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- pers1an, on 11/12/2008, -9/+179Amen to that. The fact that they managed to narrow this down to 5 concrete reasons is impressive, considering the many more obvious reasons not to elect her...
- Thinkerofthings, on 11/13/2008, -2/+20I betcha can't say dumb five times fast
- mem2, on 11/13/2008, -13/+12RON PAUL 2012 :P
- groo68, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3I hope he doesn't die by then.
- japanesepagoda, on 11/13/2008, -9/+3She has a vagina....
- 15thPD, on 11/13/2008, -2/+3I can attest to that.
Zing! - homercles337, on 11/13/2008, -1/+6I think you mean she has a clown car.
- 15thPD, on 11/13/2008, -2/+3I can attest to that.
- directedition, on 11/13/2008, -1/+15I'm surprised it didn't have "Blatantly unqualified in every way, shape, or form."
- imronburgundy83, on 11/13/2008, -4/+1As the head of the GOP, I'm personally guaranteeing that she will not be our pick in 2012. Now watch this drive: http://www.break.com/index/a-song-for-the-ladies.h ...
- groo68, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4not so much going on upstairs, even McCain didnt want her as a vp.
- RealHyperX, on 11/13/2008, -6/+2How about that the whole African as a country comment was 100% made up by liberal left? Where is that article on Digg?
- ChonoonFiend, on 11/13/2008, -4/+1In upcoming. Saw it there twice. It'll never make front page though, too many people don't want to be proven wrong.
- kahoona1, on 11/13/2008, -0/+8Is that way it appeared on Fox News?
- caramba420, on 11/13/2008, -0/+7* Made up by McCain campaign staff *
There, I fixed it for you - RealHyperX, on 11/13/2008, -5/+1Of course McCain made it up. Obama is hollier than holy, so how could any liberal make that up. LOL!
Nazi Youth Liberals all over again. - caramba420, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Are you ***** retarded or something?
Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain campaign foreign policy advisor, OPENLY ADMITS to being the source of this information. Here's a link to his blog:
http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/11/10/eisensta ...
Go stick your head back in the sand, now.
- MxM111, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2I think #4 should be #1, i.e. Obama already beat her!
- Jareth86, on 11/13/2008, -0/+9We JUST finished 2008. Obama has not even been sworn in yet. I frankly don't give a ***** about her anymore.
- shep99, on 11/13/2008, -1/+1Most of these comments on this whole issue is not worthy of comment and certainly took no brain power to set forth. Clearly to have such inane commenters trying to tell the rest of us that Sarah Palin has no smarts and is not qualified shows how "dumbed down" the electorate has become. (Such comments as "not so much going on upstairs" does not show how Ms Palin is not so smart, but does show that the one making this comment clearly does not have anything going on upstairs.) Surely had such not have been the case Obama would not have been elected. He could not even have come out of Iowa had he not have been packaged and glued to a teleprompter and relay what others told him to. I doubt he has one original thought that has any value as concerns this country...... I have farmed my whole life and I have hired many many men to work for me. I am now 75 and as I have long ago noticed, it is not the man with the greatest and longest term experience that is the best. It comes down to JUDGMENT!!!! along with the ability to evaluate accurately actions taken in the present and how they will affect the future . A President can accumulate around him all the expertise on any matter . BUT his JUDGMENT in picking those experts is crucial, for we all know that garbage in means garbage out. And if we have a Pres that has no ability to decipher good from bad or right course from wrong course, then we have a real problem in the coming years. He does have the final say over this expertise and must use good JUDGMENT!! Obama does not instill any confidence in me at all and in fact of all 4 on the GOP and DEM tickets, I would have taken Sarah Palin in a heartbeat over all the others. As I found out long ago about hired men, if a man has the judgment and ability, in 3 months he will far surpass 40 years of an experienced man that has not that inborn quality.
And I have one question for the people on this site. How does comments like "she has a vagina" and "I betcha can't say dumb five times fast" add to an intelligent discussion. And when the discussion is about intelligence!!!!- Flummoxer, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1Obama doesn't have the "greatest and longest term experience."
- Kiwibomb, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2i'm guessing your trying to make Palin look like she could be more successful then Obama as president. I would just like to know what platforms and ideals of her's you agree with. Because honestly through this whole presidential election season i cant recall a single stance she had on anything. What i do remember from the VP debate is her dancing around questions that were asked and going back to her talking points relaying what others told her to say.
- shep99, on 11/13/2008, -0/+0And have you ever thought why. If you knew a little about what she believes you would know she does not believe everything McCain believes, nor do I for that matter. And from the first it was McCains inept staff that was telling her what she could or could not say or do; who she could talk to etc. I do think that they did not really know the strength of this woman and thought she would not agree with McCain on everything so put a clamp on her. And she has 80 approval rating from the people of Alaska who know here much better then these people on here making completely off the wall statements. My Mother used to say such people had no coherent thoughts and just talked "like a goose firing by moonlight".
- withoutteeth, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1you're 39, not 75. and I doubt you're a farmer living in Carey, OH.
- rjjrdq, on 11/13/2008, -0/+0You can get quite an education in 4 years. Any university will tell you. Obama hasn't taken office yet. Let's see how hungry people are for change in 4 years...
- Surferess, on 11/12/2008, -11/+203Reason Number 6 - She's a wing ding!
- IRAcarbombs, on 11/13/2008, -2/+12#7 - they will still be trying to find the lost Alaskan ballots in 2012, maybe they can just save them and use them for that election *S*
- bisforxbeauty, on 11/13/2008, -3/+9A god damned nutter butter!
- GorfTron, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5And a zing bat.
- eggraid, on 11/13/2008, -1/+17She's a font?
- Andrwmorph, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4#0 - Half the world hates her.
- ORBAT, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2And the other half's never even heard of her.
- PhoenixAvatar2, on 11/13/2008, -1/+14
Edit: Wingding fail.- OptionalPirate, on 11/13/2008, -2/+1#8 - She has the charisma of a Terminator robot with an Alaskan accent.
- ryanknapper, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2More like Comic Sans.
- Leviathan433, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Comic Sans is pretty obnoxious
- callmeminty, on 11/12/2008, -13/+19funny :D
- beerock, on 11/13/2008, -0/+0unless she wins.
booo
- beerock, on 11/13/2008, -0/+0unless she wins.
- redcolumbine, on 11/12/2008, -10/+128#6 (actually #1 in my book) - now that Americans can stop being scared to act like Americans, a candidate whose only advantages were white supremacism, anti-intellectualism, and a hot 455 will be one heck of an embarrassment if she manages to surface again.
- opticwind, on 11/13/2008, -16/+5When did she ever say anything implying white-suprecism?
Listen, I get it. We kindof hate her. But let's hate her for the real things she has done.- mchisari, on 11/13/2008, -1/+25
She quoted a white supremacist and fascist in her RNC speech. That was her introduction in the world, and she chose a deliberate quote from an anti-semitic, pro-Nazi, white supremacist. The quote she used? "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity." Such a throwaway quote could have been written from scratch. But the deliberate use of a quote by Westbrook Pegler says a lot about her political sympathies.
