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AOL Blacks Out Ron Paul States in Straw Poll
img138.imageshack.us — I know his is a Dark Horse, but this is just getting ridiculous! They literally blacked out his name and the states that he is winning in. I'm suuuure it's just a "technichal glitch"
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- QuantumBios, on 05/14/2008, -13/+35Someday, it will be common knowledge to Americans that the corporations did this to this man. Little by little, the stranglehold of information, the relentless dis-information campaign by the media, and the under-handed tricks to marginalize this man will be known to all.
- Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -14/+9How does it feel to lie so openly?
- ncairns, on 05/14/2008, -11/+4You probably get used to it if you're a Paulie.
- Chazx, on 05/14/2008, -11/+6Someday you will realise how pathetic it was of you to spread ***** propaganda.
- brad3378, on 05/14/2008, -3/+16This story is *****
Buried as inaccurate
If you look closely, you'll see that the screen capture is taken from a (buggier) Beta version of Firefox.
It works - see for yourself: http://news.aol.com/political-machine/straw-poll
Seriously - can we knock it off with the conspiracy theories and stick with the REAL issues like our $31,000 per citizen national debt? http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
This is nearly as bad as reading a typical Obama story.- Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -6/+3My copy of FF beta 5 works fine. IF this were a bug, it would be a bug in flash, not the browser. Also, I use FF maybe once a week...so I'm no fanboy :)
Just being nitpicky...- Firehed, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3I'll confirm that this works perfectly fine in Firefox 3 Beta 5.
- rmtatum, on 05/14/2008, -1/+1I use Firefox 3 Beta 5 and it worked fine for me. The poll uses flash for rendering. It has nothing to do with the browser. AOL is guilty!
- Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -6/+3My copy of FF beta 5 works fine. IF this were a bug, it would be a bug in flash, not the browser. Also, I use FF maybe once a week...so I'm no fanboy :)
- Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -14/+9How does it feel to lie so openly?
- mdonato, on 05/14/2008, -10/+33Pay no attention to the Constitutionalist. Ron Paul does not exist as far as the media is concerned. They have to ignore him because they don't have the answers to the questions he poses and no rebuttal for the solutions he offers.
- aajjcckk, on 05/14/2008, -1/+5This, my friends, is known as the suppression of democracy. So, are you all going to just crack some jokes, shake your head sadly, and move onto the next Digg story?....
- Dumbledorito, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3Read the comments below. This, my friends, is a persecution complex and/or paranoia.
- aajjcckk, on 05/14/2008, -1/+5This, my friends, is known as the suppression of democracy. So, are you all going to just crack some jokes, shake your head sadly, and move onto the next Digg story?....
- yogmama08, on 05/14/2008, -11/+21How do you spell SISSY and SLEAZY? Oh, I just did! AOL=Afraid Of Liberty; take a memo!
- Dumbledorito, on 05/14/2008, -2/+2How do you spell "Ron Paul-ites prove once again that they're the biggest voter turn-off their movement has?" It's not a conspiracy, the OP just doesn't believe in updating his/her browser. Get a grip.
- rmtatum, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2It has nothing to do with the browser. I tested it on Firefox 2 and Firefox 3 Beta 5, and it works fine on both versions of Firefox.
- Dumbledorito, on 05/14/2008, -2/+2How do you spell "Ron Paul-ites prove once again that they're the biggest voter turn-off their movement has?" It's not a conspiracy, the OP just doesn't believe in updating his/her browser. Get a grip.
- Midoc, on 05/14/2008, -25/+20Online polls are irrelevant, last November it was revealed that the various Ron Paul forums online linked to most major polls in order to force a win for Paul as a way to generate hype that he was the most loved candidate.
- QuantumBios, on 05/14/2008, -6/+18If people love their candidate, and take the 2 minutes it takes to communicate an opportunity to display their support for that candidate, why should that be irrevelant? Terrible argument.
- Midoc, on 05/14/2008, -15/+10"If people love their candidate, and take the 2 minutes it takes to communicate an opportunity to display their support for that candidate, why should that be irrevelant?" Because it is misleading. I thought you backbirths were against misleading people.
- lpviper, on 05/14/2008, -4/+11This from a supporter of an MSM candidate? Too Rich!!!!
- Midoc, on 05/14/2008, -8/+8The fact that you quickly dismiss me because I am a supporter of a "MSM" candidate only proves my point.
- dmjarrington, on 05/14/2008, -4/+6what point? that you do whatever you are told?
- Midoc, on 05/14/2008, -6/+7The point that Paultards are fanatical. I am dismissed not because of my personal beliefs, but because I support Obama. If I had the same beliefs and supported Paul there would be no issue at hand. Simply because I do not support Paul I am deemed ignorant and unpatriotic. In your eyes if I want to help America there is only one leader I can follow, only one philosophy I can support. Paul advocates some form of freedom, but his followers demand unyielding fascism.
