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- pitchblack16, on 08/01/2008, -18/+51no one can lower gas prices, only dubai can lower gas prices. why? cause dubai is the ***** *****.
- o0justice0o, on 08/02/2008, -1/+3I think your talking about the Russians
source:http://www.opec.org/library/FAQs/PetrolIndustry/q4 ...
edit:Wait a minute that's from the OPEC website, yup its confirmed dubai is the ***** *****
source:http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922041.html
Side note: Russia ain't to far off they are number two in the world in Oil exports- Dalhectar, on 08/02/2008, -0/+4You know Dubai isn't in Saudi Arabia.
But Dubai is the ***** *****. Unless you are an Asian migrant worker... then it ***** on you.
- Dalhectar, on 08/02/2008, -0/+4You know Dubai isn't in Saudi Arabia.
- LeeSoong, on 08/02/2008, -2/+8Act like all the oil is already gone - switch to alternatives now to prevent an economic collapse when oil really is All Gone.
Compressed Air Cars, Solar Power, Wind Power, Hydro power, wave power, LED lighting, Self powered Solar+Wind LED street lights, etc.
The USA has no need for foreign oil, the nation is lazy and stupid.
If Carl Sagan was alive and President instead of G.W. Bush, the USA would be the leading energy producer, and oil and coal would be items of little or no interest.
http://www.homepower.com - 15charmaxwtf, on 08/02/2008, -7/+2Wrong. I can think of at least two ways that seem fairly politically possible:
1) Remove taxes, duh - how can anyone not think of that? (Yea and cut spending too, kinda pointless otherwise)
2) Stop prohibiting drilling in various places, the knowledge that there will be more sources of oil in the future will bring down today's prices.
And here's some more politically incorrect ones which neither of the candidates will ever do:
3) Stop meddling in the middle east so there is less risk in the area
4) Allow competing currencies and eventually shut down the Federal Reserve (obviously don't kill it quickly that would cause absolute chaos) Gold will likely win out and if you have a look at a graph how much oil and oz of gold will buy you will see a much more stable line.
Of course the president can't click his fingers he would have to get them through congress.- ZenMojo, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2...FOMCFOMAROFLMAO...WTF!!!!!!!
No, but seriously. You deserve to be dugg down but you should at least know why.
Removing taxes would drop the price about 20 cents and now you have no infrastructure and more collapsing bridges (which the Republicans will be sure to try and avoid on their way to the RNC convention in St. Paul...good luck with that.)
Increasing drilling would lower gas prices about 4 cents on the gallon 10 years from now because the oil would just go on the global market to compete with the Saudi and Russian supplies. We don't get it, the world does. It's called the Free Market.
And we have 68 million acres of undeveloped property out there already. We should be taking the leases back before we offer oil companies new land anyway.
So we would be risking our ecological security to give more oil to China and more money to oil companies, who thanks to our Supreme Court, don't actually have to pay to clean up what they ***** up anymore. Thanks, Alito! During Hurricanes Katrina and Rita there were over 100 oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico. There's already an ecological dead zone in the Gulf, do you want to make it worse?
So, while #3 is a good answer and #4 a possible option, 1 and 2 are just uninformed.
- ZenMojo, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2...FOMCFOMAROFLMAO...WTF!!!!!!!
- TVarmy, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2I thought it was Bob Baar's job?
- david76, on 08/02/2008, -0/+5We don't purchase any oil from the UAE. The majority of our oil comes from Canada.
- vbullinger, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Dugg for f-ing pwning the dude above.
- msheidi, on 08/02/2008, -1/+0Domestic drilling can lower gas prices.
- hyunseob90, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1OMG this is unbelievably depressing. Only 50%??
- o0justice0o, on 08/02/2008, -1/+3I think your talking about the Russians
- AmyVernon, on 08/01/2008, -7/+126And they're right.
- grumpyrain, on 08/02/2008, -2/+10What the hell are the other 50% smoking?
- LeeSoong, on 08/02/2008, -4/+4They're children's future.
- bradhart2, on 08/02/2008, -3/+7Those are the 50% who believe god fills ups earths fuel tank as every time the sun revolves around us...
- Eezyville, on 08/02/2008, -3/+2No we're the 50% who actually think things through and realized that neither of the candidates policies will help. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean we're religious fanatics.
- JohnLawson, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1I gave Eezyville a thumbs up even though I digress.
Prejudice is a healthy thing. ;)
- LeeSoong, on 08/02/2008, -4/+4They're children's future.
- bradhart2, on 08/02/2008, -3/+4Anyone who thinks we will ever see gas at less than $2/gallon in the US again is suffering from serious delusions. On the other hand we can achieve fuel efficiency standards that will take us back to a time of 20miles per dollar spent on fuel if the auto industry didn't have so much of its own money invested in the oil industry and vice versa.
- twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -5/+6We have a hundred years worth of 'known' oil in our oil shale alone. We have oil off the gulf coast, around Alaska and in Alaska. Coal to oil conversion is profitable around $40 dollars a barrel, and we have ***** loads of coal.
Granted, the President can't get any of this for us, but they could push to ban government regulation preventing oil/coal companies from giving it to us, so indirectly, yes, they could lower prices, though I don't think they would really deserve credit, unless you want to give them credit for allowing the free market to work.
Our oil and energy could be as cheap as *****. We have so many resources it's unbelievable. But..... the enviroment!!!!! All you leftist loon bags can pretend all day long that we "can't have cheaper oil" and try to convince yourself by repeating it to each other and calling those who disagree with you retards but you have your head buried.