** In 1965, referring to Robert F. Kennedy, Pegler wrote: "Some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies." ** - GawtMilk, on 11/13/2008, -4/+10@mchisari, you suffer from selective perception. Pegler was a journalist and a writer; he was both a facist and an anti-facist during his 70-plus year life. I mean, you cannot refer to Bill Ayers as a generally good guy and refer to Pegler as some incarnate of Hitler. I mean, Ayers is a esteemed Princeton professor. Pegler was a Pulitzer-prize winning journalist.
His "facist" ways that you lambast him for are nothing more than areas influenced by facist thought; in particular using a strong Government to bust corrupt unions.
"Sure, it's facism...but even I, who detests fascism, can see advantages in such fascism."
Ayers was a ***** ***** turned pretty good guy. Pegler was a pretty good guy turned ***** in his later years, partly due to old age [dementia, etc]. To say Palin is a white supremacist because she quoted a white supremacist's completely innocuous phrase is just ***** RIDICULOUS.
** In 1941, referring to winning the highest award in the field of journalism, Pegler said: "Thanks." **
** In 1972, referring to his succesful bombing of the Pentagon, Ayers said: "...the bomb that rocked the Pentagon [...] caused 'tens of thousands of dollars' of damage. **
Look at that! Everyone has a positive and negative side to them. This whole "guilt by association" we saw this election was a huge steaming load of *****. Obama's not a terrorist and Palin's not a white supremacist. Get over your Huffington Post / Fox News biased talking points. - mem2, on 11/13/2008, -0/+7mchisari & GawtMilk, Thankyou for both those very informative comments.
I was unaware of the source of Palins quote (was it deliberate ?, Id like to think perhaps accidental but surely a someone should have checked that *****). - macweirdo42, on 11/13/2008, -0/+9I kinda took that to refer to the fact that many of her supporters were white supremacists, and without those supporters, she wouldn't have had much of a following at all.
Which, I'm not saying that all McCain supporters are white supremacists, but the ones who really got behind Sarah Palin. - Crazyredivan, on 11/13/2008, -1/+9@GawtMilk
Um...I'm not really understanding that crazy tirade, but Ayers is at the University of Illinois at Chicago, not Princeton. - ChonoonFiend, on 11/13/2008, -2/+1I really don't give a ***** who their friends are, just look at their voting records. That's all that matters.
- GawtMilk, on 11/13/2008, -2/+1Ayers and Pegler both have been, at one point in their lives, complete assholes. Ayers because he was blowing up Government buildings, Pegler because he became somewhat anti-Semetic later in life. If Obama supports Ayers' current policies [as a professor at University of Illinois], that doesn't mean he "supports a terrorist" just because he was a terrorist at an earlier point in his life. If Palin quoted Pegler's pre-dementia journalism [which won a Pulitzer Prize], that doesn't make her a white supremacist.
"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity."
^ Clearly a quote indicative of racism and bigotry. - o0joshua0o, on 11/13/2008, -1/+1You can't use a quote from someone unless you agree with every single thing they've written or said and every single thing they've done.
Wait, did I just defend Palin? That can't be right... - Crazyredivan, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1Much more coherent, thank you.
I agree that following someone at some point in their career does not make a person accountable for all of their potential mentor's views (because I can just hear someone yelling "Rev. Wright!" soon), but you did not see/hear people at Obama/Biden rallies holding up signs advocating blowing up Palin, nor did you hear of any potential plots against Palin's or McCain's lives (by *ahem* white supremacists in the South/Appalachia) being broken up by the authorities.
There are plenty of things you can disagree with Palin on (and believe me, I do) without calling in to question all of her supporters, but these issues just show how far this nation still has to go to achieve some real equality, and they are very relevant.
McCain called out those that were being a little too vigorous in their racially-based Obama attacks; Palin did not. - mchisari, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3@GawtMilk, it's called "dog whistle politics." There are plenty of award winning American writers who espouse small town antiquity as a vague ideal to aspire to, she could have chosen any one of them, but she chose Westbrook Pegler for a reason.
- mchisari, on 11/13/2008, -1/+25
- ORBAT, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5What's "a hot 455" mean?
- uncertainty, on 11/13/2008, -1/+4you're clearly not 1337 enough
- rrbest, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Are people really still using 1337 ?
- uncertainty, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2as a joke? yes
- deslock, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1This scares me:
"Palin Open to Idea of a Senate Run"
http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/11/12/palin- ...
Imagine her with a few years voice cracking her way through the senate.
Fortunately we also got news today that Stevens is no longer in the lead. With absentee ballots yet to be counted you can bet that they favor the Dems. - HartgE46, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1@rrbest: you obviously haven't visited the DIGG store yet.
- ORBAT, on 11/14/2008, -0/+2Why the hell can't you just say "ass" instead of using strange euphemisms?
- opticwind, on 11/13/2008, -16/+5When did she ever say anything implying white-suprecism?
- paintgrl, on 11/12/2008, -6/+97As much as I like to think she has no chance, there are 46% who said no to Obama and over 70% of them love Palin. Second 4 years is enough time for her to brush up on her knowledge gaps and practice debating. I know from Palin's interviews she is planning to get the Alaskan Senate seat that will be up for grabs soon.
I would not write her off, she is like a cockroach and will not easily die.- SheilaNoya, on 11/12/2008, -4/+73"she is like a cockroach and will not easily die"
LOL. Let's hope she stops breeding like them too.- warsongs7, on 11/13/2008, -0/+14Too late! She is already a grandma.
- Zarokima, on 11/13/2008, -1/+9GMILF
- padraic2112, on 11/12/2008, -2/+4870% of the 46% who said no to Obama equals 32.2% That's a colossal stomping in a national election, supposing that the turnout numbers are even close (which they likely won't be in 2012).
The cold reality is that Sarah Palin completely turned off anyone who was legitimately a centrist, and at least half of the actual intellectual conservatives in the country.
If she runs, and actually wins the nomination (something I regard about as likely as someone other than Obama being nominated to run for the Democratic party in 2012), it might actually trigger a large enough flight from the GOP to create a real third party in the U.S.
Experience isn't the issue. There were successful inexperienced Presidents. The issue is she is simply not curious. She doesn't care about what she doesn't know. Someone like this has no business running a city, let alone anything bigger than that... whatever else they accomplish, they're at best a marginal leadership candidate.- IndigoMoss, on 11/13/2008, -0/+30Your last paragraph is why I think myself, and pretty much anyone else here on Digg disliked Palin so much. She's an anti-intellectual, anti-science, fundamentalist (pretty much George W. Bush without the experience, and even crazier).
- maz2331, on 11/13/2008, -2/+10In politics, having a 32.2% "base" that is firmly in your camp is a huge positive that shouldn't be underestimated. It means that you only have to "win over" another 18% to win.
- kingmanic, on 11/13/2008, -1/+8maz2331: That presumes if she can build on it. If it's 32.2% love and 67.8% extreme hate she isn't going to win and it'll be much much worse. McCain got a drubbing and he had 48% of the popular vote. Imagine what 32.2% would mean.
- LBTS, on 11/13/2008, -1/+11maz2331 is correct. Now here is what you need to fear America. When the American people become complacent, as we tend to do after a largely successful Presidency that produces economic well-being (see President Bill Clinton), we have a tendency to let our guard down at the polling booth.
