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After being silenced by the media, Kucinich goes viral

politinks.com — Dennis Kucinich, in the wake of being banned from presidential debates on major networks, has decided to take his campaign viral (so to speak) by hiring a TV engineers to deliver his broadcasts to TV stations around the country.

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  • lostangelonline, on 01/14/2008, -8/+81Excellent idea! I like Kucinich more and more, as he doesn't give up to the establishment. If it wouldn't have been for RP, Kucinich would have my vote
    • surf314, on 01/14/2008, -3/+38I'm going to go ahead and rebut the comment that is going to go here and say that Kucinich and RP share many of the same beliefs on the constitution. They do differ dramatically in their philosophies of the best way to serve the people. Kucinich believes that it is part of the governments responsibility to try and solve problems that the country has. RP thinks its the peoples responsibility to solve their own problems and that government should get out of the way and let them do it. This is supposed to be what the party system is about and the discourse that for a long time has helped shape our country and our policies. However, now we see why some of the founding fathers warned against the party system as it is just turned into an us versus them fight with very little actual policies discussed openly. In this context it is easy to see why whoever will make the obvious comment here can't understand how someone can support a strong liberal AND a strong conservative.
      • bobburn, on 01/14/2008, -0/+11Well it depends on what you believe is the most pressing issue, if it's Iraq then you I can definitely see you supporting both. Ending the war on drugs? Again, both. Now when it comes to solving SS and medicare problems, then you've got some strong differences.
        • monkeyvoodoo, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5But most people, using SS and Medicare as examples, would be "okay" with either answer (RP or Kucinich (well, some people are wary of RP's answer to the health care problems, but would still be willing to give it a try, given the current situation)), regardless of their opinion on how they believe it SHOULD be done. What's not "okay" is the disgusting mess of programs we've got now that use a ***** of money and don't really accomplish anything they're supposed to (or at least not in a satisfactory manner).

          Fix the glaring problems with the current situation, and then maybe you'll see people arguing passionately about whether the government should help or not. As it stands, ANYTHING is better than what we have, and that's how I can see so many people supporting both RP and Kucinich.
          • intangible, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Don't worry about the leaky faucet while the house is burning down.
      • bitspace, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4This is the one thing that casts a light of skepticism over many Ron Paul supporters, but I guess the same can be said of any uninformed group of people. The only two issues that Paul and Kucinich come close to agreeing on are Iraq and the PATRIOT Act. On every single other issue they are diametrically opposed. If Iraq and the PATRIOT Act were the only issues on the table that would be fine, but they are not. There are lots of other very important issues as well: energy, immigration, education, gun laws, gay marriage, abortion rights - each of which has Paul and Kucinich at exact opposite ends of the spectrum.
        To make the statement of "if I didn't support Ron Paul, Kucinich would be my man!" seems absurd.
        • orxor, on 01/14/2008, -1/+3Well it depends how strongly you feel about the other issues, personally I like Ron Pauls approach to the economy which differs greatly from Kucinich. I think people should have the right to own a gun, gays should have the right to marry (by the way is this something that Kucinich opposes? 'cause I know Ron Paul believes that they should have the right to marry and call it marriage or whatever they want, however I don't know DK's stance but you say they have a difference of opinion which would be surprising) but those issues don't matter to me as much as restoring civil liberties and getting out of Iraq. I can tell you that if I wasn't voting for RP I'd probably vote for DK, the other republicans scare the hell out of me.
        • surf314, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3The point is that there are different ways of solving any given problem, just because two candidates have two very different ways of solving a given problem doesn't mean we can't like both. It just comes down to who's solution we thing would work better. People who like both, like both because they are bringing up problems no one wants to talk about and presenting solutions when everyone else just talks in empty rhetoric. It is completely reasonable to like both. And if you are looking for a candidate that agrees with you completely on every single issue than I'd be surprised if you ever got a chance to vote for anyone. Actually, maybe that's why most politicians are so vague.
        • ScrappyLaptop, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1DK has been a very strong supporter of GLBT equality, to the point of voting no on the ENDA bill since it effectively shot itself in the foot by the time it reaced a vote. Best way to judge a candidate is to review the voting record, not listen to their campain trail rhetoric...check out vote-smart.org
        • WarBiscuit, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5I don't think it's in any way absurd. There are a lot of people (liberal, libertainian, conservative) who believe the most important set of issues right now is repairing the damage done to the fundamental structure of our democracy:

          -weakening the executive branch
          -reeling in military spending
          -getting out of wars we shouldn't be in in the first place
          -protecting the consititution, and the checks and balances which it set up
          -making the government actually responsive to the will of it's constituents once again.

