns? I agree it's ***** stupid, but there's a lot of people out there doing it and politicians have to deal with it.
- jacquesm, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2yes, because of course you want the voters no matter what your stance is ?
- abbywilson9, on 10/03/2008, -0/+0October 3, 2008
That's OK babe a bunch of us do. Marry whomever you want to marry.
We surely have more things to worry about right now than a "Who's Who" of getting married.
Peace,
Abby- Slade605, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Dear Abby,
The war is harsh and James Smithers lost his leg to a land mine yesterday. Please send more cookies, the guys and I love them.
Love Johnny.
- Slade605, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Dear Abby,
- ChinezePanda, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1They even said it themselves.
Their religious views do not reflect the constitution of the united states nor would it influence it.
Peoples personal choice is their own choice.
It is why we separate church and state - dalnet22, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Marriage is defined in religious context as man and woman. That will never change. What could change is the legal contract binding two people together being separated from matrimony. Allow marriage and legal contracts.
- harajukukei, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2marriage is a church thing.. its not the government's business to say who can and can't be "married". As long as everyone is given the same rights, gay people can only argue with the church. All of us, gay or straight should be recognized legally as a civil union when we decide on a life partner. The idea of "marriage" should be uniquely a church matter, and have no bearing on us from a legal standpoint.
- jacquesm, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3I've been married, never saw a church on the inside. I think you're wrong.
- jdmCrush, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2It's a political thing. McCain clearly is against it, but if Obama/Biden was for gay marriage, it would loose them the race- it's not a battle worth fighting for them. Sad, but true.
- Gemfinder, on 10/03/2008, -3/+41I agree, it's sad to hear that Biden was against it but keep in mind he's staunchly Catholic. And if past history is anything to go by, I'm sure the Mother Church is getting ready to do a Kerry on him, "Denounce abortion or we'll deny you the sacraments." Not defending it...I'd love to see the GLBT community get their deserved rights...and I'm not even gay.
- magoghm, on 10/03/2008, -3/+38Sarah Palin: "It is a crisis. It's a toxic mess, really, on Main Street that's affecting Wall Street. And now we have to be ever vigilant and also making sure that credit markets don't seize up. That's where the Main Streeters like me, that's where we would really feel the effects."
A toxic mess on Main Street that's affecting Wall Street? That explains why the taxpayers should bail out Wall Street :)- OrdinaryPanda, on 10/03/2008, -0/+11I noticed that little jujitsu flip on responsibility for this mess. The banks made the rules and lobbied for playing this close to a fiscal cliff, not "Main Street" folk.
- algaeturd, on 10/03/2008, -0/+16I wondered why I didn't see anyone taking her to task over that. Even it was a slip of the tongue, most likely a Freudian slip.
She's just a middle class millionaire like all of us, dont'cha know?
She sits down to dinner at the table with her family and worries about healthcare.
Even
though
she's worth
a million
*****
dollars.
plus.- hanielperigueux, on 10/03/2008, -0/+8AND DON'T FORGET
She DEDUCTS her living expenses...excuse me, more accurately she charges them as a per diem.
She's a phony and a poser and an insult to women everywhere.
- hanielperigueux, on 10/03/2008, -0/+8AND DON'T FORGET
- financedude2, on 10/03/2008, -2/+1Just like McCain kept saying he'd increase the tax dividend (he meant deduction, supposedly.) He said it at least twice as well as referring to it as the "child divident", which ought to be dependent as it can apply to those who aren't children as well. This lack of comprehension in even the basic tax law makes me believe that this ticket (because it's obvious Palin doesn't know anything except for energy rhetoric) lacks any financial knowledge. I lost a lot of money this year. The Republican party won't get my vote this year.
- Ultage, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4Shes a ***** millionaire! Main street my ass...
- wendelgee2, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4The fact is, her sentences are a vomited stew of buzz words. Anyone actually trying to parse them will find ALLLL sorts of contradictions, errors, and non sequiturs. But that's not how it works. The buzzwords tap into a pre-existing narrative, so we think we understand what she's saying, when in fact she's said nothing at all.
It's a hell of a racket, really.
