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- alapoet, on 08/22/2008, -10/+105He's in their pocket. "You spy on Americans for me, and I'll make sure you don't have to pay any taxes."
- N000bama, on 08/23/2008, -37/+12
- SpudgeBoy, on 08/23/2008, -7/+14Are you so naive that you have to make up stupid names for everything? Grow up.
- nick1971, on 08/23/2008, -10/+2Dear DIGGER before you DIGG me down please read me before making an informed choice.
So to summarize he who pays the most wins a candidate.
Why not a toll free number 1-800-BUY-VOTE.
All companies and citizens could provide donations.
No more opinions in the media, no more calls from the candidates.
Pure capitalism.
Worked in my country in the 30's and 40's.
Started with a terroist act.
Executive powers were increased because we were scared.
Internment without trial, without recourse to legal process, institutionalization of enhanced interrogation techniques.of
Opening of a detainment camp.
Wars based upon regime change.
Wars based upon resources
OK you need to up the anti
You 1,2 M deaths we 4,5 deaths. I know you the US you can work harder, but don't there is a point in the avalanche where the pebbles don't get to vote any more once the avalanche starts.
I hope you still get to vote and I hope that you vote.
In the mean time I sit in Germany and wish with my whole heart for the country that I admire,worship and love. - sulthernao, on 08/23/2008, -6/+13Obama was a constitutional lawyer, not a trial lawyer.
Teachers unions do care about children's education, and you're naive to think otherwise. Obama devoted a portion to his book, The Audacity of Hope just to the issue of getting backing of unions and how some of his policies (like identifying bad teachers) were hazardous to his ability to get their backing.
The price of oil is almost entirely because of speculation and Bush causing instability in the Middle East. "Eco-nazis" are what we are going to need to be to get off of our need for oil. Think about the national security risk oil is - something happens in the middle east there won't be enough gas to fuel the country. - 5urr3al5am, on 08/23/2008, -3/+2@justdoitrite - I fail to see how that comment was racist?! leave it to a liberal to scream racist. Why not attack what she said and not her personally you ass
- 5urr3al5am, on 08/24/2008, -2/+1@justdoitrite -- get off your parents computer you're not making any sense!
- ISIfunded911, on 08/23/2008, -20/+7No one is more pitiful than a person capable of seeing the truth about one candidate, but refusing to see the truth about another candidate. Do you want to see the truth about Obama? C'mon, both are puppets:
http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Postmodern-Webster-Gri ...
This review is from: Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate (Paperback)
Politicians do the opposite of what they promise more often than not. So before you vote, plug your ears to their speeches, and check what their advisors have been up to...
In "Obama: the Postmodern Coup," Tarpley gets a giant scoop as the first to delve behind the screen into the forces behind Obama: and finds out his handlers are enemies of the people. Zbigniew Brzezinski (instigator of Al-Qaeda and the Afghan-Soviet war) is CEO of the BHO show. On the economy, regressive Skull & Bones and Wall Street figures set the tone. In military affairs, it's Gen. McPeak, the perpetrator of genocidal civilian bombing tactics.
All unawares, the United States slipped into the grip of a soft coup last fall, the Brzezinski faction won over the power elite, and the neo-cons are unlamented lame ducks. Tarpley finds that "Zbig" controls two of the three front runners for the presidency -- Barack Obama and John McCain, but that Obama is the elitist favorite for a "new face" on a doddering empire.
Obama got his entrée as a protegé of "Realpolitiker" Brzezinski. He is scripted to loftily fill the role of pseudo-savior, a key one for the planned hysteria of the "people power" coups, as perfected by Left CIA and NGO traveling circuses in Eastern Europe. Now the recipe is being franchised home to cook America's political process.
Obama's backers make a laundry-list of the elite: the Rockefellers, Rand Corp., Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Chicago School of Economics, Bilderbergers - and the Ford Foundation six ways to Sunday. No wonder the manufactured messiah gets the lion's share of campaign cash from the corporations, and a free ride from their wholly owned media.
Tarpley ought to be dean of social sciences in a prestigious university (if any of them aren't vassals of the robber baron foundations, Rockefeller and Ford). I happen to have a poli sci degree, but almost all of "Postmodern Coup" was new to me, for example:
- American history is marked by cycles or "party realignments" of about 36 or 40 years, such as FDR's 1932 landslide or the upheavals of 1968. A few power cult strategists like Samuel Huntington know this. Under Brzezinski-Carter, they began planning ahead to subvert the cycle shift we are in now, first by the "War on Terror," now with the synthetic, pseudo-leftist Obama movement, to set the nation on a course they will determine until around 2050.
- The Democrats repeatedly nominate foregone losers with their caucus system, tilted towards "Volvo-driving" Democrats who decide the primaries in red states, which the Dems never win in the GE. Obama continues this quaint tradition of "square-wheelers" which won't play in Peoria, like Mondale, Dukakis, McGovern etc.
- How to recognize fascism in the bud? It doesn't start as a right-wing, top-down system. First it needs to gather strength from grass roots. Usually it spawns as a youth movement, often left-tinged, idealist, mystical, with stirring slogans, euphoria, and a theme of national unity and regeneration. Not so unlike "Obamania." Mussolini got his start as a leftist, socialist politico.
- Why does Obama want to attack Pakistan, the world's 6th largest country, with almost 3 times more people than Iran, and 6 times more than Iraq? It's a Chinese ally, and to get at Russia, Brzezinski wants to isolate China, forcing it to attack Russia to get oil. A madcap gambit, that can only play the US into an even tighter corner.
"Postmodern Coup" is a book with a mission -- to stave off the looming world-historical tragedy that Tarpley foresees. Yet it's about much more than "Manchurian candidate" Obama, or even Brzezinski and his earlier puppet, Jimmy Carter. Historian Tarpley draws on an unparalleled store of erudition, past precedents and inside knowledge of today's political players, and distills it here for our up-to-the-minute situation.
This book is a crash course in the essentials you need to know about US and world politics, but the media never wanted you to.- poet, on 08/23/2008, -4/+3As I say. If you vote for McCain you are an ignorant fossil. If you vote for Obama you are a blind fool.
I wonder how many unintelligent kids are going to post "TLDNR" because they have no idea what's really going on in America at the moment. - Bennessy, on 08/23/2008, -2/+3Why are there so many conspiracy nuts on Digg? Can't we do something to stop this idiocy? On every political article, some idiot tries to prove how stupid people can be.
- poet, on 08/23/2008, -4/+3As I say. If you vote for McCain you are an ignorant fossil. If you vote for Obama you are a blind fool.
- MorganMghee, on 08/23/2008, -3/+12McCain has been buddies with communications/media for a while: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/022308C.shtml
- macsox, on 08/23/2008, -4/+2Best encapsulation of this I've seen is here:
theworstcandidate.com - 5urr3al5am, on 08/23/2008, -12/+3I can sum up Obama's loss in one word "inexperience".
Think about this logically for a second. In the year 2000, when George W Bush took office, what was Obama doing? What was McCain doing?
2000- Obama had served our country via a political career at that point as a state legislator, which totaled a measly 3 years -- the state legislator! McCain had been in the house and Senate for almost 18 years, prior to that had served in the military from 1958–1981, 23 years!
2004- Then after four more years of GWB, Obama had continued to work as a legislator, from 1997-2004, for a total 7 years and became a brand new senator. McCain added on 4 more years as a Senator and disagreed with GWB on several matters.