Should Obama be successful, it ironically opens a back door for a stumbling fool like Bush, er, I mean Palin, to walk all over a distracted populace intent on maintaining an ignorance of all things political. Unfortunately, those people make up quite a large percentage of our population. - TheUngod, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Hey, curiosity killed the...pig in lipstick?
- maz2331, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1kingmanic: That presumes if she can build on it. If it's 32.2% love and 67.8% extreme hate
Actually, I'd consider that 67.8% "extreme hate" to be highly unlikely. More likely, it would be 30% or so.
American politics tends to be around 1/3 left, 1/3 right, and 1/3 mopre-or-less neutral.
- stevets, on 11/12/2008, -2/+13Hopefully that senate seat is won by Begich and not Stevens. If Stevens wins and they expel him from the senate, then I can see Palin trying to take the seat in a special election. Didn't they just find something like 90,000 uncounted ballots in Alaska? Give it time, we'll see what happens.
- jackieblu, on 11/12/2008, -3/+8Yeah- they found them under Palin's infamous cloths!
- Tomboys, on 11/13/2008, -8/+2More BS that you did not vet.
- Domitri, on 11/13/2008, -1/+9I think that much of population that loved Palin so much just didn't trust Obama's image. When they started to distrust him, they then justified that McCain/Palin HAS to be better and threw all of their misguided support behind the GOP ticket (Though, I'm not counting the smart Republicans that have good reasons to support McCain).
I hope that Obama's presidency can change their minds about their views on him, and thus Palin could have even less supporters for 2012's presidential race.- Matri, on 11/13/2008, -0/+8Unlikely. They're already blaming Obama for stuff despite the fact he hasn't even taken over the reigns yet, and everything happening is STILL Bush's fault.
Logic and reason isn't a high point in their life, and they are unlikely to change their minds. - shauncorleone, on 11/13/2008, -4/+2Matri, you're one of the people that already voted on Obama's approval rating, aren't you?
I have no choice but to "give the guy a chance", but there is no way he will get benefit of the doubt from me. I don't like the majority of his policies domestic or foreign, and I'm confident that small business innovation will be stomped by a desire to grow an already bloated government. If anything like Emanuel's mandatory community service or the National Civilian Security force take hold, you can believe I won't be the only one more than a little concerned. - Matri, on 11/14/2008, -0/+3It's fine you don't like him. But at the least give him a chance to get behind the wheel before blaming him for wrecking the car.
- Matri, on 11/13/2008, -0/+8Unlikely. They're already blaming Obama for stuff despite the fact he hasn't even taken over the reigns yet, and everything happening is STILL Bush's fault.
- patpl22391, on 11/13/2008, -5/+1Palin already said she didn't want the senate seat.
- LBTS, on 11/13/2008, -2/+9She lies almost everytime she opens her mouth, why would you believe her now?
Hopefully this is a moot point. If we're fortunate, she will fade back into the frozen tundra of the great white north. - MammasMilk, on 11/13/2008, -1/+8Thanks but no thanks to that Bridge to the Senate?
Psh, right. - kayala, on 11/13/2008, -1/+1LBTS, pleeeease. Enough with the "frozen tundra of the great white north." Even in November we're barely white; the snow just won't stay put. Also, the tundra's farther north than the Governor's mansion.
- deslock, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4You mean like the fact that she said the exactly opposite just yesterday?
"Palin Open to Idea of a Senate Run"
http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/11/12/palin- ...
Fortunately we also got news today that Stevens is no longer in the lead. With absentee ballots yet to be counted you can bet that they favor the Dems.
- LBTS, on 11/13/2008, -2/+9She lies almost everytime she opens her mouth, why would you believe her now?
- rednip, on 11/13/2008, -0/+5Well, saying that 46% of the electorate voted against Obama is such a 'modern' Republican way of thinking about election results. The reality is that few people vote against a candidate, most vote for them. I'm sure that a number of people voted for McCain simply because he was more experienced, and yes, tested. However in four years President Obama should almost certainly have the resume for which many of those voters are looking Besides the latest opinion poll peg him at a 70% approval rating after hovering in the mid to low 50's just before voting; So plenty of people are willing to give him a fair shot at success. Of course we'll see what his presidency looks like in 3 years, but running against a sitting president is exceedingly difficult. The elder President Bush lost only because of the triple whammy of a libertarian style populist third party candidate, a recession started on his watch, and a lack of being 'in touch with the common man'.
As it looks now, Republicans who are interested in 'the big chair' should only take on a primary race for 2012, as a 'trial run' looking for exposure, and will likely consider it a blessing to fall short of the nomination, as getting a second shot at the job is rare.- Demener, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2No you'd be surprised how many people voted "against" a candidate. I voted against McCain, my best friend voted against Obama.
- mictester, on 11/13/2008, -4/+9Four years is not enough to overcome forty years of bigoted stupidity. You Americans should be EMBARRASSED by Palin's existence!
- shauncorleone, on 11/13/2008, -7/+3As your mother should be embarrassed by yours. Don't they have government-funded abortion where you are?
- Andrwmorph, on 11/13/2008, -1/+7Its a big kick in the balls to me that she was even considered at all.
- SavRabbit, on 11/13/2008, -2/+1"If she runs, and actually wins the nomination (something I regard about as likely as someone other than Obama being nominated to run for the Democratic party in 2012), it might actually trigger a large enough flight from the GOP to create a real third party in the U.S."
Let us hope so. It would seem that we don't know how important choices are to us until they are taken away. And this presidential election was quite disturbing when you come to the realisation that the two most prominent candidates were *are* nearly identical. The only real choice we had was between 1) A toe in the water amount of fascism or 2) A whole lot of fascism. Guess which one we took?
It is such a shame that people who advocate real change are overlooked not just at a national level, but at state level too (senate seats, house seats). People think they are actually "choosing" when they vote. But both parties are seeded so far into their respective "ideology" that they loop back around and meet at the same point (and yes, political identification should be viewed as a continuum). Unfortunately, looking into 3rd parties takes a lot of work right now, and that is work the sheeple of this country aren't willing to do. It's sad, and one day soon (with the way things are going), they may wake up and see the actual implications of their decisions. - bsmang, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Stop, you're scaring me.
- pgoetz, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2To paraphrase our fearless (and isn't fearlessness a side effect of stupidity?) leader, "bring it on!".
- directedition, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4Didn't know Africa was a continent.
Her knowledge gaps are more like knowledge chasms. - executorzz, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3And where do you get the numbers that of the 46% that supported McCain 70% loved Palin?
There is no way she will get picked for presidency or vice-presidency in 2012. Probably Bobby Jindal, or Mitt Romney in 2012. - MammasMilk, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1She will have time to brush up on her knowledge... not sure who much that will help her, but it might. To counter that I would say all her rhetoric as the VP candidate was fear, smear, and misinformation. I doubt she will be able to use most of that crap after 4 years. She might actually have to talk about something of substance and I don't see that as her strong suit. Likely she will latch onto wedge issues which will only rally "her" base and possibly alienate the non-evangelical-crazy-republicans like she did in this election cycle.
- FredFredrickson, on 11/13/2008, -1/+170% of 46% is only 32%, so I don't see your point.
- krnldmp, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2The people that "love" Sarah Palin are the same losers who don't want to let go of the Bush Dream, the fancy for a world where stupidity is actually potent and useful. She's a nothing woman and therefore appeals to the same.