- UltramegaOK, on 10/03/2008, -3/+16"Sorry, there was an error in retrieving your results."
This is worst than that time Homer Simpson tried to vote for Obama........- silent7seven, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1I gave Palin an F on cnn's report card thing. It says undefined on all the reports, but thankfully submit my grade: A??
- badwithcomputer, on 10/03/2008, -10/+6....surely you jest.
- Rezistik, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1/s?
- betheturtle, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2I'm not jesting. And don't call me Shirley.
- SethEllis, on 10/03/2008, -3/+32I thought we all already agreed back when Ron Paul was still around that online polls like this are complete BS.
- meirav, on 10/03/2008, -0/+11Yes, they're very unscientific and very easy to manipulate.
- weside, on 10/03/2008, -2/+21Unless the poll currently favors Digg's choices ;)
- unfromcool, on 10/03/2008, -2/+3Ha ha so true!
- zmjone2992, on 10/03/2008, -0/+9Dude we own online polls.
- DiggityDugged, on 10/03/2008, -2/+8Yeah, places like 4chan definitely ruin their authenticity, but what's scary is that, despite heavy foulplay by 4chan, the MSNBC poll tonight remained the same. Biden was at 52% of the poll votes for well over an hour of foulplay. Are there really that many Palin supporters out there to cancel them out? Scary.
And while I'm on the topic -- I highly dislike how MSNBC's poll has 4 options -- Biden, Palin, Neither, Tie. I'm sure tomorrow they'll just mention Biden winning with 52% of the vote, not mentioning that Palin only had 38%, not the implied 48%. So misleading.- financedude2, on 10/03/2008, -4/+1How does Neither and Tie equate to a Palin vote? That's not misleading, only the fact that it's not an accurate scientific poll because of the sampling method.
- swrostmore, on 10/03/2008, -2/+12Culture war ***** isn't going to fly in 2008, even on Fox News
- liquisoft, on 10/03/2008, -4/+19When Fox News willingly reports figures that favor a non-republican, the ***** has hit the fan.
- NocturnalLee, on 12/08/2008, -7/+9This is great! If Fox viewers, arguably the most closed-minded, bigoted, and uniformed people out there, can see that Palin's not quite ready for prime-time, maybe there's hope for this country, yet.
- Treadstone801, on 10/03/2008, -10/+6
- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -2/+7If the slogan of HuffPo was "Fair and Balanced" I might digg you up.
- sfanetti, on 10/03/2008, -3/+2Yeah - I would say most Huffpo readers are honest, objective, and well informed. There is a difference between being willfully and unapologetically ignorant of core issues - like FoxNews viewers - and being well informed and curious about other points of view - like Huffpo readers.
- unfromcool, on 10/03/2008, -0/+6Careful now...Fox and Fox News are two different entities. Otherwise you just insulted a bunch of House fans and should apologize!!
- NocturnalLee, on 12/08/2008, -0/+3Excuse me. I meant Fox News viewers.
- Treadstone801, on 10/03/2008, -10/+6
- gravityPersists, on 10/03/2008, -13/+142STOP WINKING AT ME YOU SNOTTY *****!
- IllBeBack, on 10/03/2008, -40/+5Yeah bitch, just shut up and swallow my cum.
- hanielperigueux, on 10/03/2008, -1/+9YIKES!!!!
- RobGilpatric, on 10/03/2008, -0/+7So annoying! Palin's winking really irritated my wife. "Why does she keep doing that?"
- MediaCrisis, on 10/03/2008, -0/+6Sorry, jeez.
- bemenaker, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2She wasn't winking at you, she was winking at me
- Hyst3ria, on 10/03/2008, -5/+1761/39 Biden at the minute. I cannot see how anyone could possibly have voted for Palin.
- newms32, on 10/03/2008, -1/+8That's because you don't have fetal alcohol syndrome.
- Bologner, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5Say it with me:
Fox. News. - tbpsparow, on 10/03/2008, -1/+6Cause she's hawt.
- minorgods, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1She had me at "Can I call you Joe?"