Even if you were right, (and all the increased drilling / shale extraction / coal conversion in the world had no impact on price, we would still HELP the enviroment by drilling in America. That's because consumption is based off of price, not extraction location. If gas is $5 a gallon people will cut back on use, regardless if it's coming from Utah or the Middle East. But, if it's coming from the Utah there will be less transportation pollution. And oh by the way we'd reduce our trade deficit, increase our governments tax revenue and provide more American jobs.
How about all you environmental freaks grow a damn pair of balls and say why you really don't want more drilling instead of hiding behind these retarded arguments that we "can't" have lower prices. You "no we can't" leftist make me sick. You're no different than neocons. Everything is based on propaganda. - gamingspartan, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Common cant we just all agree we are *****?
- JohnLawson, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Simple, yet true.
- grumpyrain, on 08/02/2008, -2/+10What the hell are the other 50% smoking?
- macweirdo42, on 08/01/2008, -10/+119Congratulations, 50% of Americans aren't total dumbasses. Unfortunately, that means that 50% of Americans ARE dumbasses, but thanks to the last two elections, we already knew that.
- Mootabolife, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2Actually... only 62 million people voted for bush last election. So the other 30% have to be inferred.
- Greg2k, on 08/02/2008, -7/+14Just because 50% voted for Bush doesn't mean 50% are dumbasses. In retrospect you can say all you want, but it's insulting to those who just happened to vote for the guy you don't endorse. Let's just stop insulting people who have an opinion and excercise it on Election Day, ok? It's childish and kinda annoying.
- macweirdo42, on 08/02/2008, -7/+7That doesn't actually make sense. I wasn't endorsing anyone. And boo hoo, I'm insulting idiots who voted for this guy AFTER seeing him run the country into the ground for four years. Face it, it's got nothing to do with my political leanings, the man is a terrible Republican. Bigger government, uncontrolled government spending, limiting of freedom - I may be a liberal, but even if I were conservative, I see no way you could justify supporting this man.
I mean lets face it, the reason people voted for him was because he hid behind the American flag, and because he constantly tried to scare us with stories about terrorist boogeymen out to get us. - 15charmaxwtf, on 08/02/2008, -2/+5Yes it does, and it means the other 50% are dumbarses too :-)
I include myself in the dumbarse category. - queenstarsha, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1uh, no. if you voted for bush in 2004, you *are* dumber than the people who did not. my aunt with her ex-beauty queen brains trotted out some apologetic thing about "we didn't know when we voted for bush... mieh mieh mieh."
BULL. *****. you wanted more scary brown people dead and you thought bush would lower your taxes, not paris hilton's. idiots. assholes. i still love my aunt, but she made it a lot harder when she admitted she's in the lower 50th percentile, politically.
- macweirdo42, on 08/02/2008, -7/+7That doesn't actually make sense. I wasn't endorsing anyone. And boo hoo, I'm insulting idiots who voted for this guy AFTER seeing him run the country into the ground for four years. Face it, it's got nothing to do with my political leanings, the man is a terrible Republican. Bigger government, uncontrolled government spending, limiting of freedom - I may be a liberal, but even if I were conservative, I see no way you could justify supporting this man.
- jabberwolf, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1And Obama's strategy is ... do nothing.
I'd say the public has it at least half right.- Narcowski, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Artificially raising demand by lowering prices would only make long-term costs worse.
- twertyto, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2It's that kind of attitude that is a major problem in this country. Kudos to Greg2k's comment.
- lucy22, on 08/01/2008, -4/+29I don't believe either can do anything about it despite promises. The decision is out of their hands, sad to say.
- Halokhan, on 08/02/2008, -2/+2Yah, its up to Congress to get ***** done. OH wait! Congress just went on Recess.
Lesson Learned: Don't let democrats have a majority over anything. - squaredUP, on 08/02/2008, -2/+2Your right it is way out of their control. International bankers whom in turn own the central banks in most countries of the world control everything. The real question is more or less what would their motivation behind it be? What are they trying to accomplish?
- inboxnews, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2You're right! Nothing can be done. Why even bother to try. Just quit. Hope, change, future. Just words.
- Halokhan, on 08/02/2008, -2/+2Yah, its up to Congress to get ***** done. OH wait! Congress just went on Recess.
- CristianRaiber, on 08/01/2008, -5/+12Nothing could be more true.
- Bleach90, on 08/01/2008, -15/+14The other 50% must have been paid by McCain and Obama.
- bardo77n, on 08/01/2008, -20/+5The next president certainly could appear help lower gas prices if he would simply STOP OVER-REGULATING THE OIL INDUSTRY. In fact, he isn't lowering the price, but he just allowing the market to do it.
That won't happen, though. These big government Republicrats will never do anything to stop the Government from continuing to meddle with and ruin the economy.- davidryal, on 08/01/2008, -2/+14Yeah, imagine how well those struggling oil companies could do if they weren't constrained by burdensome regulations.
- mastersquirrel3, on 08/02/2008, -4/+8You've been soo brain ***** you're talking in taco. And I like were you're going. All praise the mighty and powerful market because it could never do wrong. It would never allow a few rich to stand on the heads of the poor.
- localzuk, on 08/02/2008, -5/+6Did you see the news recently? Exxon Mobil posted record quarterly profits of $11.7billion. During the time when people are struggling.
I think the solution is *more* regulation here, not less.- mcquitty, on 08/02/2008, -3/+5If you think more regulation is the answer, then you've got issues?
