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- SeethisPass, on 11/23/2007, -14/+36Bush personally ordered those lies and caused the resulting deaths.
Giuliani is quickly becoming irrelevant although he had the ability and the duty to refute those lies.- thcobbs, on 11/23/2007, -12/+8"Bush personally ordered those lies and caused the resulting deaths."
Got any proof of that? I'm guessing you don't- mightydavefish, on 11/23/2007, -8/+9I DOES seem unlikely it went as high as Bush to lie about the air.
But SOMEBODY lied, and the buck stops with Bush, he's the CiC.
I love how you rightards try to convince people that the Bush regime is NEVER responsible for ANYTHING they do.
You are a sad little man. What do you gain by denying Americans the truth?- nicepants, on 11/23/2007, -2/+5So, in other words, No...you don't have any proof.
- Scorpy2643, on 11/23/2007, -4/+3yes, because anything thast happens in the whole world is Bush's fault, he' the CiC after all. ***** tard
- thatsmyaibo, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4I don't like Bush but it is getting pretty old the way diggers pin everything on him.
- SeethisPass, on 11/24/2007, -1/+2Much damning info on the web has been deleted. I have seen in news articles the exact charge that I make.
Having said that the information Is available that Bush issued an executive order declaring the information secret. Here ya' go,
http://www.unknownnews.org/060728-911epa.html
From the article.
9/11 health lies bigger than previously known
Bush executive order let EPA bury info on 9/11 health hazards
by Corky Siemaszko,
New York Daily News
July 28, 2006
With New Yorkers already fuming about reports that the feds downplayed the danger of Ground Zero dust, the White House gave EPA chief Christie Whitman the power to bury embarrassing documents by classifying them "secret."
"I hereby designate the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency to classify information originally as 'Secret,'" states the executive order, which was signed by President Bush on May 6, 2002.
Although the stated reason for Bush's directive is to keep "national security information" from falling into enemy hands, advocates for thousands of ailing Ground Zero heroes are convinced there's a more sinister motive.
Here is Hillary demanding that bush explain why " your white house" lied about the air quality.
http://www.senate.gov/~clinton/news/statements/det ...
"We are outraged by the apparently conscious decision by your White House to provide more reassuring advice to the public than was merited by the facts. We therefore request, in the name of public health, that you both take immediate action to ensure that New York's air quality is as safe as promised and provide an expeditious and thorough response to our inquiries in this letter."
Since bush PERSONALLY declared it secret I must take back a single word in my original comment, the single word "Personally" although I feel that the word is wholly accurate.
- mightydavefish, on 11/23/2007, -8/+9I DOES seem unlikely it went as high as Bush to lie about the air.
- sifeliz, on 11/24/2007, -1/+2"Rudy: Toxin Worries Are Just Hot Air"
http://xs321.xs.to/xs321/07476/hotair.jpg
- thcobbs, on 11/23/2007, -12/+8"Bush personally ordered those lies and caused the resulting deaths."
- whatthefu, on 11/23/2007, -6/+104That website is ***** hideous.
- hiphoc, on 11/23/2007, -1/+7decent info, I dont agree with all of it, but yea the site looks like one of those weird ads for hormone colonge or something cheezy like that.
- funkyjunk3, on 11/23/2007, -4/+5I think the article is worth it, however the site *reeks* with hype.
- thumperings, on 11/23/2007, -8/+3yea 9-11 truthers need web 2.0
- deadmann, on 11/24/2007, -2/+5Why does every conspiracy site ever made look like this?
- siszam, on 11/24/2007, -4/+2It's not a conspiracy if it's fact.
- deadmann, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2Err, no.
"An act of working in secret to obtain some goal, usually understood with negative connotations."
- deadmann, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2Err, no.
- siszam, on 11/24/2007, -4/+2It's not a conspiracy if it's fact.
- vade79, on 11/24/2007, -1/+3Impressively bad, you can see the jpeg-distortion in the text inside the flash, a nice touch considering there was no reason to make that flash anyways.
- trisquithere, on 11/23/2007, -5/+23yes! finally! the truth about Guiliani comes out!
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -1/+16Did you really need a tin hat website to tell you that Guiliani is a sleeze ball of epic proportions?
- brad3378, on 11/23/2007, -1/+2What I need is a shovel and some hip boots.