(cause coach said I always say Senator Obiden)
- AZRoboto, on 10/03/2008, -3/+49Please say someone else caught that Joe Biden called out Cheney's misinterpretation of the Vice Presidency during the debate.
Go Biden!- HencheMann, on 10/03/2008, -0/+20"THE MOST DANGEROUS INTERPRETATION OF THE OFFICE OF VICE PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY!"
Not verbatim, but pretty damn close. Joltin' Joe all the way! - wendelgee2, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5and Palin wanted "flexibility" because she had NO IDEA what the question meant.
- paintgrl, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1That was my favorite part. Joe nailed it.
- HencheMann, on 10/03/2008, -0/+20"THE MOST DANGEROUS INTERPRETATION OF THE OFFICE OF VICE PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY!"
- eLuugy, on 10/03/2008, -3/+14Does it really matter, Fox News will tweak that online poll in no time.
- HansFriedman, on 10/03/2008, -7/+3Really? Its still about 60 to 40 for Biden, guess you cant say Fox isnt Fair and Balanced anymore.
- brstilson, on 10/03/2008, -1/+6Actually, what Fox does when a poll doesn't show the results they want is to heavily stress that it is not a scientific poll and has absolutely no validity whatsoever. Of course that leads to the question of why even have a poll in the first place if it's not going to represent real-life, but I suspect the average viewer of Fox News doesn't think that far.
- bjornski, on 10/03/2008, -1/+7It will be reported tomorrow as a stunning victory for Palin by Hannity, Hume, Cavuto and the "Fox Friends".
- bleh19799791, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2LOL I watched the Hannity show after the debates to get his SPIN on it and they were circle jerking on Palins STYLE, and telling it how it is and saying how Biden looked like he was sleeping? WTF, he looked pretty animated. That jack-off cherub faced guy they always let on the show to shake the Repub Pom Poms called Colmes an idiot and berated him for offering another view of the debate. Freedom of speech is not welcome if Sean Hannity. cherub man or O'Reily have any chance to yell at them.
- CVL4317, on 10/03/2008, -4/+7oh fck....
4 hours ago, Palin was leading with 60-70% on that pool - iamsmooth, on 10/03/2008, -1/+8This is kinda surprising, seeing as how there's so much hype over Palin and how stupid and hot she is :o
- HencheMann, on 10/03/2008, -2/+11C'mon. This is Fox local news in Detroit. Obama already has the state wrapped up. McCain's campaign is already pulling out and minimizing their efforts there.
- irishjays, on 10/03/2008, -2/+5Fox News Detroit, polling populous is a little blue there I think.
- MikeMitchell, on 10/03/2008, -0/+9i thought that too, but thats actually poorly cropped, and its actually just a link on foxnews.com
check it out!
http://elections.foxnews.com/- Protoss, on 10/03/2008, -0/+4Thanks for pointing that out. My first thought was that it wasn't actually Fox NEWS.
- MikeMitchell, on 10/03/2008, -0/+9i thought that too, but thats actually poorly cropped, and its actually just a link on foxnews.com
- binky79, on 10/03/2008, -18/+7Ok it would be funny if it were actually true.
Buried as inaccurate.- BoSuu, on 10/03/2008, -1/+7I am confused. I am looking at a large majority of people in the poll supporting Biden. That being said, online polls about who won the debate have to be taken with a grain of salt.
- binky79, on 10/03/2008, -4/+2I support Biden as well. It is inaccurate because the title would lead you to believe that THE Fox news national poll is leaning toward Biden. Not some affiliate station. It's all in the phrasing. The title and description say "The" Fox news poll, not "A" Fox news poll.
- OpaqueMurdock, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5http://elections.foxnews.com/
As near as I can tell, its on the main site. The "detroit" button you see I think links to a blog on an affiliate site. its the "question of the day" so it may be gone soon and I think thats why the submitter took a screen shot.
- binky79, on 10/03/2008, -0/+12Go ahead and digg me down. I just went to http://elections.foxnews.com/ and sure enough at the bottom of the page the poll shows Biden ahead. I was so sure the Faux news channel would be leaning so far up McCain/Palins ass that it never even occurred to me that this could be accurate. My apologies to you BoSuu and to fjf314 for burying your story. Kill Me. No Funeral.