You do realize that oil companies can set the price of oil just as well as farmers can set the price for corn, right?
It's called an open market.. and then there's a futures market.
I didn't hear anyone crying about oil companies when it was $10/barrel and the industry was going through layoffs.. - thejimmyo, on 08/02/2008, -1/+5"You do realize that oil companies can set the price of oil"
Oil prices are set on the GLOBAL market. The United States only has ~ 3% of the world's oil reserves. We really don't set the price of oil. - ThisistheEdge, on 08/02/2008, -4/+2During the same quarter, Exxon Mobil paid over 30 Billion in taxes. 30 Billion. So while they do make huge profits, they pay huge taxes. How much is enough? They will pay well in excess of 100 Billion in taxes this year, but all anyone ever cries about is "they made record profits." Once The Chosen One is elected and raises corporate taxes, we'll be lucky if most of these companies don't leave the U.S. for more favorable tax climates.
- southwestnut, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2uhm, exxon makes roughly 1500 dollars per second in profit.
Think that is crazy?
Exxon PAYS 4500 dollars per second in taxes.
Now go complain.
- mcquitty, on 08/02/2008, -3/+5If you think more regulation is the answer, then you've got issues?
- Rotzooi, on 08/01/2008, -23/+8But I can! DRILL DRILL DRILL drill everywhere!!!! Don't let one inch of American land go undrilled!!! DRIIIIIIIIIILLL!!! DRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLL!!!!!!
- DocDrea323, on 08/01/2008, -17/+13Of course they spin it that way. No one wants to mention that 50% do think the prices can be lowered. Focus on the bad. Makes sense.
Then again, that's just me. I know gas prices will continue to rise. That's capitalism folks. Start high, lower the price so the masses can enjoy it, and then slowly but surely raise it. We can off shore drill all we want, and the price will still go up. All that off shore drilling can do is give the oil companies more oil to sell.- darkphenox, on 08/02/2008, -9/+6Some one who gets it!
- Scheissen, on 08/02/2008, -8/+10"We can off shore drill all we want, and the price will still go up."
You are an idiot.- darkphenox, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2OK the oil companies can , not do anything and let the gas price keep getting higher anf eventually get an alternative energy source to power cars, or they can drill and lower the gas prices and make less then what they are now OR they can drill and let the gas price keep getting higher knowing that people still need to use gas, and a electric powered transport is very far off.
for a company that wants to get more profit which seems to be the most logical choice they could make hmmmm.
- darkphenox, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2OK the oil companies can , not do anything and let the gas price keep getting higher anf eventually get an alternative energy source to power cars, or they can drill and lower the gas prices and make less then what they are now OR they can drill and let the gas price keep getting higher knowing that people still need to use gas, and a electric powered transport is very far off.
- ihav0frnds, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2i don't follow your logic. if we drill more, that means the world's supply of oil increases. the simple laws of supply and demand say that with increased supply, prices will drop. commodity traders are most likely going to devalue crude oil prices if the calculated demand in relation to supply is dropped. that would clearly translate to lower gas prices.
- Kangalanatolian, on 08/01/2008, -4/+16This oil price rise is set in stone by our debasement of the currency by the federal reserve.
- skunks, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Back to the gold standard! Tippecanoe and Tyler, too!
- ihav0frnds, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,8 ...
welcome to 1969.
- ihav0frnds, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,8 ...
- skunks, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Back to the gold standard! Tippecanoe and Tyler, too!
- relic180, on 08/02/2008, -9/+2It's not that they COULDN'T lower gas prices, maybe they could if they tried. Unfortunately we'll never know because both candidates received WAY more money from big oil than any voters so they have absolutely no interest in pissing off their major contributors.
- mcquitty, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1I think you mean shareholders.
- PHiZ187, on 08/02/2008, -2/+1Source of Obama receiving oil money please.
- mcquitty, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Here's one:
FactCheck shows that a couple of Mr. Obama's bundlers are executives at oil companies.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_oil ...
FTA:
Our problem comes with this statement:
Obama: I don’t take money from oil companies or Washington lobbyists, and I won’t let them block change anymore.
It's true that Obama doesn't take money directly from oil companies, but then, no presidential, House or Senate candidate does. They can't: Corporations have been prohibited from contributing directly to federal candidates since the Tillman Act became law in 1907.
- mcquitty, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Here's one:
- Jsmuli2, on 08/02/2008, -5/+30Who cares? Shouldn't we be embracing the high oil/gas prices as a motive to accelerate our production of cleaner and more efficient fuel sources?
We should tax the ***** out of gas and oil and come up with our own energy export so that we don't have to rely on other countries, who we bomb just so we can "keep our jobs" and all that Bullshiz.- statstudent, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2this seems to be the best way to tax carbon:
http://www.carbontax.org/
it's basically a user-fee to pollute the air, and the money is distributed uniformly to all. so if you don't emit much carbon, you get a larger rebate than the fees. if you emit more than your 'fair share', then you end up losing money.- vbullinger, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Yikes. Global carbon tax. One of the New World Order's schemes. No thanks, Stalin.
- statstudent, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2this seems to be the best way to tax carbon:
- poprocksandsoda, on 08/02/2008, -3/+17That means 50% of people apparently realize that gas prices are not "set" by the government, rather by the market. Good to see people realize just how this stuff works.
- kaelyiesta, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1Last time I checked the government had its hands in the oil industries' pockets pretty deep. Not just subsidies, tax laws, drilling regulation but lies and speeches made by the bush administration to help benefit speculators.