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -1/+16Did you really need a tin hat website to tell you that Guiliani is a sleeze ball of epic proportions?
- smoothmedia, on 11/23/2007, -4/+14As a general rule, when asking the public if they want "more information about" or "investigation into" something, almost always at least two thirds will say "yes".
- cecinestpasvrai, on 11/23/2007, -3/+6Citation? That seems like something you could actually show through like, statistics and graphs and all that instead of presenting it like common knowledge.
- smoothmedia, on 11/23/2007, -1/+3Something I learned in statistics classes. Re-ask the same group of people if they want "an investigation into" the same with "at a cost of $______ to taxpayers", and a far smaller number with say "yes". People tend to have a "why not!?" or "no harm in that" view when it comes to getting more information, but when they are presented with the costs of obtaining such information, you get the REAL opinion.
- clark24, on 11/23/2007, -0/+4It's common knowledge to anyone who has taken a basic course on Statistics.
- nicepants, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3Point proven...you're already asking for more info :)
- aelias, on 11/23/2007, -0/+2Would you like to know more?
- smoothmedia, on 11/23/2007, -2/+2Here is the question from the survey. "On September 13, 2001, the White House, EPA and Mayor Giuliani promised New Yorkers that “the air is safe to breathe” surrounding the World Trade Towers. On the other hand, the EPA Inspector General has suggested it was full of radioactive and carcinogenic dust. Do you agree or disagree that the New York Attorney General and Manhattan District Attorney should open an investigation?"
This is a professional polling company? That's a highly biased question.- xadhominemx, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3The polling companies often do not write the questions they ask- they are contracted out to ask questions by other organizations.
- cecinestpasvrai, on 11/23/2007, -3/+6Citation? That seems like something you could actually show through like, statistics and graphs and all that instead of presenting it like common knowledge.
- URnotheonly1, on 11/23/2007, -1/+5hmmm? no body asked me.
- terrordactyl, on 11/23/2007, -0/+5That's because you can't spell the word "nobody".
- grimjestor, on 11/23/2007, -1/+1Actually, he was referring to the fact that he has not been polled by any zombies, which is a terrible shame. Everyone knows that zombies are sent out to question every single member of the American public for every poll, and no bodies have approached ME either...
I demand a recount.
- grimjestor, on 11/23/2007, -1/+1Actually, he was referring to the fact that he has not been polled by any zombies, which is a terrible shame. Everyone knows that zombies are sent out to question every single member of the American public for every poll, and no bodies have approached ME either...
- terrordactyl, on 11/23/2007, -0/+5That's because you can't spell the word "nobody".
- RAEP, on 11/23/2007, -17/+9Spam making it to the front page? Grats digg.
- Scopitone, on 11/23/2007, -25/+4This a genuine poll or one of those Ron Paul zombie spammed ones?
- andy3109, on 11/23/2007, -12/+12I wonder if that site has any sort of bias.
Nah.... - daxsymbiont, on 11/23/2007, -4/+2in a democracy majority should decide.
- UtahApocalyse, on 11/23/2007, -3/+6we never were a democracy. We are a republic.
- dondara, on 11/23/2007, -0/+2A plutocracy would be closer.
- daxsymbiont, on 11/23/2007, -0/+1democracy in the general philosophical sense, not the local politics of the US.
- UtahApocalyse, on 11/23/2007, -3/+6we never were a democracy. We are a republic.
- timjim31, on 11/23/2007, -1/+4http://www.blairmag.com/blair5/golddust/golddust.j ...
- bbrodsky, on 11/23/2007, -8/+1We Three Kings be stealing to Gold
- jackmayhoff, on 11/23/2007, -10/+18Maybe instead of speculating on crazy theories they should spend $100 and hire someone that knows how to design a website that doesn't look like my 4-year old son made it.
- Yukimi, on 11/23/2007, -6/+2***** like this makes fark look like a republican braintrust...
- cecinestpasvrai, on 11/23/2007, -4/+8Dugg for the most cornball description of a serious issue I've ever seen.
- roqua, on 11/23/2007, -15/+9The site instantly loses credibility for spewing 9/11 truth conspiracy pigwash.
- inobla, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2Ain't that the truth. For every one fact they have correct, they have 10 that are complete crap. This site has less than 10% credibility as far as I'm concerned.