2007 (Presidential Campain) - Obama had worked in the Senate for a total of 3 years. McCain added 3 more as well, giving him a total of 25 years (house and senate).- reklesgemini, on 08/24/2008, -1/+1McCain's experience is a joke. He doesn't know a Shia from a Sunni, doesn't know that Iran and Al-Qaida are enemies, and thought it would be a good idea to lower the prime rate to zero until he saw everyone's jaw hitting the floor and he had to admit he doesn't know anything about the economy.
McCain has become just as much of a neocon as Bush. If you're happy with endless war with no definition of victory, and futher tax cuts for the rich while the defict grows out of control, be my guest and vote for McCain. Do you realize the average tax payer paid $1,000 just to service our current debt this year?
This is coming from a replublican turned dem. - 5urr3al5am, on 08/24/2008, -1/+1@justdoitrite and reklesgemini -- just repeating more of the liberal garabe on this site? I expect better than that.
It's great! The comments you get when you point out the truth!
Maybe Biden should run as President, he's at least got some experience. - reklesgemini, on 08/24/2008, -1/+1that was a real informative response.
be happy there isn't an IQ requirement for voting.
- reklesgemini, on 08/24/2008, -1/+1McCain's experience is a joke. He doesn't know a Shia from a Sunni, doesn't know that Iran and Al-Qaida are enemies, and thought it would be a good idea to lower the prime rate to zero until he saw everyone's jaw hitting the floor and he had to admit he doesn't know anything about the economy.
- QuadZeroRoute, on 08/23/2008, -9/+5Took me 60 seconds. Google: ethanol obama lobbyist. I am from Illinois and we all know around here that the magic Obama is an Ethanol lobbyist and we all know that even though ethanol is ***** up compared to nuclear, wind and solar....Obama a is going to ***** with us on this.
Is Obama a Shill for the Ethanol Lobby?
http://digg.com/environment/Is_Obama_a_Shill_for_t ...
Is Obama an Ethanol Lobbyist?
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/energy-blog/1832-isob ...
Obama opposes lobbyists? That’s just … cornpone!
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/23/obama-oppose ...
Obama Campaign Closely Linked With Ethanol Lobbyist Daschle
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_Campaign_C ...
Obama aide wooed by ethanol lobby
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9ea8ce7e-64e1-11dd-af61- ...
- N000bama, on 08/23/2008, -37/+12
- neognostic, on 08/22/2008, -7/+62He still has 135 lobbyist working on the campaign.
- jeffhansen, on 08/23/2008, -0/+5Lobbyist is the #1 career option for ex-Congressmen.
We have the best government money can buy.- pintomp3, on 08/23/2008, -0/+4we took down the revolving door between corporations and our government. we replaced it with a grand archway.
- jabberwolf, on 08/23/2008, -6/+4BAMA FUNDRAISER NUMBERS:
38 Members of law firms that lobby in Washington
31 Partners
10 Former federal lobbyists
6 Manage lobbyists
$3.5 million Minimum the lawyers pledged to raise
$138 million Lobbying fees earned last year by their firms or subsidiaries - QuadZeroRoute, on 08/23/2008, -9/+2Took me 60 seconds. Google: ethanol obama lobbyist. I am from Illinois and we all know around here that the magic Obama is an Ethanol lobbyist and we all know that even though ethanol is ***** up compared to nuclear, wind and solar....Obama a is going to ***** with us on this.
Is Obama a Shill for the Ethanol Lobby?
http://digg.com/environment/Is_Obama_a_Shill_for_t ...
Is Obama an Ethanol Lobbyist?
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/energy-blog/1832-isob ...
Obama opposes lobbyists? That’s just … cornpone!
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/23/obama-oppose ...
Obama Campaign Closely Linked With Ethanol Lobbyist Daschle
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_Campaign_C ...
Obama aide wooed by ethanol lobby
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9ea8ce7e-64e1-11dd-af61- ...
- jeffhansen, on 08/23/2008, -0/+5Lobbyist is the #1 career option for ex-Congressmen.
- meese, on 08/22/2008, -8/+71Here's a nice website that tell you about McCain's lobbyists:
http://www.mccainslobbyists.com/- CandidateZero, on 08/23/2008, -10/+3That URL is surprisingly straight-forward.
Now here is a site that tells you all about the socks owned by me:
http://www.AllAboutTheSocksOwnedByMe.com/- rowjimmy, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2am i the only person that clicked that link, and was disappointed to see the page load error?
- CandidateZero, on 08/23/2008, -10/+3That URL is surprisingly straight-forward.
- PolishLogic, on 08/22/2008, -43/+35Thankfully, Obama has no ties with lobbyists at all , either on staff or from contributions....oh wait....
- mrsteveman1, on 08/23/2008, -9/+21Except Obamas position on issues such as net neutrality are polar opposites of McCains so it would appear that either lobbyists from this industry don't work for the Obama campaign or he isn't giving them whatever they want (yet, perhaps).
And the immunity thing is already over for the moment, though Obama opposed it to a degree and claims to want to change it once in office.- badqat, on 08/23/2008, -6/+11What's Obama's position on issues such as FISA? And how did he vote on it, telecom immunity included?
- mrsteveman1, on 08/23/2008, -1/+12You ignored what i said apparently. He voted for the bill, reasoning that the majority of the bill was good, and that it likely wouldn't have been possible to get another bill ready quickly, and that he would try to change it once in office.
- nugz85, on 08/23/2008, -8/+1wow mr steveman, you are gullible and naive
- mrsteveman1, on 08/23/2008, -1/+7Not at all, that's what he has said in public. Those are his positions and his viewpoints, not mine, nor did i say i believe him.
- blapierre, on 08/23/2008, -5/+1"He voted for the bill, reasoning that the majority of the bill was good"
I wonder if he also eats the entire blowfish "reasoning that the majority of the fish is good"? - stagmire, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3He voted for FISA because it places restrictions on the president's wiretapping ability. Without FISA the president would have NO RESTRICTIONS.
Funny how many supposed civil libertarians are ready to ignore this point. I gotta wonder where their priorities are. OH NOES WE WON'T GET TO HAVE BIG LAWSUITS THAT WILL DRAG ON FOR TEN YEARS!!! - rowjimmy, on 08/24/2008, -1/+1@stagmire - behind-closed-doors-using-secret-courts-trust-us-we-aren't-violating-your-civil-rights restrictions are no restrictions at all
- Wartyboskfapped, on 08/23/2008, -7/+16Ha ha ha, PolishLogic: always wrong. Check his comment history, folks, there's all you need to know.
If he says something, believe the opposite and you can't go wrong, cos he always does. - elhaf, on 08/23/2008, -3/+8Wait what? It is a known fact that if you are a registered lobbyist and make a contribution to Obama's campaign, he will return it. He has no lobbyists on staff. What are you waiting for, again?
- badqat, on 08/23/2008, -6/+8Obama sure doesn't return money from folks who are known executives of say, evil big oil, now does he?
Anyone who thinks Obama isn't a typical politician who will say and do anything to get elected probably believes in unicorns. - elhaf, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Everyone works somewhere. But if you are a registered lobbyist, he will return your donation.
- badqat, on 08/23/2008, -6/+8Obama sure doesn't return money from folks who are known executives of say, evil big oil, now does he?