- Mujokan, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1I like funerals.
- OpaqueMurdock, on 10/03/2008, -1/+5Man, no thanks for the guy that (politely) pointed out to you that you were in error? In this day and age someone not raking you over the coals is kinda rare, and yet... no love.
Just kidding ya, It was an easy mistake to make imo. : ) - VanishingLex, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1Dugg this for the upstanding decency to admit the mistake.
- OpaqueMurdock, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1I concur Lex. blinky is one cool customer in my book. If I just stay in this thread I can almost pretend I am not on digg due to the civility bubble here. heh
- BoSuu, on 10/03/2008, -1/+7I am confused. I am looking at a large majority of people in the poll supporting Biden. That being said, online polls about who won the debate have to be taken with a grain of salt.
- civilizedevil, on 10/03/2008, -3/+16An internet poll with results in favor of a Democrat... not as shocking as you think.
- firelion, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1yeup especially considering there were several posts last night right after the debate on 4chan with people showing out to automate voting for that poll.
- Gutterpunk, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1Yeah, and there wasn't 10 article on Free Republic telling people to go click on every pool out there yesterday evening.
- DrummerAndrew, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1Fox News.
- firelion, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1yeup especially considering there were several posts last night right after the debate on 4chan with people showing out to automate voting for that poll.
- DiggityDugged, on 10/03/2008, -2/+3One of two things about this poll is true. When the votes came in so fast, it gave an error screen popup to users, but only for votes for Biden. So . . .
A) Either SO many people were voting for Biden, that Fox's servers couldn't handle it, and some votes were lost. Or . . .
B) They rigged the servers so that people would vote for Palin.
I'm leaning heavily towards A), but it's sad when a supposedly reputable mainstream media site has such crappy servers that they can't even run a roll. MSNBC's poll has over 500,000 votes so far, whereas Fox only has over 100,000. Fox should be ashamed, they deserve their small readership.- powatom, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Since when was Fox News EVER 'supposedly reputable'?
Frankly I'd be amazed if they DIDN'T skew the poll.
- powatom, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Since when was Fox News EVER 'supposedly reputable'?
- Nintendesert, on 10/03/2008, -7/+32I'm surprised that Ron Paul didn't win the debate.
- BoSuu, on 10/03/2008, -0/+5When digg/4chan are spamming the website polls I have to agree with ya here.
- Proctor, on 10/03/2008, -4/+13Ron Paul did win that debate.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 10/03/2008, -3/+3Hardly a surprise. Everyone is wanting his advice now.
- hisean99, on 10/03/2008, -18/+3This isn't even Fox News. It's a local Fox station..
- MikeMitchell, on 10/03/2008, -0/+11no its not, check it: http://elections.foxnews.com/
its just a poorly cropped picture. The Detroit thing is a link.
- MikeMitchell, on 10/03/2008, -0/+11no its not, check it: http://elections.foxnews.com/
- myguitarisaweap, on 10/03/2008, -3/+11If you refresh that page you could vote as many times as you'd like and it's not at all a valid representation of people's opinions considering she overwhelming won the text message poll on FOX by over 80%.
- ErrorF002, on 10/03/2008, -1/+8So she win's the American Idol vote.... We're dooooooooooooooomed!
/sob
- ErrorF002, on 10/03/2008, -1/+8So she win's the American Idol vote.... We're dooooooooooooooomed!
- HencheMann, on 10/03/2008, -4/+21Biden was solid on issues and hitting McCain. SOLID! Palin was sparkly, shiny without any substance. I think I got a cavity just listening to her, she was so sweet. I thought she did well in that regard. I was not embarrassed for her like I was during the Couric interviews. Joe did great, holding back, not eviscerating her, sticking to THE ISSUES. He was first class all the way.
...but imagine...him losing his family like that when he first became a senator many years ago...that is some rough, honest stuff right there.- chadsmith729, on 10/03/2008, -2/+1We were watching ABC and they had some analysts on there and they said that Biden said McCains name 65(or something like that) times and Palin said Obama's 18 times.