          All of this requires a candidate who actually respects the office they have been chosen for,
          rather than believing respect is due them as the one chosen (W, I'm talking about you).

          These are fundamental surival of our nation issues.
          Until they are fixed, everything else you listed are personal issues which do need debating,
          but if our country is rotting at the core, debating them is pointless as electing a captain while the ship is sinking.

          Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich themselves agree on this... they've worked together many times,
          such as the various impeachment papers, and have made a number of comments about their respect
          for the other person...

          Even though I disagree with many of their positions (Kucinich on guns, Paul on healthcare)
          I think either of them would be a far better choice for president than anyone else running.
          For anyone who disagrees with some of their policies: they're _just_ the president.
          Both candiates, if elected, would be fighting congress tooth and nail to get what they want done,
          just working on the problems which they agree on.

          it's stop-the-slide-into-oligarchy time, and we need someone who'll stop it.
          so make a choice: will you sit around and complain
          about RP/DK's healthcare policy, or stand up with We The People?
      • 30somethinDad, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1I don't understand how anyone can support any of the other treasonous candidates that will make the USA no longer exist.
        Idiot.
    • MaximusPryme, on 01/14/2008, -2/+21What are you talking about? Kucinich is closer to my view on politics than anyone else (other than Ron Paul). Yes, I am a libertarian but he's the only other candidate talking about renewing civil liberties and ending the war. So the best way of putting this would be, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Also, just because two people show different ideological views does not mean I cannot support him, befriend him, and like him.

      Yes, I prefer a strong conservative, but I also like hearing an honest person running for office, because Kucinich and Paul both have that very important characteristic I support them both. It is not as ridiculous as you claim.
      • surf314, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4I think you misunderstood me as you just remade the point I was trying to make. I meant that every time someone makes a comment like this someone always calls them stupid or crazy or both because they like people from two different parties.
      • MaximusPryme, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1Oh yea, sorry I did misread your comment.
    • orxor, on 01/14/2008, -2/+6Although they have similar views on civil liberties and the Iraq war they differ on just about everything else especially economics. I have to say that I like Ron Pauls approach more and after reading and listening to his speeches/lectures at the Mises Institute website I have to say that out of all the candidates he seems by far the most knowledgeable on the topic. I'd prefer not to receive government handouts if that means I will get taxed less in the process and I would prefer to keep my money rather than give it to the gov and receive a service which is worth far less than the value of the money I paid for it. But one thing that I can say about both of them is that without a doubt they have far more integrity than any of the other candidates.
    • SublimeRuin, on 01/14/2008, -4/+17How many RP supporters actually KNOW what he wants? If you look a little closer you may notice that most of his beliefs - while based in libertarianism are fundamental Christian fringing on being overtly conservative. A lot has been made of his calls to "give power back to the states" however in most cases his argument LEADS with that sentiment and finishes with very fundamental Christian/republican views (I.E. Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Anti-Immigration, etc...)

      I am not saying Ron Paul is a bad person - just saying that people should really research their candidates, the good AND the bad, BEFORE shouting their names from the rooftops.

      He is however - probably one of, if not the best REPUBLICAN candidate. Though in my opinion - the best candidates in the race are Kucinich and Obama - Democrats.
      • freshyill, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2But he's against the war!
      • dalaeth, on 01/14/2008, -1/+4That's exactly why I agree with him. I would rather have each state decide its position on these issues and decide where I want to live based on that rather than having all of these groups each fighting for influence over the federal government. I live in RI, which is a fairly liberal state. If the majority in [insert "red state" here] wants to pass some crazy ass laws then I say let them.. and stop forcing ME to abide by them.
        • SublimeRuin, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5Except the answer is NOT in "cleaning house" and getting rid of our national laws. The answer is in repealing those which encroach on our liberties already and knowing how to handle future situations. It is finding a happy medium. The government needs the people as much as the people need the government. National Laws or decrees are needed in some cases for the benefit of the many. In other cases those same laws restrict the freedom of those they are trying to protect and lead. Knowing the difference is what separates a regular man from a President. Is what separates a good leader from a dictator.
      • Pulch, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1I may not agree with RP's views on birth control or his religious stances, BUT RP isn't trying to force his views on anybody. The way he wants the country to work is by having local people decide what laws they want, and keep the fed out of it. He may be against abortion, but he won't make it federally legal, or illegal. Anything that gives the people more freedom and more privacy is fine with me.
        • SublimeRuin, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4Actually - by becoming president - forcing his views on people is exactly what he WOULD do. Anything he vetoes, supports, appoints or condemns will be based on his personal views.
    • gamebittk, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3Sorry for the comment abuse, but here's a mirror:
      Mirror: http://www.freewebs.com/geout/mirror.htm
    • llbbl, on 01/14/2008, -2/+3RP is best of the republicans and compared to GWB he is awesome ... but um yea republicans in general, epic fail.
      Make sure you vote for the right person. Don't be a paultard.com. At least do you homework if your going to act like a 5th grader on the interewebz.
      http://glassbooth.org/
      • edwartica, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2"compared to GWB he is awesome"
        No offense, but that's not saying much
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+2What Kucinich and Paul have in common might have a lot to do with why these two men have been friends for quite some time. You should listen to the MP3 audio interview that Alex Jones (a Ron Paul supporter) had with Dennis Kucinich fairly recently. It was awesome! If the Dem party was packed with public servants and candidates that share Dennis Kucinich's policies, and if the Rep party was packed with ones that share Ron Paul's policies, we might actually see some real and wise activity from the local and state levels, to the three government branches in Washington D.C.