- homercles337, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3"4 years is enough time for her to brush up on her knowledge gaps and practice debating"?
I dont think 40 years is enough for this. - gusblom, on 11/13/2008, -0/+0Some got it and some don't. A natural born leader does not need to brush up on debating skills. knowledge has already eluded Sarah Palin. If she knows not much of yesterday and today no matter what she knows about tomorrow, with which I now expect her to be familiar, she will never be a competent enough to debate me, one with a two year degree and a naturalized citizen, on American and world affairs far less debate a presidential candidate.
- SheilaNoya, on 11/12/2008, -4/+73"she is like a cockroach and will not easily die"
- vulminiha, on 11/12/2008, -6/+319It's a little sad that this article even needs to exist. It's like sitting down and writing "5 Reasons Michael Jackson Would Make a Bad Babysitter"
- Matri, on 11/13/2008, -12/+6You need 5?
- Kajarago, on 11/13/2008, -0/+5Exactly.
- dancindrudge, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5hahahahaha! fabulous!
- JigoroKano, on 11/13/2008, -0/+24Am I the only person that envisioned a Family Guy sequence after that reference?
- directedition, on 11/13/2008, -0/+7I envisioned a Cracked.com page if it makes any difference.
- joker2459, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1nope! i saw it too !!!
- Karlitzor, on 11/13/2008, -0/+14Well he would probably babysit for free, and in this economy that's something to consider.
- mem2, on 11/13/2008, -3/+21) ...., nah it is to easy.
- wolfeater2, on 11/13/2008, -0/+10what are you talking about?
MJ is the best babysitter we have ever had.
Our son loves him! - gopher043, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1Horray for Jesus Juice!
- CoreyHalliwell, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1OH SNAP!
- rjjrdq, on 11/13/2008, -0/+0"Not my Michael" said the juror...
- Matri, on 11/13/2008, -12/+6You need 5?
- pennsykid2000, on 11/12/2008, -4/+56"She likely wouldn't even make it out of the GOP primary."
Out of? She wouldn't even make it TO the primaries, just like Quayle (who actually served as VP for 4 years and presumably learned something).
Palin is good for more laughs, but her career as a serious politician is essentially over. If conservatives think Palin is a strong candidate for 2012, then conservative Republicans are a lot more intellectually bankrupt than I thought. Looking back on the last two decades of their candidates--Bush Sr, Dole, Bush Jr, McCain--they've sent up some pretty unimpressive standard bearers, even if the Bushes managed to fool enough people to get elected. Following that group with Palin would show the world how devoid their party is of top-level intellect and talent. Republicans really should start respecting intelligence and judgment in politicians; otherwise they will go the way of the Whigs.- maz2331, on 11/13/2008, -0/+14I say it would depend on the political environment at the time. For example, say that the current Bush mess is so bad that a full-blown depression occurs after January and nothing anyone does fixes it. Or, foreign events cause a perception of imminent war, or even a major shooting war (something that makes Iraq look minor by comparison).
Memories are short on such things, and the incumbent may well get the proverbial boot, regardless of who the opponent is, or even that the previous administration caused the problems in the first place. In such situations, someone running against an intellectual whose policies are perceived as ineffective need not prove intellectual depth to win in such an environment.
Let's keep in mind that both Bushes had over 90% approval ratings at some point in their terms. Public opinion is very fickle, and not always logical. - directedition, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Of course she'd make out at a GOP primary.
- executorzz, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5Bush Sr, can hardly be called unimpressive. The only reason he lost was Ross Perot took 15% of the vote and bill clinton still only barely won.
- korvan504521, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Congress also raised taxes (which was one of his talking points) and this really hit his credibility. But yes, Ross Perot split the vote that year with him too, he should have ran a better campaign though.
- HankHill00, on 11/13/2008, -0/+5Bush Sr. was indeed hardly unimpressive. Serious oversight from Pennyskid. As a former head of the CIA, Bush Sr. got to where he was on merit. He handled the Gulf War well, and was undone by the economic mess left by Reagan.
- diggapleeeze, on 11/13/2008, -3/+41992 Electoral votes:
Clinton - 370
Bush Sr - 168
Perot - 0
Popular vote win percentages:
Clinton - 43%
Bush Sr - 37%
Perot - 18%
Yeah, Clinton barely won. - gaqua, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2@diggapleeeze: If you take Perot's votes and give them to Bush Sr., he wins significantly. Hell, if you give half his votes to Bush Sr. he wins.
I think Clinton did a great job as President, but even I wouldn't say that Perot had no part in the election. It's the economy - and Perot could have WON that election if he hadn't chickened out for his daughter's wedding halfway through the year.
A solid billionaire with a hand on the economy - he had credibility. - diggapleeeze, on 11/13/2008, -1/+2gaqua, first, you're assuming if Perot wasn't in the election, all his votes would have gone to Bush. Even if half his votes went to Bush, where do you suppose the other half would have went? So Clinton still wins by the same margin.
- gaqua, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Perot is a fiscal conservative, it's fair to say that the "true" conservatives (not neo-cons) backed him in large numbers.
- LockDeltz, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1"If conservatives think Palin is a strong candidate for 2012, then conservative Republicans are a lot more intellectually bankrupt than I thought."
It's not that there intellectually bankrupt, it's that most of the candidates are corrupt to the point where all they want is the status quo. In other words what the Republican's want is not best for this country. Ron Paul was the last of that breed and he'll be 77 in 2012.
- maz2331, on 11/13/2008, -0/+14I say it would depend on the political environment at the time. For example, say that the current Bush mess is so bad that a full-blown depression occurs after January and nothing anyone does fixes it. Or, foreign events cause a perception of imminent war, or even a major shooting war (something that makes Iraq look minor by comparison).
- thereisnospoon4, on 11/12/2008, -3/+37There is only one reason I would ever want Sarah Palin to be in any sort of spotlight in this nation--to pull SNL out of the suckfest it has become. This is the first time in a decade I have been interested in watching SNL and it's only because Palin is so stupid and simple-minded. It was like she was made to be made fun of by SNL, and Tina Fey did an amazing job of that.
Other than that, Sarah Palin can go right back to Alaska and bury her head in the snow. And for the love of all that is holy, stop popping out demon spawn!- duggdowncatisad, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2http://farm1.static.flickr.com/89/249270409_664e68 ...
- chkdg8, on 11/12/2008, -20/+8If she trims up and poses for playboy she might get some followers. I'm sorry but I'm just saying what no one wants to admit. I for one would love to see her in a bikini or lingerie. 'Who's Bangin' Palin' anyone?
- jb12321, on 11/13/2008, -3/+15I actually have no idea why people think she is hot. The biggest turn off for me is a dim girl, second is probably not actually being hot at all. Palin ticks both boxes.
- snoogit, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5I guess you have to be over 50 to see it?
- sloonark, on 11/13/2008, -2/+3Ewwww.
- Wakuko, on 11/13/2008, -2/+5You got it wrong, it goes "Who's nailin' Palin"
And as sloonark said, eeeewwwwww - aud24, on 11/13/2008, -4/+1I love how all you faceless, anonymous assbags can sit here and bash this woman, including her looks- put your picture up....let's see if you're playgirl magazine ready- I SERIOUSLY doubt it... None of you will probably ever even bump elbows with someone as attractive as Sarah Palin. I better quit while I'm ahead I don't want to keep anyone from their busy guitar hero playing, nose-picking, easy mac and cheese eating, anime porn watching schedule- You bunch of f-ing losers.