- jabberwolf, on 08/23/2008, -6/+6BAMA FUNDRAISER NUMBERS:
38 Members of law firms that lobby in Washington
31 Partners
10 Former federal lobbyists
6 Manage lobbyists
$3.5 million Minimum the lawyers pledged to raise
$138 million Lobbying fees earned last year by their firms or subsidiaries - treehugger87, on 08/23/2008, -3/+2I think we found the first Telecomm lobbyist member on the McCain bury brigade!
- mrsteveman1, on 08/23/2008, -9/+21Except Obamas position on issues such as net neutrality are polar opposites of McCains so it would appear that either lobbyists from this industry don't work for the Obama campaign or he isn't giving them whatever they want (yet, perhaps).
- benintn, on 08/22/2008, -4/+24scary
- annjay, on 08/22/2008, -8/+7you are right!
- OffPiste, on 08/23/2008, -57/+10Just remember four things when you go into the voting booth this November...
1. Barack Hussein Obama let's his own brother starve in Africa when Obama makes millions of dollars and lives in luxury. Family values anyone?
2. Barack Hussein Obama doesn't know when life begins. According to him whose to say life begins at birth let alone conception? Get ready for legal infanticide. Don't like how your baby looks after birth? Go ahead and kill it, Obama supports this, and has voted to allow babies to be killed after they are born.
3. Barack Hussein Obama does not support your right to own a gun and protect your home and family. He believes only the state has the right to protect you and and guns should only belong to the state.
4. Barack Hussein Obama.- DogofWar1, on 08/23/2008, -7/+34Let's clear up a few things, shall we?
1. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/22/bts.obama.b ...
For those who didn't read it, it basically says that Obama's brother is not in as bad of shape as reports have indicated. Though he isn't rich, he isn't destitute.
2. Obama is pro-choice, but has a better anti-abortion strategy than McCain. Obama wants to reduce the number of abortions overall. McCain will either a) do nothing, just like another pro-life Pres. we all know or b) make abortions illegal, which will lead to massive numbers of unsafe procedures and the endangering of thousands of women. Reducing unwanted pregnancies/ increasing help for pregnant women will help reduce the number of abortions.
3. Obama's policy on guns is to ban the transfer and sale of semi-automatic and automatic weaponry, increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms (note how it isn't banning, but just increasing and enforcing restrictions not applied in the current lax system), and to require child-safety locks on guns.
I must admit, I am cherry-picking from an article, so I'll post the whole thing for others to read.
One more quick note on gun ownership. Obama may have supported bans on weapons, but that was from a state/ local law vs. federal law perspective. It was an interpretation of the state's rights vs. federal law system.
Here's the site:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Barack_Obama_Gun_ ...
4. Well, you had some legitimate, though not entirely true, points, but now you have just lost your credibility. Using his name as a reason not to vote for him is rather prejudiced.
Also, I find it telling you could only get through three points before you went to his name.- akchrs, on 08/23/2008, -11/+51. Still obviously has no desire to help family members.
2. Abortion is now a strategy? It's either yes or no.
3 Is a duck/dove hunting shot gun that uses a self regulating gas system a semi automatic weapon murder machine?
4 Why is his name so offensive? - OffPiste, on 08/23/2008, -13/+3"and to require child-safety locks on guns."
Because it's a well known fact that criminals will wait for you to remove said lock before they attack you. - elhaf, on 08/23/2008, -1/+11Is Obama his brother's keeper? And really, do you want a warmonger for president again? If so, please go join the military.
- akchrs, on 08/23/2008, -11/+51. Still obviously has no desire to help family members.
- iPastafarian, on 08/23/2008, -6/+201. And John Sidney McCain cheated on and then divorced his first wife after she was badly injured in a car crash, going on to marry a wealthy heiress. Family values anyone?
- algaeturd, on 08/23/2008, -4/+13You're an uneducated idiot.
You don't care about the truth. You'd rather see this country stay on its present downward trajectory even if it means the end of the United States than vote for Barrack.
Why?
Only you know but you haven't made a logical, reasonable argument here.
So I ask you. Why are you REALLY against Obama even though more of the same could potentially lead to the death of this country?
Really?- OffPiste, on 08/23/2008, -9/+4Thanks!
- Dweller99, on 08/23/2008, -5/+13"Just remember four things when you go into the voting booth this November...
1. Barack Hussein..."
That is as far as I need to get to know your position. Still clinging to that "omg he is a closet muslim!" stuff too? - OffPiste, on 08/23/2008, -8/+13You are an idiot. Your spelling and grammar are simply atrocious.
"1. Barack Hussein Obama let's his own brother starve in Africa when Obama makes millions of dollars and lives in luxury. Family values anyone?"
It is not let's it is lets. Do you know how yo use an apostrophe? They usually teach that in the third grade.
"2. Barack Hussein Obama doesn't know when life begins. According to him whose to say life begins at birth let alone conception? Get ready for legal infanticide. Don't like how your baby looks after birth? Go ahead and kill it, Obama supports this, and has voted to allow babies to be killed after they are born."
whose who's???? Once again you have no idea of the correct usage of an apostrophe.
Please do us all a favor and just STFU. Your ignorance and lack of simple grammar and spelling is appalling.- normlsparky, on 08/24/2008, -1/+1before calling someone an idiot, you should first learn how to hit the correct "reply" link. you know, that little blue colored word at the bottom right of each post that clearly says- Reply? you are an obvious pro-life religious fanatic and a bigot with anal retentive tendencies toward grammar usage. get a life.
- iggy2012, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2woah hold on didn't OffPiste write all that in the first place?
*****!
- Wartyboskfapped, on 08/23/2008, -2/+11Desperate troll is desperate.
Get used to this phrase, piste: President Barack Obama.- OffPiste, on 08/23/2008, -10/+5Naa I'm going to act like the Libtards did for the last seven years, "he's not my president." An Hussein Obama presidency and a Dimm controlled Congress is the best thing for Republicans at this point. I can't wait for the fireworks to begin after the sheeple see what Comrade Hussein has in store for his new Amerika.
- Dweller99, on 08/23/2008, -2/+5"An Hussein Obama presidency and a Dimm controlled Congress"
And here I thought all the LGF trolls left Digg. Guess I was wrong.
- woofers07, on 08/23/2008, -2/+11I can't wait till Barack HUSSEIN Obama is president. Maybe it'll get you rednecks to wanna leave the country either out of fear or hate, either way it's a win. What am I saying, rednecks can't afford to move, damn.
- OffPiste, on 08/23/2008, -8/+3Yep and my redneck vote counts as much as your vote.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!! - revisrev, on 08/24/2008, -0/+6However Piste, your voice is worth far less.
- MacEnvy, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2It's pretty cheap for rednecks to move - just hitch the house up to the truck and you're off.
- OffPiste, on 08/23/2008, -8/+3Yep and my redneck vote counts as much as your vote.
- DogofWar1, on 08/23/2008, -7/+34Let's clear up a few things, shall we?
- algaeturd, on 08/23/2008, -10/+30Obviously, McCainites don't give a ***** about lobbyists. Most of them don't even know what lobbyists do or what lobbying entails. That's left up to those edujamacted peoples.
Seriously, look at the facts. McCain is probably the LEAST qualified person in the history of the United States on paper. In person, he's not much better. That hasn't stopped them from running around talking about him like he's the second coming of Christ. These people DESERVE a McCain administration...lots jobs, more homeless, more big business/corporations getting tax breaks while passing the burden onto the poor and middle class. McCainites are idiots. The last thing you want to do is appeal to their intellectual side because they don't HAVE one.- nittanylion06, on 08/23/2008, -14/+5do YOU even know what a lobbyist really does?