      The partisans on both sides of the red and blue divide would drop a wet and heavy load in their undies if Kucinich and Paul teamed up. I think, their differences would only bring out the best in each man's ability to modify them enough where we can have winners without any losers among the True American Majority (the People), unless you want to count the fascists, plutocrats and their policies and agendas as the losers.

      Here's to our Revolution for real American freedom and democracy right here at home!
  • maninblac1, on 01/14/2008, -57/+2I like his message, but i hate him as a person. Kucinich is, and always has been (from older footage), an attention whore. I think it's a Napolean Complex.

    *knows the bury is coming*
    • rarson, on 01/14/2008, -1/+17Buried, I wouldn't want to disappoint you.
    • awtripp, on 01/14/2008, -1/+19yeah, well, good luck to the presidential candidate that's not an attention whore.
      • Terr01, on 01/14/2008, -2/+1But Mr. Whatisface has no name recognition.
  • rmd34, on 01/14/2008, -2/+58Info on the next debate: "The Nevada Democratic Party will partner with the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and IMPACTO, 100 Black Men of America, and the College of Southern Nevada to hold the second Democratic presidential debate in Las Vegas. The debate will be telecast live by MSNBC and held at the Cashman Center in Las Vegas on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 from 6:00 – 8:00 pm Pacific Standard Time." (Source, Nevada Democratic Party: http://tinyurl.com/2kf3rw )

    At Issue: "Less than 44 hours after NBC sent a congratulatory note and an invitation to Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich to participate in the Jan. 15 Democratic Presidential debate in Las Vegas, the network notified the campaign this morning it was changing it announced criteria, rescinding its invitation, and excluding Kucinich from the debate. (Source, Dennis4President.com: http://tinyurl.com/2njth9 )


    Contact information. Make your voice heard...

    MSNBC:
    212-664-4444 and ask for the Comment Line
    email NBC/MSNBC at letters@msnbc.com

    Nevada Democratic Party:
    http://www.nvdems.com/contact/
    (702) 737-8683

    Below are the sponsors of the debate (I couldn't find any info on IMPACTO).

    The U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce (large list of contacts):
    http://www.ushcc.com/contact.html

    100 Black Men of America:
    http://www.100blackmen.org/
    info@100bmoa.org
    404-688-5100
    404-688-1028

    The College of Southern Nevada:
    http://www.csn.edu/
    http://www.csn.edu/directory/index.asp (Contact Directory)

    Not sure who to directly contact at CSN. The directory provides department breakdowns and email addresses. If anyone knows someone that attends this college, please let them know what's going on here.

    It's time we stop letting the networks, the party and it's sponsors make decisions for us.
    • aukxsona, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3Thank you. Already boycott MSNBC
    • diggydougie, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2Re: It's time we stop letting the networks, the party and it's sponsors make decisions for us.
      Actually it's all about the parties. If you have a party you get to decide who participates. And the networks are private institutions who can say whatever they want (or not). Personally I think that we should ditch the party system altogether, and put everyone on the ballot, and let the voters decide all at once. All a party really is is a group of people who say "we like this guy". If you are not the party's choice you are free to run independently.
    • grav80bong, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5Here are the two emails I just sent to NBC. I encourage everyone to email NBC (maybe if he gets enough, Olbermann will address it on Countdown). This first one was sent to countdown@msnbc.com (Keith Olbermann’s program):

      Mr. Olbermann,

      As I’m sure you are aware, less than two days after NBC sent a congratulatory note and an invitation to Dennis Kucinich to participate in the Jan. 15 Democratic Presidential debate in Las Vegas, the network notified the campaign it was changing its announced criteria, rescinding its invitation, and excluding Kucinich from the debate.