- NevaDieENT, on 11/13/2008, -1/+1Maybe if you were her age or older she might be hot... but I'd rather they got Tina Fey to do it and say it was Palin
- jb12321, on 11/13/2008, -3/+15I actually have no idea why people think she is hot. The biggest turn off for me is a dim girl, second is probably not actually being hot at all. Palin ticks both boxes.
- Tomboys, on 11/12/2008, -46/+6Good Lord! Why are you still picking on Pailin? So many of you destroyed her by spreading lies that most people are too lazy to vet.
- geoken, on 11/12/2008, -2/+50I think she destroyed herself by speaking.
- jackieblu, on 11/12/2008, -0/+29McCain didn't vet her, now that the media did- her true colors came out, and there not pretty. She needs to shut up and quit criticizing President-elect Obama...
- Tomboys, on 11/13/2008, -22/+1you really shouldn't trust the media. They did not vet her. They spread lies as well. Like the new ones that have an "anonymous" source.
- jackieblu, on 11/13/2008, -0/+9I don't watch Fox. Let's see trooper-gate, the AIP, pregnant teens, I'd keep going but it's boring...
- Uberpog, on 11/13/2008, -1/+14Oh and the fact that she's stupid as ***** and her support comes from people who frown on intelligence.
Sorry Evangelicals, but once you start spewing that crap about the earth being 6000 years old and Jesus riding dinosaurs you sound just as insane as the folks behind Scientology.
I'll even cave to your opposition to evolution because it hasn't been fully explained yet. But really... the earth is 6000 years old? Come on. - Tomboys, on 11/13/2008, -1/+2"There is a special place in hell for women who do not help other women." ~ Madeleine K. Albright
- isamuelson, on 11/13/2008, -3/+2If you're talking about her "Africa is a country" gaffe, it's been debunked. David Shuster, an anchor for the MSNBC, said on air Monday that Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, had come forth and identified himself as the source of a FOX News Channel story saying Palin had mistakenly believed Africa was a country instead of a continent.
Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. Yet neither he nor the institute exist; each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, the New York Times reported Wednesday.
The rest of the story can be read at:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/13/msnbc-retr ... - isamuelson, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1Huh, my comment is buried with NO reply. Just goes to show. You don't like that it's been debunked and yet you have no counter to it.
Nice. - EtherGnat, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2@isamuelson
You're being buried because people's perception of Palin as stupid has nothing to do with the Africa as a country incident. We knew she was stupid (or at least dangerously unknowledgeable) long before that was ever reported. It should have been obvious to anybody the first time she opened her mouth in an interview.
- diggproof, on 11/13/2008, -2/+5And yet she continues to go on interviews almost everyday, poor her...
- wishninja, on 11/13/2008, -9/+4The more they talk about her the better her chances imo. I think the left is very threatened and trapped in a quagmire here. The lower they dig her the lower the expectations the easier it will be for her to rise above that bar. Just keep her in the press for 4 years and if she just says some educated things then she will get votes from the right. Remember they elected W.
- CeeAyy, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1You must be right! It's just like when people said that Obama couldn't beat Hillary... or like when they said that he needed Hillary as his VP to win... or like when people said that Palin would help McCain win because she would pick up Hillary supporters. /s
If she was such a threat as people have stated since she first entered the world stage, she would have won with McCain. The real threat is Hillary. She is much more intelligent and much more experienced and more politically savvy.
So, trapped in a quagmire? Ummm, no. Where do you guys come up with this stuff? I can understand that the real reason behind people saying what you say is that they don't want their girl beaten up too much in the press and elsewhere. They want to keep some semblance or respectability for her future political run.
That's like saying that Republicans were in a quagmire when they attacked Hillary. It's ridiculous. People who have hurt feelings about the election want the criticism to stop. That's all this is.
Palin is not qualified now and won't be qualified in four years. Let it go. Find a more qualified Republican candidate that I can at least respect even if I don't agree with their policies.
- CeeAyy, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1You must be right! It's just like when people said that Obama couldn't beat Hillary... or like when they said that he needed Hillary as his VP to win... or like when people said that Palin would help McCain win because she would pick up Hillary supporters. /s
- playuhh, on 11/12/2008, -5/+59Africa.
- jackieblu, on 11/12/2008, -2/+33The country?
- ChiaGod, on 11/13/2008, -0/+11No, the #1 hit song by Toto.
- directedition, on 11/13/2008, -0/+6They're a part of NAFTA, right?
- OffPiste, on 11/13/2008, -14/+4Arggggggg Full speed ahead on the USS Swiftboat
- patpl22391, on 11/13/2008, -14/+4So you believe baseless rumors as long as they smear Sarah Palin? It's odd you don't believe the Muslim/birth certificate/Marxist rumors about Barack Obama, considering you are probably stupid enough to fall for that one too.
- nowhereelse, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5It's odd that you think a Muslim birth certificate is even an issue and it's sad that you think that intellectual exploration is a bad thing. I guess that's what makes you a Republican.
- playuhh, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2You know why I believe it?
Because she's proven that she's ***** retarded.
REMEMBER THE COURIC INTERVIEW?
She proved herself to be a *****
AND THAT'S WHY ITS NOT HARD TO BELIEVE.
Obama on the other hand has proven himself hundreds of times.
Vouching for his own merit through the use of actions/words.
Those rumors seem like smears more than anything credible or even RELEVANT.
It doesn't even have to be true for people to believe it. Just has to make sense.
The smears about Obama... most of them just make no real-world sense.
Made by flaming idiots / paranoid numbskulls that kinda sound like you.
- donkeyshow, on 11/13/2008, -2/+81. Africa
2. Russia - wtrwlkr, on 11/13/2008, -1/+61. Africa
2. Russia
3. NAFTA - MikeXpop, on 11/13/2008, -2/+141. Africa
2. Russia
3. NAFTA
4. You betcha - Kidddrunkadelic, on 11/13/2008, -8/+51. Africa
2. Russia
3. NAFTA
4. You betcha
5. Bill Ayers - gquaglia, on 11/13/2008, -8/+8This was already proven to be a bull ***** made up story. She never made the Africa statement.
- gquaglia, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/13/msnbc-retr ...
Funny how the some are still burring the truth. - msmayhew, on 11/13/2008, -0/+6This is why I'm checking digg less and less often. Verifiable true statements are being buried because people WANT them to be false. I thought digg would get better after the election ended but this is ridiculous.
- DiggMember01, on 11/13/2008, -2/+1"The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin -- not the FOX News story itself." - your article
- playuhh, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1"It's funny because it's true."
Does NOT apply here...
But it's still funny and ****believable****
because of the way Palin acts and speaks.
Can I get an AMEN? - Kidddrunkadelic, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1You know the list is a knock at her?
All the made-up/wrong *****?
- gquaglia, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/13/msnbc-retr ...
- jackieblu, on 11/12/2008, -2/+33The country?
- larsone86, on 11/12/2008, -16/+6Just when you thought the election coverage was finally over....someone's got to bring up 2012....