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/23/2008, -19/+5I disagree.
Buried. - OffPiste, on 08/23/2008, -16/+8"Seriously, look at the facts. McCain is probably the LEAST qualified person in the history of the United States on paper."
Why do so many Liberals on Digg always resort to hyperbole? Can't put forth a simple argument based upon facts? - OstrakonX, on 08/23/2008, -7/+6"Seriously, look at the facts. McCain is probably the LEAST qualified person in the history of the United States on paper."
Uh, I don't know about that. He's pretty damn unqualified, but I don't know about the -least- qualified in history. - OstrakonX, on 08/23/2008, -9/+12"Why do so many Liberals on Digg always resort to hyperbole? Can't put forth a simple argument based upon facts?"
And resorting to generalization makes you any better?
- grungegbunny, on 08/23/2008, -5/+46Goddamn can McCain suckass any worse than he does?
Seems like it.- gubatron2, on 08/23/2008, -4/+2It's almost like they can't put up a good believable show for this elections. It's obvious that everything has already been chosen by those who pull the chords.
This time around they'll have fun with the black guy, and make everyone believe in freedom again, etc.etc.
This elections are *****. It's all been pre-arranged for Obama to win, McCain can't suck more ass. An oponent that's booed by his own party...
Prepare to get taxed up to the last penny now, holly ***** I'm scared of 2009 enjoy while it lasts.
- gubatron2, on 08/23/2008, -4/+2It's almost like they can't put up a good believable show for this elections. It's obvious that everything has already been chosen by those who pull the chords.
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 08/23/2008, -5/+64Now we know why he opposes Net Neutrality
- samtpage, on 08/23/2008, -1/+20Well, it certainly isn't because he understands it.
- connieLingus, on 08/23/2008, -15/+4it's a well known fact that large corporations give equally to both political parties because they can't afford to be left out of the loop in case either side wins, so i am sure that these "telecoms" are just as invested in The Chosen One.
- MorganMghee, on 08/23/2008, -0/+6from opensecrets.org:
Telephone Utilities '08 Dems $2,904,185 Reps $3,664,161 Dems 44% Reps 56%
Telcom Svcs&Equip '08 Dems $3,921,905 Reps $2,420,570 Dems 62% Reps 38%- connieLingus, on 08/23/2008, -2/+2well there u go then...surprise surprise
- MorganMghee, on 08/23/2008, -0/+6from opensecrets.org:
- rex84, on 08/23/2008, -32/+27“I am a Zionist, you don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.”
-Sen. Joe Biden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE- quaxon, on 08/23/2008, -17/+8Not my submission, but everyone should see this, i can't believe anyone truly thinks obama stands for real change.
http://digg.com/politics/JOE_BIDEN_I_am_a_ZIONIST- xedd, on 08/23/2008, -1/+10I'd rather have Obama's "change" than have McCain win, and then suffer through more of the same crap we've had for the last 8 years.
Screw the GOP, and WHOEVER they nominate.
Getting the GOP out of power is change enough.
- xedd, on 08/23/2008, -1/+10I'd rather have Obama's "change" than have McCain win, and then suffer through more of the same crap we've had for the last 8 years.
- MorganMghee, on 08/23/2008, -9/+2Mr Biden needs to do some perspective checking:
I had given up on finding an American with a moral conscience and the courage to go with it and was on the verge of retiring my keyboard when I met the Rev. Thomas L. Are.
Rev. Are is a Presbyterian pastor who used to tell his Atlanta, Georgia, congregation: “I am a Zionist.” Like most Americans, Rev. Are had been seduced by Israeli propaganda and helped to spread the propaganda among his congregation.
Around 1990 Rev. Are had an awakening for which he credits the Christian Canon of St. George’s Cathedral in Jerusalem and author Marc Ellis, co-editor of the book, Beyond Occupation.
Realizing that his ignorance of the situation on the ground had made him complicit in great crimes, Rev. Are wrote a book hoping to save others from his mistake and perhaps in part to make amends, Israeli Peace Palestinian Justice, published in Canada in 1994.
Rev. Are researched his subject and wrote a brave book. Keep in mind that 1994 was long prior to Walt and Mearsheimer’s recent book, which exposed the power of the Israel Lobby and its ability to control the explanation Americans receive about the “Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”
Rev. Are begins with an account of Israel’s opening attack on the Palestinians, an event which took place before most Americans alive today were born. He quotes the distinguished British historian, Arnold J. Toynbee: “The treatment of the Palestinian Arabs in 1947 (and 1948) was as morally indefensible as the slaughter of six million Jews by the Nazis. Though nor comparable in quantity to the crimes of the Nazis, it was comparable in quality.”
Golda Meir, considered by Israelis as a great leader and by others as one of history’s great killers, disputed the facts: “It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.”
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts07252008.html- kbear1, on 08/23/2008, -0/+2I'm a Leo.
- elhaf, on 08/23/2008, -5/+15This has *****-all to do with McCain and lobbyists. Buried.
- zeroeffect, on 08/23/2008, -1/+13Typical redirection by the Republicans... let's talk about the lobbyists working for McCain.
"In the 21st Century, nations don't invade other nations" -John McCain - pintomp3, on 08/23/2008, -0/+5all the candidates are, check out how they are ranked. mccain is rated pretty high:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerPage.jhtm ...- rex84, on 08/23/2008, -0/+2Agreed, it's a pretty sad state of affairs.
- poxonyou, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2Welcome to American politics. Almost everyone, with a few exceptions, has to suck up to Israel.
Want someone different with a chance in hell of actually being elected?
Well, we need to work to strengthen pro-Arab or pro-Palestinian groups, or non-Zionist Jewish organizations. Until then, AIPAC and the other powerful pro-Israel lobbies run the show. - SkinnerBox, on 08/24/2008, -1/+4Well, that's it. Obama will let all of the Muslims take over, and then Biden will let all of the Jews take over. There won't be any full-blooded Americans left.
- quaxon, on 08/23/2008, -17/+8Not my submission, but everyone should see this, i can't believe anyone truly thinks obama stands for real change.
- duckyinc, on 08/23/2008, -8/+4That guy has the force on his side o.0, time to give up
- H0tKarl, on 08/23/2008, -19/+9(insert generic anti-McCain propoganda comment here)
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1Nah, no need to insert generic propoganda.
McCain's campaign staff is run by "former" telecom lobbyists. There has already been quite a few that have resigned once being outed by the press. And in each instance, the campaign tries to claim they are "former" lobbyists, as if everyone's dumb enough to think that Dick Cheney is a "former" halliburton CEO, or how Jack Sheehan, the Senior Vice President for Bechtel Group's Middle East Operations was appointed to Donald Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board, and even though he is still currently the SVP for Bechtel, there is no conflict of interest going on.
The revolving door between the corporations making money off of government contracts and the positions that award those contracts has to stop. In McCain's case, the revolving door between corporations who can profit from favorable legislation and the positions that can influence those laws in their favor has to end.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1Nah, no need to insert generic propoganda.
- SaperKain, on 08/23/2008, -5/+33You damn kids get off my lawns! All 7 of them.
- gubatron2, on 08/23/2008, -0/+6or wait, or is it 8? *****, I can't remember how many lawns I have
- stubarwick, on 08/23/2008, -3/+29I find it strange that we have a need for 60 telecom lobbyists in the first place... seriously that is a lot of people lobbying for a single industry
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/23/2008, -13/+4Planned Parenthood probably has twice that many.