So, you're right; Our government doesn't set prices, officially.
- kaelyiesta, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1Last time I checked the government had its hands in the oil industries' pockets pretty deep. Not just subsidies, tax laws, drilling regulation but lies and speeches made by the bush administration to help benefit speculators.
- motivatedmama, on 08/02/2008, -6/+27Actually, isn't it Obama who's constantly repeating that "there's no quick fix or easy solution"? At least one of them has the integrity to speak the damn truth.
- skribble, on 08/02/2008, -5/+4Yea but who can trust Obama... he'll go back on his promise... just wait... That's why I'm voting indepe... Oh wait!
- 15charmaxwtf, on 08/02/2008, -4/+2He is the new messiah, he shall speak truth always!!!!
We are currently in the year 1 BO (Before Obama)
Hmmmz the diggs spellchecker does not have Obama in it. Blasphemy! - motivatedmama, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1It's a wonder you managed.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 08/02/2008, -4/+2He is the new messiah, he shall speak truth always!!!!
- skribble, on 08/02/2008, -5/+4Yea but who can trust Obama... he'll go back on his promise... just wait... That's why I'm voting indepe... Oh wait!
- rosco40, on 08/02/2008, -26/+29┏━━━━━━━┓
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┗━━┓ ┏━━┛ ┃ ┃- mahsah, on 08/02/2008, -5/+20That is a really easily solved maze. But what does it have to do with Bush?
- r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -14/+9It doesn't. Some Diggers think they're being hilarious and original when they post ASCII art. Really they're just failures who overcompensate for their stupidity by posting stupid overused pictures in a pathetic attempt for diggs.
If you've ever been to 4chan, you'll understand.
- r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -14/+9It doesn't. Some Diggers think they're being hilarious and original when they post ASCII art. Really they're just failures who overcompensate for their stupidity by posting stupid overused pictures in a pathetic attempt for diggs.
- enclaved, on 08/02/2008, -1/+5wow, pedobear must have left a stick up your ass, it'll be alright honey, tell me where the big bad mean ASCII art posters touched you on this picture.
(pretend there's a cool ascii picture here, like goatse or perhaps your mom)- rosco40, on 08/02/2008, -4/+0 /"""""/""""""".
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|......"""""""""""""""........"""""....""""".."" - brianara3, on 08/02/2008, -0/+7You.. have FAILED
- webmastercorey, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1lol brianara3
- rosco40, on 08/02/2008, -4/+0 /"""""/""""""".
- Pedestrian101, on 08/02/2008, -3/+3srsly, we had 6 years of prosperity until the democrats took power in congress, Iraq was a craphole so atleast it's finally getting better.
- tee349, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3YOUR HEAD IS FALLING OFF
- mahsah, on 08/02/2008, -5/+20That is a really easily solved maze. But what does it have to do with Bush?
- adougy, on 08/02/2008, -22/+24ron paul ftw
- spookyttws, on 08/02/2008, -3/+5Well, seeing how prices are largely based on speculation on wall street neither will be able to have a direct affect baring incentive programs for oil companies or oil price caps (which is illegal anyway). But if either of them (*throat clear* Obama) can stimulate the economy enough speculation will go down. Hell, if they could could find a way to flood the market (Actually using that American oil we drill) they can take the power away from the Saudi's (and well about 15 other countries getting rich while bleeding us dry.)
- mcquitty, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2You would think people would encourage drilling and refining in the United States. Complaining about the economy is fine and all, but working at an oil company with a decent paying job is far better than McDonald's, is it not?
If we are drilling here, that creates high paying jobs here, helping the economy.
But, I am guessing it it bad because it is oil. Everyone is supposed to hate oil. They focus on the damage that oil can do as if there's no redeeming value in it. Let's just focus on the bad, please.
We could do the same thing with water. Let me see:
Does water kill people? Check.
Does water harm the environment? Check.
Does water cause global warming (water vapor)? Check.
Does water cause damage (Katrina, flooding, etc)? Check.
Does water cause wars? It will. (It certainly causes states to argue)
Is water a valued resource? Check.
Based upon these arguments, especially global warming and harming the environment, we need to stop water consumption and stop it now!!!- statstudent, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1does water pollute?
no. but oil does.
is there any way to get around consuming water?
no. but there are clean alternatives to oil that could be implemented to phase out the use of fossil fuel oil.
does water kill thousands of people each year in the US?
no. but fossil fuel pollution does. and it causes asthma and other lung problems in hundreds of thousands of people. and don't even bring in swimming -- otherwise you have to bring in car accidents.
does water cost $4/gallon?
only if you are an idiot and buy bottled water (which is often just tap water in a bottle).
can you (mcquitty) tell the difference between oil and water?
apparently not. so go ahead, drink a glass of oil. apparently you think it's good for you and is perfectly comparable to water. - mcquitty, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Why don't drownings and floods count?
Water polutes. Global warming. Ever heard of water vapor? Look it up, contributing factor to global warming. Some say even more than CO2. Some, not all.
What about car accidents due to rain, snow? Do those count?
Water can cost significantly more than oil. Many people pay $1 a liter or more for bottled water.
I can tell the difference between water and oil. I am using it for arguments sake.
Do you understand comparisons?
Let me guess, you believe oil is the root of all evil. Without oil, the world would be a magical place where unicorns can roam free.
Let's face facts, there are both pros and cons to oil and water. But don't let your hatred of oil scare you.
- statstudent, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1does water pollute?
- Brassbud, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0I'd say Obama is more in the "high oil prices mean new power sources" camp, as echoed by a few diggers above.