- vervalsing, on 11/23/2007, -8/+7I think it's nice to see that there are career opportunities for the mentally challenged in web site development.
- dondara, on 11/23/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I thought myspace was the only one
- inobla, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1Your point is even more evident from the site's content than for its design. Hard to imagine until you start reading some of it.
- Scopitone, on 11/23/2007, -8/+3I'll take my being dugg down as a prime indication that this IS one of those Ron Paul zombie spam ones =)
- Fragowell, on 11/23/2007, -12/+7Nothing on this website should ever be read by anyone. Buried.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/23/2007, -3/+4Whats a matter, it got something on it you don't want people to know?
- Scorpy2643, on 11/23/2007, -4/+0what's a matter with goverment wiretaps? You got something being said you don't want people to know?
- spyd3rweb, on 11/23/2007, -3/+4Whats a matter, it got something on it you don't want people to know?
- MikeFallopian, on 11/23/2007, -8/+10That site is hilarious - nice to see Digg returning to its less political, more comedy-oriented ways. My favorite is this article: http://www.reopen911.org/ReOpen911_2007Archive/hid ... It is a fair and sane rebuttal to Popular Mechanics' debunking of the conspiracies. And by that, I mean they say that the CIA took over Popular Mechanics.
- salinemist, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3Dude, how do you think they get all of those super secret shots of next years cars!?!?!?!
- knobtwiddler, on 11/24/2007, -2/+2they didnt take over it, they've always run it
hearst publishing is owned by a husband and wife, the wife is long time CIA.
besides all u have to do is flip thru it, its cover to cover ads for the military. if that doesnt tell you something... maybe u need a clue - Sep11insidejob, on 11/24/2007, -2/+5The NIST investigation was debunked by its former chief and I bet you didn't know about that. Before you start talking *****, go do some reading.
- laobao, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2Michael Chertoff's cousin is my favorite unbiased writer!
- leftykiller, on 11/23/2007, -16/+8Reopen911.org = Lunatics
- spyd3rweb, on 11/23/2007, -7/+9Berg, Philip J. - Deputy Attorney General, Pennsylvania
Bowman, Col. Robert - Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter
Burks, Fred - State Department Interpreter for Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton
Christison, William - Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis
Cleland, Senator Max - Member of the 9/11 Commission. Former U.S. Senator from Georgia
Cole, John M - Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI
Conrad, David Mark - Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs
Costello, Edward J. - Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
Dew, Rosemary N. - Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism & Counterintelligence, FBI
Dzakovic, Bogdan - Counterterrorism expert, FAA
Edmonds, Sibel - Language Translation Specialist, FBI
Elson, Steve - Special Agent, FAA
Fitts, Catherine Austin - Assistant Secretary of Housing under George H.W. Bush
Freeh, Louis - Director of the FBI, 1993 - 2001
Goodman, Melvin - Division Chief and Senior Analyst of Soviet Affairs, CIA
Goulder, Morton - Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under Presidents Nixon, Ford, Carter
Graf, Mark - Security Supervisor, Department of Energy
Graham, Gilbert M. - Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
Heikal, Mohamed Hassanein - Foreign Minister, Egypt
Hellyer, Paul - Minister of National Defense and Deputy Prime Minister, Canada
Honegger, Barbara - White House Policy Analyst Under Ronald Reagan
Ivashov, Gen. Leonid - Chief of Staff of the Russian Armed Forces
Kleiman, Diane - Special Agent, U.S. Customs
Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Karen - Political Military Affairs Officer, Office of the Secretary of Defense
Larkin, Lynne A. - Operation Officer, CIA
MacMichael, David - Senior Estimates Officer, CIA
McGovern, Raymond L. - Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA
Meacher, Michael - Undersecretary for Industry, Minister for the Environment, UK
Nelson, Col. George - U.S. Air Force aircraft crash investigator
Pahle, Theodore J. - Senior Intelligence Officer, Defense Intelligence Agency
Peck, Edward L. - Deputy Director of the White House Task Force on Terrorism under Ronald Reagan
Ray, Col. Ronald D. - Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan
Reynolds, Morgan - Chief Economist, U.S. Department of Labor under George W. Bush
Ritter, Maj. Scott - Marine Corps Intelligence Officer and Chief UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq
Roberts, Paul Craig - Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury under Ronald Reagan
Rokke, Maj. Douglas - Director U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project
Sarshar, Behrooz - Language Translation Specialist, FBI
Shayler, David - Counterterrorism Agent, MI5 (UK)
Stubblebine, Maj. Gen. Albert - Commanding General, U.S. Army Intelligence
Sullivan, Brian F. - Special Agent and Risk Management Specialist, FAA
Tortorich, Larry J. - US Naval Officer and Dept. of Homeland Security
Turner, Jane A. - Special Agent, FBI
Vincent, John B. - Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
von Buelow, Andreas - Minister of National Defense, West Germany
Weldon, Rep. Curt - Vice Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee
Whitehurst, Dr. Fred - Supervisory Special Agent, Forensic Examiner, FBI
Wittenberg, Capt. Russ - Air Force Fighter Pilot and Commercial Jet Pilot
Wright, Col. Ann - U.S. Army and Former Diplomat
Zipoli, Matthew J. - Special Response Team Officer, Department of Energy
All lunatics?- leftykiller, on 11/23/2007, -8/+6Yes.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/23/2007, -2/+7The 74% of people in this poll lunatics too?