- xtinamo, on 08/23/2008, -1/+11And?? How do the two even compare? Don't get me wrong, I think our government should and can function without lobbyists, but if there ever was such a thing as a "good" lobbyist, Planned Parenthood would be one. A nonprofit organization making birth control easily available to low-income individuals does not exactly behave the same as those looking to pay off politicians for profit and immunity.
- treehugger87, on 08/23/2008, -1/+4Maybe true, but at least the Planned Parenthood lobbyists represents a real social issue that effects people's lives. The telecom industry is just spending their money in order to try and make more money.
I know from your numerous other posts that in your distorted view that this is a good thing for capitalism, but being able to BUY politicians to benefit your profits has to be the worst possible thing for capitalism.
- MorganMghee, on 08/23/2008, -1/+16Corporations shouldn't have lobbyists at all, that is a right given to voting citizens. The ones with ties to the country and the neighborhood. The ones who's kids will be buying the products, and living with the consequences. Take away the lobby rights of corporations!
- prahareturns, on 08/23/2008, -3/+0Should we also take away the right of unions to lobby? Should investors and everyone who has a 401k which invests in these corporations also lose the right to lobby for what's best for their investments?
I'm not debating the fact that congress (both Democrats and Republicans) are corrupted by lobbyist but cherry picking who has the right to lobby for their interest is equally as bad, if not worse.
Don't forget that large corporations employee millions of US workers and we depend upon their future success for our jobs and livelihood. - pintomp3, on 08/23/2008, -1/+5they claim lobbying is a first amendment right. i wasn't aware bribery was a form of speech.
- MorganMghee, on 08/23/2008, -0/+4Those people have a right to lobby, or to pay a lobbyist on their behalf. Ask an employee if they know what their industries lobbyists are pushing for, most of them won't have a clue. That does not equal a voting citizen employing a lobbyist.
- prahareturns, on 08/24/2008, -1/+0So I guess its ok for unions to bribe politicians but not companies as an entity. Since executives work for corporations is it acceptable that management and executives pay lobbyist on behalf of their industry as tax payers? I guess we could also dictate which views lobbyist can promote.
- prahareturns, on 08/23/2008, -3/+0Should we also take away the right of unions to lobby? Should investors and everyone who has a 401k which invests in these corporations also lose the right to lobby for what's best for their investments?
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/23/2008, -13/+4Planned Parenthood probably has twice that many.
- everybodynose, on 08/23/2008, -3/+19Guess that explains why some didn't get the 'vp' text msg.
- junkwheel, on 08/23/2008, -6/+36McCain: Absolutely guaranteed to be Bush or worse for 4 more years.
- springerlicious, on 08/23/2008, -20/+10What a suprise. More anti-McCain propaganda on Digg.
- xedd, on 08/23/2008, -1/+11Awww.
Somebody call the wambulance.- rdoger6424, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1Dial 1-800-922-222, That's 1-800-WAAAAAA.
- MorganMghee, on 08/23/2008, -1/+8If he hadn't built a lot of his reputation on being against lobbying and for campaign reform, it MIGHT be propaganda. But since he did, and there's this:http://www.truthout.org/article/mccain-disputed-19 ... it isn't.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1springerlicious, wouldn't the world be such a better place if everyone just fell in line with your belief system?
I know of a lot of people in history who thought that way.
We call them authoritarian or mad men.- rowjimmy, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2unless they win, and then we call them dear leader
- xedd, on 08/23/2008, -1/+11Awww.
- N000bama, on 08/23/2008, -28/+9
- Dumbledorito, on 08/23/2008, -3/+11You favor the industry that wants to listen to your every call for the NSA, read every e-mail for the NSA, charges you out the wazoo for services that cost them less than a penny, wants to control exacty who you buy your hardware from and what you can do with it, and has customer service that makes being an unwilling BDSM victim seem like a visit to a health spa?
Union participation in this country is lower than Bush's approval rating. Which one do you think will negatively impact your life more?- QuadZeroRoute, on 08/23/2008, -7/+2Dumbledorito we have to have in place a system that can track every liberal be they Socialist or Marxist so that when the time comes to put them to death we know what there crimes are and where they are.
/sarcasm.... - blackbamboo, on 08/23/2008, -6/+1obama will
- QuadZeroRoute, on 08/23/2008, -7/+2Dumbledorito we have to have in place a system that can track every liberal be they Socialist or Marxist so that when the time comes to put them to death we know what there crimes are and where they are.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3dumb ass. If you think we are still in a capitalist system, you haven't been paying attention.
This is corporatism.
And, the dopey liberals aren't supporting a "marxist", either. You are wayyy behind the times, what are you? 85 year's old?
Both candidates are supporting the same corporatist system. Capitalism and socialism and communism are long gone ideas. If you still measure yourself and the people you disagree with on those standards, no wonder you are confused and angry.- rowjimmy, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2minus the "69" at the end of your name (what are you, 12?) you're spot on. the media, etc has got the people bamboozled thinking "libtard" or "repug" when - on 99% of economic policy - both major parties are exactly the same, supporting corporate nepotism. sure these "divisive" issues are important [reproductive rights, civil rights, etc] but it's a little too convenient that so long as i can remember, that's all that any election is about. no question of, "what about the corporate buy-out of our government?" - shh shh, what about which candidate loves jesus more?!
- PhilLesh69, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1rowjimmy, the 69 wasn't an atttempt at sexual innuendo. Where's your mind at?? ;)
It's the year I was born. It's an easy to remember number when I try to register as PhilLesh and find it already taken.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3Here, nooobama, this might enlighten you.
Corporatism is also used to describe a condition of corporate-dominated globalization. Points enumerated by users of the term in this sense include the prevalence of very large, multinational corporations that freely move operations around the world in response to corporate, rather than public, needs; the push by the corporate world to introduce legislation and treaties which would restrict the abilities of individual nations to restrict corporate activity; and similar measures to allow corporations to sue nations over "restrictive" policies, such as a nation's environmental regulations that would restrict corporate activities.
In the United States, corporations representing many different sectors are involved in attempts to influence legislation through lobbying including many non-business groups, unions, membership organizations, and non-profits. While these groups have no official membership in any legislative body, they can often wield considerable power over law-makers. In recent times, the profusion of lobby groups and the increase in campaign contributions has led to widespread controversy and the McCain-Feingold Act.
Many critics of free market theories, such as George Orwell[verification needed], have argued that corporatism (in the sense of an economic system dominated by massive corporations) is the natural result of free market capitalism.
Critics of capitalism often argue that any form of capitalism would eventually devolve into corporatism, due to the concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands. A permutation of this term is corporate globalism. John Ralston Saul argues that most Western societies are best described as corporatist states, run by a small elite of professional and interest groups, that exclude political participation from the citizenry.
Other critics say that they are pro-capitalist, but anti-corporatist. They support capitalism but only when corporate power is separated from state power. These critics can be from both the right and the left.
I'm sure you stopped reading somewhere in the third or fourth paragraph, due to cognitive dissonance and an aversion to any anti-capitalist thoughts. But the final paragraph is the one that you really should read, once you understand the greater concept contained in the entire block of text.
- Dumbledorito, on 08/23/2008, -3/+11You favor the industry that wants to listen to your every call for the NSA, read every e-mail for the NSA, charges you out the wazoo for services that cost them less than a penny, wants to control exacty who you buy your hardware from and what you can do with it, and has customer service that makes being an unwilling BDSM victim seem like a visit to a health spa?