- dmjarrington, on 05/14/2008, -3/+8we are not misleading. we are leading. there is a difference.
- Midoc, on 05/14/2008, -5/+7There is a substantial difference between misleading and leading, one that I am well aware of. But you are misleading and you actively engage in misinformation, and it is a reprehensible act and one of the reasons why people like me will always oppose you.
- lpviper, on 05/14/2008, -4/+11This from a supporter of an MSM candidate? Too Rich!!!!
- Terr01, on 05/14/2008, -2/+8Quantum, it's irrelevant because...
THE POLL IS NO LONGER REPRESENTATIVE OF THE US POPULATION.
This is Social Science 101, guys. You cannot have a relevant and accurate poll unless you at least do something to deal with response bias, and the most scientifically sound way of doing this is to conduct random polls where people are sought out.
I have a great deal of respect for many of Ron Paul's positions, but no matter how great they are they don't forgive your ignorance of basic logic and statistics.
- Midoc, on 05/14/2008, -15/+10"If people love their candidate, and take the 2 minutes it takes to communicate an opportunity to display their support for that candidate, why should that be irrevelant?" Because it is misleading. I thought you backbirths were against misleading people.
- QuantumBios, on 05/14/2008, -6/+18If people love their candidate, and take the 2 minutes it takes to communicate an opportunity to display their support for that candidate, why should that be irrevelant? Terrible argument.
- sagenhoney, on 05/14/2008, -10/+13nuthin new - especially from time-warner. I noticed that when you first vote....his picture just tries to keep loading.
Glitch (my ass)
Two hours later, and I get the same thing on my computer. - cyndezu, on 05/14/2008, -8/+16O.M.G
I knew this was B.S. Pretty blatant. They musta freaked when McCain went down into the 50% range. - Look4Truth, on 05/14/2008, -9/+15Anyone else waking up yet?
- HandsOfNod, on 05/14/2008, -1/+1I still haven't slept yet...
- lpviper, on 05/14/2008, -8/+8This sort of thing will continue for as long as it is tolerated, which is to say until the advertisers who are a party to the Ron Paul (liberty) blackout are widely boycotted. This will require a large show of togetherness by a people who have been segmented and grouped and compartmentalized by media religion and government for 100 years in this land. Actually it's been going on longer than that, but the propaganda have come hard and heavy in the last century or so. Want your children to be slaves to the banking elite and world government? Keep voting for the 'lesser of two evils.'
- rkooshak, on 05/14/2008, -6/+13It appears as if his name and picture are 'loading' when you first enter the site. Once you vote, for the unnamed candidate all the states he won are blacked out. I just don't understand why these people do this - why they fear Paul's popularity? What a horrible job they have to lie, cheat and manipulate people. It's obvious that is what's going on.
- KMye, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4oops
- reed311, on 05/14/2008, -8/+9Yep, you guys have been astroturfing for Ron Paul this entire campaign and then you want to talk about manipulation?
For Christ sake, you guys are the only people who were gullible enough to actually believe in the validity of these stupid Internet polls. 99% of America is smart enough to know that they are spammed/rigged and generally useless.
- codapop, on 05/14/2008, -3/+7Looks fine for me unless it changed since I found this.
Paul is green
McCain is blue- Dumbledorito, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4Same here. But feel free to digg codapop and me down just because we're not seeing the same "OMFGCONSPIRACYlolDrPAUL!" that you've convinced yourself is there.
- Snyder81, on 05/14/2008, -9/+5If you want to see the source of this blackout check out http://www.johnmccainforum.com/forum/showthread.ph ... . For those of you who support John McCain, please read that thread. There are some *very twisted* people who control information.
From the thread:
"We just blacked out Ron Paul's name on the AOL StrawPoll
Shalom
First please go to the AOL Straw Poll and vote for Senator McCain. The bad news is Wrong Paul is winning now. We must not let this happen.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/straw-poll
The good news is:
After Wrong Paul received nearly 50% of the vote for the first time in months I just got off the phone with AOL's webmaster.
Since this may hurt our nominee Senator John McCain online. I gave AOL authorization to WHACK Ron Paul. kapeesh!
It has been done so dont worry everyone. We thwarted his online rebellion very easily
Heres proof of the ADL's power to monitor any antisemetic freespeech and WHACK IT
pls send us any similar online Polls and dont worry we know how to get things done to ensure Senator McCain is the nominee and finally president
God Bless Israel 1st
America 2nd
Shalom"- ssn697, on 05/14/2008, -5/+9LOL. A Ron Paul supporter complaining that someone is gaming an Internet poll.
Part of the Universe just collapsed...- scuvball, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3That has been the state of the Universe for the past 9 months, though. Unfortunately, the internet population is not a random sample and no online poll demonstrates with accuracy the support for any candidate.