      What are your thoughts on working for a company that would silence a dissenting voice such as Dennis Kucinich’s in such an arbitrary manner?

      ---------------
      This second email was sent to viewerservices@msnbc.com and GeneralComments@feedback.msnbc.com and titled “C/O Chuck Todd: Your Network’s Exclusion of Dennis Kucinich from the Jan. 15th Debate in Nevada” (Chuck Todd is the NBC political director):

      Dear Mr. Todd,

      NBC’s arbitrary decision to exclude Dennis Kucinich from Tuesday’s debate in Nevada shortly after having invited him based on cookie-cutter criteria is nothing short of a disgrace to our democracy. You operate on airwaves that belong to the American people and are supposed to be airing voices of dissent in order to broaden the political dialogue in the public interest. You are not supposed to be constricting the debate in the self-serving interests of your parent corporation nor the other Democratic (and Republican) candidates.

      I’ll be honest: The only program I ever watch on your airwaves (news or entertainment) is Countdown with Keith Olbermann. If you do not let Dennis Kucinich into Tuesday’s debate, I will no longer watch Countdown on television nor on MSNBC’s website just so I do not give you even one more hit on your website that enables you to charge your advertisers more money. I’ll do just fine catching pertinent ad-free clips of his show on various internet news sites.

      I will also inform everyone I know of how NBC (much like Fox News and ABC which excluded Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, respectively, from debates in New Hampshire last week) is working to stifle our democracy. And that by watching any of your programming on TV or the web they are contributing to increased ad-revenue for a media company on our airwaves that is not working in the public interest, but instead is working to increase the war-time profits of its parent company, GE.
  • Marty1h, on 01/14/2008, -1/+60The Founders of this great nation wanted impeachment to be used whenever the Constitution was threatened to keep government in line. Dennis is the only one with the courage to proceed.
    • Terr01, on 01/14/2008, -0/+7Before folks point out the scheduling issues, back in 1999 the Republicans were putting out a heck of a lot of claims that it was possible to impeach after a term ended, since the effects of impeachment include prohibiting further political office.

      371 days and 13 hours before Bush leaves office, barring "emergency measures".
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1I gave you a thumbs up, Marty1h, but I must add, Florida Congressman Wexler stepped out to the plate to contribute to our call for impeachment of Dick Cheney. Nevertheless, Dennis Kucinich is the first one that introduced this measure to the House. He's a patriot.
  • basic0, on 01/14/2008, -1/+11I'm finding that the time it's taking between a new internet buzzword or slang being invented, and the time that same word makes me shake my head every time I hear it, is drastically reducing all the time. "Viral" is annoying me way faster because it really seems like it's misapplied most of the time.

    Is anything that interests more than two people now considered "viral"? I'm not saying this is the case with Mr.Kucinich here, as far as I know he has lots of fans, but this doesn't sound "viral" to me. It sounds like a politician is using multiple mediums to reach the public, which isn't a new concept.
    • Terr01, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2I think the biggest thing about "Web 2.0" is you've basically got an economic resurgence rather than a technical one. Namely, the marketing droids.

      "Viral" is just another word for "get the fans to do the distribution work".
      • VitriolAndAngst, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Which, by definition, this means that the term "Viral" was correctly applied to Kucinich's video distribution -- however obnoxious it may be as a word.
        I think this is pretty smart. Most TV stations play the "infotainment" that PR firms use to promote products because it looks like news, and fills air time -- the station saves money, the public stays dumb as rocks, everyone's happy. So Kucinich can fill up that empty air time with a heaping helpin' of truth.
  • rarson, on 01/14/2008, -1/+18Do I ever wish him luck. I hope he is successful, because while I support another candidate (you know who), allowing a candidate a chance to speak is never a bad thing. Unless it's Giuliani.
    • EquesArdor, on 01/14/2008, -4/+3911911911911911911911911911911
    • orxor, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5Let 9iu11ani speak as much as he wants, the more he speaks the worse he comes off. If he just kept his mouth shut me might be getting more than 10% now.
    • MindStalker, on 01/14/2008, -0/+8On no.. Allowing Giuliani to speak has been a very good thing. People now know what he is about.
      BTW Have you seen his new commerical?
      He promises "Trillions" in tax cuts on his first day in office. Does he understand what he is saying? Completely impossible without ending our foreign policy and returning the feds to its constitutional mandates, neither of which he wants to do.

      He must be referring to Trillions over 10 years or something like that. I doubt he could pull the 100 billion+ a year required for that either.
  • kwansolo, on 01/14/2008, -1/+3how does this work?
  • Zandarrr, on 01/14/2008, -2/+34Kucinich '08!!!