- roxgod666, on 11/13/2008, -2/+4So true...yet people have the urge to bury you.
- ChonoonFiend, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Pathetic really.
- Xihix, on 11/12/2008, -13/+36I'd plow through HER door if you know what I mean.
- arkboysooner, on 11/13/2008, -7/+2"“if there is a door open in 2012 or four yeas later…then I’ll plow through that door.”
- Kajarago, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2.......................Oh, what the hell I'll just say it - how exactly was that quote relevant to the subject?
- zimz, on 11/13/2008, -0/+5I've been looking at that quote wondering how one would go about plowing through an open door.
- airstrike, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1ahahaha hadn't realized that.. awesome
- o0joshua0o, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1With lots of panache.
- arkboysooner, on 11/13/2008, -7/+2"“if there is a door open in 2012 or four yeas later…then I’ll plow through that door.”
- XeN0cidE, on 11/12/2008, -1/+55*pew pew pew* [wink]
- tsoldrin, on 11/12/2008, -8/+18She lost my vote when I saw that Israeli flag in her office.
- enantiodromia, on 11/13/2008, -1/+22Christian American Zionism is a weird thing...
- Uberpog, on 11/13/2008, -1/+15It's not just weird it's frightening.
The real motivation behind the evangelical support of Israel? It's where the rapture is going to occur. It can't happen until the Jews finally are in control of the holy land. Oh yeah and what happens to the Jews they're supporting once the rapture comes? They never accepted Christ so they go to hell. Yay! - enantiodromia, on 11/13/2008, -2/+7Uberpog, that's not correct.
The Dispensationalist say that the Jews remain on earth in their own sort of paradise, with crystal cities and other sorts of nonsense, and the Xians go to Heaven.
It works like this: the Jews are the chosen people of the earth, and the Xians are the chose people of Heaven.
The only people who go to Hell are the rest of us who don't believe in their crazing ***** mythology that wasn't even invented until about 1800 years after Jesus died.
This happens to be one of my favorite subjects to read about, because it is utterly insane. - s2ao, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1The sad thing is that Israel welcomes this support, as long as these people hate A-rabs more that they hate Jews...
Pat Buchanan was a welcome guest and a good friend of Israel until he said that Sharon's stroke was divine punishment for getting settlers out of Gaza.
- Uberpog, on 11/13/2008, -1/+15It's not just weird it's frightening.
- patpl22391, on 11/13/2008, -5/+7Considering Biden is Israel's "no. 1 friend," I'd say you are a liar.
- Karlitzor, on 11/13/2008, -7/+3How much do they pay you for operating the gas chamber?
- beerock, on 11/13/2008, -3/+1How much does the IDF pay you to chill out on Digg and sling ***** like that?
- enantiodromia, on 11/13/2008, -1/+22Christian American Zionism is a weird thing...
- 80hd, on 11/12/2008, -21/+4I like that the losing VP candidate is more popular than the guy that won...
- Matri, on 11/13/2008, -1/+14Only because she's more entertaining. We laugh AT her, and we laugh WITH him.
- ObamAmerican48, on 11/13/2008, -0/+12She's not more popular that PRESIDENT ELECT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA...she's a car wreck that no one really wants to see but can't help watching. She's the circus sideshow freak.
- pantoneGhost, on 11/12/2008, -7/+815 words,
doesn't know ***** about *****.- roxgod666, on 11/13/2008, -7/+95 words,
she doesn't know five words
Ehh ill give myself a FAIL, but it was a good try- Kajarago, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Nice try, but you're not getting my pity digg. Buried.
- chaosblade77, on 11/13/2008, -0/+12With as many kids as she has, I have to say that's one thing she does know.
- tenspeedogbb, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Not true. She knows plenty about "*****", just watch "Who's Nailin' Paylin?" for proof.
- joker2459, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1well its cuz she thinks god said we can only ***** to procreate.
someone needs to fill her in on how he changed his mind and now we can use contraceptives
http://blog.beliefnet.com/faithfunnies/imgs/god_po ...
- roxgod666, on 11/13/2008, -7/+95 words,
- YsoSerious57, on 11/12/2008, -4/+875 reasons:
1. She's Sarah Palin
repeat four more times- 4NDr01D, on 11/13/2008, -1/+6be careful it might make her reappear like
beetlegeuse or candyman...- ORBAT, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1I wonder if Sarah Palin would start to spew green slime and levitate if someone splattered holy water on her.
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!
- ORBAT, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1I wonder if Sarah Palin would start to spew green slime and levitate if someone splattered holy water on her.
- 4NDr01D, on 11/13/2008, -1/+6be careful it might make her reappear like
- 8300dvo, on 11/12/2008, -2/+34you managed to narrow it down to 5 huh? that deserves a digg in itself
- darkciti2, on 11/12/2008, -3/+29Could we please ignore this woman into oblivion, ala Man Coulter?
- TunaFishGangsta, on 11/12/2008, -1/+527. Her GOP compatriots will tear her apart. She's married to a man who was a part of the Alaskan secessionist party for 7 years (sleeping with the enemy), she attended their meetings, and she addressed their annual conventions twice including this year when she said to them "keep up the good work".
Last I checked, wanting to secede from the union was pretty anti-American. Obama went light on this because he had more cards in his deck. The GOP, not so much. They will take this one thing and swift-boat her, and her wit isn't going to save her.
Personally, I believe one of the only reasons she's "open" to the idea of running in 2012 is that she wants to save face. She wants to say, "oh I'm up for that again". She was put through the wash and hung out to dry. I don't think she's going to want to do that again, but never say never I suppose.- plimpton777, on 11/13/2008, -1/+17Great analysis, and I agree with everything but your final paragraph...judging by that whacked-out look in her eye, and the way her entire face brightens up when people bring up 2012, this moron looks upon the presidency as the Ultimate Beauty Contest, and is blissfully ignorant of the fact that she is dangerously incapable of handling that job.
God help us if she's even competitive. I'll be cheering for Romney to tear her a new ***** during the primaries. - maz2331, on 11/13/2008, -1/+4The GOP is not monolithic at all - it is very much a federation of factions. She is now the face of the "neo-conservative" faction, of which people like Sean Hannity are textbook examples.
Romney would be the most likely challenger to her. His faction is "moderate," of which McCain and Lincoln Chaffee are excellent examples.
Then of course, there are the Libertarians, of whom Ron Paul is the best known example.- SavRabbit, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4Libertarians can't really be called Republicans by today's standards. To my knowledge, Ron Paul chose to run under the Republican party name so that he could not only bring back a sense of "traditional" Republican values (actual values mind you, like respect and protection of the individual, not the enforcement of your religious text of choice to the masses) back to the party, and also to have a better chance (because let's face it, we've all seen the Simpson's episode where Kodos (or was it Kang?) tells us that voting for a third party is essentially throwing out your vote).
Libertarians are (and this is really paring it down)
1: socially liberal (aka the government doesn't tell you which rights you have, it only protects the right of the individual, which is the smallest minority) and
2: TRULY fiscally conservative (aka capitalistic. No government regulations. AND NO PORK (which repubs love to love!) In fact, under a true capitalistic society, the only government agencies would be defense, judiciary, and police forces etc. Unfortunately this country has a bad 'taste in their mouths' from what they THINK is capitalism, but is really regulation on top of regulation on top of more regulation, and now nationalisation of our banks and auto industry...We are a mixed economy at best, and capitalism has never had a chance to really sow any seeds....frightening that most sheeple don't know this.)