- ssn697, on 05/14/2008, -5/+9LOL. A Ron Paul supporter complaining that someone is gaming an Internet poll.
- ssn697, on 05/14/2008, -10/+18Works like a charm for me. Maybe, just maybe, it is a bug in your beta version of Mozilla?
LOL. CONSPIRACY!!!!- rexblade, on 05/14/2008, -5/+5look at the john mccain forum they brag about it! sick.
- ssn697, on 05/14/2008, -2/+4Wow, almost like the Ron Paul forums for 6 months! No, wait, EXACTLY like the Ron Paul forums for 6 months!
It is truly amazing how blind to your own actions you (Ron Paul supporters) are, while calling others out for doint the EXACT SAME THING. Truly amazing.- rexblade, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3? So Ron Paul people called the AOL webmaster to try and manipulate their own poll in his favor (or any online poll) when he wasn't winning? Guess I missed that. But if you say it's the exact same then it must be. So sorry my mistake......I wonder if the McCain office also has direct relationships with the good folks at Diebold. I bet they are on speed dial.
- ssn697, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3Yes, some guy on a message board making that claim means it REALLY HAPPENED! Dude, your threshold for persecution complex is so amazingly low.
Meanwhile, for MONTHS, Ron Paul forums would post links telling people "quick go vote in this online poll, and here are the instructions for using proxy servers, so you can vote multiple times."
You can deny it if you like, but we posted the comments for all to see. To see you complain after months of that, shows how willing you are to forgive any activity, if it is for Ron Paul, but bitch about the same when someone else does it.
You should add "hypocrite" to your ID name. - rexblade, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1I still fail to see how it's the same. Maybe because its not the same. No Ron Paul supporter has contacted the host of any poll. Go ahead and get your Troll buddies to digg me down it still don't make it the same. Im not even registered on the Ron Paul forums I don't even go there very often so I don't know what your talking about. It's kinda weird you do though. Happy Trolling!
- ssn697, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3Yes, some guy on a message board making that claim means it REALLY HAPPENED! Dude, your threshold for persecution complex is so amazingly low.
- rexblade, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3? So Ron Paul people called the AOL webmaster to try and manipulate their own poll in his favor (or any online poll) when he wasn't winning? Guess I missed that. But if you say it's the exact same then it must be. So sorry my mistake......I wonder if the McCain office also has direct relationships with the good folks at Diebold. I bet they are on speed dial.
- ssn697, on 05/14/2008, -2/+4Wow, almost like the Ron Paul forums for 6 months! No, wait, EXACTLY like the Ron Paul forums for 6 months!
- rexblade, on 05/14/2008, -5/+5look at the john mccain forum they brag about it! sick.
- vault, on 05/14/2008, -5/+7what an ugly system font you've chosen to match an even uglier operating system...buried for aesthetic reasons.
- Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -6/+27http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff91/Hortnon/no ...
To prove you guys are morons
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff91/Hortnon/bl ...
To mock you for thinking this is hard to do.- purplesawdust, on 05/14/2008, -3/+0Story Buried
- PiGuy, on 05/14/2008, -2/+6I more curious about the tab titles the submitter has whited out.
- Spoonicus, on 05/14/2008, -2/+4Urrrgh!! is that Windows 98SE??
- Hortnon, on 05/14/2008, -3/+2Start menu says no. It's XP at worst. Possibly Server 2003.
- Erythroxylum, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3Anything after Windows 98 is unconstitutional! Thomas Jefferson used Windows 98 on his PC (which he bought with gold dubloons and not worthless fiat money which Jews conjured out of thin air with Jew Magik).
It's outrageous that they should literally black out Dr. Ron's name! They must be afraid of his message! They must be afraid of his online popularity! I'm so angry that I'm going to dress up in colonial clothing, smoke weed, watch 'Loose Change: Final Cut' and wank myself unconscious.
- Ih8troofers, on 05/14/2008, -5/+10buried as inaccurate. Everyone knows there is no such thing as a "ron paul state"
- toekneebullard, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2I would SO move there.
- madfrogurt, on 05/14/2008, -4/+5What a remarkable find! You have pr oven, quite convincingly that there was either a preprogrammed fail safe in the polling software that automatically censored itself when Ron Paul, champion of the downtrodden, rightfully pulled in the lead he so rightly deserves! That, or else there was a techie coding furiously to censor the page and mess with the results.
Or maybe it was a graphics glitch you paranoid ***** idiot. - rexblade, on 05/14/2008, -1/+7Oh good the trolls have arrived.
- 10scott10, on 05/14/2008, -6/+4so if ron paul has so many supporters, how come he only has 15 total delegates. you know from the way you talk about his support you'd think he might be able to get, you know 20 delegates. so really, the media prevented the fringe candidate from winning the extra 1000+ delegates, you only 66 times the number of delegates he really got.
but please go ahead and riot at the GOP convention, i'd love to give the democrats an easy win this year.- rexblade, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1And who said riot?