    I love Dennis, he's adorable and a genius. He is the ONLY candidate that I actually want to elect. None of that "lesser of two evils" *****.
    • awtripp, on 01/14/2008, -0/+7I don't think "adorable" is a quality that needs to be on the top of anyone's list for pres candidates.
      • Ellipsys, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2Its right up there with "good looking", "cool", a "man of the people", or "just the guy you want to have a beer with". Sadly, there are people who vote pretty much by party and how cute the candidate is. Not saying the OP is one of these, but it is important to have a certain look about you whether it be a Regan-esc bravado, or a Carter-esc kind countenence.
    • MindStalker, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2You can have him.

      //I'll take his wife. Check please!!
    • aukxsona, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2Yes he is adorable
    • topide, on 01/14/2008, -2/+1He's an old bag with a hot wife.
  • MovieQuest, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0Mirror please. Either that or "Websense" isn't letting me see this article. Wouldn't be the first time.
    • gamebittk, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5Here's the summary from the article until the site gets back up:
      "Dennis Kucinich, in the wake of being banned from presidential debates on major networks, has decided to take his campaign viral (so to speak) by hiring TV engineers to deliver his broadcasts to TV stations around the country. The broadcasts will be delivered mostly in the Nevada area (for now). Kucinich will also be hosting live internet webcasts."
    • gamebittk, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2http://www.freewebs.com/geout/mirror.htm
  • CazMo, on 01/14/2008, -9/+5Kucinitch is great... I don't know if he'd make a good President though... I think he'd make a great VP. I kind of see him as the guy that has a lot of good ideas, but he occasionally throws the odd line in there where you're like.. "Uhhh.... i dunno about that one, Denny, maybe you should just go get us some coffees..."
    • aukxsona, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2But ya got to love those weird one lines! That's what makes him so neat!
    • keithburgun, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4CazMo, give me an example of such a line. I think you might be wrong.
    • CazMo, on 01/14/2008, -3/+1When asked about his UFO experience, he mentioned he wanted to move his presidential office to Roswell among other things. I have nothing against UFO sightings(and shame on the people for laughing at him when he admits to it), but i do have a problem with a presidential candidate worrying about issues that we cant hope to change right now(government mass cover-ups aside).
      • Terr01, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3"When asked about his UFO experience, he mentioned he wanted to move his presidential office to Roswell"

        Uh... Context? Joking? Source?
      • MonkCanatella, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1I agree with that, but I think he's more of a leader than any of the candidates out there, besides MIke Gravel. Those funky one liners are maybe the only thing he has done wrong, while the other candidates have shady dealings and whatnot that are far worse than being convinced one saw a UFO.
      • CazMo, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0It's true, and he was generally speaking about his UFO experience and the affect it had on him. Type "Kucinich UFO debate" and you'll see the youtube video there with what he said, if you see a clip without it just watch a longer version to hear his whole answer to the question. Search youtube
      • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1If he made that kind of remark, it was probably out of sarcasm aimed at the corporate media whore that didn't want the public to hear about Dennis Kucinich's patriotic and sincere background as a person and as a US House Representative. Like that cartoonish freak, Tim Russert, a pseudo-journalist working for a war contractor, whose only concern about Dennis was a statment Dennis made about seeing an object in the sky that he could not identify.

        We live in a country full of people that believe in God, angels, Heaven, Hell and so forth. In fact, our government has been packed with people that claim they believe in God. Yet, I've heard Atheists claim that anybody believing in God, angels, Heaven and Hell believe in, worship, and pry to a mythological figment of people's imagination. Imagine if our society was dominated by Atheists and Dennis said, "I believe in God." He might be treated like he's a bit off his rocker. Don't you think?
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4And Bush and Reagan believe in the apocalypse -- which believe system is more scary?
      This is a bit like the "Yeehaw" the media used to knock Howard Dean out of the running. You don't think "I'd make two GitMos" is a LOT nuttier than saying; "I think that I've seen a UFO."?
      • savagesteve13, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1GWB quotes: "You want some ribs? Let's get some ribs....hey you want ribs? I'm hungry, I want ribs"
        heard at a GWB re-election meet & greet...
        (Yes, a real quote, very presidential of him)
    • DodgeCity, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0hahahaha
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1If you exercised and performed your civic duty wisely and accurately, you would then know that Dennis does his utmost to be well-informed through the means of research, analysis of findings, being open to ideas for results, and weighing it all until he gets the answer. This is why Dennis Kucinich, unlike the other morons in the House and Senate, IS NOT KNOWN TO FLIP-FLOP. It is why, unlike the others, he is they only one since 2002 that didn't say in their own defense, "Bush duped me," or "The CIA tricked me."