The only thing that Ron Paul (unfortunately) has in common with most Republicans is that he is evangelical christian (Baptist), which leads to some actually pretty anti libertarian stances, such as being strictly pro life (a true libertarian may have that as a personal belief, but would never vote for or promote any laws against abortion. How conservative does THAT sound?).
Republicans by today's standards, which is turning towards the "NeoCon" faction you mentioned, is at best totalitarian, at worst fascist. All they are concerned with is the promotion/enforcement of their "morally superior" stances on everyone else. I know this is a well known fact but any rational person who looks at that should be very, very bothered. Unfortunately, the party is turning into a breeding ground of anti-intellectualism and outright backward thought.
- SavRabbit, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4Libertarians can't really be called Republicans by today's standards. To my knowledge, Ron Paul chose to run under the Republican party name so that he could not only bring back a sense of "traditional" Republican values (actual values mind you, like respect and protection of the individual, not the enforcement of your religious text of choice to the masses) back to the party, and also to have a better chance (because let's face it, we've all seen the Simpson's episode where Kodos (or was it Kang?) tells us that voting for a third party is essentially throwing out your vote).
- tonberryqueen, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Her wit?
I think you meant "wink," maybe? - BohicaTwentyTwo, on 11/13/2008, -1/+1True, seeing as the Alaskan Indepedence Party are John Bircher Libertarians. They have more in common with Ron Paul than the Republican party.
- plimpton777, on 11/13/2008, -1/+17Great analysis, and I agree with everything but your final paragraph...judging by that whacked-out look in her eye, and the way her entire face brightens up when people bring up 2012, this moron looks upon the presidency as the Ultimate Beauty Contest, and is blissfully ignorant of the fact that she is dangerously incapable of handling that job.
- jackieblu, on 11/12/2008, -5/+21Palin can't give up her 15 minutes, and I am sick of her. I hope she plows through her door in Alaska, and shuts it (with her stuffed bear).
- kingmanic, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Can we make that locks it with a real bear inside?
- MediaWeasel, on 11/12/2008, -3/+22The other thing that will come back to haunt her is her character and personality - no-one in the GOP will forget her egocentric hissy fits, her sense of entitlement, her lying and her whackjob diva reputation. Would YOU want to work with someone like that for an election season? Let alone contemplate working with her for four years - the staff turnover would be shocking.
Palin might come across on the surface as being all folksy and jolly, but that's a facade. - SparklingWiggle, on 11/12/2008, -2/+16#6: Because you can't win something you're not in the running for.
- siszam, on 11/13/2008, -3/+26I hope she does run. It will be fun watching her epic failure when she can't hide from the media.
- atdigg, on 11/13/2008, -1/+16I have mixed feeling, I want her to run because she's not going to win, but I cringe at the thought to see news about her every day.
- centerblack, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2http://difficultchoices.ytmnd.com/
- SisterSabbay, on 11/13/2008, -10/+10
- Matri, on 11/13/2008, -0/+6It's not slander if it's true.
- kingmanic, on 11/13/2008, -2/+1At least in America.
- Matri, on 11/13/2008, -0/+6It's not slander if it's true.
- subliminali, on 11/13/2008, -2/+8#6-- taking all of the partisan swipes out of this her main obstacle is actually the same obstacle for any candidate on the GOP ticket-- It is incredibly hard to unseat an incumbent president. We re-elected George Bush in 04, what more proof do you need?
- kingmanic, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Oddly the much more competent Bush sr. Got the boot.
- teebird, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2I can think of a few things that spoiled Bush senior's run for a second term...
...Remember Bush's "Read my lips. No new taxes" campaign pledge? Clinton used that as a stick to hammer Bush at every opportunity because Bush had been forced to back away from his campaign promise in order to reach a compromise with Congress on the budget bill.
...The economy was weak and the public tends to blame the incumbent president for bad economic times.
...Communism was no longer the perceived threat it had been and the factions in the Republican party and Bush's own campaign were in disarray because the absence of a clearly defined opponent on the international scene had suddenly changed the balance of power among GOP political operatives and the infighting kept them from developing a coherent campaign.
Clinton was able to capitalize on those and other weaknesses in the Bush campaign to win the election.
I think Bush junior went a long way on the strength of the so-called "values voters" in the Republican party. He came out as a conservative Christian, spoke their language and said the right things about the issues they considered important.
I think one of the reasons McCain got clobbered in the 2008 election is the values voters and the other members of the GOP right wing didn't see him as their man and even though Sarah Palin managed to rally at least some of the right wing to their campaign, they weren't as numerous or as influential as they'd been in previous elections. Also, exit poll data shows that the economy and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were more on voters' minds than "values issues" and the younger contingent of the Republican party was far less interested in "core values" than they were in the wars, the economy and the environment.
- teebird, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2I can think of a few things that spoiled Bush senior's run for a second term...
- kingmanic, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Oddly the much more competent Bush sr. Got the boot.
- GregFD3S, on 11/13/2008, -5/+51Five reasons? Seriously?
One reason: She's an evangelical nut-job that's legally mentally ***** retarded.- iignotus, on 11/13/2008, -0/+10Yes but so is 1/3 of America.
- shauncorleone, on 11/13/2008, -18/+3I'll take evangelical over black nationalist.
- ziffel, on 11/13/2008, -2/+5Well then, too bad. you lose.
- m4lomb, on 11/13/2008, -3/+7Get used to 8 years of obama. Don't you have a KKK meeting you have to attend?
- aud24, on 11/13/2008, -8/+1@m4 that was so original! You must have been the valedictorian at the Obama Drone Institute!
- shauncorleone, on 11/13/2008, -2/+4Aww that's cute, a racist accusation from a tool who knows nothing about me. I'm amazed you have time to post on Digg. Don't you have some government mandated community service to complete?
- notthatnoise, on 11/13/2008, -1/+3ummm, if you aren't racist, what does black have to do with anything?
- shauncorleone, on 11/13/2008, -2/+2"Black Nationalist" refers to his 20 years in Wright's church of hate. Don't try to mince my words, you fail miserably.
- aud24, on 11/13/2008, -1/+2Hey Gunther- I like that 'Audacity'- has a nice ring to it. Neocon jerk circle? I quote Reverend Wright "God d*** America"... yes that's the African American purveyor of faith I want to get behind. Shaun and I (and the rest of my 'neocon jerk circle' friends) back each other up on these threads, because we are the only people that haven't lost the ability to reason. We actually have common sense. Who knew!
- Anomaly100, on 11/13/2008, -2/+21Is the fact she's ridiculously ignorant a reason? It might be a factor.
You betcha! - OffPiste, on 11/13/2008, -26/+2I sure wouldn't vote for her because she should have aborted her retarded infant. Why must we have more children that are a burden on our society?
- Karlitzor, on 11/13/2008, -0/+13I'd like to know that as well, go ask your mom and tell us.
- gopher043, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Hitler is that you?
- scot333, on 11/13/2008, -4/+33Why are we even talking about this?