- runCMD, on 10/03/2008, -2/+1So you think "Palin was sparkly, shiny without any substance."
funny - exact same thing is being said about- Funpolice2050, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2McCain.
- runCMD, on 10/03/2008, -1/+1and the survey says
X - insert annoying buzzer sound
wrong answer try again or step aside. : ) Thanks for playing! - MtheoryX, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1candlejack? oh-shi
- mcalica, on 10/03/2008, -8/+36Of course Biden won...how could ANYONE see otherwise? Jesus, how many times could she bring up energy? Biden really impressed me...answered and followed the question with intelligent facts, while Palin looked like she was following some kind of script prepared beforehand. I looked on the Drudgereport and saw that Biden actually was voted as the loser...are people really that dumb? That makes me ashamed to be American. Well, if Palin gets elected not only would she be the first woman VP, she would be the first Mentally Challenged VP as well...
- brstilson, on 10/03/2008, -3/+6Two words: Dan Quayle
- bemenaker, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1ding ding ding, we have a winner, gutter tell 'em what they've won
- runCMD, on 10/03/2008, -5/+1mcalica - you were sold on Biden before the debate began. So you post is more pats on your own back ... : ) nice. And rude comments are the norm for Obama supporters now. How does that happen ? ... Doesn't bode well.
- mbraynard, on 10/03/2008, -1/+1It's easy to sound good when you have no compunctions about telling lies like Biden did. I mean - he did literally say no more coal power for the United States and that there is no such thing as clean coal.
- peter3118, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1The Drudgereport is a right-wing blog...so what do you expect? That is like going to michaelmoore.com and being surprised to find that democrat/moderate/progressive candidate won a poll on his site.
- brstilson, on 10/03/2008, -3/+6Two words: Dan Quayle
- IllBeBack, on 10/03/2008, -15/+11Are we counting local Fox affiliates as being "Fox News" now?
I don't think so. But I agree that Biden won, only because Sarah Palin is such a ***** stupid moron.
Every time she said "new cue lur" for "nuclear", thousands of my brain cells died.- Alienkid, on 10/03/2008, -1/+2On twitter Leo Laporte predicted that she would say "New cue lur"
- suburbanWMD, on 10/03/2008, -1/+3"Are we counting local Fox affiliates as being "Fox News" now?"
You're an idiot. http://elections.foxnews.com/
- Commodore84, on 10/03/2008, -10/+26I have a feeling moveon, HuffPo, Thinkprogress, Raw story, etc. sent out the link and asked people to vote, because she won the text message vote by over 80%.
- Digger1123, on 10/03/2008, -1/+5Exactly my point, and that was about 1,000,000 votes, not 42,000
- Asheis, on 10/03/2008, -1/+7Like American Idol!
By the way.. what text message vote?- kigcoopa84, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2CNN and MSNBC both had text message votes as well
- topsax, on 10/03/2008, -16/+5The media will not win this election. If anything the media will lose this election for Nobama. Until the fat lady sings there is not a damn thing the liberals or their BS polls can do about it. The more the media goes in the tank for the MEssiah the more the moderate Democrats, Independents, and Republican will turn out in force.
http://seeingright.com
latest article: Socialism under Barry Obama will be like a wonderful fantasy trip to the moon.. "make sure you strap a BIG pillow under your ass. It is going to be a BIG fall for his highness the BO."- HangerBaby, on 10/03/2008, -1/+5Fail, you just made your entire post about hating left-wingers without mentioning one think Barack is talking about doing. We now know where you are in regards to education and bias.
- FredFredrickson, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2If you want people to take you seriously, link to real news, and don't come up with stupid nicknames for people, alright?
- tehsilentcircus, on 10/03/2008, -0/+2Jesus, do they make you ***** in a factory? Blah blah blah. All you guys spit is ridiculous drivel and nonsense. Just stop talking.
- mrseptic, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1"Socialism under Barry Obama will be like a wonderful fantasy trip to the moon"
wtf? make sense.
- MtheoryX, on 10/03/2008, -0/+1Oh, you mean the text message vote on Fox News...where Fox News viewers vote on their phone right?
No way that result could be biased.
/s
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