Although ever-increasing global energy demand will cause limited-supply resources to forever climb in price, I'd say at this point it is speculators driving that price. I'd imagine you could get a measurable drop in prices even if you built FAKE drilling platforms in the Gulf, if only for a time.
- mcquitty, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2You would think people would encourage drilling and refining in the United States. Complaining about the economy is fine and all, but working at an oil company with a decent paying job is far better than McDonald's, is it not?
- ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/02/2008, -7/+23Guys we have to start an initiative to legalize hemp. If we legalize hemp in about 5 years we can reduce our dependency on oil by a huge percent. Hemp can produce just about everything oil can produce, It can also take the place of paper and particle board and plastic and rope and methanol and ethanol and paint and varnish and about 25,000 different things. It stops a good portion of deforestation the fuel that is made of it is environment friendly, it can be renewed at a minimum of 4 months one acre produces tones of material it grows almost anywhere it creates jobs I mean for real whats the deal?
The entire world has relied on Hemp for Centuries In fact most of our forefathers were Hemp farmers. I dont get it. Quit listening to all these politicians and what they say. Especially for Digg half the time you have both sides beating each other brains out about how the politicians suck ass and *****. Then when it comes to drilling its the stupid liberals that are going to cause us to pay for extremely high prices for gas in just a few short years. The you have the Republicans that say drill drill drill thinking that gas is going to go down to that magic number below 3 dollars which its not if you think your ever paying less than $3.50 a gallon ever again your dead wrong. It might go down a few cents, but the price of Oil dropped 25 dollars a barrel in a week and it only dropped the price of gas a few cents while the rest of the business that have to pay for transportation cost are still trying to play catch up for the lost revenues due to the staggering immediate inflation of oil. Which means were going to pay more for everything else. Then factor in the cost of inflation.
For real if everybody on here took one hour a day passing out fliers about the benefits of hemp and all of what it can do maybe it will get people thinking that "a plant can do all that? why is it illegal? what else are they lying about?" and all kinds of crazy questions that should be common sense. Best thing about it you get exercise which will increase your chances of getting laid and performing better. Your contributing to humanity. And you can put on there about how hemp paper can be recycled 7 times compared to regular paper at 4 times and it takes one acre of Hemp to produce the same amount paper as it takes 4 acres of trees to produce.
Am I making any sense? I think just about everybody in America thinks politicians lie just the ones that are hardcore Democrats think the Republicans are lying and vice versa. They all lie.- Rudegar, on 08/02/2008, -1/+8there are types of hemp which dont have thc and is legal to grow many places in the world
- ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Yep exactly just Hemp inst used to make plastics because plastic is made from the by products of oil. Manufacturing hemp plastic will create a competition within the plastics market and cause the price of it to remain steady if not drop. We arent using hemp to ts full potential.
- kemp34, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1It's illegal to grow in the U.S. for some idiotic reason.
- brianara3, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2Ok, your missing the fact that we already use plants for paper, particle board, plastics, rope, and meth/ethanol. Using hemp won't reduce the acreage needed to produce these items. As a matter of fact... hemp may be a less efficient way of making some of them (ie. ethanol or paper). Also, it doesn't "grow anywhere", it needs the same soil conditions and water as most other plants.
Not to mention the fact if it was grown everywhere people would be too busy getting high that they would not be able to run the machines needed to produce anything.- ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/02/2008, -1/+3Research before you speak. You can go ahead and sit around and do nothing, but me on the other hand Im going to go out and try to make a difference. To make it better for ignorant asses like you. But I dont mind making it better for people like you after all I cant blame you directly but i can blame this piss poor education system in america. And I'm not going to rely on the politicians to solve problems. 80% are paid by corporate interest that knowing most of their information is false to keep major corporations making as much money as they possibly can.
- wg3323, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1thank you....this guy has no clue what the hell he's saying.
- statstudent, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3"Not to mention the fact if it was grown everywhere people would be too busy getting high that they would not be able to run the machines needed to produce anything."
It doesn't have THC. You can't get high off of it. Do you actually know anything on the topic or are you just speaking out of your ass?
- ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/02/2008, -1/+3Research before you speak. You can go ahead and sit around and do nothing, but me on the other hand Im going to go out and try to make a difference. To make it better for ignorant asses like you. But I dont mind making it better for people like you after all I cant blame you directly but i can blame this piss poor education system in america. And I'm not going to rely on the politicians to solve problems. 80% are paid by corporate interest that knowing most of their information is false to keep major corporations making as much money as they possibly can.
- TheCamino, on 08/02/2008, -3/+0 So, there are literally hundreds of millions of cars on the road today, thousands of BTUs being used by people, every day, running air conditioners at full blast all day and all night, and the answer to solve all of our problems is hemp?
Talk about your stoner's utopia!
You could just hide the real pot plants in plain sight, seed the ditches right in front of your house, and everyone would be like, "Nah, that's just hemp."
What you smokin? Hemp.
Me? I'm a rope manufacturer. That ain't weed, man!
"Freeze, DEA! DEA! Get on the ground. Aw *****. It's just hemp. No, Nelson, that's just a fern."
I swear that I LOL'd when I read this post, and thought to myself, man, "we wouldn't have all of this warfare, greed, power struggles, and ethnic strife if we'd just plant some hemp!"
It's like I watched a Cheech and Chong movie with some guys, and one of them just had a religious experience.
Let me be the first to say that I doubt strongly that hemp is going to solve the energy crisis.
- ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2So whats your bright idea? Look around the room look at your shoes plastic bottles You TV case your computer case and keyboard.. I can go on and on about what is made from oil. Like i said in my first post its not going to solve all our problems but it can reduce our dependency on oil by a huge percent. I never said that it would stop the problems of the world. Its obvious that you didnt comprehend my post even took the time to research it for yourself. Oh yea Hemp is not Marijuana educate yourself.
- wg3323, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1So you're just gonna sit there and laugh at it and doubt it.....without actually looking into anything. GOOD WORK JACKASS.
- vbullinger, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2I've never done any illegal narcotic in my life.
I agree with ThinkOutTheBox wholeheartedly.
Doesn't even look like he even cared to say anything pro-drugs at all. He's just saying legalize hemp. Without THC... for productive purposes...
What's wrong with you?
- oo7b0nds, on 08/02/2008, -4/+3you forgot the main benefit; weed.
- wg3323, on 08/02/2008, -1/+0yeah....
- rlegions, on 08/02/2008, -6/+1lol people on digg are really dumbass.
I guess your hemp will be all harvest by hand and won't use any fertilizer? This is stupidest ***** I ever heard.- ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/02/2008, -0/+5Again research it. It doesnt need fertilizers it doesnt need pesticides. The only dumb asses are the people that are quick to jump to conclusions with out knowing the facts such as your self. I mean cant you ***** read I didnt say it will replace oil but it will reduce our dependency on oil. Search and see how many things that we use everyday are made from oil.
- kemp34, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Hemp is WAY easier to grow without pesticides and nearly as much water as other crops. Hemp is very really a "super crop" and it has great benefits in numerous ways. Hemp being illegal to grow is just plan idiotic.
- ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/02/2008, -0/+5Again research it. It doesnt need fertilizers it doesnt need pesticides. The only dumb asses are the people that are quick to jump to conclusions with out knowing the facts such as your self. I mean cant you ***** read I didnt say it will replace oil but it will reduce our dependency on oil. Search and see how many things that we use everyday are made from oil.
- inboxnews, on 08/02/2008, -0/+4So the answer to our energy problems is to legalize hemp. Who knew?
- cien750hp, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2The US is the only industrialized nation to ban the farming of hemp. You can go to whole foods or places like that and buy hemp products though because they import it from canada. And you would need a bong the size of a telephone pole to get high off of hemp.
- twertyto, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1You forget we have an looming water crisis in this country. Mass producing hemp to replace all those things that you mentioned would require too much water to make a reality.
- kemp34, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Far better than ethanol from CORN. Hemp takes far less water to grow than most other crops. It is a WEED.
- ThinkOutTheBox, on 08/02/2008, -1/+0Water Crisis??? Last time i checked the earth is 2/3rds water It might be salt water but thats because people dont want to spend enormus amounts of money to find an economic way to turn salt water into fresh water. And there are lots of technologies being developed that the only by product is water vapor or water.. Mean while we are spending through taxes Billions of Dollars on Space exploration and nuclear energy, War, all kinds of things. Get where I'm going??
- twertyto, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1@ThinkOutTheBox
The water crisis is real and so your ignorance. Don't talk about things you know anything about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_crisis
http://drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html
- Rudegar, on 08/02/2008, -1/+8there are types of hemp which dont have thc and is legal to grow many places in the world
- claybodie, on 08/02/2008, -2/+5Welcome to the future: living in an oil constrained world.
- CYR1X, on 08/02/2008, -13/+2Who the ***** cares?
- chuckypita, on 08/02/2008, -7/+7Clay - if we leave government to fix our problems, we're assured of one thing .............
MORE PROBLEMS!- mcquitty, on 08/02/2008, -1/+3The people digging you down must be the same ones who defend the DHS, like welfare queens and corporate welfare, think Katrina was a shining example of government assistance, and believe that Bush has made the world a wonderful place.
- mcquitty, on 08/02/2008, -1/+3The people digging you down must be the same ones who defend the DHS, like welfare queens and corporate welfare, think Katrina was a shining example of government assistance, and believe that Bush has made the world a wonderful place.
- fwdkfwdkfwdk, on 08/02/2008, -1/+3What about solar-power and trains? I like that better...
- copypastry, on 08/02/2008, -1/+5Jeez guys it's not like they can "wave some magic wand" and make gas prices go down!
*waits to see if anyone gets the Bush reference* - 17999, on 08/02/2008, -7/+2I don't know, Obama could always flip flop on drilling...
TA-DA!- twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1He just did.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/sta ...
- twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1He just did.
- cruik, on 08/02/2008, -2/+0Both are right, neither group is a bunch of dumbasses. A president is a liason to other countries. Countries with nationalized oil. It's possible that a president can reduce oil prices through negotiation. Buried for ambiguity on the term "anytime soon." To me that means 5 years. To some it means by by the end of summer. Bad study. Doing any surveys over the internet is troublesome. By doing it online you're already selecting the 60% of the population that are up with current technology and probably news stories.
- nmessick, on 08/03/2008, -0/+0that has nothing to do with the cost of oil. Its all market driven. If one country is too expensive, everyone goes somewhere else till that country lowers its price... supply and demand, nothing else. The president has nothing to do with it.
- shithitinthefan, on 08/02/2008, -3/+1Too bad hot air only works with balloons.
- oneredeye, on 08/02/2008, -1/+14Of course if gas prices fall, whoever is president will take credit.
- VinnieDaMac, on 08/02/2008, -6/+3I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Obama can lower gas prices, but to expect gas prices to drop back down below 3 dollars anytime soon would be foolish.