      Check the congressional records of all the candidates. Look for the one that stood up, often alone, to defend our rights, to demand the truth without waivering, while the others acted like wimpy sell-outs to their fascist masters. You won't see many that were doing the right thing every time. You'll see where most of them contradict themselves orally and through their votes and any policies they introduce and sponsor, or co-sponsor. Your internet access removes any excuse you might have about why you don't know how wrong your impression of Dennis Kucinich is. I suggest, you learn more about him before you pass judgment.
  • opticwind, on 01/14/2008, -17/+2I'm not a Kucinich fan, so I'm being honest about where I come from on this.
    I think "silenced" is the wrong word here. The median covers candidates that have enough interest. It's not fair, it's about ratings. As far as I'm concerned, the tv news media is really pretty unnecessary to the political process. We all know the questions will be buttered up and cliche, you can find any information about ANY candidate's beliefs on the net these days. Admittedly, most people (including myself) are too lazy for this approach, but I maintain that relying on the tv for political debates is just lazy.
    And no, I don't vote.
    • Rodalli, on 01/14/2008, -0/+8Oh, you don't vote? You could have put that at the top of your comment so we could have all stopped reading right there. Thanks for being part of the problem.
  • lex0nyc, on 01/14/2008, -2/+9SERVER UNPREPARED TO BE DUGG!!!
  • jsffive, on 01/14/2008, -1/+15You go Dennis. Even though I'm a Ron Paul supporter, I see the HONORABLE Congressman's roll to be just as important and vital to the preservation of our democracy.

    From what I've read and heard, he seems to be interested in holding these criminals accountable, and that's the kind of politician I want to start seeing. I'm tired of the echo chamber, and I'm sick of seeing nothing but apologists on TV.

    Good luck Mr. Kucinich.
  • ufia, on 01/14/2008, -17/+1This morning I farted, and I was totally silenced by the media. Time to send angry letters to Fox News, they will hear about this!
  • dkern, on 01/14/2008, -4/+15I wish that Kucinich and Paul would team up- that would be an administration worth supporting.
    • cha5e, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4Other than both being "popular on the web"...I don't see how the two are all that similar. Looking at the issues matrix at http://www.2decide.com/table.htm they disagree on just over half of the issues listed.
      • coocha, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0Yeah they disagree, but they're both on record as saying that they hold each other in high regard, and respect each others' positions when they differ. You don't have to walk in lock-step with someone to get along with them, or to get things done. Hypothetically speaking of course, a Kucinich/Paul administration could potentially be a boon to a federal two-party system that is more concerned with wedge issues than actual compromise/progress.
      • theOster, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1but wouldn't that be the beauty of it? questions and discussions within one administration rather than a bunch of "yessir/nosir" bs? i was wondering if cross party-teaming was even allowed. anyone know? (yeah i'm lazy)
    • CazMo, on 01/14/2008, -2/+1Ron Paul has been quoted saying he'd want Kucinich by his side if he were elected, because he agrees with many of his policies, but there are some economic issues he doesn't want to be as liberal about as kucinich is
      • Waterrat, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1 And since Ron paul thinks evolution never happened and is agaiest women's reproductive rights...I'd have to vote independent....No christian conservative will ever get my vote.
    • ninepointfive, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1I think it would be great for Kucinich to be VP with Paul as President.

      Kucinich could handle the cleaning up of the war, while Paul focused on economics and reducing the size of Federal Government.
  • rudy23, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5I have a hundred bucks on him at 500:1. He better do something soon ;)
  • keithburgun, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4anyone got a mirror?
  • gamebittk, on 01/14/2008, -1/+3*sigh*
    This'll have to do for now.
    Mirror: http://www.freewebs.com/geout/mirror.htm
  • RepublicansSuck, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6That would be awesome if, in some huge astronomical twist-of-fate, Dennis Kucinich part of the mainstream presidential nominees, or better yet: the next President.
    • topide, on 01/14/2008, -1/+0Would take quite a huge astronomical twist-of-fate huh?
  • Psygonn, on 01/14/2008, -0/+8"After being silenced by the media, Kucinich goes viral"

    after being silenced by the digg effect, this article goes mirrored
  • S1L3NTC, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5If the next administration doesn't get this country turned around and at least facing in the correct direction, I'm either emigrating or joining the revolution.
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1We always have room for more genuine patriots in the Revolution.
  • Waterrat, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Forbidden