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/23/2008, -23/+7You would think that today would be the day when the One and his cult..um supporters would spend the day praising the anointed one's choice of VP.
Could it be that they know Barry proved just how much of a rookie he is?
BTW, given who the VP pick is I think you might want to lay off the lobbyist thing.- rationalbeats, on 08/23/2008, -3/+17Go away McCain campaign troll. You are a disgrace to your parents, and a disgrace to humanity.
- springerlicious, on 08/23/2008, -8/+6You're calling this dude a troll? The majority of you pro-Obama dudes are trolls. YOU, my friend, are the true disgrace to humanity...
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/23/2008, -9/+5What springer said.
Btw, "rational"beats, stop stalking me. Thanks. Your opinion means nothing to me. I'm sorry, it just doesn't. So when you follow me around and tell me to go away it only makes you look pathetic. Really. I'm worried about your self-esteem.
Okay? Good. - jakereilly, on 08/23/2008, -1/+5You would think that on the day McSame's opponent chose his VP, his cult... um supporters would spend the day doing something productive and intelligent.
But then we all remember that they support mccain, and thus cannot possibly do any sorts of those types of things.
Could it be that everyone knows how corrupt mccain is?
BTW, given how much of a crook mccain is, we really shouldnt lay off the lobbyist thing.
- MorganMghee, on 08/23/2008, -1/+4I think we're all capable of keeping track of at least a few things at a time. I know, they've thrown out crap about pins, and shoes and arugula - we'll let those things go. But an anti-lobby candidate employing 60 telecom lobbyists after being one of only few to SKIP THE FISA VOTE, well, we're gonna keep that on the 'things to keep track of' list. K?
- JenniferInMO, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1You really need to detox. You have been trolling and spewing your anger so much you are going to explode.
- rationalbeats, on 08/23/2008, -3/+17Go away McCain campaign troll. You are a disgrace to your parents, and a disgrace to humanity.
- springerlicious, on 08/23/2008, -18/+12All this anti-McCain rhetoric on Digg makes me want to vote for McCain out of spite ... it's ridiculous.
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/23/2008, -6/+6DO IT! It's about 40% of the reason I'm doing it.
- ScienceDoc, on 08/23/2008, -6/+5You can leave any time. Google Rush Limbaugh.
- springerlicious, on 08/23/2008, -1/+1I can't stand Rush...
- MorganMghee, on 08/23/2008, -5/+6Talking about his $500+ dollar Italian shoes is stupid (tho, in context, relevant because he complained that Obama worried about arugula), discussing the people working for his campaign is exactly what people evaluating candidates SHOULD be doing. In this case, McCain has built a lot of his reputation on 'Saying' he is against lobbyists, the fact that he has them working for his campaign at all is noteworthy and in light of the Paxson/FCC SNAFU it is critical that people are informed and discussing the matter. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/022308C.shtml
- xedd, on 08/23/2008, -2/+3"vote for McCain out of spite"
Well that might be the best reason to vote for him, because ALL the rest of the reasons SUCK. - rowjimmy, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1so you don't think it is important that a candidate who has staked his career on being against lobbyists/being for campaign finance reform has a well-documented revolving door to K street in his own potential administration?
- Rixar13, on 08/23/2008, -12/+20Obama - Biden 2008.
- gubatron2, on 08/23/2008, -7/+4Obama - Biden - Laden 2008
- jayscot, on 08/23/2008, -18/+18...and Obama is any better? You guys really need to try a little harder.
- elhaf, on 08/23/2008, -3/+5Uh, yes. He doesn't take contributions from lobbyists. Period. He returns them.
- QuadZeroRoute, on 08/23/2008, -3/+4I guess that would explain why he is in the pocket of Ethanol lobbyists? Took me 60 seconds. Google: ethanol obama lobbyist. I am from Illinois and we all know around here that the magic Obama is an Ethanol lobbyist and we all know that even though ethanol is ***** up compared to nuclear, wind and solar....Obama a is going to ***** with us on this.
Is Obama a Shill for the Ethanol Lobby?
http://digg.com/environment/Is_Obama_a_Shill_for_t ...
Is Obama an Ethanol Lobbyist?
http://www.jbs.org/index.php/energy-blog/1832-isob ...
Obama opposes lobbyists? That’s just … cornpone!
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/23/obama-oppose ...
Obama Campaign Closely Linked With Ethanol Lobbyist Daschle
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_Campaign_C ...
Obama aide wooed by ethanol lobby
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9ea8ce7e-64e1-11dd-af61- ... - FairDinkumMate, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1STOP SPAMMING QUAD.
If you're too stupid to make your point in 1 post, what makes you think it'll be more effective if you spam the same post throughout?
MORON
- QuadZeroRoute, on 08/23/2008, -3/+4I guess that would explain why he is in the pocket of Ethanol lobbyists? Took me 60 seconds. Google: ethanol obama lobbyist. I am from Illinois and we all know around here that the magic Obama is an Ethanol lobbyist and we all know that even though ethanol is ***** up compared to nuclear, wind and solar....Obama a is going to ***** with us on this.
- elhaf, on 08/23/2008, -3/+5Uh, yes. He doesn't take contributions from lobbyists. Period. He returns them.
- makemoneynotart, on 08/23/2008, -3/+24Why are there people supporting McCain on this simple fact? WTF is wrong with you people? Do you really want your internet and privacy laws made by these people?
Just asking.- jakereilly, on 08/23/2008, -1/+6I ask that everyday. They think the "free market" will solve net neutrality, too. I'd love for them to show me this "free market" because I sure as hell have never seen it.Maybe it is where those damn unicorns are hiding. With bigfoot. And mccains brains.
- prahareturns, on 08/23/2008, -2/+0By "these people" you are referring to the Democrat controlled congress correct? Congress is the legislative branch which has the power to create, amend and ratify laws.
Congress is the primary reason we are in the situation we are in. The Republican controlled congress started the spending party and the Democrats are following in their footsteps. Both parties are not working for the interest of the American people. They are more concerned with maintaining control, gaining power, and obfuscating the truth then doing the right thing.
Neither Obama nor McCain will change Washington. Obama made it very clear that it's politics as usual by selecting Biden. Our only hope is to change congress.
- themadness, on 08/23/2008, -7/+22If you vote for McCain you're STUPID.
Please Americans - show the world you're NOT stupid (GW has done more damage than good and succeeded to a large degree to make Americans look stupid - WHICH THEY ARE NOT!) and vote for Obama. Planet Earth will turn into a battleground if McCain takes control. You know it. He's an old man with a chip on his shoulder and Obama is the very breath of fresh air the US needs.
Please, let's be realistic about it all.- blackbamboo, on 08/23/2008, -9/+3Obama smokes so how can he be a breath of fresh air? Wouldn't that make him a breath of second hand smoke?
- themadness, on 08/23/2008, -2/+7Exactly the reason why the US is doomed, my friend, because of ppl like you and the ones digging me down ;)
- prahareturns, on 08/23/2008, -1/+1If you actually believe that "change" will come with Obama then be prepared for disappointment. Congress has not changed and they are the source of power. As long as we have career politicians in congress nothing will ever change. We need term limits in congress and prevent our congressional leaders from lobbying after they leave office. Members of congress are no longer serving the American people and Obama cannot change that.