- highps3, on 08/02/2008, -2/+1Whats ironic is we have had cars run on just about everything from water to pot, yet nothing has changed. People act like alternative fuel sources are just now being discovered, yet the truth is they have been around a long, long time.
- TheMachine1, on 08/02/2008, -1/+4No its easy to lower prices with a government mandate it just tends to make the supply disappear and long gas lines.
- computershack, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2Gas prices have fallen over 5% in the UK in this week alone prompted by a supermarket price war and a drop in the price of crude due to the drop in demand. In addition to that, Tesco, the biggest supermarket in the UK, have 5p/litre off vouchers when you spend £50 or more so it's possible to have roughly 8% off in total with those vouchers. Here, at least, prices are heading one way - down.
- jdepp, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1for the time being
- PerfectV, on 08/02/2008, -1/+10No they don't have a magic rabbit up their sleeve to lower gas prices...but they can both make them go way up. If either one of these candidates starts a war with Iran then the average U.S. citizen can forget about driving a car. Gas will be for the wealthy.
- ren1999, on 08/02/2008, -3/+3You mean Dubai determines oil prices? Isn't that where U.S. Energy Halliburton moved and Dick Cheney will move? This whole article is just selling the idea of drilling in new territory. Energy companies aren't even drilling in areas already leased. They are just trying to expand their power. This article is Dugg down for being Neo-Conservative trash.
- twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2That arguement is beyond retarded. How do you all keep using the same dumb arguments. Repeating them a million times doesn't make them any more valid.
The companies must lease the land before they're allowed to survey it. After they survey it they may find that there is a lot of profitable oil or there isn't. They don't want to risk drilling for oil that's only profitable at $90 a barrel when prices could potentially come down after drilling has started and when there is 100 years worth of oil shale available at $40-60 dollars a barrel (currently - pbly cheaper as extraction technology improves) in the mid-west.
Plus, think about the enviroment. Do you really want a million holes drilled in all these puny oil finds or just a few drilled where the big oil is? - 15charmaxwtf, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1You might want to read up on double-entry bookkeeping before you make an idiot on the internet of yourself again. Though, just knowing that business adventures have to be profitable would suffice.
- twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2That arguement is beyond retarded. How do you all keep using the same dumb arguments. Repeating them a million times doesn't make them any more valid.
- oldgal, on 08/02/2008, -2/+3All Congress has to do is act like they are ready to nationalize the oil and gas industry and the price will drop like a rock.
- Evilblobs, on 08/02/2008, -8/+2Preposterous, Obama could fix gas prices as nothing more than a footnote in his journey to end world hunger and strife as he travels from country to country healing the sick and blind, followed diligently by his media reporters.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3You are an astute observer. You will receive many rewards in heaven.
- solarstories, on 08/02/2008, -5/+2I don't think it is about "can" lower gas prices. I think it is about "want to" lower gas prices.
- shithitinthefan, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2Peak oil is not a political issue, it's a survival issue...how long before this is addressed by ROME.
- twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -1/+0Considering we have over a hundred years of oil in oil shale in the Mid-West alone, probably a lot longer.
- galleryfront, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1The problem with oil shale is that no company has found a way to produce oil from shale and make a profit.
When billions are now being invested to try to make the extraction of oil from sand and shale inexpensive, then I think the evidence of peak oil is in. The era of cheap, CO2 producing energy is slowly coming to a close.... I nominate twomeyw23334 as the newest member of the ANWR and Oceanic Drilling Retarditorium. I suggest research into how much oil is under ANWR there stinky... compare those numbers to what we use now. Do the same for liberal estimates of oil off the coast. Now, look at quarterly oil import numbers.
I have some sad news --> we're screwed, and "More Drilling" is only passing the ***** storm onto our grandchildren. The technology to dig us out is here now and NOW is the only time (in the next decade) that energy is going to be as cheap to move these technologies around the world... quick, while oil is still under $200 / bbl. - twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0Lies!!!
Oil shale extraction is profitable at $40-60 barrel. Shell has developed a method of extraction that is not only cheap but also environmentally friendly. They bury super heating elements in the earth which essentially bubble the oil to the surface to be pipped away. No ripping up of the earth or 'sands processing' required.
Again, $40-60 dollars is cheap, and we have enough for 100% supply for over 100 years, and that's just with proven supplies.
We also have coal in abundance and it's cheap (coal also cases CO2 pollution). CTL is profitable at a whopping $40 dollars a barrel. The only reason oil is expensive is because you and like minded politicians want it to be.
Keep spitting your propaganda.
- galleryfront, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1The problem with oil shale is that no company has found a way to produce oil from shale and make a profit.
- shithitinthefan, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2Don't forget the infinite supply we have in corn and other resources.
When it costs more to extract a resource than sell it, there's a problem.
Peak oil from profitable fields happened 12 months ago.
- twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -1/+0Considering we have over a hundred years of oil in oil shale in the Mid-West alone, probably a lot longer.
- radiofrequency, on 08/02/2008, -4/+2It's a difficult problem to solve. However, democrat's plan to impede drilling for oil is definitely a stupid choice.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 08/02/2008, -0/+3Such ideas are distractions. We have to strengthen the dollar. That means less government overspending. The politicians would rather die than live within our means.
- csonger, on 08/02/2008, -2/+1Government overspending is a problem; but not the solution to energy.
The US doing more drilling is like a meth addict starting to cook more meth because their normal supplier can't get them as much as they need.