- ziffel, on 11/13/2008, -1/+4Because nearly half the United States nearly voted her dumb ass into the Oval Office, assuming McCain wouldn't last 4 years.
- kangy3213, on 11/13/2008, -12/+6A 4 year early election season on Digg?
thats ***** better than the ***** that smacks the front page every hour that includes a wierd animal doing something...- Karlitzor, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3OM NOM NOM
- BuryHuffPost, on 11/13/2008, -32/+3The real #1 reason is that shes a women.
Women have been oppressed since the dawn of time. Way longer than any race can even attempt to claim.
This most recent election had the idea that somehow it's more historic to have a black president than a women.
Sexism isn't going anywhere soon.- Eiknujrac, on 11/13/2008, -1/+16I don't think you can qualify who has been more oppressed, black people or women.
On one hand, women weren't enslaved since the beginning of civilization like black people were.
On the other hand, while not technically enslaved, women have always been seen as inferior.
No one said it was "more historic" to have a black president, just that it is a HUGE step forward in this country, where only 150 years ago they were still being enslaved and where there still exist chapters of the KKK.
Racism isn't going anywhere soon, either. (see recent KKK shooting)- patpl22391, on 11/13/2008, -7/+3black people weren't enslaved since the "beginning of civilization", lrn2history.
- ObamAmerican48, on 11/13/2008, -0/+9I would love to see a COMPETENT woman become president. HRC would have been a good president had Barack not come along; he's just a better leader than HRC. A lot of women would make good presidents: Janet Napolitano, Kathleen Sebelius, Jennifer Granholm, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Christie Todd Whitman, Condoleezza Rice.
Palin is a dumb bitch, not a strong woman seeking to break the glass ceiling. The only glass Palin can/will break is the stained glass window in her voodoo/talking in tongues church. - Eiknujrac, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4@patpl
If you think the enslavement of black people began and ended in America, it is yourself that needs to "lrn2history". - BuryHuffPost, on 11/13/2008, -5/+1@Eiknujrac
If you think that a black person was enslaved by a non-black before a women was enslaved by a man, you need to lrn2history. - osukwm, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Though women have had a tough go of it in the USA, they have had many presidential and prime minister positions in numerous influential nations, especially throughout Europe. Obama is the first black head of state I can think of outside of Africa or the Caribbean.
- Eiknujrac, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1@Bury
Like I said, we can continue this speculative agruement all we want. The fact is, you cannot qualify who has been more oppressed.
- Navicerts, on 11/13/2008, -5/+3Women are not oppressed, they are simply lesser beings.
- RachieP, on 11/13/2008, -3/+1Just wait. Proven fact women outpopulate men, and will continue to do so.
Majority vote, anyone?
- Eiknujrac, on 11/13/2008, -1/+16I don't think you can qualify who has been more oppressed, black people or women.
- TsuruchiBrian, on 11/13/2008, -3/+25#6: We're not doing the talent portion
- sch123opinion, on 11/13/2008, -2/+12Sarah Palin is a Pain just a Plain Pain. I am tired of hearing about or from her. Just a waste of time. Leave her up in Alaska in a deep freeze.
- Tomboys, on 11/13/2008, -17/+3 I think it's shameful how women participated so much in the sexism of this election year.
- Karlitzor, on 11/13/2008, -1/+10Sexism? I didn't know retarded was a gender.
- RachieP, on 11/13/2008, -2/+0I think you're confusing right-wing, hardcore Republican families (Pitbulls included) with women.
I for one voted for Obama. I think it's shameful you actually believe that to be fact.
- JohnTheRevel, on 11/13/2008, -5/+18If the GOP is serious about going back to their party's roots of individual freedom, sound money, and a non interventionist foreign policy, they'll look to Ron Paul Republicans not this stupid bitch who didn't even know that Africa was a continent. I mean just look at this piece written by the good doctor today: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/11/paul.republ ...
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of hearing and seeing Palin on the news everyday. She should have disappeared after the election was over, but for some strange reason the media keeps pimping her out to be the GOP's future. She represents the exact opposite of what the GOP's future should be if they plan on winning again in the future.
WHY IS THIS BITCH STILL TAKEN SERIOUSLY? I'm sick of these fake "conservatives" who hijacked our party.- patpl22391, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5Why do you believe rumors from unnamed aides?
- donkeyshow, on 11/13/2008, -1/+4She has a nicer rack than the good Dr.
- TechMike, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1Your post shows why no one took RP seriously. Palin is the only one who energized the Republican base. RP energized the Libertarian fringe - and put the rest of us to sleep.
- bmw112208, on 11/13/2008, -3/+40#14, refers to dinosaurs as "Jesus Horses"
- ziffel, on 11/13/2008, -0/+5You owe me a new keyboard.
- robish518, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1brilliant
- riverrunner, on 11/13/2008, -4/+13Yes she can't win in 2012 but don't let your guard down for 2016 (that might be enough time for her to learn a few things). She is still a big threat to this great country. Some people are easily duped (see 2000 to 2008). Why anyone would have such disrespect for the office of president and hate our country so much as to elect her to office is beyond me but unfortunately we can't ignore her until ALL of the voters do.
- toptopics, on 11/13/2008, -5/+8four years from now people are going to be more advanced, the youth population is going to increase.. so just forget it palin
- fullback, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5"four years from now people are going to be more advanced..."
I've been alive through nine presidents so far and people/presidents have gotten dumber every single year. You underestimate just how stupid the average American is -- over 55 million Americans voted for her this year and they elected George W. Bush twice. More advanced, my ass.
- fullback, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5"four years from now people are going to be more advanced..."
- Ageroth, on 11/13/2008, -3/+4it took me a second to realize you meant ASS
- BuryBrigade08, on 11/13/2008, -23/+6Diggers are getting pretty pathetic - the election is over, kids. I know you have to direct your irrational hatred and rage against Sarah Palin somewhere, but this is beginning to get sad even for left-wing DNC propaganda sites like digg.
- ObamAmerican48, on 11/13/2008, -4/+8boo hoo, sour grapes.
As long as Sarah Palin over exposes herself, she's fair game. - RachieP, on 11/13/2008, -3/+6Mm.. I have to agree.
If she wants to continue to do interviews and not fade into the sunset, she will continue to leave herself open to ridicule.
Until something intelligent comes out of her mouth, I think she's an easy target.
- ObamAmerican48, on 11/13/2008, -4/+8boo hoo, sour grapes.
- WhiskersThe3rd, on 11/13/2008, -6/+1i was expecting this to be funnier, it could have been oh so much funnier
- beastlee, on 11/13/2008, -5/+12Real Reason #6:
She's moved on to become the highest grossing politician-turned pornstar.- Kangalanatolian, on 12/09/2008, -0/+1In your dreams.
- zoziw, on 11/13/2008, -3/+5Reason #6 - The Rapture (though we'll still be here digging our way through the tribulation!)
- chaosblade77, on 11/13/2008, -1/+4I have the feeling this guy expects Romney to win out the 2012 primaries. Not sure what makes me think that...
- hulkamaniaz, on 11/13/2008, -7/+6Why are we even talking about this? Let Barack do his thing and he will breeze into 2016.
- YouAreDead, on 11/13/2008, -4/+3wtf, you don't have any other work to do?
- walkngdude, on 11/13/2008, -3/+2implants would sink it.
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