- rowjimmy, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1but, but... the unicorns :`(
*dugg*
- rowjimmy, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1but, but... the unicorns :`(
- Psi57, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3The people who will vote for McCain aren't on the Internets.
- blackbamboo, on 08/23/2008, -9/+3Obama smokes so how can he be a breath of fresh air? Wouldn't that make him a breath of second hand smoke?
- jinxation, on 08/23/2008, -10/+5For the record, neither of these guys deserve the position. Oh, and what about obama and the fisa bill? He said he was voting no, but that was before he got rid of billary. What point are you making, oh digg poster?
- thereisnostate, on 08/23/2008, -6/+14How many Americans voted for McCain in the primaries again. Oh yeah, millions. A government is only as good as its people. This is why America is *****.
- browntiger, on 08/23/2008, -7/+16We don't call him McSame for no reason. Same failed policy same old foggie.
- Number23, on 08/23/2008, -8/+4Thank Xenu for the democratic party, they would never have a gray haired, angry, loud mouth, decades serving, Washington insider on their ticket.
What's that...? Oh, ok....
Well, they'd never nominate a gray haired, grumpy, Vietnam vet, Senator who's first marriage field and then married a wealthy heiress who owns multiple homes.
...What? They did?- jakereilly, on 08/23/2008, -1/+3What the hell are you talking about? This is about mcloser and his lobbyist-run campaign. Stop with the anti-democrat *****.
- straats, on 08/23/2008, -2/+9Part of the straight talk express, just like Bush...
For a list of all McCain lies, go to www.peacethinktank.org and go to discussion group. - santaliqueur, on 08/23/2008, -2/+5"Campain"?
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2well, you have to admit, McCain's campaign has been quite painful for outside observers.
- Terisita, on 08/23/2008, -0/+10I find it strange that we have a need for 60 telecom lobbyists in the first place... seriously that is a lot of people lobbying for a single industry.
I do not think McCain remembers he has lobbyists. - dildoolielly, on 08/23/2008, -0/+16
Ok, heres the quick of it.
John's wife, Carol, who was loyal to John all those months he was held in captivity, was in a bad car accident (went through the windshield). John said because of the accident, Carol was now two inches shorter and that she had gained a lot of weight. Not too long after this John met Cindy Hensley at a party in Hawaii. Cindy was an Heiress to the Anheiser-Bush alcohol fortune. There was an age difference. When Cindy was born, John was old enough to drink. So Cindy became John's mistress. After about a year of infidelity John McCain divorced crippled Carol and married Cindy.
Cindy's father was wealthy and this helped finance John's entry into politics in 1982. Cindy kept the books while John got caught up in the Charles Keating scandal. When the Gov't investigated Keating, John tried to stop the investigations with his political power. Cindy McCain conveniently lost records on the books which would have indited John.
Around 1989 Cindy McCain began a 3 year addiction to the prescription opiates Vicadone and Percocet. During the first year of Cindy's addiction, her children were ages five, three, and one.
She was also caught stealing the same drugs from the inventory of a charity she set up. Of course this medication was intended for ill children.
After keeping a somewhat low profile for a few years, Cindy McCain is now on the board of directors of several similar charities as well as the head chair for Anheiser-Bush.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AD4_0i9eGQ
Listen Folks, these people are corporate lobbyist whore shrills. They have no understanding of real family values. Which is why they should never be allowed anywhere near the seat of Gov't.
These psychopaths belong in the Looney bin! - XZanatos, on 08/23/2008, -1/+9He did it all for the "free market". These are the same people who will happily invade other countries and topple governments in the name of freedom and democracy all the while saying that "freedom isn't free". If they think it takes armies and billions of dollars of military support to keep freedom alive elsewhere then how the hell do they think a "free" market can keep going without intervention? Free markets cost as much as all the other types of "freedom isn't free"s to keep free.
Though, I suppose a free market isn't really free when you consider how much corporations have to pay to buy legislation they like.- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3Yeah, it's not really a "free market", it's just a market free from government rules, but only free from the rules that hinder the dominant corporation, but of course the rules that help to keep that corporation dominant are okay, and any rule that makes it impossible for a competitor to threaten the dominating corporation is desirable, as well. Sometimes, it's okay to have rules that give tax breaks to that corporation, or that help to reduce those unnecessary labor costs from those unweildy labor contracts or that eliminate those "old" laws that gave workers all those costly rights and things like pensions or any form of job security.
a free market, as defined by the elite, is really just the freedom to screw everyone else because "a corporation's only responsibility is to provide increased dividends and a return on investment."
But last I checked, the stock market and investments was not what a society was built on. But hey, I stopped drinking the kool-aid 30 years ago, so I'm just not a team player, I guess.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3Yeah, it's not really a "free market", it's just a market free from government rules, but only free from the rules that hinder the dominant corporation, but of course the rules that help to keep that corporation dominant are okay, and any rule that makes it impossible for a competitor to threaten the dominating corporation is desirable, as well. Sometimes, it's okay to have rules that give tax breaks to that corporation, or that help to reduce those unnecessary labor costs from those unweildy labor contracts or that eliminate those "old" laws that gave workers all those costly rights and things like pensions or any form of job security.
- EllipsisAeon, on 08/23/2008, -0/+8I am still amazed that some people are so uninformed that they don't know about McCain's strong ties to some of the most damagin lobbyists in the nation.
- Barackalypse, on 08/23/2008, -0/+3You mean Congress? I agree, they lobby to spend more money and expand the government's power far more than any other special interest group I am aware of.
- AgainstObama, on 08/23/2008, -4/+2I am still amazed that people are still uninformed about Obama.
- Barackalypse, on 08/23/2008, -0/+3You mean Congress? I agree, they lobby to spend more money and expand the government's power far more than any other special interest group I am aware of.
- Barackalypse, on 08/23/2008, -8/+3Wow, you'd think the pro-Obama people wouldn't be making a big deal about telcom related things, given that their man Barack voted for the FISA bill with telcom immunity and all.
- phyr3x, on 08/23/2008, -0/+6A vote for McCain is a vote against net neutrality (which almost all big telecom/internet corporations are opposed to).
- AgainstObama, on 08/23/2008, -10/+1And Obama has 38.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008 ...- jinxation, on 08/23/2008, -0/+7Dead link. BS Comment
- prahareturns, on 08/23/2008, -2/+0http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008 ...
I'd advise being critical of both candidates and not following blindly behind either.
- prahareturns, on 08/23/2008, -2/+0http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008 ...
- jinxation, on 08/23/2008, -0/+7Dead link. BS Comment
- test5477, on 08/23/2008, -1/+10lobbyists are the scum of the earth, worse than lawyers.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1Many lobbyists are lawyers.
scum is scum.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1Many lobbyists are lawyers.
- AgainstObama, on 08/23/2008, -8/+1http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008 ...
- MacLiberal, on 08/23/2008, -1/+6This is why we must work hard to elect Obama, as a Democrat he will work for the people rather than pushing special interests for the rich.
- ClassicCon, on 08/23/2008, -0/+2AAHHHAHAHAHAHAH...good one.
Ask Pelosi, Kennedy, Reid, Gore, Rockefeller, Feinstein, Soros about being rich you idiot. This must be your first election to say something that cliche and childish. - prahareturns, on 08/23/2008, -0/+0Too bad Obama will have to work with congress to get anything accomplished.
- ClassicCon, on 08/23/2008, -0/+2AAHHHAHAHAHAHAH...good one.