    You don't have permission to access /2008/01/13/after-being-silenced-by-the-mainstream-media-kucinich-is-going-viral/ on this server.
  • tuxedomask5432, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1Seems I can't access the site. The page says its forbidden. Something's fishy here . . .
  • topide, on 01/14/2008, -7/+0Isn't he the clown who said he saw a UFO?
    • CazMo, on 01/14/2008, -1/+4Aren't you the clown who things that in a universe of Hundreds of Trillions of stars and galaxies that not one civilization is more advanced than ours to the point where they can visit us? Get your head outta' ur ass, buddy.
      • topide, on 01/14/2008, -2/+0Yea she's hot. And CazMo, isn't he the clown who said he saw a UFO?
      • Roflhat, on 01/14/2008, -1/+0wow cazmo.. you aren't very smart are you? the chances of other intelligent life ANYWHERE out in the universe is slim to none. Spontaneous evolution has the same chance of happening as a functional Boeing 747 being created by a tornado going through a junkyard. If you believe in Evolution then you should attribute life on earth as a freaky accident.
    • Y2Krieger, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2I'm willing to bet you're a clown who believes man was made from dust and a woman was made from a man's rib. I think if you can swallow that *****, this isn't much of a leap.
      • topide, on 01/14/2008, -1/+0I'm Hindu and a democrat. I just think he's a nutjob.
      • Roflhat, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0technically speaking, we ARE made of dust. after all, ninety percent of dust is flaked off skin, and hair. and when we die, after enough decomposition, we turn into dirt. Also, you can't really say that in itself is crazy. After all, that is based of the assumption that a god exists who is omnipotent, and omniscient. if such a god exists, then the creation of man out of dirt, or the creation of woman out of mans rib, is not in question, it is the validity of the bible, and therefor, the existence of the christian/Jewish/Muslim god in question.
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1Like nobody ever sees something that they cannot identify with a name?
      He also believes in God and Jesus, as do lots of Americans. I guess, we have a lot of clowns in our country and a lot more in the government that claim to believe in God.
      I believe in God and Jesus, among other things. I guess, that makes me a clown. I've never seen God, that I know of. So, like the Atheists say, I believe in what they call a mythological figure.
  • wayzup, on 01/14/2008, -0/+11There's a trend in this election...if you are firm in your stance of ending the war ASAP and bringing troops home, you're not going to get a fraction of a fraction of the airtime on mass news outlets & you won't be 'invited' to debates. There is no platform for peace that will get Rupert Murdoch & Co. to allow their talking heads to discuss it. Wonder why that is......?
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1War means money for them.
      General Electric, which owns MSNBC and NBC, is a war contractor.
      If there still exists a marriage between Time/Warner/Disney, then Time sells war and Warner sells it through "entertainment."
      The executives and talking heads ought to be challenged to divulge their financial statements to let us see whether, or not they've been cashing in on war through their investments.
  • ThinkFr33ly, on 01/14/2008, -9/+2Give me a break. Kucinich wasn't silenced, he was ignored. The man had PLENTY of opportunities to get his message out. He was in multiple nationally televised debates. He has a significant online presence. He was on multiple network and cable news shows.

    And he was IGNORED by the electorate because they don't like him as a candidate, or they don't agree with his policies.

    Either way, he wasn't silenced or suppressed. He had his chance, and he lost. Deal with it.
    • RepublicansSuck, on 01/14/2008, -0/+8Uhh, dude, he was given like ZERO opportunities to get his message out.
    • lucutus, on 01/14/2008, -0/+7He was only allowed in one televised debate and wasn't asked a question until 40 minutes into it.
  • LeeSoong, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1Whew! Glad I already got my shots . . .
  • icegoddess13, on 01/14/2008, -0/+20Isn't Kucinich one of the few congressmen pushing to impeach the Bush Regime? I'm all for him if he is.
    • RepublicansSuck, on 01/14/2008, -0/+10Yep, he's the author of H. Res. 333, the bill that would impeach Bush.

      But of course hardly anyone will sign it, everyone apparently loves King Bush too much.
  • QaSpel, on 01/14/2008, -9/+0Is he still in the race?
    • topide, on 01/14/2008, -4/+0No because he failed utterly in Iowa.
  • bingobongony, on 01/14/2008, -9/+1He hasn't been silenced by the media. People just don't care what he has to say becuase he is a lunatic.
  • eirinikos, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0403 Forbidden :(

    Denied!
  • nketring, on 01/14/2008, -10/+0Dennis Kucinich is an embarrassment
    • coocha, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6He is one the few candidates with a voting record that accurately reflects his own beliefs and principles. He is one of only two candidates who refuses to take campaign money from corporate sources. Some people find that standing up for one's beliefs against the odds can be embarrassing. I'm glad Dennis doesn't.
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1I'm embarrassed that our government has been traditionally dominated by liars, double-dealers, fascists and plutocrats. Especially now!
      My vote for Dennis Kucinich comes from the heart of a genuinely patriotic American that took the time to examine his background several years ago. He seemed too good to be true, mostly because I'm used to seeing the plutocratic fascists, double-dealers and liars that run for and hold public office.