- leftykiller, on 11/23/2007, -5/+3Yes.
- Scorpy2643, on 11/23/2007, -3/+4yes, 74 percent of handpicked new yorkers are lunatics
- nicepants, on 11/23/2007, -1/+4I'd sooner call that list "Lunatics" than I would the thousands of engineers and experts who assisted in the creation of the NIST report.
- leftykiller, on 11/23/2007, -8/+6Yes.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/23/2007, -7/+9Berg, Philip J. - Deputy Attorney General, Pennsylvania
- mrASSMAN, on 11/23/2007, -4/+8the content on that site is laughable, but it is definitely an interesting poll.
- nastronomical, on 11/23/2007, -11/+474% of wacko's need treatment.
- cecinestpasvrai, on 11/23/2007, -0/+11Look, the site is probably *****, but this issue is of actual concern to people who live in and around NYC. There IS evidence that negative health effects (potentially fatal) are affecting many people who volunteered and lived around ground zero. Giuliani has done little but cover-up and deny any problems, as it could tarnish his follower's 9/11 fetish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_arisin ...- cheesehead, on 11/24/2007, -1/+2These assholes aren't interested in the facts. Their mission is to bury the facts and deflect criticism
- laobao, on 11/25/2007, -1/+1Jewlyanne ran away!
You would too if you knew elevated levels of tritium would be in the area.
- clark24, on 11/23/2007, -4/+2The air in NYC is not safe to breathe in the first place! Probably better than Jersey though :)
- JusticeAK, on 11/23/2007, -2/+1"America's mayor"
- Look4Truth, on 11/23/2007, -4/+10They need to investigate much more than just dust. Those NWO fools have blood on their hands.
- clark24, on 11/23/2007, -2/+2I'll preface my comment by saying that I don't like or support Giulani. So with that out of the way, the number of Democrats surveyed outnumbered Republicans almost 2 to 1 and the sampling was only 600 people. It's hardly accurate to extrapolate the opinions of 600 people to that of the 19 million people in the NYC metropolitan area.
- imgstacke, on 11/23/2007, -0/+870% of the First Responders to the crime of 9/11 are dead or dying - Right Now! You would think they would get to the bottom of it, but since the MSM can't talk about 9/11 without having the evil monkey point at them, they never will.
Our hero's are dying, and you fools are protecting the criminals by enacting willful ignorance, because its too emotionally difficult for you.- laobao, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1These guys that are dying are the same guys that were told to shut the fvck up and don't say anything by the Feds.
How about those indestructible black boxes? Shush!
- laobao, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1These guys that are dying are the same guys that were told to shut the fvck up and don't say anything by the Feds.
- unreg, on 11/23/2007, -5/+5Where the ***** do you people come up with this *****?
Go outside, enjoy the crowds of people shopping. Ride a bike. Play with the kids. Watch a game.- Jimmyb207, on 11/24/2007, -1/+3Keep on grazing in the green fields. All is well. The shepherd is looking out for you. All is well. No need to look up from the pasture my friend. Don't worry about the dogs, they look after you and will keep you safe. They will lead you to where you need to be. The sound of steel? Oh...it is nothing. Keep walking down the well trodden path. The dogs will lead you to where you need to be.