- 13373h4X0r, on 08/23/2008, -2/+7Aha! "vexingmodstwo", "PolishLogic", "Barackalypse" "AgainstObama", and "N000bama" are former telecom lobbyists! That explains it!
Seriously... How could those guys defend the Republicans -- and McCain -- after the past eight years?!? I don't know whether or not to hope they ARE being paid to say the crazy things they have been saying. In any case, you guys can reform and help America for a change...
Vote Obama-Biden 2008! - springerlicious, on 08/23/2008, -5/+0Any chance Hillary will run under the Independent party?
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1Nah, she's part of the same two-party system as all the rest of them.
She knows who is running the show, and she will be a good little servant to the masters and hope that she'll get her turn eventually.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1Nah, she's part of the same two-party system as all the rest of them.
- jabberwolf, on 08/23/2008, -5/+213373h4X0r
You ask the question? Take a look at the other choice:
Someone with 3 years Senate experience compared to almost 30.
Someone that went from 200k+ salary to 1.6mil, 900K+, 4 mil, the 3 years he came to Washington !
Someone that was about as vocal as a mouse while in the Senate = probably because he was a junior and inexperienced Senate member.
For GW BUSH, Mccain was more or a problem than Obama ever dreamed of ever being.
Compare economic strategies which most on Wallstreet are scared ***** of Obama's plan. They dont care about politics, they care about the economy going up!
How can you defend voting for the inexperienced and most wrong in EVERY issue Obama? What you're argument is BUSH?
Mccain is no Bush and most everyone knows it!- junaidhaqqi, on 08/23/2008, -0/+1I think we all now by now that if you're going to post anything you need to come up with facts to prove your point. Senator McCain has 21 years experience in the Senate, http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=S0061103 (sorry, the only thing I could find on a whim with his experience), not almost 30. And you are completely WRONG about McCain being a problem for Bush, check http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/28/mccain-voted-w ... (100 percent voted with Bush in 2008, and 95 percent in 2007). And Wall Street being scared ***** of Obama's plan? Really? Maybe you didn't see this, http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/15/wall-street-ob ...
I wouldn't call that *****, or scared for that matter.
And as far as your last comment, again you come with no proof. Just useless barrage of futile non-sense. Seriously, your comment was a waste of space on this page. Please check the facts first then come up with an opinion. I gave you one website to check out. You can Google others. Another one I recommend is http://www.newshounds.us./ This website will give a real fair and balanced look at the politics being played in the election arena this year. Going back to your comment though, these open ended comments with no proof are everyone's waste of time, and that's pretty much describes all the Right-Wing nuts posting on blogs, etc., out there.- junaidhaqqi, on 08/24/2008, -0/+0*CORRECTION*
...and that's pretty much describes all the Right-Wing nuts posting on blogs, etc., "about Obama" out there. - PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1but. but. but. his middle name is hussein!
he's a secret muslim sleeper cell terrorist. And I hear he also likes to eat babies!
I know this, because it must be true. It must be true because I know this!
- junaidhaqqi, on 08/24/2008, -0/+0*CORRECTION*
- junaidhaqqi, on 08/23/2008, -0/+1I think we all now by now that if you're going to post anything you need to come up with facts to prove your point. Senator McCain has 21 years experience in the Senate, http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=S0061103 (sorry, the only thing I could find on a whim with his experience), not almost 30. And you are completely WRONG about McCain being a problem for Bush, check http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/28/mccain-voted-w ... (100 percent voted with Bush in 2008, and 95 percent in 2007). And Wall Street being scared ***** of Obama's plan? Really? Maybe you didn't see this, http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/15/wall-street-ob ...
- richirwin, on 08/23/2008, -7/+2This can't be real.
McCain said that he would have "no lobbyists on [his] campaign."
Plus, he's a POW. That means "prisoner of war" to you, bitches.- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3Yup. He's a POW.
I also met a POW in the drunk tank at the local police station when I got a drunk in public in college.
If McCain said he wouldn't have lobbyists running his campaign, that should be a show stopper:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/137522
Doug Goodyear -- CEO of DCI Group, who received $348,000 in 2002 to represent Burma's military junta, which had been strongly condemned by the State Department for its human-rights record and remains in power today. Justice Department lobbying records show DCI pushed to "begin a dialogue of political reconciliation" with the regime. It also led a PR campaign to burnish the junta's image, drafting releases praising Burma's efforts to curb the drug trade and denouncing "falsehoods" by the Bush administration that the regime engaged in rape and other abuses.
Paul Manafort, who runs a lobbying firm with McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis. The prospect of choosing Manafort created anxiety in the campaign because of his long history of representing controversial foreign clients, including Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos. More recently, he served as chief political consultant to Viktor Yanukovich, the former Ukrainian prime minister who has been widely criticized for alleged corruption and for his close ties to Russia's Vladimir Putin—a potential embarrassment for McCain, who in 2007 called Putin a "totalitarian dictator."
national finance co-chair Tom Loeffler, a former Texas congressman whose lobbying firm has collected nearly $15 million from Saudi Arabia since 2002 and millions more from other foreign and corporate interests, including a French aerospace firm seeking Pentagon contracts. Loeffler last month told a reporter "at no time have I discussed my clients with John McCain." But lobbying disclosure records reviewed by NEWSWEEK show that on May 17, 2006, Loeffler listed meeting McCain along with the Saudi ambassador to "discuss US-Kingdom of Saudi Arabia relations."
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3Yup. He's a POW.
- ClassicCon, on 08/23/2008, -7/+1Yet none of them tried to kill fellow Americans like Obama's friends...
Real Americans...
You kids are going down hard off your Obama high and I could not enjoy it any more. F Digg.- Shadic, on 08/24/2008, -1/+2Oooh! I get it! Obama is only half-white, and he has a funny sounding name, so he MUST be connected to terrorists! Right?
...Right? - reklesgemini, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3The idea that Obama is some sort of secret monster is just absurd. It's not like he just appeared at the beginning of the presidential campaign, he actually has a political history. What did he do, either in Illinois or the senate, that justifies anyone thinking he's anti-American? I'm not talking about flag pins, I'm talking about actual political things that he's done?
I'm not a rabid Obama supporter, I think he's rather timid and not going to make the big kinds of change we really need (universal healthcare, public funding of campaigns), but he's clearly being swift-boated by the right. When you hear wild accusations about his ties to muslim terrorists or whatever, you have to understand that in today's political climate a candidate will have all sorts of wild accusations made against them, and you have to be skeptical.
Remember Bill Clinton? They told all sorts of lies about murders he commited and drugs he sold, and they spend millions of dollars and wasted years investigating him, and they got what? An affair? He sent a couple of Christmas cards with government stamps? It's time to stop being so credulous about wild stories.
Please be more educated.- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1"Please be more educated."
If only it were that easy. If only we could just ask these people politely to have an IQ above 100, the world really would be a better place.
Unfortunately, these people are simply proving that the Bell Curve is accurate.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1"Please be more educated."
- Shadic, on 08/24/2008, -1/+2Oooh! I get it! Obama is only half-white, and he has a funny sounding name, so he MUST be connected to terrorists! Right?
- MrColdheart, on 08/24/2008, -0/+4So if McCain wins the internet is going to die.
- DFutureIsNow, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3Its back to the dark ages, nuclear war, no electricity and no people left to enjoy life.
- DFutureIsNow, on 08/24/2008, -0/+6McCain packaged and sold his soul to special interests
- harris2004, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1There isnt much in him to be sold. he will expire soon. "72".
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