      I'm embarrassed that some Americans are too shallow and ignorant to take Dennis seriously. I'm embarrassed that these people contribute to our problems, because they don't know how to wisely select a candidate. That's why most of them believe the lies they're told and fall for domestic, global and economic policies that are fascist and plutocratic, which hurt ordinary people, like me.

      I am embarrassed that so many Americans have been conditioned to rely on the entertainment industry for their information about our government, our country, and political candidates. And they actually believe they're getting their information from conscientious, professional journalists that would never lie to them. Haha! No wonder why things keep getting worse here.
  • ThinkAwake, on 01/14/2008, -4/+0with what money?
  • freakshowlee, on 01/14/2008, -5/+0Viral!? No wonder Kucinich makes me wanna puke...
  • Skysurfer, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1"We are hiring a special TV engineering truck that can send Dennis’ broadcasts to all the TV and radio stations around Nevada and the rest of the country."

    So is he buying airtime or what? You can have the most bad ass broadcast trailer ever made, but the local TV and radio stations still control distribution to the masses. They are not going to broadcast it just because you are making the programming available. Either he fronts the cash for the airtime or makes the broadcast viable enough to sell commercials.
  • charlietuna, on 01/14/2008, -2/+1Convert the Department of War to the Department of Peace? I think he's better off staying in Congress and spooning with his wife.
    • savagesteve13, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3The only time you need a department of war is when there's an adolf hitler nearby. Many departments/organizations have long since become irrelevant, such as NATO, the CIA, the Department of Defense, and the OAS.
      • charlietuna, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1Right you are, since there are clearly no wars, nor are there any hostile powers left in the world. I grant you that we (the US) should perhaps emulate the peaceful Swiss who arm their citizen reservists with assault rifles.
  • bsegovia, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1haha, i clicked on the link and got the following:

    "Forbidden

    You don't have permission to access /2008/01/13/after-being-silenced-by-the-mainstream-media-kucinich-is-going-viral/ on this server."

    Guess the media is REALLY going to lengths to silence him!
  • Scheissen, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1Kucinich supporter - "wahhhhhh!"
  • faskippy, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2I wonder what would happen if Paul and Kucinich announced they were teaming up. Now THAT would turn some heads, and probably incite a newsstorm. I imagine it would also win a lot of people over, just realizing that if a Republican and a Democrat could actually work together, it must be for the good of the Country. Hell, I'd vote for 'em!!
  • h4mx0r, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2I want a dark horse in this race... Kucinich!
  • Andy1369, on 01/15/2008, -0/+2I find it ironic that so many Americans are against the war, and want a better government - yet when the time comes, they pick the same old people.

    Any ideas why?
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1Because they let the corporate media tell them how to think and vote?
  • ChimpFlix, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1I support his defiance of the media, but are you telling me you don't understand the difference between Ron Paul's stance on the Constitution and Dennis' political positions? Really?
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1They have a lot in common, despite their differences. They are friends, but not clones. A debate between those two would actually be interesting. Far better than a pseudo-debate between all those plutocrats that whore out our government offices for profit and campaign support.
  • mvlazysusan, on 01/15/2008, -0/+3I like Dennis second only to ron paul
  • savvyconsumer7, on 01/15/2008, -0/+4Get Ron Paul, Alan Keyes, Duncan Hunter, Kucinich and Gravel together for a debate. That should generate media attention.
    • TrevaLVF, on 01/15/2008, -0/+2I gave you a prop for mentioning the ignored candidates, but the corporate media would make a point to ignore such a debate.
      Let's face it. The corporate media has some thing to hide and an agenda to protect and push through its preferred candidates.
  • 4chin8, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Ya' know, only one guy gets to be president every four years, but there is room enough near to top for others...anybody that is for trying to renew Americans belief in government, God divine authority and the general American Way of Life, I want to be policy makers in WA, DC.--Thank you and God bless your service to America! Anyone else, GO AWAY...I'm tired on you and so is my Mentor seated at the right hand of the Father in Heaven.
    • 4chin8, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2that was "and want to be policymakers in WA, DC...or, maybe I do want to personally make changes in WA...
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