- unreg, on 11/24/2007, -0/+0Wow.
- laobao, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1Strange advice coming from the President after the Towers came down, "go shopping." 3000 New Yorkers dead, many more to die in the future from the toxic dust, and you come along and say "enjoy the crowds of people shopping."
1,000,000+ dead Iraqis, depleted uranium guarantees deformed babies for the next eight billion years and you say "ride a bike."
You deserve a beating.
- Jimmyb207, on 11/24/2007, -1/+3Keep on grazing in the green fields. All is well. The shepherd is looking out for you. All is well. No need to look up from the pasture my friend. Don't worry about the dogs, they look after you and will keep you safe. They will lead you to where you need to be. The sound of steel? Oh...it is nothing. Keep walking down the well trodden path. The dogs will lead you to where you need to be.
- vade79, on 11/24/2007, -4/+3See the "Mysterious Explosions" animated thing at the top of the page(when you click on it)...proof "truthers" are insane.
- knobtwiddler, on 11/24/2007, -1/+2straw man.
- empty27, on 11/24/2007, -0/+5***** that prick.
- knobtwiddler, on 11/24/2007, -3/+6i want an investigation into his lies about the CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF WTC7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXUmZugcRXM- knobtwiddler, on 11/24/2007, -3/+4oh and in case you haven't seen how wtc7 REALLY collapsed (not "in stages" and all that nonsense).. watch this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2484037394 ...
obvious, blatent lie!!! giuliani looks like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar in the 'bizarre bldg 7 lie' video.
- knobtwiddler, on 11/24/2007, -3/+4oh and in case you haven't seen how wtc7 REALLY collapsed (not "in stages" and all that nonsense).. watch this:
- NDzImpy, on 11/24/2007, -1/+1Mis-information. I saw no link to any story about Ghoulinai on suspicion/indictment of charges in regards to selling fake/(?) gold dust.
WTF?
Still Ghouliani's a biath! - NDzImpy, on 11/24/2007, -1/+0^^^BIATCH^^^ ??
- mv10, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4and the other 26% are the same morons who approve of President Bush
- CreativeNative, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1All I gotta say that everyone should just watch this new movie...many questions will be answered with facts http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
You will thank me later.- Valmorgan, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1I showed my parents that movie and it completely woke them up and changed thier lives. Highly recommended.
- Valmorgan, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1I showed my parents that movie and it completely woke them up and changed thier lives. Highly recommended.
- lagrange, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2Your masters will not investigate themselves. Nice try.
- BigCheezy, on 11/24/2007, -1/+2Using charged language like "lies" when citing statistics is not intellectually honest. Moreover, I doubt people were asked whether they "want Giuliani's lies about the deadly dust at the WTC" investigated. From the report linked by the article:
4. Do you agree or disagree that the New York Attorney General and Manhattan District Attorney should open an investigation into the major discrepancies and unanswered questions in the official report on September 11, 2001?
A far cry from the reactionary title of this misleading digg post. - MrSlumberjack, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2I can't believe they didn't mention the fact that all the fireproofing on the support beams, which was blasted off by the collapse of the towers, contained asbestos. About thirty years from now, there are gonna be thousands and thousands of people who develop mesothelioma and asbestosis. Look at the 2nd half of this article:
http://www.asbestosnetwork.com/news/nw_020102_nyc_ ... - laobao, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1The air is safe to breath and the water is safe to drink.
There is a century of newspaper waste taking up 30% of the landfill space. Waste disposal bill keep going up but you don't have to worry about the century of mercury/heavy metal toxic dumping of newspapers either. The air is safe to breath and the water is safe to drink.
Main stream media is in bed with the war criminal fascists. Time to make them pay for a cleanup because your kid dying from cancer is not news fit to print. - OilLeaks, on 11/26/2007, -0/+09/11 Information Summaries: For the best, most concise introduction to the 9/11 information, we highly recommend our 9/11 timeline summaries. These fact-filled summaries provide revealing 9/11 information from respected media sources with links direct to the articles on their media websites for easy verification of all information presented.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911information - goldguy1, on 09/25/2008, -0/+0were the people tricked? who would buy building dust thinking it was gold? I think there would be a difference in color.
Giulani try and sell that dust to http://ww.goldfellow.com, good luck!
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