No matter how much oil we produce, the middle east will still be a big source. Money sent to the middle east will still end up in the hands of terrorists. With economic and political layout of the world right now, energy policy is inextricably tied to national security.
If we'd been smart; all that money we poured into Iraq would have been poured into weaning ourselves off oil -- all oil -- because oil is fungible and just producing more domestically does not help. Our best course is to get our economy to a point where if the middle east were to disappear, our economy would not even notice. Even if they did not hate us; they hate each other far too much for us to hang our economy on it.
We should feel grateful that it went from $2->$4 rather than $2->$10 like it would have had there been a serious disruption in several of the unstable oil producing nations.- twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0We have enough oil shale in the Mid-West alone to provide us with 100% of our oil needs for 100 years. Your arguments are borderline retarded.
If we'd been smart, all the money we poured into Iraq would not have been poured into anything, it would have been left in Chines pockets.
You can make pretend all day long that we are facing an oil shortage or that we don't have enough natural resources but you're full of *****. If you need me to post actual numbers I have no problem doing it, but you're acting like a meth addict who can't discern fiction from reality.
Seriously, that analogy is laughable. Did Al Gore say it or something? I've seen it used enough times to know that it must have come from one of the overlord's mouth to be repeated by the devoted puppets.
- twomeyw23334, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0We have enough oil shale in the Mid-West alone to provide us with 100% of our oil needs for 100 years. Your arguments are borderline retarded.
- palewook, on 08/02/2008, -2/+2Unless one of the candidates can piss oil, they won't be lowering the price of crude.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Even then we are a pretty small country in numbers. The big oil demand will increasingly come from China and India. So what we do or don't do won't affect world oil prices much like in the good old days.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1So our best bet is to keep our dollar strong and the price to us as low as possible.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 08/02/2008, -0/+1Even then we are a pretty small country in numbers. The big oil demand will increasingly come from China and India. So what we do or don't do won't affect world oil prices much like in the good old days.
- kashi, on 08/02/2008, -2/+7Really, who gives a ***** about gas prices. How about you elect somebody who will stop the pointless blood spilling of not only your citizens but other innocent people around the world. Gas prices.... give me a break!!! Ditch the F-150 and get 1.6 VW Golf instead, for city driving.
- Rudegar, on 08/02/2008, -2/+1but can they lower the price of diesel ?? :P ;)
- amazinggod, on 08/02/2008, -6/+0
- Pusod, on 08/02/2008, -0/+2ENJOY wasting your time creating a new account and starting all over again! your efforts are fruitless buddy! digg account cancellation in... 5...4...3...2..1. GOODNIGHT BITCH!
- crackberri, on 08/02/2008, -3/+1The Messiah has the answer, just put air in your tires…….
Please pass the Crack pipe……… - FrankHope, on 08/02/2008, -2/+4Republicans think that the electorate is stupid enough to believe that a vote for McCain is a vote for lower gas prices, because he supports more offshore drilling. More oil unfortunately doesn't mean lower prices. It just means higher profits for Exxon.
- whytheam, on 08/02/2008, -3/+2Congress can.
- Slybri, on 08/02/2008, -3/+5Close the "Enron loophole" law that allows speculation on oil prices. Gas prices will decrease dramaticly. Obama already promised to do that. McCain's advisors are the people who helped put the loophole into law in the first place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaDelhvtQ98
Also, Obama will invent a working Mr. Fusion for our Deloreans.- 15charmaxwtf, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1Hah, I could actually remember the name of that logical fallacy "post hoc ergo propter hoc" I usually need google to help me remember it.
The number of logical fallacies and the amount of economic ignorance in this clip is momentous. Literally every 10 seconds needs a whole essay to pick it apart.
And a quick note on the power cuts thing it seems to tie in IIRC with government environmental regulation that stops or makes more difficult to produce more electricity by building new power stations. If there is the same supply of electricity and an increased demand then prices will obviously go up. (Though, they import it from neighboring states.)
Enron and all this ***** is a government creation I don't find the argument calling for more regulation is a particularly convincing argument. Deregulating some little bit and then blaming the market (a real market barely exists) is fallacious.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1Hah, I could actually remember the name of that logical fallacy "post hoc ergo propter hoc" I usually need google to help me remember it.
- bluesman3535, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2It's not Exxon's fault oil is so expensive, OPEC, Chavez or any other bogey man the media can use to deflect 8 years of gross mismanagement resulting in the plunging dollar value. It's simple, a strong dollar buys more oil!
- UK4Life58, on 08/02/2008, -1/+1Obama doesn't claim that he can lower the price of gas. He plans to ween America off of oil by giving credits to American citizens that come from taxing the windfall profits of exxon mobil and chevron. This will help with the purchase of oil for average citizens while we invest heavily in electric, hydrogen and other technologies that will end our dependence on oil. I don't think anyone can lower the price of oil here in America, but that is a reason to like Obama, he realizes that and he will attempt the only true solution to the problem, eliminate the need for oil.
- jocampbe, on 08/02/2008, -1/+2Said the other 50% of Americans, "Can't talk... `batin'!"
- albinorhino101, on 08/02/2008, -0/+0OUCH MY BALLS!
- plhofmei, on 08/02/2008, -2/+1It's good to know that those 50% are reasonably intelligent. Unless we become China, the president can't control the price of gas. That's just ludicrous. Good ole supply and demand (along with a healthy dose of terror tax (Nigerian Rebels, Third-rate third-world dictators and Tehran, oh my!)) make up the price of oil and ergo the price of gas.
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