- NeoRicen, on 05/14/2008, -4/+2....IT'S ***** OVER!!!!!!!!!
- jbdobd, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2A.O...who?
- BeeArePro, on 05/14/2008, -5/+3NOT THIS ***** AGAIN, ***** digg... burried.
- visiblepulse, on 05/14/2008, -0/+9"did Jenna Bush's wedding heal America?" WTF?!?!?
- smacksaw, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5Paul is almost 50-50 with McCain on this straw poll. Buyer's remorse? McCain ain't getting any better. Perhaps people realise that "crazy old Ron Paul" is better than "senile and dangerously uninformed John McCain" for the Republican nominee?
- dmh11686, on 05/14/2008, -4/+2I highly doubt that. This is a internet poll which means nothing. When people actually vote, like yesterday in West Virginia, McCain gets a lot of support. In WV, Ron Paul got 5% of the vote half of what Hucakbee received, who dropped out months ago.
- zephyear, on 05/14/2008, -3/+2it works fine, update your browser or whatever
IT'S A CONSPIRACYY!!!! - iamnotrich, on 05/14/2008, -3/+1you didn't get the memo . obama is the new ron paul.
- aajjcckk, on 05/14/2008, -3/+5This, my friends, is known as the supression of democracy. So, are you all going to just crack some jokes, shake your head sadly, and move onto the next Digg story?....
- Dumbledorito, on 05/14/2008, -2/+2Psst: It's not supression of anything but intelligence. As in, "rather than note that this particular user experienced a glitch in their ancient browser, let's all grab our tin foil hats and play 'pin the conspiracy on the media'."
- noahco, on 05/14/2008, -2/+4Anyone see the HotSeat poll? Jenna Bush's wedding definitely did heal america! haha
- Flashtone, on 05/14/2008, -2/+2windows 95 theme ftw... haha
- plimpton777, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2***** THING SUCKS
- BelatedHero, on 05/14/2008, -4/+3Ron Paul, lol.
- Evildudetx, on 05/14/2008, -4/+2Who cares? Honestly, RP never had a chance anyway. Time to get over it and move on.......
- demonic, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4sorry but I reckon that poll is rigged, I just tried voting for ron paul and it stated that my passcode was wrong 3 times in a row... no idea whether my vote then actually was logded after the 4th go.
- ultraJesus, on 05/14/2008, -3/+1YOU ARE A ***** LIAR
- soomprimal, on 05/14/2008, -2/+4I've heard of media blackout but this is ridiculous.
- AbhorrentBanana, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4Just checked it out on my computer and no problems. His name and states showed up fine. Also let me vote just fine as well. The first code had a number or letter that I couldn't tell so I guessed and was wrong, but the second code was legible.
- ZeroDarkness, on 05/14/2008, -1/+5Well, I just went there and Ron Paul's name was there. As a matter of fact, most the states listed him as the leader. Most likely a glitch, a random coincidence, or the makings of another Urban Legend. Ron Paul FTW!
- brutalsponge, on 05/14/2008, -5/+4Conspiracy nuts, go away.
- gnixon70, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4Beware of the government media complex.
When you have people just buying up media outlets like crazy, that just opens a nation up to severe censorship and convenient reporting. call me paranoid? Perhaps, but if its true, is it still paranoia?
Ok, this article might be inaccurate, but it does seem that the media is only focusing on Hillary/Obama as if there are no other people running. - rexblade, on 05/15/2008, -1/+1I didn't make this observation but I do find it interesting/scary regarding yesterdays primary. I know this is not the first time the numbers have totally changed during the primary count. During the early primaries I remember a similar report about New Hampshire. This was dismissed as a "transcription error" when the numbers in Pauls column suddenly traded with McCains. Now 1 time I can buy that, but Ive heard and seen this several times now about several primaries.
Could this help explain why Dr. Paul lost so badly in West Virginia?
I took screen shots of the results last night and this jumped out at me.
I posted the screenshots to a forum.
Raleigh County, W. Va. anomaly in results
Raleigh County 79% reporting:
McCain 60% 2187 votes
Ron Paul 27% 983 votes
Huckabee 10% 357 votes
Raleigh County 100% reporting:
McICain 79% 2774 votes
Huckabee 13% 462 votes
Ron Paul 3% 116 votes
983-116=867 votes lost by Ron Paul!! - Chromedaffodils, on 05/31/2008, -0/+1So, Turner entertainment (NWO bla bla bla) (See alex jones for more info) owns AOL, who is running this poll. Is this a poll to have your say, or a poll for them to database our IP addresses - as if.... ghost your ip and hit it like mad! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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